David Gilmour Tone Compressors review - Boss CS-2 VS Demeter Compulator VS MXR Dyna Comp Script
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- This is a shootout of main compressors used by the legendary David Gilmour.
The Boss CS-2, the Demeter Compulator and the MXR Dyna Comp Script Custom Shop Reissue.
This review is based on the amazing Shine On You Crazy Diamond.
The gear used is :
Strat Gilmour NOS Custom Shop
Hiwatt Little D with Genalex Gold Lion tubes
Xotic SL Drive (for second solo only)
Effectrode Tube-Vibe (for "Waving" part only)
Gurus Echosex 2 Delay
Hardwire Supernatural Reverb
Recording :
Shure SM57
AKAI EIE Pro
Logic Pro X
My choice for these is the Boss CS-2, really warm and opened sound with great reacting (thanks to the "Attack" knob).
I think the Compulator sounds best, that is with the settings you are using. However, the Dyna Comp is set in a way that it is squashing the sound too much. You need to back off the sensitivity so it is set around 9:30 or 10:00.
to my ears on my speakers the Boss seemed to have a fuller sound especially at about 3:20
I think your socks are on inside out.
Distinct possibility, that.
me too...
Gilmour always played ‘Shine On’ with inside out socks, but his were red hence the slight discrepancies on display here.
@@BlueStratRedStrat That's the secret of his tone.
Imagine guilmour playin "Wearing inside out" with these socks
I have all three of those and for cleans, hands down the boss is boss...fuzz tones or overdrive, the Demeter and mxr are better. Subjective to my ears of course, but just my thoughts. Good demo dude.
This is great, thanks for taking the time to do the demo. Compression is key to a Gilmour sound as you are clearly very aware and the MIJ Boss CS2 and script logo MXR Dynacomp so classic.
They all sound Good! It's pink Floyd....
yep, CS-2 all the way
"Opinions are like a**holes; everyone's got one and they all stink." How do we know that each pedal is set for the most optimal sound? All I know is Gilmour used a Dyna Comp back in the day. That's good enough for me personally.
Don't over think things. Which ever one you pick will sound fine.
Steve Croxton he uses a boss now and has for decades
I understand he used both. But the DCs made today just do not sound like the old ones (maybe somewhat similar, but ... ...)
The compulator sounds the most transparent, that's the one I want
T R A N S P A R E N T
might as well not use compressor at all then
I love my CS-2. 1983 Japanese Script. Nice.
It seems to me that the MXR has more warmth than the others..is it an impression? Do you ever combine more compressors at once?
CS2 the best for me.
CS2 rules
Boss ! Only CS - 2 Japan !!! Basic pedal Gilmour Sound !
03:13
04:37
CS-2 still in my pedalboard
Fuck, I have just bought the MXR, but here the Boss sounds better! BTW great job dude. Thank you!
Hi man, I see that you've changed your name . Do You really think this is going to help? Nice collection of pedals You have there. Did You buy these or did You steel them from Your customers, like You did with My Mooer live preamp pedal?
Oh snap!
Dayum
They all sound "right" in their own way, I have a Compulator that works well with so many tones, clean and dirty, and always sounds classic...highly recommended piece of professional gear for gigging and studio
have yet to try out some new ones...(Effectrode, Cali, etc...)
Boss CS-2!👍
MXR sounds most accurate pertaining to DG's tone specifically, but that CS-2 is just warm and delicious.
CS2 > All
Sweet tone!
Fantastic buddy, A big help. The MXR is defo for me. Thanks for making the effort in doing this vid
I really liked the CS2.
The Boss and MXR both sound perfect for David’s later sound, MLOR and on. The Boss is unsurprising for that (‘cause that’s what he used on the album) but I was shocked that the Compulator sounded better for his earlier Dyna-Comp sound than the Dyna-Comp.
The Dyna Comp IS the sound but you are choking the tone too much. Should be more like 11 o'clock not 3 o'clock -turn that knob down for more sustain and warmth. No way Gilmour had it at 3 o'clock.
Man I have just bought the Dyna comp. How would you recommend me to set it to get Gilmour sound? Thanks!
I like the MXR throughout ....
Same choice for me, Boss CS-2 !
Seems to me the dyna comp setting is too high.
Cs2 mate
The cs2 is the best ...
Demeter sounds more transparent and neat, Boss is more authentic for this particular song.
great review! I always love the Cs2...What about the VickAudio??
+Echoes86 - The Vick Audio is a really amazing pedal ! I haven't tried lot of Ram's Head clones (3 maybe) but when i tried this one, i knew that it was THE one :)
Vick is great
Demeter is the best. Clarity!!
Definitely the Demeter compulator
I like the Demeter Compulator
Why do I think the Boss is the best?
The dynacomp squashed the sound due to the high level of sensitivity!!!
The CS-2 sounds full and handle right the dynamics of the play in this video .. I think you're too confident with black one (forget the name lol) so your phrases went right .. and flowed as it seems to be..in the second part of the solo the dynacomp won... warm and dynamic ! With great sustain ..
Boss seams the closest one
Why didn't you use Guilmour settings? Cause the Mxr always soundssuper squished if you use so much compression.
You should really add an erection alert because this is just too rich!
Is that a backing track or did you just play on top of his lead? If it's a backing track, is it possible to get copies? Sounds great and the lead is on point. Good job.
+Durgo25 Thanks for your comment ! I used a backing track which you can find here : www.guitarbackingtrack.com/bts/Pink_Floyd.htm
Demeter was nice and transparent overall. I like the Dyna because it sounds perfect in the sustaining section although it would’ve definitely been better with the Sensitivity pulled back some.
It would be cool to add an Effectrode PC2A as it is on his board now....
Would have been more helpful if you had detailed/explained the settings on each pedal..
This is a really great demo of the pedals and lovely playing, thanks. All the compressors are nice but I can't help loving the CS2 in this. I'm using a Wampler ego at the moment and wondering whether to go back to Boss. I had a CS3 back in the day, it was noisy, but some good tones when set mildly. Did the Boss affect the signal much when off?
Hi David. The Compressor is my favorite pedal for replicating Gilmour's tone and i've tried A LOT of them. I actually keep two with, one Ross style and one optical.
For the Ross style, none has ever beaten the CS-2, it's my all time favorite ross-compressor and can't hear any difference in the signal chain with or without when turned off. (just to say : the CS-3, to my ears, is an awful crap and should never been used for gilmour's tone, but might suit other styles, don't know).
Yep. I had the Ego comp and was less than thrilled. For me, the only comp that is as good as my Boss CS-2 is my EMMA Transmorgrifier, early production though as the later have a slightly different circuit and are harsh. I still have my old script-logo dyna-comp which is nice as a boost, but otherwise I've bought and sold a million comps all defeated by the CS-2 and Transmorgrifier: Empress Comp, Cali76 big-box, Cali76 Compact Deluxe, EQD Warden, MXR M87, Keeley Comp+, Keeley 2-knob, Effectrode, Ego, etc. etc.
+1 - I love my transmorgrifier too.
Boss is the boss. It's sound floyd
boss
носок что ли наизнанку одел?! =))). Do you wear your sock inside out?
Dyna sounds more dark and DG. Demeter sounds great but sounds a tad too clean/transparent. It depends on each persons use. If DG sound, maybe get both pedals lol do light compression on both!
I'm sorry... I have to say it... This is a great review and comparison of the 3 compressors. but please, turn the delay off. It sounds wrong on this song... There was no delay on shine On so it just sounds too much... Sorry to make the comment, but the delay doesn't sound right
Andy Betts in studio version no delay.In live version yes.
Better comparison in a mix and not just the guitar.
It's fine. Every version live has delay, although maybe not quite this much
I think Dyna Comp is right sound but I love the sound of CS-2
1. CS2 IS THE BEST.
2. YOUR BENDS NEED TO BE IMPROVED.
Mário César Santos Unless your Gilmour everyone’s bends need improving!!!
Hello, thank you for the comparison, I approve. I also like you. What you use tubes Genalex. Also a little Hiwatt D. Alexander.
The Boss sounds the best to me. It just seems warmer and fuller sounding. Great video!
The attack is not great
Great review. Pedals used in context and comparison easily made. Well done excellent playing also 👍
The boss sounds best mainly because you have the Dynacomp set much higher than what he actually used on the record. If you dialed back the sustain and upped the volume a little you would have his sound.
This is better, it’s always about improving gradually upon what came before in areas it can be improved upon yet remain in close proximity to the likeness.
Love the way the CS-2 sounds, hated how it felt when I played it and was too noisy.
That is awesome. Thank you so much for that site. I may accidentally disappear for a few days playing to those.
Spot on tone. God bless n rock on.
Try lower compression setting on the compulator and higher position on gain trim pot
end up here was the best thing that happened me today.. thank you for sharing this.. u just got a new suscriber! what are the pedals David uses for this song besides the compressor?
+Daniel Bolanos (Mav3ricK21) Thanks for that nice comment :)
Actually, David didn't use any compressor on the studio version, he used a lot of them for the live versions but none on the studio one !
He only used Mxr Phase 90 and Colorsound Power Boost for the studio version ;)
To my ears, the MXR Dyna Comp sounded closest to original/live recordings!
Maybe on the recording, but to my ears, the Dyna Comp really squeeze the sound too much and you lose a lot of high-end definition. It's getting dark and muddy with it so it was my least favorite :/
The difference between You and David Gilmour is, that he buys his own pedals. You steal them from other people.
What do you mean?
@@diegogomez6835 This guy scammed a lot of people. This is the special facebook page for people that were ripped off by him.
facebook.com/groups/2628655594046164/?multi_permalinks=2711019952476394¬if_id=1593667263594106¬if_t=group_activity&ref=notif
@@useless7211 omg
Settings of the 73 ram's head? CNumb/animals and others... If you wanna share!
It's making my eyes water so you're doing right whichever pedal combo you are using!!
Yeah CS-2 sounds wonderful Should the compressor pedal come before the drive pedals to best get Gilmour tones ? Thx
There’s a big hum in the background
keiner der effekte ist 100 pro der gilmoure ton aber schon nahe dran. der gitarrist spielt auch nur ungefaehr wie david. mr. gilmoure hat jahre gebraucht u. alles was damals erhaeltlich war ausprobiert bis er seinen sound hatte.
Great demo!! You have also the xotic sp compressor in your board. How would you rate that in comparison to the other three? Also, what is the set up of the xotic sl for the second solo? How do you specify the internal switches? Thanks in advance for your help with this
bonjour Pouvez vous me dire quelles sont les references des lampes sur la tube-vibe ? merci
hello Can you tell me what are the references of the lamps on the tube-vibe? thank you
demeter compulator is the best !!!
The "Compulator " is the best and the "CS2" ...
Amazing
I had to sign in to give this a thumbs up. Really like the the fact that you added your own nuances to it rather than play it verbatim. I definitely prefer the MXR over the Boss. Thanks.
Thanks for wearing socks without holes.
Thanks for the very well done demo.
MXR for the first part. Boss on the solo.
Nice job! Helpful and fun to hear.
Mxr all the way
Thumb harmonics are more accurate with the CS2 and Demeter
I have CS2 and 74 script Dynacomp each have their place on my Gilmour board
MXR was the one he used. And yes, your socks are inside out.
Keep playing through compulator for clean and mxr for muff rats and fuzzes. and please wear shoes
Nice review. The CS-2 and the Dyna Comp are good but they somehow sound darker and impair guitar tone; nothing like the vintage editions that David once used. The Compulator is very transparent/quiet and comes much closer to what a compressor should really do - especially in soloing (clean or lead tones). Smart pedal choices, in your demo... Never give away your Tube-Vibe ;) Cheers.
+Mr. Archonta Thanks for those kind words :) Actually, the CS-2 is exactly the same as he used for few years, especially during the Pulse tour. Every CS-2 are the same as they were made between 81' and 86' and the one David uses is not modded ;) And it's my favorite of the three ! The CS-3 is a total crap !
The CS-2 is not transparent at all and that's what can give this Gilmourish tone exceptionally well ! The Demeter is the most transparent but too transparent for my tastes, it's optical, so it's subtle.
Pink Floydish
You have a strong point there, but I'm not sure that modding is out of the question. David owns very expensive custom Pete Cornish pedal boards; it would be difficult to assume that he was not at least tempted to improve the cheap guts of the CS-2... Also, CS-2 is definitely *not* what makes the Gilmourish tone a reality. At least, it's the last thing that contributes to its shaping. It's more to the combination of guitar/amp/cabling used and the amp's response when it is pushed. That's why everything in between has to be transparent, if not invisible. No great artist build up their personal tone by taking advantage of effect natural weaknesses, no matter what magazines or the web say ;) Nevertheless, I was so glad to know that someone on YT makes a very serious effort for this tone; very few people do that really good.
Trust me, i've read everything possible to know about this, read the whole Phil Taylor book (Gilmour's tech for 1974 now) and saw a lot of interviews of Gilmour talking about his gear (things you can't find on youtube :D ), and so i'm sure you need all his gear, his amps, his guitar and his tecs. But the compressor is absolutely the FIRST thing to shape his tone ! Without this, you could have all his gear and won't ever sound a little bit like him. Yeah, cable are VERY importants, I use Evidence Audio for all my gear and it changed my life !! :)
He uses "lots of non bypassed pedals in his gear so it shouldn't AT ALL be transparent !!
About the CS-2, sure he has Pete Cornish and all expensive gear, but the price doesn't matter, if he (or either of us) tries a 80$ pedal and find it perfect, no need to mod it ;) He has and had lot of 100$ pedals not modded at all.
I've got all new gear since this vid, i'll post a new one more "Pulse" tone :)
What you get is what you pay for. In time you will know because you have good taste in tone. Many years back I would have fully shared your opinion. Every Pete Cornish pedal has dual buffers (I/O) by default and separate custom buffers are used before and after the entire setup. As a result, the high impedance signal is transformed to low impedance signal and tone is preserved ;). Evidence cable is excellent, I observed your Monorail setup in your pedal board. I use the same cable to overpopulated boards. Far out. David uses a lot of Evidence Lyric HG, which is sadly out of production. Try to find a Custom Audio Electronics compressor (uses tube), a design of the legendary designer Bob Bradshaw. Bradshaw, Cornish and Demeter form the 'holy triad'. Last but not least: When you play solo you want the utmost transparency, because you need your compressor to sustain ONLY your decaying signal... So there shouldn't be any difference in tone characteristics between your attack and decay signal parts ;) Protect your tone...
+Azzi Guitar Time heals... :)
Dynacomp for sure but you need to dial it back a bit.
CS2. Not even close.
Mojo Lightnin Which did you like best?
Mojo Lightnin On the signature Shine notes with no bass and drums I like the MXR. But when the D & B kick in, I like the Boss's lead sound.
Funny how the CS-3 Boss are a dime a dozen and other one seems to care about them, but the old CS-2 is sought after. I have ever had offers to buy when people see them on my pedal board. I will not sell. They're also indestructible. I had a girlfriend try to smash mine in the street back around 1986 or 1987; all she managed to do was chip the paint a little. There in orange under the blue, FYI, haha
Haha, 'women be a-shoppin'!' Biyatches be cray-cray!
Shine on = mxr dyna comp, but for everything after that I would use the CS-2
You have the squash set too high on the Dyna comp for the lead part to get an accurate assessment. That knob at 3 o'clock is crazy. On the sustaining clean it works but no way on the less stuff. Needs to be at 9 or 10 o'clock. Bad use of a great pedal. If you had rolled it back would be more on par or beat the CS-2. Also Demeter is more "clean" with less coloration but other issue is there's something in the top end of your tone I'm not digging, so it's hard to assess that one as well.
MXR Dyna Comp
Scrap the lot and just get the keeley dark side pedal !!
That should say no way on the "lead" stuff
Hey, do you used standard 9V DC or ACA BOSS style power supplies which is an unregulated 9v which is like 12-15 volts DC in reality for BOSS CS-2? This case will coloring the sound
Hi,
I used standard 9V output on my Voodoo Lab 4X4 for all three pedals :)
thank you so much,
after i also read article on internet, hope you try powering with 12V on BOSS CS-2 :)
Thanks for the advice, I'll give it a try !
I thought it would burn inside the pedal using 12V, as it's supposed to be 9V.
The CS-2 requires use of the Boss ACA adaptor which puts out unregulated 12-15v DC, The Voodoo Lab manual will tell you to use the dip switch to change output to 12v for ACA Boss pedals. Here's more info:
stinkfoot.se/archives/726
Gilmour used a Dynacomp.... Maybe that's why it sounds right ;-)
Andy Betts I have read he used two Boss CS 2 pedals .
I'm not sure about Dyna Comp but now Robert Keeley has made a Darkside pedal to get all the Gillmore sounds in one box
Doc Tiberius 2 boss cs2's..... not on shine on he didn't. he did however use boss pedals in the early 80's on his solo tour as part of his Boss SCC-700 pedal board..... but definitely not on the Floyd stuff. The intro to Shine On was also played through a DI straight into the desk... As was stated in the back of the Wish You Were Here sheet music book, taken from an interview with Gilmour as they were recording the track. From "Syds theme" onward he played through his hi-watt amps and WEM cabs, utilising a colorsound powerboost, Syds theme also ugtilised a phase 90. The intro is pretty clean with little to no effects, although you do hear some rotary speaker during the latter part of the track.
not only Dyna comp. Dave also used Boss CS-2 in 80-90's and Compulator in 00's. today he uses Origin comps. there is no right or wrong, just different.
David has used the original dyna comp and his recent favorite is the Demeter.
recent is an effectrode pc-2a & origin effects cali 76 ;-)
bends are all over the place
Sandro Sadhukhan bends up either too fast or waaay too slow.
i recommend you tune up before posting dude
Is it out of tune ? Really ?
MXR By Far