“Netanyahu Has a Lot to Answer For:” Thomas Friedman on Israeli Leadership | Amanpour and Company
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- All but two of 51 Democratic senators support a measure endorsing the two-state solution as part of a national security funding package that includes military aid to Israel. Walter Isaacson spoke with New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman about these developments, and about what Friedman calls a failure of leadership by the Israeli prime minister.
Originally aired on January 25, 2024
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Trump and Netanyahu are both in the same position, they need to stay in power, otherwise they will end up in jail.
Truly, both are war criminals, guilty of crimes against humanity, ethnic cleansing, and genocide.
No. It's the trifecta - Biden too - with Hunter's laptop - that ties into him too. Hunter setting up meetings for people to meet the "Big Guy"? That makes Brandon involved in taking bribes. You also have to remember this is the elite of the elite class. The chances of any of these people going to jail are slim. Remember - They may hate Trump but would they really want to send someone to jail that would create a precedent for something they may do one day? Also - Don't be surprised if Netanyahu is granted in the asylum here in the US and his room board and lots of security are funded by us - the American taxpayers!
Agree
I didn’t vote for trump but I voted for geno cide Biden. Trump didn’t kill innocent people both in Palestine, Yemen, Iraq, Syria and Ukraine.
Netanyahu actually is guilty.
So sick of all the one sided concern for Israel. Friedman doesn't know what actually happened on Oct.7th. What about the rapes and murders Isreal committed on Palestinian people. What about the Israelis that the army killed on October 7th. Plus Hamas has given statements. But they are not reported.
your words are wise
If Iran has “proxies” not just allies, why don’t you say the same about the U.S., proxies not allies!
He is partially blind
Thomas Friedman is a Shill, he's also jewish so his opinion means nothing. 👎
Paid for with $$$ and turn blind
B/c Iran’s proxies rape women and kidnap children and attack international shipping. U.S. proxies fight back in self defense
The word proxies usually refers to non state actors like Hamas and Hezbollah. Allies are typically sovereign countries. So if US uses a non state actor, that would also be called proxies
Cease-Funding Now.
AIPAC should be required to register under FARA.
Many of those who claimed, and were perceived to be, "a friend of Israel" over the past 20 years, only ended up making the situation worse for Israel, because they naively equated support of Israel with support of Netanyahu, rather than any sort of engineered path to peace. And that path would have precluded the rapid expansion of settlements, and hopefully their dismantling. But instead, we got ever greater resentment of Israel by Palestinians, and the stupidest of "manifest destiny" from settlers.
Everywhere I look on this continent, I see "NIMBY-ism". Citizens reject this or that being near their home, be it a manufacturing facility, a homeless shelter, a nuclear facility, a highway, a supervised injection site, or any of a host of other things. Heck, in my city, Chinese residents approached city hall to block building a funeral home too close to their neighbourhood, because it would bring "bad luck". So why aren't ordinary Gazans absolutely fuming and livid that Hamas has a) invited this dreadful response from Israel by their actions on Oct. 7, and b) situated their actions and facilities where high civilian casualties would be an expected and automatic outcome of the anticipated Israeli response? Hamas will not be "destroyed" with bombs and arrests. It will be destroyed by Gazans recognizing that only misery will follow if Hamas continues to have any power whatsoever. Bombings just serve to entrench a naive view that Hamas is Gaza's "defender".
rape is not resistance
@@markhammer643 ...and Israel made Hamas more powerful by continuing to steal land in the west bank to build settlements for religious fanatics so that the fanatics would support a right wing goverment led by Netanyahu.
This horrific genocide by the IDF will create more enemies against Israel than the horrific attack by Hamas will hurt Hamas.
What power to ordinary residents of the open prison called Gaza have to take action against anyone, Hamas or Israel?
@@billaveda6408 In your worldview People from Poland, from Russia, from Brooklyn New York somehow have a more legitimate claim to Palestine than the indigenous Palestinians who have been living there continuously for thousands of years and yet you blame them for being angry that you stole their country in 1948! Before 1948, was there a state or country called Israel ? Israel itself what does it mean ? It means the descendants of the 12 children of Yacoob, who is known as Israel. While the children of Israel were enslaved in Egypt, that land was occupied by its original inhabitants, the cananites whose blood modern day Palestinians still carry in their veins. Palestinians didn’t drop from the sky, they did not immigrate to Palestine from Saudi Arabia or some other Arab country , Palestine is their historical home. That is not your case, many of you immigrated to Palestine from Europe, especially Eastern Europe and North America. Before Netanyahu all the leaders of Israel were born outside of it! Netanyahu himself, Netanyahu isn’t his real last name, he is the son of a polish man, Benzion Mileikowsky. North America originally belongs to Native Americans, so should everyone leave America and give it back to Native Americans who owned it thousands of years ago? Are European Russian or Polish Je..ws really the descendants of these 12 tribes? And even if you were, that doesn’t give you the right to kick people of their land and then use the Bible to justify your theft of Palestinian land, you destroyed more than 500 Palestinian villages, massacred countless thousands of them in order to create your country. That is morally wrong, a people chosen by God would not engage in such immorality and criminality.
@@billaveda6408 weaponized starvation, mass displacement, mass incarceration, indiscriminate bombing, desecration of cemeteries (all publicly recorded facts easily verifiable by Israeli news outlets, including haaretz, ynet, jerusalem post) is not lawful, moral or what a "democratic country" does. world views of israel have shifted to cataclysmic lows. germany had defenders in america during the 1930s, you are defending israel in the 2020s and there will be many after you who do the same long after this catastrophe reaches its conclusion.
Blaming Netanyahu is terribly convenient for Israel’s apologists. But Israel has a unity government. Blaming Netanyahu is facile and disingenuous. The Israeli public, and the Israeli lobby in the US, are fully on board with what the Israeli government is doing. You can’t have it both ways.
At this point I really think AIPAC should be barred from lobbying in the US, and we should reduce aid, tying what we do send to policy objectives
Your moronic theory can also be applied to the Palestinians and Hamas, who are nothing but full throated Islamo-Nazis
True! Not just Bibi...
Tom Friedman talking about accountability? Hilarious. He's technically right about Bibi, but only technically. ICJ comin' in hot?
Wasn’t he the guy that pushed for Iraq war, which was actively encouraged by Israel.
@@ln6593yes, he’s the one who said “suck on this” meaning the invasion of Iraq is a message to the mid east that the U.S. is the boss.
@@ln6593And now actively pushing for the Iran war .
All of it on behalf of Israel .
He should retire to his house in the promised land .
Friedman bobble head joke.
Mr Friedman has no clue what he is talking about his radical views are not supported by any Israelis that are familiar with the facts on the ground in the past 50 years. Not one Israelis whether left or right supports the views oof the radical Thomas Friedman Jew hater!
When he said no one knows what is going on in the ground, I guess he has not seen the Videos, it is horrifying
But we only seeing a percentage is what he implemented.
@@explorer0213 believe me I have seen enough and heard enough over 1 million Refugees in a small few acres of land, 25,000 killed in 3 months, 70,000 injured, amputated, thousands running with empty bowls Starving, hospitals , refugee camps bombed, IDF soldiers executing civilians, newborn babies Incubators stopped working
You mean war is supposed to a be nice and rosy, like a party? Your generation must live on a virtual reality-created planet.
The blind are blinded by Hubris - unless they can’t see.
For sure. He’s so brainwashed that he thinks he’s like the only clear minded person in the world and he’s just an IDF outlier.
One correction. There's no evidence that rape was part of Hamas' plan. I can't think of why they would do it, what benefit for Palestine would that bring? And the family of a victim who the NYT said was raped on Oct 7 asked them to retract that because there's no evidence. Look more into the case of Gal Abdush. Rape almost certainly happened on October 7th and I condemn all rapists and hope for a full independent investigation in which all perpetrators are brought to justice. Saying that Hamas intentionally raped people is excuse for genocide.
You think Hamas has your values. Westerners are a deluded as the people in the middle east.
There's plenty of evidence for genocide on the other side.
Not true, they were told to desecrate and destroy as much as they can in the orders/plans that were captures on the the 10-7 Hamas dead.
Israel accusations are a confession
There is indisuputable evidence of rape. You are a rape-denialist. Shameful .
In this chaotic world, be a Normal Finkelstein or Gordon Levy. Don't be a Dershowitz or a Netanyahu.
I certainly would not want to be suspected pedophile and Epstien associate, Alan Dershowitz.
@@AstraStone-ws4bw Ooo, a little Netanyahu here.
truth not propaganda 🙋🏽♂️
finkelstein? no. that definitely won't help.
All of these people are counterproductive.
And now the IDF have admitted that they killed hundreds of Israelis on October 7th. They have also said that a formal investigation of what happened wouldn't be morally sound. In other words, yes we killed our own people but don't look into that because it would make us sad.
liar
@@user-iz2tq3dx5d
Why deny?
Nonsense! idf didn’t admit! You took a part of a news and add your opinion and some lies - boom! Another propaganda against Israel.
@@user-iz2tq3dx5d - yeah ....Israel LIES! It's 1st Nature to them.
Do you have a link for that info? Much appreciated--I haven't seen it.
Israel had become quite comfortable keeping about 3 million human beings as wards of the State of Israel who do not have the inherent rights set forth in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
We can tally the outrages of all concerned over the last decades, but the net status is not morally good.
For three generations Israelis have served in the armed forces which enforce a dominance of a people with next to no accountability..
Over three generations Israel has become like the Spartans where oppression of Helots was integral to the culture.
And why this criminals so obsessed with Iran😂 US army has committed crime against humanity yet the are cryz and stupid with Iran
How many of the Arab counties from Morocco to Iraq comply with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights? None.
From the river to the sea is the mantra of Israel's right wing Likud party. It was co-opted by Hamas, and the reason Hamas was born in the first place. It calls for the Israel to be free, from the river to the sea, so Hamas was formed to directly counter that ideology, and the reason they openly call for Israel's annihilation. The only difference is the Israeli version is tongue in cheek, and Hamas is open about it. And while I won't say there was no rape, Israel has been caught in many lies since 10.07, including bombing women and children. Many hostages were on Israeli TV and said they saw no rape. There was one woman, and somehow now there's more. So again, not refuting it, but it's very suspicious and needs investigating. If there was, I still chalk it up to imprisoning Gaza for half a century and killing Palestinians at will for 75 years, as well as the many violations of the cease fire since 2008 that Israel committed. That's not an excuse, but I can understand the motivation. You cannot keep your boot on the neck of an entire people for 75 years without driving some of them to unspeakable acts of violence and terror.
Whatever you call it, it has been the policy of the Palestinians since 1947/8. Regarding the released hostages, they can't say publicly what they saw, especially when they have friends & relatives still being held hostage because Hamas have told them their loved ones will be killed. It will take many years for the truth of how they were treated when they were taken and while they were held. Furthermore, Hamas may never release the hostages they have raped or mistreated. They will be killed so they won't be able to testify. And of course, Hamas will say Israel killed them in the military operation to release them.
The Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank have rejected a two State solution repeatedly since 1947/8 and chose to turn the Gaza strip into an underground military installation from which to bombard Israeli civilians in their homes with tens of thousands of missiles on a weekly basis. They have bee allowed to wok in Israel, many live in Israel and prosper as doctors, surgeons etc so Israel is not an apartheid. It would be if he Palestinians were in control though! If Israel weren't Policing the West Bank, it would also be a military base that looks down on Israeli cities which would also be attacked constantly. There will be no peace, no solution until the Palestinians accept Jews have a right to live in the area, whether a one state or a two State system. They would all be better off living together in one State with fully imposed anti racist laws like we have in Europe. Voting rights? Yes but a system of power sharing perhaps like N Ireland but the international community cannot allow the Palestinians to take control and discriminate against the Jews.
@@davidgoddard5532 From the River to the Sea is as old as 1947 because that's when Zionists like Nuttyahoo's dad & grandad came up with the slogan. And don't believe everything you read in the papers about hostages or that all Palestinians are terrorists. Israel has struggled to get witnesses to "confirm" their allegations, and a few have changed their story and said they were pressured by the government. Now they're down to 1 person with no forensic evidence. Did she not go to the doctor when she was freed? Israel has been caught in so many lies it's nose is touching Italy. They actually offer no evidence and expect everyone to keep taking them at their word. There's one guy (Jeffrey Gettleman) at the NY Times that prints these stories, and he's telling the story the NY Times wants told. Israeli news only reports the claim, and they're quick to say it cannot be confirmed. Everyone else is in US media are re-writing what Gettleman claims. When you see videos from Israeli TV News with hostages themselves telling a different story you need to admit that, at the very least, Israel is not being totally honest. I'm not defending Hamas, but they are two peas in the same pod. The sooner you find that out the closer to the truth you get. And no terrorist nation has a right to exist. The Israel of the past 4 months is having a very hard time justifying their existence to the rest of the world right now. That's why we are on the verge of WWIII.
@@davidgoddard5532 You got that backwards. That was the Zionist slogan invented when Israel was drumming up support for attacking Palestine even before the 40's. Palestinians had no need for the slogan since it was already their land. The PLO first co-opted the phrase in the 60's, using it to call for the return of a free Palestine state. The slogan is from the Zionists of Nuttyahoo's dad & grandad's generation as soon as they started plotting how they could take over the land they felt they had a blood-right to. The 2nd bit was changed to Palestinians will be free.
And the horrors of the hostages are published by one journalist, Jeffrey Gettleman of the NY Times. All the other stories you read are using his as their source. Israeli TV news has done pieces on the freed hostages, and they tell a different story. Israeli media has run the accusations, but they are all quick to say there is no evidence and the claims cannot be confirmed. What has been confirmed is Israel firing on their own people on 10.07, Israel bombing hospitals without finding these terror bases underneath except one of their own caches, as well as firing on hostages waiving a white flag and the killing of over 100 journalists, some of them American born. What the facts the rest of the world are going by are that Israel attacked a defenseless nation in 1948, and have been trying to exterminate the people of that nation ever since.
Israel and Netanyahu never wanted a real peace with the Palestinians. Don’t say this is also the Palestinians fault because as long as there is occupation and injustice for Palestinians, Israel is the only one to be blamed for all of this!!
As Mao said "Political power comes out of the end of a gun" Hamas kills 200 people, Israel kills 25,000 and destroys their homes. Israel has been too overwhelmingly strong for too long.
100% no matter what hamas does or is accused of doing!
the Palestinians as you call them were created in 1964 when Israel was within the armistice line of he 1948 war. Jordan was occupying the Judean hills and Egypt was occupying the Gaza Strip. And still the Gazans would attack Israel causing the war in 1956. In 1967 Israel reclaimed the lost territories and the occupation ended.
@@1czechit1You are delusional.
Don't blame Israel, blame Zionism! Zionism binds a religion and the actions and fortunes of a nation at the hip. Anyone who even criticizes Netanyahu is smeared as an anti-Semite. It makes as much sense as emperor worship and it isn't a Jewish invention, it was invented by Christian Zionists centuries before they transmitted it through cynical Jewish atheists. We all know what a bankrupt ideal it is and anyone wishing safety for Jews around the world can clearly see that it isn't working.
Not an Arab or Palestinian but has Tom seen an independent report of the account of October 7th attack or just repeating what Isreal media is saying and what is worst, casualties In October 7th or 30000 deaths and 50000 injured and starvation of entire population
Mr. Friedman asked the question why no one is asking Sinwar the hard questions. Well, because there is no Western Media allowed in Gaza by the order of Israel. Friedman as a journalist should be outraged that the Western Media is happy to cover the Israeli side while denied by one side of the conflict to cover the other side. I think the Western media should stop covering the Israeli side until they are allowed in Gaza.
@user-oi6fk7bs1t It's far worse. Tom Friedman claims to want to know why Hamas did things on Oct 7th, like alleged "mass rape", etc. Anyone claiming to be a Middle East expert -- would know that Hamas leadership a few days ago released their official written statement refuting many lies Israel repeats over & over (including refuting the lies about "mass rape", "babies in ovens", etc.). So Hamas answered Friedman's questions -- but he either pretends to not know about their report, or he deceivingly suppresses it.
cause US government is number criminal and terrorist supporter
True
Friedman is one of those guys who can't look at this without bias. He's not willing to call genocide for what it is. He's not willing to call out the United States for supporting and enabling it.
Except there is no free press in Gaza allowed clown, prior to war and even after… it’s because Isis like jihadists govern Gaza, and it’s why Gazans aren’t allowed to protest or say one thing bad about Hamas - or its 🔪💀
"From the River,to the Sea", was first spoken by Menachem Begin,leader and PM of the Likud party,back in the '70s.
Menachem Begin desired to get 1/2 Lebanon because it knew Israel would be a desert nation and the River in Lebanon would go a long way. It has always been the plan to take over more and more land.
And last spoken by NUT-ENYAHOO a few days ago
You do know that Israeli territory by international law was from Jordan (not the river) to the Sea. And it was the British who breached the Mandate by giving 70% of the land to be made into a Jewish state to a foreign Arab who threatened war with Syria in 1922.
Where do you get that from? Menahem Begin's party called for the British to honor the Mandate that gave the Jews what is today Israel and Jordan (San Remo Conference) His party was legalistic. As for Israel, it is green and not a desert nation. That is why the armistice line of 1949 is called the green line. @@tomdofsnj
E essa mentira é repetida até hoje, porque Israel não quer paz com ninguém, é como um vizinho encrenqueiro e no final se dá mal!
Are the hostages even alive at this point? With all the bombing they could be all gone by now. Very sad situation.
The hostges aren't even a rounding error in the number of innocent Gaza residents dead, wounded, made homeless.
It’s all about Re traumatizing Israelis about the European genocide and now upping the spiritual alchemy with some but kick of the truest recent atrocity while a blackout continues with regard to the extent of the genocide in Palestine. Absolutely the Israeli’s must be kept stupid and in the dark so keep feeding them that Oct 7 was in a vacuum and not an eye for an eye of atrocities already visited upon Palestinians. It sure would help
Israeli’s get over Oct 7and the Holocaust of they were given a chance to heal in health and
Life with who is alive rather than continue vendetta killings out of Nuremberg or in Gaza. It’s not going to going to work. You know that. It’s only about guns and profits.
You know that.
@@jjhporI suppose you would have applaud if any member of your family would become a hostage from a ruthless terrorist organization.
I’m on the right side of history.
If you’re supporting Palestine, you’re also on the right side of history.
Remember that. The history will never ever forget those who committed genocide.
Free Palestine 😢
Where you are when milhons of Muslims were killed in Sudan? Sorry but sounds hypocrisy
For some people, words still matter. Loss of life is tragic but it is not a “genocide” - if Hamas surrenders and gives back the hostages today, the war ends.
That is NOT a genocide no matter how convenient that term feels for the Oct 7 ignoring crowd.
@@Owenalpe according literature this conflict is not genocide. Its one percent death toll. Inexist even intention. Israel provides free all gaza infrastructure. Palestinians can move and work and afford medical treatment inside Israel. Many Palestinians were saved by israelians doctors. Israel donated one million doses covid vaccines witch avoided humanitarian catastrophe in gaza. Unfortunately people just want to hate and believe just one side history, the wrong one. Again the peace and love west never complained and protested about huge genocides against Muslims in Sudan, Yemen and Syria. Westerns completely unaware or don't care or both ,about quemical weapons atacks against Muslims in Kurdistan
Owenalpe,
The entire world is calling it genocide, clearly you have an affinity for denial and Ok the practice so long as it's not you. Wake up, no more genocide!!!
Those people defending Israel with semantics never answer the question of ethnic cleansing and the murder of innocent women and children as crimes against humanity. I'm not a lawyer but what war crimes that include displacement of millions of people, starvation of millions of people, and the disregard for the lives of innocent civilians... at what point and quantifiable war crime acts reach the definition of "genocide"? Does uber ethnic cleansing at the minimum qualify as genocide? Is 10,000, 20,000, or 30,000 murders inadequate to declare a genocide? Israeli propaganda releasing "secret" memos explaining their war crimes to avoid civilian deaths lacks credibility on the face of the results witnessed by the eyes of the world. Israel's zionist gentrification of an entire region is uber ethnic cleansing realistically resulting in a genocide. FULL STOP
America MUST NOT be allowed to be a broker of peace for this conflict. America supports Israel and thus is not neutral. I support China or even Russia to come up with a deal.
None of the above. It should be a group put together by the UN that is clearly not pushing an agenda, as are the three in your coment.
Yeah, that is not going to happen.
Because China and Russia are both neutral..........
Russia isn't qualified to broker peace between anyone. Putin is friends with Netanyahu.
Mr. Friedman, you also forgot the huge mistake that the USA did by dismantling Iraq which kept Iran on its toes for so many years and then leaving a vacuum that was filled by Iran.
Why is Iran a threat to Middel East security they have not attacked any nation in history and if you want to bring proxies into the frame well the Iraelis and the US are experts in that field of warfare
Iran is a threat because Israel cannot control them .
So they are working hard to get their big brother US to do their dirty work for them .
People like TF are out there manufacturing consent .
The problem is deeper than Netanyahu.
The Washington Post spoke to six families across Gaza about their daily struggle for food. Ninety-three percent of people there face “crisis levels of hunger,” according to a report published in late December by a U.N.-backed international consortium. More than half a million people - a quarter of the enclave’s blockaded and bombarded population - face “catastrophic hunger and starvation,” the report said.
But Mr Friedman still cannot judge the proportionality of Israeli actions in Gaza even in the face of the humanitarian crisis unfolding there and his own condemnatory assessment of both Netanyahu and his cabinet. A cowardly evasion of the obvious.
I stopped getting the New York Times because of this.
Thomas Friedman must explain why an American Jewish writer couldn't learn from the American experience that people are equal under the law?
If Two-State solution did not work in America, Back & White, why shouldn't Jews and non-Jews live equally under same laws in Israel?
Because Arabs and especially Muslims believe they need to be superior to the dhimmis. Stop pretending you don't know that or spreading taqiyyah. In Israel everyone has the same rights and the Arab minority would never agree to be led by governments as corrupt as the PA or as violent as Hamas.
Because the Palestinians will never accept living in a theocracy and the Israelis will never give up a Jewish state.
we have football to unite us they got a millennium of hate
They do, you taqiyyah -spewing liar. The rights they lack in the West Bank or Gaza are the decision of their own leaders. Blacks in America didn't live in separate states governed by their own leaders that way.. There is no end to the ignorance and lies told by the Palestinian cause.
@@alexanderclaylavin
The belief that historical animosity could permeate through generations is troubling.
There is no sure way to ensure that your kids would harbor your feelings towards others. In many instances new generations aspire to new heights than their ancestors.
The war in Gaza cannot be characterized as "religious". I rather attribute the conflict to tribal bullying, a few group of fanatic folks control large groups of ill-informed followers.
Mr. Friedman just skips the basic fact of Israel's brutal occupation.
It's not a brutal occuption to put criminal murdering terrorists in jail or time-out.
There would be no need for anything except that IN WRITING Hamas and Palestinians have said clearly they aim to kill all Jews and take over all of Israel - not statehood, not peace, not tolerance. To turn the one free democracy in the Middle East that has contributed hugely and positively to the world in Iraq and ISIS. Are you daft or what?
he probably likes it
I wonder who was own your land before you? How your country concerned? Still? Took others areas and resources? Compares to your country Israel gave ‘ Palestine’ her lands just to make peace! What they did?? Killed Jews! Again and again. Hamas and Palestines are the same, they have nothing in their mind besides killing!!! They could live in happily ever after! But NO her joy is distraction and war. Palestines we’re kicked away from every country they were! Even arbs country don’t want them. Egypt is less then 10 meter from them but they insist not to let them in. Why?? Cause they all wish to bring war!
The occupation that ended unilaterally 20 years ago?
@@DigiDriftZone It never ended. Israel controls Gaza from the outside, they never allowed the construction of any airport or seaport. They control everything that goes in or out, water, electricity, it's an occupation.
That must have been hard for Friedman to admit.
I thought the same.
What would be hard for Friedman to admit exactly?
Yeah given that his entire career was about getting us to this moment.
Do not fool yourself, Biden perfectly knows. And Friedman knows NOBODY really intends 2 state solution. All that talk just to cover up Biden's crime, not Natanyahu.
@@1czechit1 He spoke quite often in line with Bibi: he was the biggest of the "intellectuals" on the left to cheer for the Iraq War just as Bibi wanted. He also had lukewarm support for the Iran nuclear deal, calling it the "best bad deal." He has in a number of ways talked in sync with Israeli policymakers over the years, especially with regards to iran, and even here he downplays the impact of the Anti Iran policies some of which he himself was for. Iran needed the nuclear deal to grow economically; for as long as they were allowed to gain economically from the nuclear deal, they would have treaded carefully in their anti US and anti Israeli efforts; and they would have protected their Western trade relations. The end of the nuclear deal freed Iran's hands; they had nothing to lose from their newly hardened anti US/Israel stance. They understandably also wanted to punish the US and Israel for having Iran negotiate for two years and then make them walk away empty handed despite Iran's complying fully with the deal. The loss of the deal brought back the hardliners to power in Iran. That too was predicted. Rememeber, the deal was front-ended: Iran had to make the larger concessions upfront before benefits kicked in year later. Iran's animosity toward Israel grew more fierce because they know Israel's number (one) goal is get the US attack Iran rather than make a deal with and (two) to economically stifle Iran in the meantime.
Imagine living in a country that is shrinking. Where every day there is someone kicking you out of your home or forcing you to flee out of fear. I wonder who can help the Israelis understand what that’s like? 🤔
It’s amazing that Tom Friedman is taken seriously as a big thinker.
Is that a joke?
You are seriously misinformed.
You think Palestians want a state?
Well, they got one called Gaza.
The first thing they did was destroy everything productive that Israel left them.
Then they elected Hamas - 18 years so, so all those kids of brainwasted by Hamas terrorists.
Then they murdered their Palestinian opposition.
Then they went on to fire rockets every day at Israel, paid for with aid money from the UN and other countries.
Then they broke through and attempted a genocide. murdered 1200 people and took 230 hostage..
Then they said they would do it again and again and again - forever until they destroyed Israel and killed all the Jews.
How much frickin clearer can it be?
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After the number of massacres Israel has inflicted on Palestinians since 1948, and after the reveal of IDF killing Israeli civilians, how can Friedman complain about what Hamas did? Aside from Friedman’s lies about rapes, what did Hamas do on 10/7 that Israel doesn’t do every day in Palestine???
South Africa articulated Israeli crimes very well and the Israeli rebuttal was simply a bunch of nonsense lies.
What South Africa did was political posturing! The Palestinian issues are now being used for political gains elsewhere. ANC is looking for votes by such posturings. The Leftists in Europe are also gaining support through Free Palestine movement, yet the real issue in the Middle East looks far from being better for either party.
and if this so-called posturing saves the lives of innocent people, then we should be all for it@@boitumelotshwenyego6922
Free Palestine ❤🎉💯✊️
there never ws a Palestine.
@@1czechit1Wow you are ignorant. There were passports and money with the word Palestine stamped on them.
And that money said "Palestina Land of Israel" There was also the Palestine philharmonics, a Jewish orchestra. There was a Palestine Post, a Jewish newspaper. There was the British Mandate for Palestine that was established at San Remo Conference to reconstitute a Jewish state. And when the French delicate asked the British delegate "what is going to be the borders of "Palestine"? The British presented a map of the Jewish biblical kingdom and said "From Dan to Beersheba" On the other side, the Arabs in 1918 chanted “From Turkey to Gaza, Palestine Does Not Exist!” In In 1936, The Arab Higher Committee's general secretary Awni Abd al-Hadi, testified at the Peel Commission, “There is no such country as Palestine. ‘Palestine’ is a term the Zionists invented. There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria. ‘Palestine’ is alien to us.” So again, there is no Palestine. There was a temporary Trusteeship Calle the British Mandate for Palestine to establish a Jewish state. When that state got independence it called itself Israel. Its borders were those of the British Mandate by the Uti Possidetis Juris principle. Israel was attacked in 1948 by Arab countries and it lost territories to the invaders which were reclaimed in 1967 and the occupation ended. @@RudeBoy.44MAG
@@1czechit1 Interesting, Israel is a created state. Palestinians were there. They had homes within communities. They called themselves Palestinians and still do. Nonetheless, Israel was created as a Jewish state and many Palestinians were evicted. Israel isn’t going anywhere and neither are Palestinians. Time for Israel to end the occupation of land that Jews were always welcome to live on before the creation of Israel.
@@1czechit1 UA-cam censored my response. What a joke lol Still though, you won’t stop the movement 🍉
Good morning Friedman! What about Israel's right to be an occupying colonial settler???
There’s only one problem there Israel !
Netanyahu’s acts of genocide vis a vis US unconditional support for Israel.
É isso é preocupante, porque Netanyahu faz essas atrocidades com o Apoio dos EUA.
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Everyday I hear in media, but nothing happen, they debate and debate until now, netanyahu killed and killed in gaza
An occupier can never have peace and security.
Friedman saying water is wet is suspicious.
Isn't this the guy that supported the Iraq war and told Iraqis to "suck on that"?
Let’s ask a representative of the permanent pundit class what they think.
Killed 30000 in 100 days , many died burried under rebels , thousands of people disabled , amputaled , displaced, homeless , moneyless, workless.
Hospitals, schools, universities , shelters, mosques, cultural center , roads, water reservoir destroyed .
Drinking water cut off, electricity cut off, food supplies cutoff.
Famine and hunger , starvation, diseases , lack of sanitation .
Thousands of small children disabled snd orphaned.
Wet in rain, shivering in cold winter.
This is beyond belief what has been happening for last 3 monthes and still no end in sight and continuing .
And now the U.S. is suspending ANWRA aid to millions of slaughtered and starving Palestinians. Sick,
the devastation is eerily similar to the devastation and destruction that the Ukrainians have suffered and for similar reasons. Nobody came to their aid, but people sent them weapons and for years those weapons in limited supply made their way into Ukraine to the anger of Putin who thinks he owns Ukraine. Iran and others have pumped weapons into Gaza for so many years and yet once attacked, few have really stepped in to defend Gaza, and Israel has them where they want them. The moral of the story is to sue for peace and not to attack someone more powerful than you. This one was different though because Hamas and Gaza brutally attacked Israel unlike Ukraine which did nothing to deserve attack.
Amanpour a journalist? Her previous interviews were despicable. Ignored historical context of the occupation entirely.
She is a good journalist in contrast to journalists who are lobbying Israel
Just putting in jail and he's parlament you just have to be a human being to know that he's cometing genocide in Gaza
Do you sense 28,000 murdered souls in Thomas’ voice?
This attack was as much of a surprise to Israel as 9/11 was a surprise to the dancing Israelis on 9/11….
So when was the last time he was right about anything?
Does Friedman plan to connect Gaza And the West Bank with a highway through Israel?
I don't see Israel on the map in 20 years , simply numbers and math don't add up .
Can you explain? Im not challenging your statement...just wanting clarity
@@akelakennedy Simply colonial occupation won't last long , minority can't rule over the migority for even and in twenty years Jews will be minorities in Palestine . One more thing is the Israeli state exists just because the USA support and West and in 20 years I think we gonna have major players other than the USA . What I believe will happen is one state " Palestine" and the Jews can live as a minority or simply leave where you came from if you don't like it knowing all of them have double citizenship somewhere else . This is my take and of course I could be wrong . Cheer's
Ariel Sharon was labelled rightly "the Butcher of Beirut", he was also a pretty ghastly Israeli PM. We saw it and the US has continued since to support criminal after butcher after genocider. That is the fact.
If the right wing, complicit Friedman changes his tune, you can imagine how horrific the GENOCIDE is.
So we have two countries being attacked, Ukraine and Israel. Ukraine has suffered greater losses than Israel. Take that however you want, I really don't care. But the interesting thing is this, Israel have been furnished with all sorts of offensive weaponry, whereas Ukraine have only been supplied with defensive weapons. Surely something is amiss here
Russia isn't killing kids "the chosen ones" are
Yeah. OK.😂
So does the US government including GenoJoe, Blinker, Kirby, and Austin
Two most despicable “journalists”
You just can't say the word genocide
Until everybody is able to say the word you will just be denying it
Come on where is the investigative journalism- “ from the river to the sea “ is part of the Likud charter and that has nothing to do with the extreme right wing
Mr Friedman
As an outside observer I believe the Palestinian will be able to form a government BUT the main issue in all these issues is when will they see light of a state whether a two state or a single state
As for the narrative that Hamas does not recognize Israel is rubbish and by the same token most in the Israeli governments over the last 75 years did not accept the reality of the existence of a Palestinian people but the western leaders never said a thing about it
This issue can be resolved but it requires honesty from all sides but specially the Israeli side
Why always blaming Iran? More WMDs there do you think? Obvious where Friedman stands, with the Cheneys & Rumsfelds of US foreign policy
Friedman shows genuine emotional engagement when he talks about the victims of the October 7th attack, 'They actually raped people'. When it comes to Palestinians actually being buried alive, around half of them Children, he displays remarkable emotional detachment. That is the difference between American commentators and those from elsewhere in the world.
He is a Jewish Zionist
This is called war. After the atrocities from Oct 7th, Palestinians just asked for.
Misleads on the victims’ situation - propoganda lies and misinformation has been debunked but he perpétuâtes generalized exaggeration
IDF killed vast numbers
Only one child listed dead if one reported statement is correct
No evidence of rape or décapitations
Fabrications cooked up to launch Netanyahu’s long known plan of escalating a war to expand rather than seek genuinely security and fairness
One state everybody equal Jews and Palestinians - start off with self governing federal states and work towards goal of one state with everybody free and equal no apartheid.
You need to read some history.
Won’t work cos the Arabs will not trust the likes of Netanyahu
One non-Jewish state with full citizenship and equal rights for all, including of course the right for Palestinians to return from around the world, is the only possible human solution for those who want to live in peace, if that is GOD'S will.
Notice I said "human solution" because the Divine solution might be other than that, but whatever it is, it won't be a solution that ends well for Zionist Israel. Her sins and crimes against humanity are too much, and she will be brought to justice and appropriately Recompensed for what she has done to the Palestinians.
I’ll give him another chance now and watch this, but based on a previous interview on this platform, I’m shocked at how little Thomas Friedman knows since his days from publishing “From Beirut to Jerusalem“, which I read twice. Sad to see. In retrospect, better book is David Shipler’s “Arab and Jew, wounded spirits in the promised land“
@DrTomMD You're right. Tom Friedman claims to want to know why Hamas did things on Oct 7th, like alleged "mass rape", etc. Anyone with a reputation as a Middle East expert -- would know that Hamas leadership a few days ago released their official written statement refuting many lies Israel repeats over & over (including refuting the lies about "mass rape", "babies in ovens", etc.). They answered Friedman's questions -- but he either pretends to not know about this report, or he's deceivingly ignoring it.
For interviews, I find Al Jazeera has some of the best minds on this topic. Democracy Now too.
What audience did Freeman is addressing. Israel and Western government blame Hamas rest including majority of Western public blame Israel occupation and disproportionate response.
We all have a lot to answer for before God.
Benjamin Netanyahu represent Israewl and his people. He was elected over and over for that last 15 years. I don’t know why people try to put it all on PN ?
Thomas Friedman gives Judas Iscariot a good name.
Actions do tell the intentions of genocide. Proof of documents do not hold water.
Two points here:
One about the tunnels being extended next to hospitals and urban area. Those tunnels at one point were used to transport goods around Gaza. The tunnels were built as a reaction to the Israeli rules for limiting calories for the people of Gaza. To say how do Israelis army will react to having those tunnels next to primary activity outlets in the city. Where are they suppose to build them since Gaza is limited in space? As a matter of fact, ex prime minister Barak claimed that the tunnels built next to the hospitals were constructed by Israel army in the past. The second point is
Again and Again repeating the baseless rape that was dismissed a long time ago. Freedman wants to justify the atrocities committed by the Israeli army.
Concerning Iran and its nuclear power, I would be more concerned about the Israel weapons and how it’s being used during this atrocity more than any army including Iran and Korea.
Why we discuss Palestinian state as an option. This should have been implemented UN endorsed Palestinian state but here we are 75 years later still discussing
Israel would never permit it.
What we really need is one united federation of planet earth.
u can go to russia or china or iran...so why u crying ?
StarTrek wins again
Corruption would find way in.
Thank-you Thomas, Walter and your good advice for President Biden
Friedman supported the 2003 unprovoked illegal invasion of Iraq.
So, where is the red line? How long before any pressure is effective?
Talk about 15 years siege? Talk about this too
Friedman skillfully vellifies Natanyahu depicting he is the only problem knowing his days are numbered so that the next Israeli gov is off the hook. The problem in not Natanyahu, it's that 44% of Israelis want to colonize gaza and 99% want to colonize west bank. A Palestine state has to be pried out of their hands either by war or by global peaceful boycott untill they realize occupation is too expensive to maintain!!
Tik Tok, again?
What about the palestiniansnlost of life .the open air prison in Palestine. What about the 75 years of oppression of Palestine .Israel facilitated Hamas to divide Palestine so Oalestine will not be united .perhaps this side of the story need to be told.
I am so profoundly impressed by PBS's coverage of this conflict. It truly restores sanity. THANK YOU for bringing up the point that Zionist rhetoric has for years echoed the same sentiment about a biblical stake to the land.
im not sure if this is in jest or you're being serious. PBS participated in obfuscating nearly every aspect of the "war" (ethnic cleansing) until recent weeks, it did the most damage during the first days of the conflict regurgitating IDF talking points. In fact, during the initial and most intense publicly recorded / documented / televised calls for literal ethnic cleansing of gaza by senior israeli government officials & leadership - PBS was nowhere to be found aside from the strict talking points they were required to repeat 24/7 on the airwaves. I'm not attacking you, but please consider your words against the reality on the ground. Take care
@@jbear1801 There was a clear global shock at the obvious atrocity that was the October 7th attack. With respect, there wasn't anything else TO cover in the immediate aftermath of a thousand dead civilians. That being said, as evidence began to come out of Israel's overreaction, PBS has been one of the few fair outlets toward Palestinians for easily the past 8+12 weeks. I've been watching myriad news outlets since the beginning from Israeli sources to Al Jazeera to domestic outlets within the US.
Friedman talking about lack of leadership in the middle east as Americans head to the polls to pick between a geriatric and a 🤡.
Two geriatrics. Traitor Trump is mentally unstable.
A moral bankrupt geriatric..!!!
Two geriatrics and two clowns !!
The Nazis made me afraid of being Jewish and the Zionists made me ashamed of being Jewish.” Israel Shahak, a Holocaust survivor
God bless you for your righteousness, people like you will ensure the world is still a better place to live.kudos to you
sounds like our canadian prime minister except the war part.
we dont have any weapons left we gave them all away
US a fully vested partner in this genocide. Israeli politics is a non issue.
4:38 thats hamas founding charta that has been updated from 2017 to a peaceful 2 state system.
Hamas has given their statement, a 16 pages report, also they gave an explanation how the hostages got captured earlier at the start.
So are they pretending to be so clueless?
Only GOD can fix this ! ❤ Too many lives lost. 😢😢😢
If there was a god capable of fixing this he would have been capable of preventing it or stopping it a long time ago.
True! Only GOD can fix this ! Included among the people who don't believe in GOD are the Zionist who claim that GOD gave them the land and that the Torah is their deed.
ALLÃH is GOD! People who don't believe in GOD don't believe and don't understand that Justice, Judgment, Recompense, Reward, and Punishment, Forgiveness and Mercy are Ultimately (figuratively speaking) in the Hands of ALLÃH.
Fixing it and making it right is not just about what happens in this temporary world. The life of this world, among other things, is a test that all of us are required to take, and many of us are doomed to fail because we deny ALLÃH and we don't even try to understand.
He's saying Biden needs to be clear and not waffle based on what he hears from the leader
At this point, Netanyahu has to go, in order for Israel to be allowed to remain what it is…..
@@lesliepropheter5040Not just him; all the other right-wing extremists too
Notice how the media never asks Netanyahu on or about his views on where genocide begins ?
Didn’t Braitain and France cause all this trouble in WW1?
They should fund the rebuilding of GAZA and UN needs to step in…
Yes to two states……!
“… I am deeply disturbed … (Amanpour and Company)
No Thomas, you are not “deeply disturbed” you’re just saying that as if to ‘throw a bone’ to the interviewer and perhaps to the audience at large for deep down you like those in the administration ‘have’ to show ‘some’ discomfort with the loss of 25,000 thousand -Palestinian- lives never mind the un-accounted for under the rubble and the flattening -‘mowing the lawn’- of 90% of residential buildings in Gaza. 👎🤮 (🥵)
According to Hamas Health Ministry. Gimme a break, will you?
Please call your Congressman and Senator to stop Palestine holocaust
CBS News 12/2/23. “United Auto Workers Union calls for immediate permanent ceasefire in Israel Hamas war, becoming largest labor union to do so”
Please call your Congressman and Senator to help release Israeli hostages
i tried but aipac answers the phone for arrington of tx
Thank you Thomas!
Agree with each word you said
“Hamas and it's Supporters Has a Lot to Answer For:”
Damn,, the very last bit about ntnyhu & trump was sad, and depressing
It is strikingly clear that viable, robust, sustainable and durable peace is impossible unless Palestinian people are treated with human dignity and honour.Israel has failed in protecting its peoplel.If Palestinians are safe, it means Israel is safe.Israeli security is hinged on Palestinian security.
The way Hamas treat them?
People ignore that the Palestinians have been offered a state several times and have turned it down every time. Israel also left Gaza in 2005-That worked out well.
How can one man sacrifice his own and another country for his own personal survival. What can be a greater crime? Same for Hamas.
He is such a liar
How??
@@alanMeplusYou on at least 10 counts which I listed.
So strong? He’s committing a genocide,
A very real and rational conversation between two very well respected voices on the subject.
Who only present one side and ignore that sides sores.
FIRST TIME WE’VE SEEN YOUR PROGRAM N WE THINK THIS IS FABULOUS 😊👍🏽💞
We pray God justice would be delivered by humans for humanity sake!!!
Islam will move again for you.
You are completely wrong about the rape and killing of any children, you are a big lier, shame on you.
From the river to the sea means a one state solution where all the belivers of three religions would live in peace and harmony enjoying equal rights .
That's what you say. I hear different definitions, different meanings, one of them exact opposite of yours, and therein lies the problem of using the phrase at all.
Great point, Tom! Yes why isn't the media holding Hamas accountable for Hamas actions?
Well the claim of raping women and killing infant was reported and verified was not true . I was disappointed that was not challenged
To say Hamas is using civilians as human shields is like saying the fighters in the Warsaw Ghetto or the French Resistance were using civilians as human shields.
I agree that Netanyahu is not representing a peaceful solution and same goes for the Palestinians, Hamas, that are in the grip of Iran. What I don’t understand is why other Arab states in the region don’t invite women and children to stay until this war is over. How difficult would this be ?
So solutions exist and our political establishment must get a handle on it.