By the way, can you make a review of the Bosto T1060 with their new 16K pressure pen( I believe the pen model is W09, they also claim it has 0.4mm nib retraction distance; but I'm clueless about line quality and pen pressure quality )?
Just wanted to say thank you for reviewing this drawing display! I'll be buying the 27 inch version, but I've been told the drawing experience is the same.
Great review! Thanks for testing the cursor alignment when using different grips. Reviewers don’t always mention that how grip angle can affect the cursor offset.
Have you tested how usable the touch is with the smudge tool? I mean, in some apps (foe example CSP) it's possible to configure single touch to another tool, so one can draw lines with stylus and then smudge (or erase or fill or whatever was selected as finger function) with finger. Very natural & efficient work flow.
Great review as always. I've been looking at this tablet and the 27 pro as well, but I currently have the 24 pro 4k version and as much as I like new tech these new models don't appear to be enough of an upgrade to warrant the expense. I don't want to go smaller as I am now used to the 24 inch size. What are your thoughts on that subject? I would love your opinion. Thanks again for your informative and concise reviews.
No point upgrading when your current device still works. I am saying this as someone who is still using a camera that has a rubber grip that has melted off from years of usage
Really torn on this vs the XP Pen Artist 16 Pro gen 2. I have a Huion 16 qhd that just died (Screen no longer turns on) and I need to replace it. I can get one of these for 750 or the xp pen for 450... Tough call...
I have the Xp pen artist pro 16 gen 2. Slight wobble and pen offset when tilting (you can live with it but it does actually affect how you draw because you can just draw in one single angle or “hand pose”)
Great review as always, appreciate how thorough and detailed you get in the drawing experience including the issues you only get to know about when you use something for some time (like the touch issues, something popping out from the side, all those things). Regarding the matte display sharpness, how would you compare it to similarly priced or similarly sized competitors? For example, does a Cintiq's matte display show text/details sharper, or would you say it's the same/similar? Since all etched glass is basically the same, I don't expect there to be a difference but since you didn't mention it, I wonder if perhaps there is a difference. I only have an older Cintiq 16 HD which has no etched glass, but has the matte film that is applied from the factory and since it's not 4K either, it's really hard to compare. 4K is already sharper, yet the etched glass will smudge the details and I guess only you who has experience with many different displays can give valuable insights.
Actually there are subtle difference between quality of matte glass from different companies. And it is difficult for me to remember the exact quality unless I can have a side by side comparison. And I usually do not keep review units that long. Having said that, the softness on this display is more noticeable compared to others I have tested. I have not used Wacom Cintiq for a long time so I can’t remember. But the colour noise/grain/sparkle is minimal. There is always a tradeoff with amount of texture vs image quality (grain, sharpness, colour). And unfortunately, these are very difficult to show accurately even with a video review The better matte glass currently are actually on the tablets. Eg Huion Kamvas Studio 16, iPad Pro with nano texture glass, Huawei MatePad 11.5 PaperMatte. More specifically, the Apple and Huawei versions are almost similar to the typical matte LCD monitor surfaces. After I have see Huawei’s version, which they do not charge extra for unlike Apple, I think and hope this will be used by more manufacturers in the future. The technology for good quality matte glass is already here, so it takes time to have more products use it. Personally, I probably prefer more sharpness and don’t mind some colour noise/grain
@@teohontech7141 Dang, it so hard if there's nothing one can sample haha. I live out in the middle of nowhere so there's nothing I can "test drive" regarding the Kamvas 19. I see that you've found the smaller new tablets to have better surfacing compared to these larger displays. If we ignore that for a second (since that's the obvious answer to making the displays better), would you rather prefer to have these displays have no etching and just give a choice to apply film (from factory or DIY)? Having said that, I did not too long ago read about some other glass etching techniques in some industrial contexts that offered much better sharpness and texture, so that's another "answer" to the problem, but I doubt the companies will go after that and would instead find offering a film separately as a more cost effective option.
@@teohontech7141 OK so I went for it and I'm pleasantly surprised that I personally don't notice any softness at all. At 100% scaling it's too small, so I checked all the way up to 175% which I am using and it's all very nice for me, so that's cool.
Parblo PR100 will fit, but it's still low on the table. I also forgot to mention there's a Huion ST100 stand that can prop up the pen display more vertically.
Hi Teoh. Thanks for your great reviews. I need to buy my first pen display after working professionally only using my iPad connected to my iMac with an app for over 10 years! I want to know if this is good to pair with an iPad and work in the apps I have on it? As my first and only pen display I want the best available within my budget and something that will fit on my desk. I think going down is size to the 16 pro would be a bad choice. I hope you can comment soon because I want to purchase today after spending days and days looking. Thanks.
Writing is possible but there will be noticeable latency since writing involves fast movement. No issues with mis-touch when writing because pen tip will be close to screen and hence there will be perfect palm rejection
There's writing arond 39 minutes. Seems usable at that size. But doesn't the latency depend a lot on both drawing app (its drawing engine efficiency & undo stack etc) and quite a lot on the speed of the computer in use? Teoh, what are the specs on this PC?
@@PekkaSalonen Generally speaking, the writing experience with pen displays is not as good as portable tablets. E.g. Samsung Tab S8, S9 pen latency is 2.8ms but usually much higher for drawing apps. Latency for pen displays is usually around 15ms so it's definitely more noticeable. If you have to write often and a lot, the 15ms latency will affect experience. For min 39, I'm just writing a few letters so looks and feels alright. My laptop is the Huawei Matebook D16 with Intel Core i5-12450H.
I have a Kamvas Pro 16 and one thing that bothers me about the Huion pen is that after use for a period of time, the cursor will become unaligned with the pen tip. Really annoying and if this is a problem with this model, it needs to be addressed.
Does this display look grainy/oily like with the Kamvas 16 2.5K? I liked the 16 2.5K except for the film over the display, it felt like the pixels were grainy/oily, and I just could not stand that, and sold it. If I can find a pen display which does not have this visual "noise", I'm down to buy that!
Hi Teoh, what’s your experience between this 19" pro to the 24" pro you had before? Is there any big difference in the drawing experience or perhaps the newer tech they implemented or in general the colors output?
I've only reviewed the Huion Artist Pro 24 (4K). Drawing performance and colours are quite similar. If I remember correctly, visuals with that 24 is sharper but there's slightly more colour noise/grain due to the matte surface. 19 is less sharp but has less colour noise. I probably prefer the image quality for the 24 because it's sharper. www.parkablogs.com/content/artist-review-huion-kamvas-pro-24-4k-pen-display
hello Teoh, please review drawing experience Tablet Huawei Matepad 11,5 S Papermate + M Pencil Gen 3 + App Drawing test like GoPaint, CSP and maybe app 3D Nomad Sculpt. its worth it? Thanks
Do you have any laptop where it can be powered only by one cable? I'm curious to see this. With USB4 perhaps? Plugging into the wall is a deal breaker for me. But this is the perfect size to pair with a laptop on the go! Much more so than 16" in my opinion.
Hi Mr teoh . IM considering to buy new laptop for art and animation ... did you ever do a review for budget 2 in 1 laptop like Lenovo yoga 7 2 in 1 (ryzen 5 version) ? If not, what do you think about this device for daily use as an artist and animator do you think this device can possible handle the programs like potoshop,animator smoothly thank you
Those 2-in-1 devices are usually not as good in terms of drawing performance, eg diagonal line wobble. Better ones is Surface Pro. Otherwise just get a normal laptop with a pen display
is it just me or is the responsiveness just not there? I see your pen moving but the brush strokes lag behind quite a bit. I understand the wacom is way more expensive, but is it at least a lot more responsive by comparison?
Thanks a lot for this great review! Can touch be switched off with this tablet? And I read about the issue of softness of the display due to anti glare coating. I´m very much split on this - it might be a dealbreaker, unfortunately. The Wacom Cintiq Pro 17 is prohibitively expensive, and the Huion Kamvas Pro 19 hits all the right buttons. I´m actually hoping they will release a version with less anti glare coating.
sadly u will be hoping for a long time no one will dare to do anything but etched glass these days. older 24 inch tablets use screen protectors but people complain too much now we're stuck with this
@@lesnacke Huion will have another small-mid size pen display coming soon with matte glass, and the quality of that matte glass is better (sharper) than the Kamvas Pro 19.
Too bad all these pen still sukks. They are responsive, but too light and cheap feeling. Still too slipery despite some units using paper like screen protectors. Always feel like wearing a condom. Apple pencil is the best IMO. Pencil has weight to it, the tip is rubbery and has grip so you can dig into your lines without slipping.
apple pencil weight is good but balance kinda sucks imo, too back heavy. what these guys should be doing is copy wacom pro pen 3, thin front with longer nib to not obscure the line, customisable grips and weight balance. not saying the wacom is perfect, the holder sucks ass but the whole 2 pens in a case that the competitor brands are doing just seems like a waste of space and money, like you're paying for that extra pen...
Forgot to mention there's a Huion ST100 stand (USD 50) that can prop up the pen display more vertically. shrsl.com/4l1yp
Finally! :D
By the way, can you make a review of the Bosto T1060 with their new 16K pressure pen( I believe the pen model is W09, they also claim it has 0.4mm nib retraction distance; but I'm clueless about line quality and pen pressure quality )?
I watched this vid when Teoh posted it 4 months ago but sometimes I like to rewatch his vids, informative AND relaxing, kind of like TechASMR!
Thanks for your support :-)
Your reviews are a trip, bro! You’ve nailed a format that’s super precise and hella useful for us users! Thanks a ton :)
Just wanted to say thank you for reviewing this drawing display! I'll be buying the 27 inch version, but I've been told the drawing experience is the same.
As far as I know, the only difference is 27-inch does not have the PD power passthrough for charging laptops.
Great review! Thanks for testing the cursor alignment when using different grips. Reviewers don’t always mention that how grip angle can affect the cursor offset.
OMG the review is here. I've been waiting whether you'll review this product. Time to watch.
finally!!!!! I've been waiting for you to review this pen display, thank you for making this video!
Extremely helpful in-depth review , thanks for this!
Glad it was helpful!
There's not enough talk about Huion actually finally catching up to wacom
No they are not nobody trust chibese product.
Have you tested how usable the touch is with the smudge tool? I mean, in some apps (foe example CSP) it's possible to configure single touch to another tool, so one can draw lines with stylus and then smudge (or erase or fill or whatever was selected as finger function) with finger. Very natural & efficient work flow.
Great review as usual!!!
Excellent review. Thank you.
Only reviewer i trust.
Nice review.
Great review as always. I've been looking at this tablet and the 27 pro as well, but I currently have the 24 pro 4k version and as much as I like new tech these new models don't appear to be enough of an upgrade to warrant the expense.
I don't want to go smaller as I am now used to the 24 inch size.
What are your thoughts on that subject? I would love your opinion.
Thanks again for your informative and concise reviews.
No point upgrading when your current device still works. I am saying this as someone who is still using a camera that has a rubber grip that has melted off from years of usage
Hello Teoh!! Best review as always, we artists appreciate you ❤
Any chance you’ll review the Poco pad and pen? I heard it’s only $300
Not likely for the poco pad
I also suggest the Asus Pro Art P13 or Z13 if you can thank you! @@teohontech7141
Please do review for Microsoft surface pro 11 🙏
Really torn on this vs the XP Pen Artist 16 Pro gen 2. I have a Huion 16 qhd that just died (Screen no longer turns on) and I need to replace it. I can get one of these for 750 or the xp pen for 450... Tough call...
I have the Xp pen artist pro 16 gen 2. Slight wobble and pen offset when tilting (you can live with it but it does actually affect how you draw because you can just draw in one single angle or “hand pose”)
Is there any major improvements compared to kamvas pro16 plus 4K other than the screen size?
The pen
Great review as always, appreciate how thorough and detailed you get in the drawing experience including the issues you only get to know about when you use something for some time (like the touch issues, something popping out from the side, all those things).
Regarding the matte display sharpness, how would you compare it to similarly priced or similarly sized competitors? For example, does a Cintiq's matte display show text/details sharper, or would you say it's the same/similar? Since all etched glass is basically the same, I don't expect there to be a difference but since you didn't mention it, I wonder if perhaps there is a difference. I only have an older Cintiq 16 HD which has no etched glass, but has the matte film that is applied from the factory and since it's not 4K either, it's really hard to compare. 4K is already sharper, yet the etched glass will smudge the details and I guess only you who has experience with many different displays can give valuable insights.
Actually there are subtle difference between quality of matte glass from different companies. And it is difficult for me to remember the exact quality unless I can have a side by side comparison. And I usually do not keep review units that long.
Having said that, the softness on this display is more noticeable compared to others I have tested. I have not used Wacom Cintiq for a long time so I can’t remember.
But the colour noise/grain/sparkle is minimal.
There is always a tradeoff with amount of texture vs image quality (grain, sharpness, colour). And unfortunately, these are very difficult to show accurately even with a video review
The better matte glass currently are actually on the tablets. Eg Huion Kamvas Studio 16, iPad Pro with nano texture glass, Huawei MatePad 11.5 PaperMatte.
More specifically, the Apple and Huawei versions are almost similar to the typical matte LCD monitor surfaces.
After I have see Huawei’s version, which they do not charge extra for unlike Apple, I think and hope this will be used by more manufacturers in the future. The technology for good quality matte glass is already here, so it takes time to have more products use it.
Personally, I probably prefer more sharpness and don’t mind some colour noise/grain
@@teohontech7141 Dang, it so hard if there's nothing one can sample haha. I live out in the middle of nowhere so there's nothing I can "test drive" regarding the Kamvas 19. I see that you've found the smaller new tablets to have better surfacing compared to these larger displays. If we ignore that for a second (since that's the obvious answer to making the displays better), would you rather prefer to have these displays have no etching and just give a choice to apply film (from factory or DIY)? Having said that, I did not too long ago read about some other glass etching techniques in some industrial contexts that offered much better sharpness and texture, so that's another "answer" to the problem, but I doubt the companies will go after that and would instead find offering a film separately as a more cost effective option.
@@teohontech7141 OK so I went for it and I'm pleasantly surprised that I personally don't notice any softness at all. At 100% scaling it's too small, so I checked all the way up to 175% which I am using and it's all very nice for me, so that's cool.
Thank you for the review! I suppose you tried the Parblo PR100 stand you use for smaller pen displays and it did not fit.
Parblo PR100 will fit, but it's still low on the table. I also forgot to mention there's a Huion ST100 stand that can prop up the pen display more vertically.
Please review the surface pro 11 !
Hi Teoh. Thanks for your great reviews. I need to buy my first pen display after working professionally only using my iPad connected to my iMac with an app for over 10 years! I want to know if this is good to pair with an iPad and work in the apps I have on it? As my first and only pen display I want the best available within my budget and something that will fit on my desk. I think going down is size to the 16 pro would be a bad choice. I hope you can comment soon because I want to purchase today after spending days and days looking. Thanks.
There are no pen displays that work with iPads. Apple does not support touchscreen for third party products.
Could you review the writing experience on this. How the mistouches happen when use 1 2 finger gesture
Writing is possible but there will be noticeable latency since writing involves fast movement.
No issues with mis-touch when writing because pen tip will be close to screen and hence there will be perfect palm rejection
There's writing arond 39 minutes. Seems usable at that size. But doesn't the latency depend a lot on both drawing app (its drawing engine efficiency & undo stack etc) and quite a lot on the speed of the computer in use? Teoh, what are the specs on this PC?
@@PekkaSalonen Generally speaking, the writing experience with pen displays is not as good as portable tablets. E.g. Samsung Tab S8, S9 pen latency is 2.8ms but usually much higher for drawing apps. Latency for pen displays is usually around 15ms so it's definitely more noticeable.
If you have to write often and a lot, the 15ms latency will affect experience. For min 39, I'm just writing a few letters so looks and feels alright.
My laptop is the Huawei Matebook D16 with Intel Core i5-12450H.
I have a Kamvas Pro 16 and one thing that bothers me about the Huion pen is that after use for a period of time, the cursor will become unaligned with the pen tip. Really annoying and if this is a problem with this model, it needs to be addressed.
Try adjusting your display from time to time
Does this display look grainy/oily like with the Kamvas 16 2.5K?
I liked the 16 2.5K except for the film over the display, it felt like the pixels were grainy/oily, and I just could not stand that, and sold it.
If I can find a pen display which does not have this visual "noise", I'm down to buy that!
Currently the best matte surface that does not degrade image quality is Kamvas 13 gen 3, and maybe Kamvas Studio 16 (not as much).
Can you review the redmi pad pro writing please?
Any plans for 27 version review? I wonder about their additional keyboard tray attachment, does it fit both 19 and 27 version?
Not likely to review the 27-inch. Not sure about the tray attachment. Ask Huion directly
Hi Teoh, what’s your experience between this 19" pro to the 24" pro you had before? Is there any big difference in the drawing experience or perhaps the newer tech they implemented or in general the colors output?
I've only reviewed the Huion Artist Pro 24 (4K). Drawing performance and colours are quite similar. If I remember correctly, visuals with that 24 is sharper but there's slightly more colour noise/grain due to the matte surface. 19 is less sharp but has less colour noise. I probably prefer the image quality for the 24 because it's sharper.
www.parkablogs.com/content/artist-review-huion-kamvas-pro-24-4k-pen-display
Nice review, to sad 24 version doesnt have touch screen
hello Teoh, please review drawing experience Tablet Huawei Matepad 11,5 S Papermate + M Pencil Gen 3 + App Drawing test like GoPaint, CSP and maybe app 3D Nomad Sculpt. its worth it? Thanks
How's the nib movement compareto the last pen, that works with 16 2.5 k huion? Does it moves less inside the pen?
Feels the same
Should I get the Huion 19 4k or the xp pen 19 4k?
I've not reviewed xppen 19 yet so I can't say which is better.
@@teohontech7141 What about the Huion 16 2.5k vs xp pen 16 2.5k. Which one do you think is better?
I also can't decide which one 😃 Or maybe Pro 24?🤔 (They are almost the same in price)
Do you have any laptop where it can be powered only by one cable? I'm curious to see this. With USB4 perhaps? Plugging into the wall is a deal breaker for me. But this is the perfect size to pair with a laptop on the go! Much more so than 16" in my opinion.
Wish huion take the lead now, and introduce barrel rotation to pen instead of useless 16k pressure wars
Is the parallax noticeable?
No
what software are you using in the chinatown drawing? concept? i like it, but i'm looking for something for notes as well. i dont like onenote.
Medibang, Concepts
@@teohontech7141 thought so. do you have anything you would recommend for notes\tasks\etc.?
I wish obsidian offered a better handwriting option other than excalidraw :(
Does huion have barrel roll pens?
No
Hi Mr teoh . IM considering to buy new laptop for art and animation ...
did you ever do a review for budget 2 in 1 laptop like Lenovo yoga 7 2 in 1 (ryzen 5 version) ?
If not, what do you think about this device for daily use as an artist and animator do you think this device can possible handle the programs like potoshop,animator smoothly thank you
Those 2-in-1 devices are usually not as good in terms of drawing performance, eg diagonal line wobble. Better ones is Surface Pro. Otherwise just get a normal laptop with a pen display
@@teohontech7141 okay thank you very much for your reply
is it just me or is the responsiveness just not there? I see your pen moving but the brush strokes lag behind quite a bit. I understand the wacom is way more expensive, but is it at least a lot more responsive by comparison?
That’s the typical pen display response time of 15ms. For drawing it’s still alright but not ideal for writing (fast).
It seems odd that it has 4K resolution, but is apparently still a bit soft. I guess you get what you pay for.
They used the wrong matte surface
Thanks a lot for this great review! Can touch be switched off with this tablet? And I read about the issue of softness of the display due to anti glare coating. I´m very much split on this - it might be a dealbreaker, unfortunately. The Wacom Cintiq Pro 17 is prohibitively expensive, and the Huion Kamvas Pro 19 hits all the right buttons. I´m actually hoping they will release a version with less anti glare coating.
There is an on-off switch for touch beside the power button
sadly u will be hoping for a long time no one will dare to do anything but etched glass these days. older 24 inch tablets use screen protectors but people complain too much now we're stuck with this
@@lesnacke Huion will have another small-mid size pen display coming soon with matte glass, and the quality of that matte glass is better (sharper) than the Kamvas Pro 19.
@@teohontech7141 ooh nice, can you please tell me where you heard this news?
@@teohontech7141 Saw your reply to lesnacke just now - do you happen to know what size it will be, and when it will most likely be introduced?
First!
Too bad all these pen still sukks. They are responsive, but too light and cheap feeling. Still too slipery despite some units using paper like screen protectors. Always feel like wearing a condom. Apple pencil is the best IMO. Pencil has weight to it, the tip is rubbery and has grip so you can dig into your lines without slipping.
apple pencil weight is good but balance kinda sucks imo, too back heavy. what these guys should be doing is copy wacom pro pen 3, thin front with longer nib to not obscure the line, customisable grips and weight balance. not saying the wacom is perfect, the holder sucks ass but the whole 2 pens in a case that the competitor brands are doing just seems like a waste of space and money, like you're paying for that extra pen...