I'm glad you liked that Kaientai match. It's one of those random matches I remember watching live, and I loved how Cole and The King marked out over the Posse's finishing moves. Perfect 5 minute TV match.
I think I saw that one live because the line about the King cracking funnies over their moves feel very familiar. Even if I did not, I have seen enough King that I am pretty sure I know how it went. 🤣
Though it may seem weird looking at their record, I always felt the Mean Street Posse was undervalued and underused. The gimmick was great for the comedy aspect, being thugs from Greenwich. With the odds significantly stacked in their favor, they could work as effective enforcers, while failing whenever the odds weren't so favorable. The Kaientai match in particular showed how to get good use from them.
The MSP vs. Stooges match set a cable viewership record for a wrestling match at the time and is still in the top-5 to this day (where, with pop culture so fragmented these days, it will likely remain forever).
Great video Hawk. Was rewatching some of your wrestler movie reviews the other day and they have so much entertainment value I was wondering if you would ever revisit reviewing movies again that involve wrestlers. I know that's kind of Brian Zane's territory but I like you are unique take on a lot of the stuff. All of the videos have several laugh out loud moments for me
How about a British Bull Dog 99 return run video? No chance he had more than 30 matches. It was an awful run but atleast we'll get to hear Michael Coles "dog poop" line.
People can say what they want about the Mean Street Posse (mainly Pete Gas and Rodney), but you can't deny that they didn't try to make a go at professional wrestling. Both Pete and Rodney were eventually sent down to Memphis Championship Wrestling (which was WWF's developmental territory at the time) to learn how to properly work, whereas they could've easily just phoned it in for a quick and easy paycheck.
Didn't one get sent to Puerto Rico though? Isn't that where wwf sent ppl they wanted to leave but because of contracts they couldn't release them without paying the whole contract? To make them miserable so they quit? I wonder if it was Rodney as he and Shane ain't friends no more.
@@savagecatgt It was Pete Gas actually. But you're right. Back then before OVW became their primary developmental territory, they sent a lot guys down they didn't want anymore to IWA Puerto Rico. Tiger Ali Singh was sent down there after realizing he wasn't worth the money he was being paid.
Fun fact: Joey Abs was friends with the Hardys going back to their OMEGA days. He's kinda the unknown/forgotten piece of the Matt/Lita/Edge drama because he had long been retired from wrestling and not many know nor remember the girl they both were dating on and off.
Found this on reddit: Hardy got released because he was blamed for slashing Edge's tires at a live event in North Carolina which was the first time Matt and Edge were together at a WWE event since everything was exposed. If you listen to Matt tell his side of the story, he wasn't even in the same city as Edge when it happened. According to him, Joey Abs, from the Mean Street Posse, told the WWE that Matt did it and Abs was at one point a close friend of Matt's but things fell apart after Joey got cut from WWE, got onto drugs I think, and Matt started dating one of his exes after Lita. That's the reason why Matt Hardy was released. Whether or not you think he actually did it is one thing. It's hard not to see WWE's position in something like that though.
Loved these guys. I honestly thought they were the cool as fuck. Lol. I'll always remember them going after Crash Holly for the 24/7 title and aways failing.
Bro, look here idgaf what people think about the screaming Hawk intro. I NEED THAT ISH IN MY LIFE. I literally scream along with you every damn time like it's your wrestling catchphrase 😂😂 and I know dang well others do. Also now that idk if BTE is actually dead or not bc the dark order is just to full of innuendo teenage humor for me your channel and Wrestlingbios all I have left to look forward to any more wrestling wise 😭 I need that chant BROTHER!
Since this is the only place to bring it up, Posse went to Memphis for developmental, broke up, with Joey Abs just having a black singlet, Rodney becoming babyface Rodrageous, with tassels, and Pete Gas eventually getting a singlet and some muscles and being known as...The Gas Man...what a trio of gimmicks
At least they had defined jobbers in the attitude era. It's supposed to go from Jobber to superstar(Jeff frickin Hardy). Now they turn main event people on main event contracts into the jobbers
@@dollarbill6342 And I refuse to act like I don't. WWE has done an excellent job of giving 250k a year and theme music to jobbers and calling them "superstars"
Tony Khan is the worst offender for that. Gives people big money and then completely kills any momentum and turns them all into jobbers 😂😂 #booker of the year!
@@georgeh4171If I'm TV execs I'm pulling the plug idgaf at this point, especially if I'm a fan of wrestling oh hell nah you outta here when the contracts up. It's not even about competing with anyone. They don't even respect themselves enough to develop a competitive locker room in a way that helps the company in a positive way.
One of my favorite entertainers of that era. The Mean Street Posse might not have had much wrestling training but their timing was great and were good promos. Also, their theme song and vignettes were top notch!
@@StevetheAmericanPatriot He was actually a indy guy who came up the same way as the Hardys before they signed (part time jobber since 1994, wrestled in other places in-between).
Watching these guys learn the ropes in the middle of the show is a guilty pleasure of mine, and so are the stooges. There's something charming about watching the retired booking assistants fet massive reactions out of attitude era crowds with ten punches in the corner.
I feel like when rating a jobber team like this, the believability of their selling of opponents' moves should be the main factor. That knee slide sell was actually very nice. Looked like it hurt for real.
These guys were great. Simple job, didn't overstep their abilities, it was good fun. Adding Joey Abs was an extremely big brain move, though. it gave them a little extra bite!
Interesting Factoid, the Mean Street Posse vs Test was on RAW opposite a Hulk Hogan vs Macho Man world title match on Nitro and RAW got the higher rating.
I'd love to see a ring of the hawk video about dusty rhodes in ecw, that run was mentioned during a cody rhodes promo during the build-up to wrestlemania 39 and I don't think it gets talked about enough as it should
Pete Gas on Smackdown did get a pinball victory over Crash Holly and won the Hardcore Championship for about 4 or 5 seconds and then Crash Holly rolled hi up in win it back; all while being in Crash Holly's hotel room.
Every move he does has that extra oomph. This is the same guy who made the big boot look cool. So it's no surprise Edit: Also, its sad that people forget test's elbow drop. It just looks so devastating
MarkyD I request wrestling revolver reviews. You commonly see fellas that appear on impact while the crowds are usually invested in the matches (especially the Iowa shows)
Ahhhhhhhhhhh MSP, guys were perfect fodder and i loved em. Looking back they were somewhat more versatile in terms of moves then in remember like Rodney trying a moon-sault and a blockbuster.
For context, it's the 5/10/1999 Raw where they ran unopposed because Nitro was pre-empted by the NBA playoffs. The show was frontloaded accordingly and Shawn Michaels made an appearance. He made a bunch of matches (including the MSP vs. Stooges match in this ideo) and was the guest referee for Stone Cold/The Rock/Vince McMahon vs. Undertaker/Triple H/Shane McMahon.
I believe on Sunday Night Heat, the Mean Street Posse did get a victory over The Headbangers and The Headbangers did get that win back the next week I believe.
If you're looking for a short run to review, I'd be interested to see what you think of Orange Cassidy's dozen or so matches during his time in EVOLVE?
I really enjoyed it. I have it on Kindle and have read it twice. He talks about growing up, being friends with Shane, how they got started and how it ended. It is a hard read if your a highly sensitive person as you really feel how pro wrestling just uses people a d then discards them.
Lmao I remember when the Radicalz showed up. I did not like any of the wcw & ecw wrestlers invading the WWE at the time. When the Mean Street Posse confronted the Radicalz backstage that was thee ONLY time I had faith in the Mean Street Posse kicking some ass. 😅
I remember scouring thrift stores around this time to buy sweater vests like rodney and pete gas wore, they were then gifted to my dad and brother on christmas.
Edge's WWE run from 2020-2023 only lasted 28 matches. Batista had 24 matches from his 2014 WWE run, 25 if you count his 2019 WrestleMania match. If sure both of them will do well.
There's a lot of things in wrestling that are only remembered as these vague details, and it seems to be no different for the wrestlers according to interviews. I don't think it's anything to worry about. Clearly, the Mean Street Posse did something right to deserve being so "fondly" remembered.
Wonder who's next: Christian York, 'Old Buck' Mike Jackson, Female Moose, Ciclope, Unmasked Rey Mysterio, Berlyn, 'Primetime' Elix Skipper (WCW) Avalanche, Canadian Jim Duggan, etc ...
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The fact Shane built himself and the posse from the rough and mean streets of Greenwich Connecticut is hilarious as hell to me
Fr a bunch of privileged kids acting gangasta I mean it’s not far off from reality
The vignettes by the posse about Shane being a badass were hilarious.
Privileged private school kids acting like hard men on road. The mean street posse were ahead of their time. Lmfao
There are no streets tougher.
That is why I enjoy Shane more than the rest of the McMahon family
The fact that they got rebranded as The Shield and became the most iconic trio in wrestling of all time is simply amazing.
Most don't know the true history
Rodney Reigns
Pete Ambrose
Joey Rollins 😆
💀😂😂😂
I shoulda known….
I'm glad you liked that Kaientai match. It's one of those random matches I remember watching live, and I loved how Cole and The King marked out over the Posse's finishing moves. Perfect 5 minute TV match.
I think I saw that one live because the line about the King cracking funnies over their moves feel very familiar. Even if I did not, I have seen enough King that I am pretty sure I know how it went. 🤣
Pete Gas was legit entertaining. Mean Street Posse was a great jobber crew - all the hardcore title stuff in 1999-2000 was hilarious
It played its part perfectly. And props to them for taking bumps and being safe with everyone, they were super green.
Some real magic can be made when the wrestlers just accept their position and proudly run with it lol
His book is pretty good too.
@@savagecatgthe wrote a book?
The Posse was there for 5 minutes of comic relief each week and they did their jobs well. Actually impressive they were so good without training.
Agree they played their characters well.
That Pete Gas Fanclub sign was amazing
YESSSSSSS, the world needed a Mean Street Posse video
we need a royal rumble entrance from Pete gas
Shawn stasiak in the wwf... Looks like a potential ring of the hawk for meat
Their entrance music gets them an automatic A
Though it may seem weird looking at their record, I always felt the Mean Street Posse was undervalued and underused. The gimmick was great for the comedy aspect, being thugs from Greenwich. With the odds significantly stacked in their favor, they could work as effective enforcers, while failing whenever the odds weren't so favorable. The Kaientai match in particular showed how to get good use from them.
Jeesus, check out Rodney's landing at 12:56. Almost broke his neck.
It was such a great heel move, to have HHH & Steph have their faces on the side of the titantron. Good times
The Mcmahon Helmsley era is my favourite version of HHH. Pretty much anything when he has the "my time" theme.
Missed out the Posse running in on the Royal Rumble 2000 and Pete Gas hitting his own throat on the bottom rope on the way in. Is hilarious.
It sounds painful and possible life threatening. Like a chop to the throat. Yikes!
The Mean Street Posse were more over than anybody on today’s roster
Everyone was more over at the time than any wrestler in any company now
That's true!
it's a different time, genius. @@petesmart1983
The MSP vs. Stooges match set a cable viewership record for a wrestling match at the time and is still in the top-5 to this day (where, with pop culture so fragmented these days, it will likely remain forever).
Great video Hawk. Was rewatching some of your wrestler movie reviews the other day and they have so much entertainment value I was wondering if you would ever revisit reviewing movies again that involve wrestlers. I know that's kind of Brian Zane's territory but I like you are unique take on a lot of the stuff. All of the videos have several laugh out loud moments for me
The Screaming Hawk intro needs to be back…permanently.
Love it...
The hawk coming through like a brick to the face
How about a British Bull Dog 99 return run video? No chance he had more than 30 matches. It was an awful run but atleast we'll get to hear Michael Coles "dog poop" line.
That was……REALLY hard to watch as a fan of Bulldog. It was so obvious he wasn’t in a good place.
At least much better than his time in WCW. He totally look like Brutus Beefcake (Especially his segment with Alex Wright)
People can say what they want about the Mean Street Posse (mainly Pete Gas and Rodney), but you can't deny that they didn't try to make a go at professional wrestling. Both Pete and Rodney were eventually sent down to Memphis Championship Wrestling (which was WWF's developmental territory at the time) to learn how to properly work, whereas they could've easily just phoned it in for a quick and easy paycheck.
Didn't one get sent to Puerto Rico though? Isn't that where wwf sent ppl they wanted to leave but because of contracts they couldn't release them without paying the whole contract? To make them miserable so they quit?
I wonder if it was Rodney as he and Shane ain't friends no more.
@@savagecatgt It was Pete Gas actually. But you're right. Back then before OVW became their primary developmental territory, they sent a lot guys down they didn't want anymore to IWA Puerto Rico. Tiger Ali Singh was sent down there after realizing he wasn't worth the money he was being paid.
I'm not ashamed to admit that I loved the Mean Street Posse. The Gas Mask is a great maneuver!
you wouldn't believe how happy I was when I saw the entire Posse was in Smackdown 2 for ps1... and use of the entrance music... pure bliss
Fun fact: Joey Abs was friends with the Hardys going back to their OMEGA days. He's kinda the unknown/forgotten piece of the Matt/Lita/Edge drama because he had long been retired from wrestling and not many know nor remember the girl they both were dating on and off.
How was he involved with the love triangle? I've not heard this before. Thanks! :)
Found this on reddit:
Hardy got released because he was blamed for slashing Edge's tires at a live event in North Carolina which was the first time Matt and Edge were together at a WWE event since everything was exposed.
If you listen to Matt tell his side of the story, he wasn't even in the same city as Edge when it happened. According to him, Joey Abs, from the Mean Street Posse, told the WWE that Matt did it and Abs was at one point a close friend of Matt's but things fell apart after Joey got cut from WWE, got onto drugs I think, and Matt started dating one of his exes after Lita.
That's the reason why Matt Hardy was released. Whether or not you think he actually did it is one thing. It's hard not to see WWE's position in something like that though.
Loved these guys. I honestly thought they were the cool as fuck. Lol. I'll always remember them going after Crash Holly for the 24/7 title and aways failing.
That wrestlemania match at 2000 was so fun. Miss fun stuff in wrestling.
12:39 Such a cool random double team moves😅
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say JBL was the one who busted Pete Gas open in the hardcore battle royal.
Bro, look here idgaf what people think about the screaming Hawk intro. I NEED THAT ISH IN MY LIFE. I literally scream along with you every damn time like it's your wrestling catchphrase 😂😂 and I know dang well others do. Also now that idk if BTE is actually dead or not bc the dark order is just to full of innuendo teenage humor for me your channel and Wrestlingbios all I have left to look forward to any more wrestling wise 😭 I need that chant BROTHER!
Mean Street Posse for the HOF.
Yes!
Yes definitely they deserve to be on it more then snoop dog and Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson
Unlockable in Smackdown 2 on PS1 along with Stooges I believe.
Those crowds popped for everything in those days lol
The Posse theme is still awesome at least.
Those chair shots from Bradshaw where devastating... someone should tell him wrestling is not real.
Ahhh I requested them a whileeee back, happy you did them! I loved their theme song haha
Since this is the only place to bring it up, Posse went to Memphis for developmental, broke up, with Joey Abs just having a black singlet, Rodney becoming babyface Rodrageous, with tassels, and Pete Gas eventually getting a singlet and some muscles and being known as...The Gas Man...what a trio of gimmicks
At least they had defined jobbers in the attitude era. It's supposed to go from Jobber to superstar(Jeff frickin Hardy).
Now they turn main event people on main event contracts into the jobbers
Finally someone gets it
@@dollarbill6342 And I refuse to act like I don't. WWE has done an excellent job of giving 250k a year and theme music to jobbers and calling them "superstars"
Tony Khan is the worst offender for that. Gives people big money and then completely kills any momentum and turns them all into jobbers 😂😂
#booker of the year!
@@georgeh4171If I'm TV execs I'm pulling the plug idgaf at this point, especially if I'm a fan of wrestling oh hell nah you outta here when the contracts up. It's not even about competing with anyone. They don't even respect themselves enough to develop a competitive locker room in a way that helps the company in a positive way.
One of my favorite entertainers of that era. The Mean Street Posse might not have had much wrestling training but their timing was great and were good promos. Also, their theme song and vignettes were top notch!
Joey Abs was a legit call up from OVW. He was the only one who wasn't Shane's childhood friend.
@@StevetheAmericanPatriot He was actually a indy guy who came up the same way as the Hardys before they signed (part time jobber since 1994, wrestled in other places in-between).
Their theme was also a banger for some reason. I liked how Rodney and Pete improved a bit and kudos for them taking Acolyte bumps.
Great video
About time mean street posse gets some love, i personally loved this crew
Watching these guys learn the ropes in the middle of the show is a guilty pleasure of mine, and so are the stooges. There's something charming about watching the retired booking assistants fet massive reactions out of attitude era crowds with ten punches in the corner.
I was genuinely impressed by that flip into a powerbomb😮 never seen that one before
Which short run would you rather cover for Ring of the Hawk: The Warrior in WCW, or Sting in WWE?
Did warrior have more than 1 match in wcw?
@@scottfitzgerald5309 I think he had three. I checked on Cagematch.
@@scottfitzgerald5309He teamed with Sting on Nitro and was part of the 1998 Wargames.
I feel like when rating a jobber team like this, the believability of their selling of opponents' moves should be the main factor. That knee slide sell was actually very nice. Looked like it hurt for real.
These guys were great. Simple job, didn't overstep their abilities, it was good fun. Adding Joey Abs was an extremely big brain move, though. it gave them a little extra bite!
i use to like the posse back in the day 99 is probably my favorite year in wrestling
Interesting Factoid, the Mean Street Posse vs Test was on RAW opposite a Hulk Hogan vs Macho Man world title match on Nitro and RAW got the higher rating.
Interesting factoid number 2, the MSP vs Stooges match drew the third highest ratings for a single segment in Raw history
Would be great if you did a video on the J.O.B. Squad. Literally a group of guys that would do the J-O-B for you.
I'd love to see a ring of the hawk video about dusty rhodes in ecw, that run was mentioned during a cody rhodes promo during the build-up to wrestlemania 39 and I don't think it gets talked about enough as it should
He has done one.
Pete Gas on Smackdown did get a pinball victory over Crash Holly and won the Hardcore Championship for about 4 or 5 seconds and then Crash Holly rolled hi up in win it back; all while being in Crash Holly's hotel room.
I miss test. His promos weren't overally strong but damn he was a beast and has a great look
Every move he does has that extra oomph. This is the same guy who made the big boot look cool. So it's no surprise
Edit: Also, its sad that people forget test's elbow drop. It just looks so devastating
Underrated theme song
Idk if it’s cause I’m stoned or this is legit funny, but it’s only 2:19 and km laughing 😂😂
Them chair shots to the head in the attitude era were insane yo lmao never realized how bad they looked
thanks Markyd123 !!
Mean Street Posse are something very few have covered.
MarkyD I request wrestling revolver reviews. You commonly see fellas that appear on impact while the crowds are usually invested in the matches (especially the Iowa shows)
Ahhhhhhhhhhh MSP, guys were perfect fodder and i loved em. Looking back they were somewhat more versatile in terms of moves then in remember like Rodney trying a moon-sault and a blockbuster.
The Background Music and your comments😂😂😂😂 😭
J.O.B. Squad were considered jobbers but they won more often than you'd think.
I have a feeling those matches with the Acolytes were part of the Posse's hazing.
That second match was on the highest rated Raw episode of all time
For context, it's the 5/10/1999 Raw where they ran unopposed because Nitro was pre-empted by the NBA playoffs. The show was frontloaded accordingly and Shawn Michaels made an appearance. He made a bunch of matches (including the MSP vs. Stooges match in this ideo) and was the guest referee for Stone Cold/The Rock/Vince McMahon vs. Undertaker/Triple H/Shane McMahon.
Rodney was preety good in the ring
Some real hard hitting gs.
I believe on Sunday Night Heat, the Mean Street Posse did get a victory over The Headbangers and The Headbangers did get that win back the next week I believe.
If you're looking for a short run to review, I'd be interested to see what you think of Orange Cassidy's dozen or so matches during his time in EVOLVE?
I await the shockmaster video.
hey Hawkster, do Marcus Cor Von’s WWE tenure in the future
I am a Shane McMahon mark so I love the posse. Thanks for making this.
I'm not gonna lie, that Stock Exchange double team was kind of clean
Joey abs was a Indy wrestler named venom if I remember correctr.
no one likes to admit it but we all love a filthy bit of posey ever now and then
Keep the Screaming Hawk intro! For Ring of the Hawk episodes anyways.
8:12 Imagine being scared of Venis.
Pete Gas apparently wrote a book about his time in wrestling called "Looking Up At The Lights"
Id actually really like to read it
I really enjoyed it. I have it on Kindle and have read it twice. He talks about growing up, being friends with Shane, how they got started and how it ended. It is a hard read if your a highly sensitive person as you really feel how pro wrestling just uses people a d then discards them.
Pete Gas had quite an interesting finisher called "The Gas Mask"
Pete really wanted to be a wrestler. So did Rodney. Sad they were discarded the way they were.
Shoutout to Brisco for starting the match off with a superman punch.
My buddies and I loved the "Mean Street Posse"...
They were a joke but they were hilarious!
Mankind:
Did I just get my ass kicked by the Mean Street Posse?
No surprise mick always suckt, especially in tna. Hogan was right, all he did was eat m&ms and mcdonalds he's in worse shape than ANYONE there.😊😮
Lmao I remember when the Radicalz showed up. I did not like any of the wcw & ecw wrestlers invading the WWE at the time. When the Mean Street Posse confronted the Radicalz backstage that was thee ONLY time I had faith in the Mean Street Posse kicking some ass. 😅
Dunno why but yellow sweater vest always made me laugh just by looking at him.
Nice video boulder shouldered guy! Ha ha strong shoulder guy hawk
Always nice to see MSP getting shit on
Bonus: we get to see Steve Blackman and his infamous Mufuggin' Kick!
I remember scouring thrift stores around this time to buy sweater vests like rodney and pete gas wore, they were then gifted to my dad and brother on christmas.
Edge's WWE run from 2020-2023 only lasted 28 matches. Batista had 24 matches from his 2014 WWE run, 25 if you count his 2019 WrestleMania match. If sure both of them will do well.
Bruh. The Hawk sounded like he could care less the entire time watching this 😭💀
Hawk you definitely have to do Bret hart heel turn in 1997 ik it wasn’t long but it felt so realistic
I liked their entrance music
It can't be easy wrestling in a sweater vest and chinos....thankfully 90s clothes were so ridiculously baggy they had some leeway
At least their theme song was dope
There's a lot of things in wrestling that are only remembered as these vague details, and it seems to be no different for the wrestlers according to interviews. I don't think it's anything to worry about. Clearly, the Mean Street Posse did something right to deserve being so "fondly" remembered.
Wonder who's next: Christian York, 'Old Buck' Mike Jackson, Female Moose, Ciclope, Unmasked Rey Mysterio, Berlyn, 'Primetime' Elix Skipper (WCW) Avalanche, Canadian Jim Duggan, etc ...
I still Love their stable name and moves name.
My posses on Broadway lol 🤣 it's crazy to actually know how long they was in the wwf
the posse was so underrated but the whole "close friends of Shane" kinda ruined them XD even tho they really were friends of his
Underrated?
Them being friends with Shane made the whole thing work.
@@ryanrichardson76 those vignettes where the Posse boast about how much of a tough guy Shane was wouldn't work if they weren't pals with him.
@@DasNordlicht91 no one knew back thats why it worked!. It was so ridiclious. Shane was already the spoilt litle rich kid by this pont.
They don't make jobbers like used to. They could definitely do the J.O.B
3:36 What a maneuver. That dude was like a damn ragdoll to Test.
Man there fued with pat patterson and gearld briscoe is so fun to me😂
If you see this one Booker T and Test as a Tag team apparently they won the WCW and wwe world tags as a team
I think Tazz might be just over 30, but I’d like to see how his WWE run would stack up
According to Cagematch, Tazz had 124 televised with the WWE
Can we get Kid Kash in WWE for ring of the hawk?!
please do Dave Taylor in WWE or Tylker Reks in WWE
Aye thanks hawk !!