That explains so much. I was getting beyond 60 FPS in games, and i knew my monitor was capped at 60. But all the time, even with vsync, the video seemed stuttery, and felt like the framrate was lower than 60. Then i started using ansel to record the gameplay and found it to be incredibly smooth.
identity7 lol, the response time is going to be 1ms in the future with 4d. Yea, the specs he said are more than likely completely impossible. And definitely nothing better.
I remember one time I said to a friend I want 1 Gb ram. At the time that was an insane number. Almost unreal to think it would come. I think 4-8 MB was standard then in the mid 90's. Now every one has 8-32gb ram, even the GPU has 8-16GB One day that 72 inch monitor exists.
What you guys need to do is make G Sync something you can buy on its own and have the monitors be G Sync compatible. Then that way the company's making G Sync ready monitors don't have to worry about selling a certain type of monitor. One monitor that can be sold somewhat cheap, but have the capability of being badass. Just a thought.
In the past when I knew little about computer components, the impressive words and what it does, things really looked like a futuristic Sci-Fi space technology to me. V-Sync, Ambient Occlusion, 2K, Hyper-thread, etc. But now G-spot... I mean G-Sync and the explanation what it does, you will realize those impressive words was the solutions of a geek problem that only geeks will appreciate, and normal ppl will say whatever, I thought this was fixed decades ago when Steven Spielberg made Jurassic Park!
Honestly, monitor manufacturers should have implemented this themselves years and years ago. They already knew in the beginning that hardware could not keep a steady 60fps. Its the only logical solution and really, frame rates should be synced at all frame rates whether you are running 30fps, 45fps, 60fps, 120fps or 200+fps, and not just below 60fps. Synced frame rates should have always been the standard.
Gsync has blown me away. Playing the Witcher 3 in 40fps feel as smooth as playing it in 70-80fps so I don't have to upgrade my graphics card xD which has saved me a lot of money
Men snälla Anders, 2020 är snart över, Witcher 3 är ett bra optimerat spel och knappast svårt att spela med över 80 fps. Skaffa ett jobb eller förbättra din budget!
Still waiting. Freesync is cheaper and seems to work almost identical, but the top end gpu is equivalent to the gtx 1070 (which is a great card, yeah, but still you have that limit. While nvidia offers 1080ti and the new rtx cards ). I'm actually considering the idea of buying the g-sync before a better nvidia card (now with a 960). Seems ridiculous to buy that instead of a new gpu, but my current monitor have some lighting issues.
Looks like they may have *massively* increased the effect of the tearing/artifacting to make the difference easier to see, but that also runs the risk (or gain, in Nvidia's books) of making the consumer think the difference is going to be *this* dramatic. It's cool stuff, people. Just remember that this is an example of the *type* of improvement, not an accurate measurement of the *amount* of improvement. Most games (even on poorly built or outdated rigs/consoles) aren't gonna be as bad as the left side video shown here. Ever.
It makes so much more sense now that I see that difference rather than listening to an explanation. If you try to explain it to me I’ll have no idea what your talking about. Show me this and I understand perfectly
never had I ever have that massive stutter because of v-sync... I can see the advantage but that sort of marketing is a bit annoying... same goes for "Get super crisp images in 4k!!!" _crisp image_ "compared to regular images" _image take with a potato..._
i have, it's honestly pretty accurate this time. that kinda screen tearing and stuttering is common for a lot of people, lucky that you haven't had that kinda stuff. my new Gsync monitor really made a huge difference for me.
I have too, but i prefer it versus having screen tearing. I remember when i got eyes up for vsync on, from Battlefield 2. Was a total gamechanger on how the image looked, been on since ;)
thats not marketing I own a gsync and it works perfectly fine and it's soooo smooth, tried my older 144hz screen with vsync and it's stuttering like crazy
I hate when people pretend something isn't awesome just because they can't afford it. :/ I couldn't afford gsync just a few short years ago but I damn sure wanted it...
Nice man, my monitor doesn't support G-Sync and I'm having stutter.. what do I do now? I certainly don't want to buy a new monitor since mine is good apart from this.
good explenation. the only thing i disagree with is going stalkers against battlecruisers. but heck, back in the day battlecruisers couldn't yet shoot while moving :3
G-Sync is the best thing since SSD, i can NEVER go back to a normal display again. Freesync is okay, but it has BIG problems below 45fps, for most people, this will probably not be a problem.
people who say they dont need Gsync ... poor you, you must seen tearing/stutter all your life and gotten used to it . but if you were to play with Gsync for a week - you cant go back anymore. you just cant - your brain will just start to think "how did this stuter/tearing did not bother me before?"
I get the feeling the big-tech on the gsync module is ULMB and the reason it's not shown, can't be recorded without the camera picking up on the flicker
I've been using nvidia cards for years and have gotten used to 144hz monitors. I don't really experience any screen tearing or stuttering. In fact, the entire reason for why I upgraded to 144hz was to eliminate those problems. So, the whole G-Sync thing completely eludes me. I don't use V-Sync because I frankly don't need it, plus it impacts performance. I don't understand what benefits G-Sync actually brings. Because, in my mind, any sort of synchronization mechanics means that some sort of limitation is being imposed on something (namely the GPU in this case). So, doesn't that imply you're lowering the effectiveness of your GPU by enabling this? Is there any benefit of enabling this when you don't experience any tearing in the first place?
To be honest, that is exactly what I have been thinking. I am looking to buy a gaming monitor because I am upgrading my rig as a whole but in my country there is no G-SYNC monitor that meets my requirements, only freesync alternatives. But I have played on the same monitors with no issues, even if they had NVIDIA GPUs. So I think in this day and age G-SYNC isn't worth it :/
Yes there is a benefit, because VSync + G-Sync (or VSync + FreeSync) reduces jitter and stuttering, as far as I know. Read BlurBuster's article called "G-Sync 101" to learn more and have your questions answered.
I can see some stutter in the g-sync video part, not like the other side, but some stutters I see. That means that there's no Stutter free. My monitor with triple buffer v-sync on, has less stuttering than this video...
***** I barely got a 960, short on cash :D Monitor will come in autumn most probably, currently have a 5-year old 1080p Samsung. Looking to change it for another 1080p LED monitor, but i want a good one if i'm gonna mash all that money on it.
How can we lock down the FPS to the monitor's refresh rate? i mean, an easy way, not all that rtss and nvidia inspector things. frame limiting should be integrated into the control panel, otherwise we can't really benefit from g-sync if FPS is always above refresh rate... Nvidia please hear us out, or if i'm missing something, someone please tell me or help
Luckily the Acer set the MSRP of the XB271HU below market price at my place, which makes it cheaper than comparable Freesync monitor. It made me get the GTX1070 even though I'm AMD's fan :X
Everybody is getting it, but not me because it's preserved for 1070 buyers - keep your dreams for later, when you buy something again. This is an issue not able to run it at 60 fps. Should EU discuss removing V-syncs off completely - it's playable or it's not and this problem persists as some roads.
0:50 huh ?? i've never experienced these so called stuttered frames display while using an AMD card ... is this an Nvidia only thing ? i'm legit confused about this because every twitch stream i know who uses an Nvidia GPU as soon as they launch a game the very first thing they do is go in the setting and turns off vsync , and in their stream we can clearly see screen tearing and im like why would you do that ? for an AMD gpu with Freesync they recommand to have Vsync ON for freesync to function properly, which makes me even more confused, isn't freesync just vsync at this point ? isn't gsync just vsync ? or whats going here
Been using a gtx 650, 1060 and now a 2080ti on the same full HD 60fps Monitor for the last 6 years always with vsync on and never had anything like that.
Nothing is wrong with our monitors... nothing is wrong with our GPU's... the problem is the communication between them, no matter how advanced monitors get, or GPU's they are useless unless we let the communicate. Great video Nvidia.
+zman2748 no. It happens every time when the buffer switch from back to front buffer doesn't happen exactly the time when image has finished drawing. (When nothing is drawn on screen.) Even with perfect 60fps on 60hz monitor. (In which case you can static tear line, when fps/hz do not match you get moving tearline.)
Do I need G-Sync if my frames per second isn't reaching my refresh rate? I don't have a DisplayPort 1.4 cable so I can't have HDR + G-sync. I have to choose one or the other by choosing either HDMI or DisplayPort(not 1.4 which supports both).
I may be wrong but from what I've been seeing, gsync only adjust your monitor's refresh rate up until it's native refresh rate. Anything passed that and you are subject to screen tearing. You also don't need Gsync. Only if screen tearing really bothers you.
So why does gsync need vsync ON to work (without tearing)? Is gsync a superset of vsync? Also why cant I just use a frame rate limit to avoid all of these issues?
hello i bought a new monitor aoc 24g2u has freesync feature but my laptop has nvdia graphics card (1650) and only hdmi port is on the monitor i bought, the monitor has hdmi and vga ports. Can I activate gsync if I plug it into the hdmi part on the laptop ?????
VSync on. G-Sync and FreeSync are meant to be used with VSync on and also with your framerate limited to some number lower than your monitor's refresh rate. I don't know much about VSync "fast" setting.
I have a monitor that claims to use g-sync its fine. The only problem is i barely notice a difference between that and a regular so its not worth it now.
Marc Andrew Geolingo It beastly. I have sli 980's and i will switch to amd's top of the line once they release a new gpu to combat the titan hopefully it cheaper
AstroMagic He is saying to push your PC harder when gaming. Crank every setting to ultra "you probably do" and use DSR to set the resolution to 4K "if you do not have a 4k monitor, use DSR". Then Gsync will kick on when the framerate dips below 60. You say you don't notice a difference with it on, its because your sli 980's are keeping your fps at 60 or higher. It would be a waste to buy those AMD cards when you aren't even pushing the 980's. It would have made a lot more sense to have just one 980 with a Gsync monitor. With a Gsync monitor it really is pointless it to crank out hundreds of frames per second, or anything past 60. Then there is this, you cannot use Gsnyc with AMD video cards.. Sure you can plug the monitor in but it will just be another regular monitor and Gsync will not be able to be turned on. You would be downgrading if you switched to AMD. Their cards have less technology's put into them, they're cheaper for a reason "budget cards". So what if they can put out 60fps, what else can they do, NOTHING.. Sounds like you don't know much about your own system and how the technology's even work. I am starting to wonder if you even no how to turn Gsync on, it requires more than just plugging in the monitor ;)
G-Sync turns on whenever I fullscreen video, like this one, should I disable G-Sync when not playing a game, or is leaving it on and watching desktop video fine? The ROG PG279Q light turns red whenever I fullscreen.
i think the reason is because NVidia's graphics cards are called 'GeForce', so this way their is some alliteration between the card names and G-Sync to make it easier to understand.
***** The problem is when you have a fixed refresh rate of the monitor and the GPUs non fixed output will lead to a harmonic dissidence between the two component. This is a fancy way of saying the frames from the GPU does not line up with fractions of the framerate of the screen. The GPU will then miss refresh intervals and screen tearing will occur. If you can set the max refresh rate of the game to the native refresh rate of the screen and always reach that goal you are good to go. But with a 120Hz screen half that is 60 fps so you will not get any positives out of having a 120Hz screen if you cant match the fps always. Thats unless you either do not notice or screen tearing does not bother you as much, which is totally a personal thing. If you have said max fps and cant match that max fps then screen tearing will occur, again you might not be susceptible to noticing that. The alternative VSync is more than just Max fps, but if programmed correctly it wont add any latency (some games are not programmed correctly). VSync stutters occur when you cant match the native refresh rate it halfens that (the best fraction after native is half). When it changes to half refresh rate it will wait for up to half a second, and that is noticeable as a stutter. Soon enough Adapticsync (FreeSync) and GSync will be cheap enough to be omnipresent, and this wont be an issue because it does not just alleviate the down sides of VSync/not synced, it also looks better.
Please help, I have gtx960 and my problem is a screen stutter, I tried everything, on, off, adaptive but still I have that problem almost on every game. Playing on TV 60hz, never had that on my previous gpu gtx 560.
TL:DR= This technology is far from ready and Nvidia has been getting VERY lazy with quality control. This technology is horrible. I've owned a ROG swift and the Acer Gsync 4k monitor and was horribly disappointed with both units. It hardly works for single card setups so forget about high end 2-4 way SLI setups.Typical ploy to get more money for mediocre products. The low end 2560x1440@120Hz overclocking Korean monitors (Xstar/Qnix) are very comparable to these and are only 25% of the price. Also, Nvidia can't even get their "flag ship" GTX980s and 970s to produce stable frames at over 80% usage yet and the cards have been out since September. Check out this 100 page thread on how everyone is having trouble with the new 9XX series. All requests for explanations have been ignored buy Nvidia. forums.geforce.com/default/topic/781982/geforce-drivers/nvidia-geforce-gtx-900-series-feedback-gathering-low-gpu-load-and-other-issues-/
Toxic Biohazard that's not a limitation with freesync - freesync spec is able to go from 9hz to 144hz. the limitation window you talk about is due to panel limitations. look at the reviews online and you'll see why.
The Unpredictable Jack freesync was supposed to do that. but monitor manufacturers decided not to build according to VESA spec made about 5 years ago, so there are very few freesync monitors and lousy refresh rate ranges to boot. there is obviously more to it, but that's the quick version. so nvidia went ahead and charged lots of money to do the same thing amd wanted to do by adding their hardware to the mix. can't argue with what they do, everyone buys their stuff.
Just bought asus rogt swift pg248q and i have flickering bug, the problem is i tested on other PC with 9series gpu it looks ok but with my current gtx 1070 the monitor is flickering. The problem is the drivers or i dont know what isnt completed because as i googled many users have this issue with 10series gtx... Now i RMA my monitor and i beleave im just gonna have to buy other monitor without g sync :( The point is g sync is like in early access with bugs... GL with that :) full google with unlimited posts of flickering issue with g sync monitors.
The real solution here is to spend the extra premium that it would cost for a G-Sync monitor on a better graphics card in the first place. A high end graphics card will be able to push very high framerates which will result in screen tearing so minimal that it's indistinguishable to the human eye. Buying a G-Sync monitor is basically spending money to compensate the fact that your graphics card can't keep up.
Christopher Serr Lmao. Ok m8. I think what you and OxygenLessGaming are trying to say is that above 60 FPS results in screen tearing which is true (and will continue to be true until about 150 FPS), but once your FPS gets to a very high level such as 300, the screen tearing is so minimal that you can barely see it even if you're trying. This happens because the frame timing is reduced to 3.33 ms (3.33ms to render each frame). Since the frames are so close to eachother, the two frames that are merged together in the 'tear' will be only 3.33ms apart in time, so the difference between the two images will be nearly the same. Sorry if my explanation was poor but do some of your own research and you'll find that once you reach such framerates, screen tearing becomes irrelevant. Hell, you can experiment for yourself too if you have a PC that's fast enough to run games that fast.
My laptop came with a 60hz display panel, I switched it out for a 120hz display. If I use G-SYNC will the gpu know that my display is 120hz or will it think that it is still 60 since that is what came from the factory?
You can change the Hz in the control panel for all monitors. You can set a 120Hz at 80Hz if you wanted to. You can overclock your monitor too from 120Hz to 150Hz depending on how well made it is.
say you have a 144hz monitor. can't you just select 144hz refresh rate in the nvidia control-panel for the game..thus rendering g-sync obsolete? am I missing something?
If you need a simple explanation of G Sync. It turns your monitor into a slave to your GPU and your GPU the master. The way it should've always been
Lmao
Lol, exactly. 😂😂
@@acwmq it gets good fps while getting no screen tearing
@@extremelightning6115 I have monitors with this, but it doesn’t seem useful for ps5 only pc right?
@@acwmq G-Sync is good, yes, use it if you have it.
This is one of the best produced videos Nvidia has done thus far.
Nathan White Yeah i can't believe they managed to show and explain it so well, whoever made this video deserves a raise!
It’s been a while yall
@@itsyaboykev438 ok
NVIDIA G-SYNC is the biggest improvement you can make to any video game on the PC past and future it makes me want to play games now it is awesome
That explains so much. I was getting beyond 60 FPS in games, and i knew my monitor was capped at 60. But all the time, even with vsync, the video seemed stuttery, and felt like the framrate was lower than 60. Then i started using ansel to record the gameplay and found it to be incredibly smooth.
Engineer Gaming
i want a 72 inch, 1000hz, 0ms, 3d, ultra mega giga sync monitor.
For under 300$ plz
identity7 lol, the response time is going to be 1ms in the future with 4d. Yea, the specs he said are more than likely completely impossible. And definitely nothing better.
I remember one time I said to a friend I want 1 Gb ram. At the time that was an insane number. Almost unreal to think it would come. I think 4-8 MB was standard then in the mid 90's. Now every one has 8-32gb ram, even the GPU has 8-16GB
One day that 72 inch monitor exists.
@@UA-cam_Globetrotter comment aged very well, now we have BFGD's :D
buddy this year they came out with .5 ms so thats one step closer
I can`t see the super smooth feature in this video, because my monitor making this video tear :P
I dont think it works like that😂
@@SQEWRLD r/wooosh
@@Saigonas using subreddits outside of reddit is so cringe
@@MrHunty this comment is 3 months old
Saigonas so it’s not cringe anymore because it’s 3 months old?
finally i can play with my homies like a real G
UltraRambo 60frames here we come 😎
Laser Spud 60fps? Well.. we all have different pc’s so some play at more FPS
What you guys need to do is make G Sync something you can buy on its own and have the monitors be G Sync compatible. Then that way the company's making G Sync ready monitors don't have to worry about selling a certain type of monitor. One monitor that can be sold somewhat cheap, but have the capability of being badass. Just a thought.
In the past when I knew little about computer components, the impressive words and what it does, things really looked like a futuristic Sci-Fi space technology to me. V-Sync, Ambient Occlusion, 2K, Hyper-thread, etc. But now G-spot... I mean G-Sync and the explanation what it does, you will realize those impressive words was the solutions of a geek problem that only geeks will appreciate, and normal ppl will say whatever, I thought this was fixed decades ago when Steven Spielberg made Jurassic Park!
Honestly, monitor manufacturers should have implemented this themselves years and years ago. They already knew in the beginning that hardware could not keep a steady 60fps. Its the only logical solution and really, frame rates should be synced at all frame rates whether you are running 30fps, 45fps, 60fps, 120fps or 200+fps, and not just below 60fps. Synced frame rates should have always been the standard.
Ofc they couldnt care less about what you want tho
@@Blackstar-ti4py they cared enough to the point where most monitors and tvs have variable refresh rate now.
@@RiasatSalminSami they care enough when it benefits them not you 😉
@@Blackstar-ti4py yes money is love, money is life 😍
@@RiasatSalminSami well thats what i said they dont give a f about you 🤣
Gsync has blown me away. Playing the Witcher 3 in 40fps feel as smooth as playing it in 70-80fps so I don't have to upgrade my graphics card xD which has saved me a lot of money
>tfw your monitor costs as much as your graphics card
Men snälla Anders, 2020 är snart över, Witcher 3 är ett bra optimerat spel och knappast svårt att spela med över 80 fps.
Skaffa ett jobb eller förbättra din budget!
@@MrSham3less HAHAHHA
thank you for this simple explanation, straight to the point and informative
I use gsync with vsync. I run with a 150 rr and then I cap at 144 in game. No tearing at all. (My monitor is overclockable to 165 hz)
great video. I wasn't sure before, but in 2 minutes you've sold me.
If you could make it affordable that would be great, it feels like I've been waiting years for G-sync to drop in price.
Still waiting. Freesync is cheaper and seems to work almost identical, but the top end gpu is equivalent to the gtx 1070 (which is a great card, yeah, but still you have that limit. While nvidia offers 1080ti and the new rtx cards ). I'm actually considering the idea of buying the g-sync before a better nvidia card (now with a 960). Seems ridiculous to buy that instead of a new gpu, but my current monitor have some lighting issues.
Keep waiting :v
Good news
It’s free now.
welp
Looks like they may have *massively* increased the effect of the tearing/artifacting to make the difference easier to see, but that also runs the risk (or gain, in Nvidia's books) of making the consumer think the difference is going to be *this* dramatic.
It's cool stuff, people. Just remember that this is an example of the *type* of improvement, not an accurate measurement of the *amount* of improvement. Most games (even on poorly built or outdated rigs/consoles) aren't gonna be as bad as the left side video shown here. Ever.
i was thinking the same thing
It makes so much more sense now that I see that difference rather than listening to an explanation. If you try to explain it to me I’ll have no idea what your talking about. Show me this and I understand perfectly
simple video much easy to understand. thank you
I'm using a 265hz monitor with a 3090. I don't see a difference with or without gsync for some reason.
Huge difference for sure! Just waiting for larger screen sizes.
The future is here 55” inch 120hz 4k
never had I ever have that massive stutter because of v-sync... I can see the advantage but that sort of marketing is a bit annoying... same goes for
"Get super crisp images in 4k!!!"
_crisp image_
"compared to regular images"
_image take with a potato..._
i have, it's honestly pretty accurate this time. that kinda screen tearing and stuttering is common for a lot of people, lucky that you haven't had that kinda stuff. my new Gsync monitor really made a huge difference for me.
I have too, but i prefer it versus having screen tearing. I remember when i got eyes up for vsync on, from Battlefield 2. Was a total gamechanger on how the image looked, been on since ;)
thats not marketing I own a gsync and it works perfectly fine and it's soooo smooth, tried my older 144hz screen with vsync and it's stuttering like crazy
@@TerjeNesthus I can't play FPSs with v-sync, at least not twitch shooters. So I decide to deal with screen tearing instead of not hitting shots
I've had that kind of vsync stutter. You can get rid of it by turning it off, but then you get tearing. This video is accurate
Can I use G-sync to put my life back together like it did the screen tears?
XD
my screen is a hp omen 2k resolution with 144 hertz and nvidia g-sync hardware, and this is so verry cool!
I hate when people pretend something isn't awesome just because they can't afford it. :/ I couldn't afford gsync just a few short years ago but I damn sure wanted it...
I'm three years late but you just spat straight facts here.
Wonderful! Now out monitors can get dragged into this incompatibility warfare just like our mainboard chipsets and CPUs have.
Thankfully by now most good monitors if not all of them support both freesync and g sync
Short. Sweet. Simple. And to the point
Nice man, my monitor doesn't support G-Sync and I'm having stutter.. what do I do now? I certainly don't want to buy a new monitor since mine is good apart from this.
good explenation. the only thing i disagree with is going stalkers against battlecruisers. but heck, back in the day battlecruisers couldn't yet shoot while moving :3
So simple and so Effective :)
G-Sync is the best thing since SSD, i can NEVER go back to a normal display again.
Freesync is okay, but it has BIG problems below 45fps, for most people, this will probably not be a problem.
people who say they dont need Gsync ... poor you, you must seen tearing/stutter all your life and gotten used to it . but if you were to play with Gsync for a week - you cant go back anymore. you just cant - your brain will just start to think "how did this stuter/tearing did not bother me before?"
I get the feeling the big-tech on the gsync module is ULMB and the reason it's not shown, can't be recorded without the camera picking up on the flicker
Just turn on Fast V-Sync, you won't notice any stuttering, and there's no tearing at all.
I've been using nvidia cards for years and have gotten used to 144hz monitors. I don't really experience any screen tearing or stuttering. In fact, the entire reason for why I upgraded to 144hz was to eliminate those problems.
So, the whole G-Sync thing completely eludes me. I don't use V-Sync because I frankly don't need it, plus it impacts performance. I don't understand what benefits G-Sync actually brings. Because, in my mind, any sort of synchronization mechanics means that some sort of limitation is being imposed on something (namely the GPU in this case). So, doesn't that imply you're lowering the effectiveness of your GPU by enabling this?
Is there any benefit of enabling this when you don't experience any tearing in the first place?
To be honest, that is exactly what I have been thinking. I am looking to buy a gaming monitor because I am upgrading my rig as a whole but in my country there is no G-SYNC monitor that meets my requirements, only freesync alternatives. But I have played on the same monitors with no issues, even if they had NVIDIA GPUs. So I think in this day and age G-SYNC isn't worth it :/
Yes there is a benefit, because VSync + G-Sync (or VSync + FreeSync) reduces jitter and stuttering, as far as I know. Read BlurBuster's article called "G-Sync 101" to learn more and have your questions answered.
I can see some stutter in the g-sync video part, not like the other side, but some stutters I see. That means that there's no Stutter free. My monitor with triple buffer v-sync on, has less stuttering than this video...
I really hope that there will be mouse lag with G-sync too!!
That comment doesn't even make sense... what are you trying to communicate over? Take your time....
I’ve been playing on a ASUS PG348Q with G-Sync and I have to say it’s smooooooooth worth it
Either the video captions were wrong, or V-Sync looked better to me. This video did NOT sell me on G-Sync.
Should i get a g-synch monitor or rather a cheaper, 144 fps monitor ?
***** I barely got a 960, short on cash :D Monitor will come in autumn most probably, currently have a 5-year old 1080p Samsung. Looking to change it for another 1080p LED monitor, but i want a good one if i'm gonna mash all that money on it.
How can we lock down the FPS to the monitor's refresh rate? i mean, an easy way, not all that rtss and nvidia inspector things. frame limiting should be integrated into the control panel, otherwise we can't really benefit from g-sync if FPS is always above refresh rate... Nvidia please hear us out, or if i'm missing something, someone please tell me or help
Luckily the Acer set the MSRP of the XB271HU below market price at my place, which makes it cheaper than comparable Freesync monitor. It made me get the GTX1070 even though I'm AMD's fan :X
только не говорят о том что нужно врубать вертикалку все равно ,иначе не добиться такого эффекта даже с г синком
Everybody is getting it, but not me because it's preserved for 1070 buyers - keep your dreams for later, when you buy something again. This is an issue not able to run it at 60 fps. Should EU discuss removing V-syncs off completely - it's playable or it's not and this problem persists as some roads.
Вот это реклама, они показывают на моем старом мониторе картинку, которая бы выглядела на новом мониторе с платой g-sync, вы какие-то гении.
So with G-sync i can finaly turn off my vsync in games right ?
Gsync on + Vsync on (nvidia driver)+ fps limiter 3fps les than your max.
Yeah, you can. Actually, you should for a smoother experience.
@@jqn88Why would you enable V-Sync on the NVCP? G-Sync & Free-Sync already solve Screen-Tearing by themselves.
Is it me, or is this the first 60fps video Nvidia has uploaded? Finally :)
Does overclocking the refresh rate also automatically increases the g sync range?
0:50 huh ?? i've never experienced these so called stuttered frames display while using an AMD card ... is this an Nvidia only thing ? i'm legit confused about this because every twitch stream i know who uses an Nvidia GPU as soon as they launch a game the very first thing they do is go in the setting and turns off vsync , and in their stream we can clearly see screen tearing and im like why would you do that ?
for an AMD gpu with Freesync they recommand to have Vsync ON for freesync to function properly, which makes me even more confused, isn't freesync just vsync at this point ? isn't gsync just vsync ? or whats going here
Been using a gtx 650, 1060 and now a 2080ti on the same full HD 60fps Monitor for the last 6 years always with vsync on and never had anything like that.
Nothing is wrong with our monitors... nothing is wrong with our GPU's... the problem is the communication between them, no matter how advanced monitors get, or GPU's they are useless unless we let the communicate. Great video Nvidia.
with RTX 2060 super , i need to put G-SYNC on or off?
What a game is shown in the video is similar to Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars?
I bought 144hz gsync asus monitor because of g sync tech for $255.00
Thanks
doesn't screen tearing only happen when the game's framerate is way past the refresh rate of the monitor?
I have 60Hz monitor,and when my fps below 60fps,i still get screen tearing
+Banana In The Sky if the screen is tearing, then use g-sync dude
G-sync monitors are expensive
+zman2748 no.
It happens every time when the buffer switch from back to front buffer doesn't happen exactly the time when image has finished drawing. (When nothing is drawn on screen.)
Even with perfect 60fps on 60hz monitor. (In which case you can static tear line, when fps/hz do not match you get moving tearline.)
They could've used a different game. VSYNC on does not cause stuttering in most cases.
I have a GTX 1080 OC Strix it is worth it to get g-sync? I want to get a monitor 1440p 144hz soon which is the PG279Q that have g-sync worth?
I have 1050 Ti but my monitor have no G-Sync
Does V-sync stuttering affect recording?
sorry for not good english
name of song please??
Do I need G-Sync if my frames per second isn't reaching my refresh rate? I don't have a DisplayPort 1.4 cable so I can't have HDR + G-sync. I have to choose one or the other by choosing either HDMI or DisplayPort(not 1.4 which supports both).
I may be wrong but from what I've been seeing, gsync only adjust your monitor's refresh rate up until it's native refresh rate. Anything passed that and you are subject to screen tearing. You also don't need Gsync. Only if screen tearing really bothers you.
What an excellent video u really outdid yourself with this
I'm wathcing this video and not sure if image is ripped in the vedeo or by my monitor...
Good illustration!!
So I'm assuming not all monitors work for this?
i have a Alienware AW2518H monitor and not a NVIDIA graphics card can i still use g sync
So why does gsync need vsync ON to work (without tearing)? Is gsync a superset of vsync?
Also why cant I just use a frame rate limit to avoid all of these issues?
although my MSI gtx 750 ti which says its compatable with g-sync doesnt have a display port :/
hello i bought a new monitor aoc 24g2u has freesync feature but my laptop has nvdia graphics card (1650) and only hdmi port is on the monitor i bought, the monitor has hdmi and vga ports. Can I activate gsync if I plug it into the hdmi part on the laptop ?????
You need display port to use gsync.
Thanks!
Hi! Can I hook the predator helios 300 with GTX 1050Ti with any Gsync monitor and get 144hz up refresh rate?
but wont gamers notice drop in fps when the screen works as per the rendering speed of gpu ??
3 years later and still no good G-Sync monitors for under $250. COME ON NVIDIA!
Can i keep it on forever without a gsync monitor
But first got to fix the input lag issue, when fps hits monitor's refresh rate cap.
Vsync on or fast?
VSync on. G-Sync and FreeSync are meant to be used with VSync on and also with your framerate limited to some number lower than your monitor's refresh rate. I don't know much about VSync "fast" setting.
I have a monitor that claims to use g-sync its fine. The only problem is i barely notice a difference between that and a regular so its not worth it now.
You usually need it if you can't hit a constant fps I'm betting you have quite a beast rig
Marc Andrew Geolingo It beastly. I have sli 980's and i will switch to amd's top of the line once they release a new gpu to combat the titan hopefully it cheaper
AstroMagic You should push it harder then
Danny Espinoza What...?
AstroMagic He is saying to push your PC harder when gaming. Crank every setting to ultra "you probably do" and use DSR to set the resolution to 4K "if you do not have a 4k monitor, use DSR". Then Gsync will kick on when the framerate dips below 60. You say you don't notice a difference with it on, its because your sli 980's are keeping your fps at 60 or higher. It would be a waste to buy those AMD cards when you aren't even pushing the 980's. It would have made a lot more sense to have just one 980 with a Gsync monitor. With a Gsync monitor it really is pointless it to crank out hundreds of frames per second, or anything past 60. Then there is this, you cannot use Gsnyc with AMD video cards.. Sure you can plug the monitor in but it will just be another regular monitor and Gsync will not be able to be turned on. You would be downgrading if you switched to AMD. Their cards have less technology's put into them, they're cheaper for a reason "budget cards". So what if they can put out 60fps, what else can they do, NOTHING.. Sounds like you don't know much about your own system and how the technology's even work. I am starting to wonder if you even no how to turn Gsync on, it requires more than just plugging in the monitor ;)
G-Sync turns on whenever I fullscreen video, like this one, should I disable G-Sync when not playing a game, or is leaving it on and watching desktop video fine? The ROG PG279Q light turns red whenever I fullscreen.
Very|y good comparison
wow, I understood this... in like 2 minutes.. sub'd
and what if we use both?
Why G-Sync though? It should be NSYNC for nvidia. Suits well
i think the reason is because NVidia's graphics cards are called 'GeForce', so this way their is some alliteration between the card names and G-Sync to make it easier to understand.
I Have a Samsung G7 32", is it better with G-sync on or off (and use 240 hz)?
On but my one flickered lol.
will a g-sync monitor work with an RTX 2070?
It has to. Unless you're getting space invaders.
The solution: my old 144Hz 3D monitor
nope, it does not support variable refresh rates, and then you are stuck with the same problems.
***** The problem is when you have a fixed refresh rate of the monitor and the GPUs non fixed output will lead to a harmonic dissidence between the two component. This is a fancy way of saying the frames from the GPU does not line up with fractions of the framerate of the screen. The GPU will then miss refresh intervals and screen tearing will occur. If you can set the max refresh rate of the game to the native refresh rate of the screen and always reach that goal you are good to go. But with a 120Hz screen half that is 60 fps so you will not get any positives out of having a 120Hz screen if you cant match the fps always. Thats unless you either do not notice or screen tearing does not bother you as much, which is totally a personal thing. If you have said max fps and cant match that max fps then screen tearing will occur, again you might not be susceptible to noticing that.
The alternative VSync is more than just Max fps, but if programmed correctly it wont add any latency (some games are not programmed correctly). VSync stutters occur when you cant match the native refresh rate it halfens that (the best fraction after native is half). When it changes to half refresh rate it will wait for up to half a second, and that is noticeable as a stutter.
Soon enough Adapticsync (FreeSync) and GSync will be cheap enough to be omnipresent, and this wont be an issue because it does not just alleviate the down sides of VSync/not synced, it also looks better.
mike shwilly I have a 144Hz 3D monitor... and i had terrible tearing in this video xD
What does the G stand for???
Does G sync need displayport to work or can it function with HDMI?
Displayport except for LG OLED TVs which do it over HDMI 2.1
Nvidia is deadass the only corporation iv known to almost NEVER screw up. All there products are amazing. Whos their CEO again?
Please help, I have gtx960 and my problem is a screen stutter, I tried everything, on, off, adaptive but still I have that problem almost on every game. Playing on TV 60hz, never had that on my previous gpu gtx 560.
TL:DR= This technology is far from ready and Nvidia has been getting VERY lazy with quality control.
This technology is horrible. I've owned a ROG swift and the Acer Gsync 4k monitor and was horribly disappointed with both units. It hardly works for single card setups so forget about high end 2-4 way SLI setups.Typical ploy to get more money for mediocre products. The low end 2560x1440@120Hz overclocking Korean monitors (Xstar/Qnix) are very comparable to these and are only 25% of the price.
Also, Nvidia can't even get their "flag ship" GTX980s and 970s to produce stable frames at over 80% usage yet and the cards have been out since September.
Check out this 100 page thread on how everyone is having trouble with the new 9XX series. All requests for explanations have been ignored buy Nvidia.
forums.geforce.com/default/topic/781982/geforce-drivers/nvidia-geforce-gtx-900-series-feedback-gathering-low-gpu-load-and-other-issues-/
still better than freesync monitors that only have adaptive refresh rates in a 35Hz window....lol
Toxic Biohazard that's not a limitation with freesync - freesync spec is able to go from 9hz to 144hz. the limitation window you talk about is due to panel limitations. look at the reviews online and you'll see why.
Who else is watching this on a g sync monitor they already have
Yeet
I can still see stuttering with G-sync and I don't even game PC. It makes my eyes bleed
Got myself an acer xf240h 144hz g-sync monitor not to long ago and im better at games now
loud and clear now
Now just need to make them over 30 inches and 4k.
Would be cool to have it on any monitor. Dont wanna pay for a special monitor for this stugg to work
The Unpredictable Jack freesync was supposed to do that. but monitor manufacturers decided not to build according to VESA spec made about 5 years ago, so there are very few freesync monitors and lousy refresh rate ranges to boot. there is obviously more to it, but that's the quick version. so nvidia went ahead and charged lots of money to do the same thing amd wanted to do by adding their hardware to the mix. can't argue with what they do, everyone buys their stuff.
Good Explanation!
Just bought asus rogt swift pg248q and i have flickering bug, the problem is i tested on other PC with 9series gpu it looks ok but with my current gtx 1070 the monitor is flickering. The problem is the drivers or i dont know what isnt completed because as i googled many users have this issue with 10series gtx... Now i RMA my monitor and i beleave im just gonna have to buy other monitor without g sync :(
The point is g sync is like in early access with bugs... GL with that :) full google with unlimited posts of flickering issue with g sync monitors.
The real solution here is to spend the extra premium that it would cost for a G-Sync monitor on a better graphics card in the first place. A high end graphics card will be able to push very high framerates which will result in screen tearing so minimal that it's indistinguishable to the human eye.
Buying a G-Sync monitor is basically spending money to compensate the fact that your graphics card can't keep up.
That is incorrect. Screen tearing in some cases gets worse with a better card
OxygenLessGaming Great citation m8
Screen Tearing gets worse the higher the FPS.
Christopher Serr Lmao. Ok m8.
I think what you and OxygenLessGaming are trying to say is that above 60 FPS results in screen tearing which is true (and will continue to be true until about 150 FPS), but once your FPS gets to a very high level such as 300, the screen tearing is so minimal that you can barely see it even if you're trying.
This happens because the frame timing is reduced to 3.33 ms (3.33ms to render each frame). Since the frames are so close to eachother, the two frames that are merged together in the 'tear' will be only 3.33ms apart in time, so the difference between the two images will be nearly the same.
Sorry if my explanation was poor but do some of your own research and you'll find that once you reach such framerates, screen tearing becomes irrelevant. Hell, you can experiment for yourself too if you have a PC that's fast enough to run games that fast.
I have duo 980s and an i7 and i have done the research... Good day sir
Do G-sync monitors have HDMI?
Some do (BenQ sells one). But I'm pretty sure G-Sync is only supported over DisplayPort.
My laptop came with a 60hz display panel, I switched it out for a 120hz display. If I use G-SYNC will the gpu know that my display is 120hz or will it think that it is still 60 since that is what came from the factory?
You can change the Hz in the control panel for all monitors. You can set a 120Hz at 80Hz if you wanted to. You can overclock your monitor too from 120Hz to 150Hz depending on how well made it is.
Saint Satan thanks. I’ll do some research on overclocking. I’m a complete noob at this. My laptop is the first windows pc I’ve used in over 10 years
say you have a 144hz monitor. can't you just select 144hz refresh rate in the nvidia control-panel for the game..thus rendering g-sync obsolete? am I missing something?
yes, your brain ;D
borny hitch I guess you know nothing about it then
@@d33846 i guess you're wrong
@@bornyhitch1975 wrong about what? if you're going to say something like that, back it up with some facts - not just mindless drone calling people out
@@d33846 "shut up if you can't take a joke" ;)
does it work with GTX 610m ?
It works with GTX 650ti and higher graphic cards, so it doesn’t work with yours :(