Hello ! Before making up my mind, I'd like to know, did you get any issue with Alienware command center, for changing rgb keybord lights colors or ajusting fan speed ?
@@JarrodsTech Yeah, I ordered mine from HIDevolution, with a Liquid metal Repaste as well as Premium Thermal Pads. :) Hopefully, with an undervolt, I would be able to get acceptable results. Looking forward to more videos for the M17. Hopefully, the RTX2060 that I got with my unit would be more than enough to run games comfortably at 1440p... I would have preferred if it came with a High Refresh Rate 1080p panel instead, bit it is what it is and the RTX2070MQ is just a disappointment on all fronts.
It is thermal throttling on the GPU, I cover that in the full review linked in the description, so there is performance loss. That said, I did not test WOW, so not sure what you're comparing with out of my results.
@@JarrodsTech I was just comparing the fact that you mainly ran between 80 to 100fps on most of your games ultra setting and for a $4000 laptop that's not very good.
You couldn't attend the Acer event?? I was expecting some content regards to the new Acer Helio and Acer nitro series. Anyway great review on the Alienware 👍. Will be waiting for the new Acer products.
Unfortunately I wasn't invited to attend it, I could have watched the live stream but unfortunately I'm traveling at the moment anyway so I'll watch the replay later
Ver nice video, thank you again for showing how other laptops compare to it, it's always nice showing other laptops like the 1070 max q. I don't really see this laptop being more worth it than the asus, simply because of cooling and performance. Hope you get to review a razerblade 15 with rtx soon👍🏽
Yeah I might the only issue is as the moment I've only got one GTX laptop with 1060 and it has a different CPU to my other RTX laptops so not sure how well I can compare at the moment
I changed the settings in Windows to 1080p so all my games would automatically recognize it as a 1080p display then I wouldn't have to change the resolution settings in 20 games.
To be honest I don't know many prices off the top of my head, I think for that price you could find a 2070 laptop like the Scar II GL504GW (seems to be $1850 on sale from $2000 on Amazon), however I haven't personally used any 2070 laptops so can't recommend one based on my own experience at the moment.
Just like every other Alienware, you’d probably see a significant improvement with an undervolt, repaste (or even better with a Graphite pad in my experience!), and raising its bum off the desk. Not something a consumer should have to worry about, but seems par for the course with most thin n lights. Makes you wonder how much cost some simple tweaking would add to the laptop from Dell’s side, as it would improve the end user experience quite a bit.
Great video. A bit disappointing with the throttling. I wonder if it will even be worth spending the $350 for the i9 even considering other laptops don't really show the benefit due to throttling. Also really odd screen choices compared to the competition. This was the one laptop I was worried might give me buyers remorse on my gx701. I upgraded from an Alienware 13 (OLED), and the keyboard is fantastic, the build quality is great (though I'd give my gx701 a slight edge, but both top tier IMHO). The m17 is about 30% bigger and doesn't have gsync though. Thought about waiting for the OLED since I loved my OLED (though prefer gsync + 144hz instead given the choice), though the rumors seemed to be 4k OLEDs, which are pointless in a gaming laptop IMHO. Either way with the performance so far that really makes me sad (even if it makes me happy for my choice itself). It's interesting to see that the gx701 does a good 10%-ish better than this (like it does the gs75 based on other reviews) despite this having the 90w bios. I wonder if undervolting might net big gains in this case (basically -maybe- approach what the gx701 can do stock) or if the thermal design just can't handle it. If so repasting seems likely to be essential to get full performance out of these non-gx701 2080 max q laptops (and flashing the vbios apparently like some people are doing to get the 90w version on 80w stock ones). Of course I'd then be interested in the gx701 being repasted and see how far the overclocking (CPU and GPU) could be pushed with the thermal design.
Thanks! The i9 might actually be ok, I didn't see thermal throttling on the CPU, just the GPU, though in the upcoming thermal video I do speculate that adding the i9 and dumping in more heat might would result in even more throttling on the GPU under combined CPU/GPU load.
@@JarrodsTech It seems like our fears are confirmed by the latest notebookcheck review on the i9 version of the m17 "The less expensive i7-8750H in the Alienware m15, for example, performs within 2 to 3 percent of our i9-8950HK according to CineBench R15 benchmarks." Theirs cinibench multi score was almost identical to the gx701 (though the single core was a bit higher). The gx701 did anywhere from 6%-24% better on 3dmark results. Like your results the gx701 did better on gaming benchmarks too. Such a shame since I think the alienware laptops feel the best in regards to build quality (if not the most premium feeling) and the keyboards are fantastic IMHO. Of course I haven't tried an "m" version which I know is less reinforced than their thicker versions (which is what I have a 13" OLED version of). I'm also dissapointed to see the m15 get the OLED screen, but a 4k 60hz version. For gaming I would never get a 4k screen (though it'd be great for design work etc)... Was waiting for an alienware 15/17" OLED 120/144hz screen (1080p or 1440p). That would be perfection IMHO. Based on the rumors I decided to hold off and now not regretting my gx701 purchase.
Wait 1440p doesnt show? Just set the display in game to 1440p it should work, worked on my uhd alien. Seems like the solid display resolution for a 2080
Yeah I didn't actually try that lol, just tried to set it in Windows 🤔 might have been good for benchmarking purposes assuming all games allow it - I've tried that before where some games would only let you set what Windows can use though.
i am choosing between an rtx 2060 laptop with 32gb ram or gtx 1070 laptop with 16gb ram. all other spec constant, price the same, and i only play pubg, which one should i get? it seems 2060 do better than 1070 in pubg fps..... both are msi laptop.... or should i wait for the helios 300 rtx version in late april?
@@JarrodsTech yea i seen that like 5 times, but pubg was not tested. nice video comparison. but i also seen other videos claiming rtx is better in pubg
@@merrittolsen1146 It would be better for gaming overall, so yes I think so, unless you're doing something that would benefit from 4K like photo editing.
@@JarrodsTech So for about $2000 what has the same or better specs and less heating problems than this laptop. For the record my current laptop is an Acer Helios Predator 300.
Well it is sad to see that the GPU might be thermal throttling. Though maybe some tweaking and undervolting will keep it running cooler without taking a performance hit. Honestly I like it. Not as sleek and sexy as the GX701 or GS75, but it is alot more ungradable and user friendly. And thag can't be over looked when so many other manufacturers are not keeping the end user in mind.
Basically I cannot benchmark this laptop at 1440p because it does not have a 1440p screen. The 4k screen cannot be set to run at 1440p. I could however connect an external 1440p screen with mini DisplayPort, but the results there are not fair or accurate. The display output on the laptop are wired directly to the Nvidia graphics, so using an external monitor would perform better than if the laptop had a native 1440p screen, because the laptop screen uses Nvidia Optimus the display signal gets sent from the Nvidia graphics to the Intel graphics then to the display - there's an extra layer of overhead, something that does not exist when simply plugging in an external screen. I'm going to do a video showing the performance difference of this at some point in the future.
@@JarrodsTech thank you very much, can't the optimus system be bypassed in any way for hardcore gaming? I'm going to buy the M15 with the 2070 and 4K display so looking after your videos
Alienware just needs to go back to the thicker chassis and put proper cooling inside the laptops. $3000+ US for a laptop that thermal throttles inside a thin chassis just seems to be a bit much for what I would look for. I would rather pick the RTX 2060 or the GTX 1660Ti when it releases in mobile form and be done with it and save a lot more money that way, but that’s just me.
I think they definitely need to do something to improve thermals under combined CPU/GPU load, given there are other thinner machines with the same specs that perform better out there for a similar price point (eg ASUS GX701).
I know the past couple of years Dell and Alienware haven’t had the best reputation when it comes to thermal paste application in their laptops, and it might be the case with this one as well. I think the Alienware 17R5 I have might have a thermal paste issue, but I need to take it apart and check. It has the i9 8950HK and I have it running at 4.3 GHz on all cores, as that’s how fast I can run it without too much thermal throttling, and I’ve also set a pretty aggressive undervolt on it as well at about .167 mV on the core and .125 mV on the cache using Throttlestop, with the power limit set to around 65 - 70 W of power draw. Even then it can still hit the upper limits on the temperature but it doesn’t seem to thermal throttle at the very least. The GPU is a 1070, which does fine for me in my use case.
The screens are kinda bad. The 1080p screen option is only 60hz. The 1440p screen is 120hz however it is a TN panel on a high end laptop like this is should be at a minimum an ips screen. Also 4K is too demanding to run.
I agree, would have liked to seen 1080p 144hz, though at least 1440p higher refresh rate is an option, not many companies are doing that. The 4k screen looks amazing and isn't really for gaming in my opinion, good for photo/video editing
Yes it should work, it has HDMI 2.0 which according to the spec supports 1080p at 240Hz: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Refresh_frequency_limits_for_standard_video
Which games is that? Must be one that always performs pretty poorly 🤔 (can't check the results at the moment as I'm traveling) so in that case I feel like it doesn't matter as you'd be unlikely to use that setting on any laptop anyway
That was BF5 with ray tracing turned on. Who in their right mind would use raytracing with this generation at ultra graphics. It averages 90fps with it turned off at ultra. A very respectable FPS.
@@JarrodsTech Yeah, that's my point. This first generation is barely usable for RT. Nvidia is too strong to have any competition from AMD for now and these pieces of plastics are ridiculously expensive. I would accept a Thinkpad with a 2080 for that price... If they add nice speakers, 4k hdr, adobe rgb/p3, sd card, tb, 99wh battery, nvidia optimus etc... XD
And i thought alienware had a reason to overprice a bit his laptops, but seems like recently they've been lazy on their thermal :( Looking forward to some low end combo with i5 9th gen/16xx series!
Hmm, yeah I feel like they will keep the lower end specs for the Dell G series rather than do something like that under the Alienware brand, just my guess though!
@@JarrodsTech ye, but at this point i dont feel like buying dell/alienware, would rather go for omen/asus/msi! (Even tho otherd brand are doing great too but i prefer those)
@@JarrodsTech yeah man, its so sad to see even flagship laptops cant do that these days. I'm thinking of investing in either a laptop or desktop for my next machine, was really hoping laptops these days could be near desktops.
Depends on the game, sometimes the 2060 in the Scar II beat it, but that's due to the thermal throttling on the GPU in this one, but more on that in the upcoming video on thermal testing.
I would rather buy Gs75 or zephyrus s gx701gx instead of this unnecessarily expensive device. Then again, acer predator triton 500 kills them all with 2.499$ MSRP.
I disagree, one of the best so far. I don't care how hot it gets (it's not as if they are dying en masse due to heat) the performance is unmatched for a portable form factor from the maximum of four cores we had previously.
This is my go-to channel for laptop reviews.
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Great vid as always Jarrod! will wait for its full review!
Thanks!
As always, one of the best review channels out there!
Thanks Harry!
Awesome!
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Hello ! Before making up my mind, I'd like to know, did you get any issue with Alienware command center, for changing rgb keybord lights colors or ajusting fan speed ?
Coolio :) Just placed my order for this laptop, really could not wait for it.
It has thermal issues
Hope it goes well for you, I've got a couple more videos on it on the way!
@@JarrodsTech Yeah, I ordered mine from HIDevolution, with a Liquid metal Repaste as well as Premium Thermal Pads. :) Hopefully, with an undervolt, I would be able to get acceptable results. Looking forward to more videos for the M17. Hopefully, the RTX2060 that I got with my unit would be more than enough to run games comfortably at 1440p... I would have preferred if it came with a High Refresh Rate 1080p panel instead, bit it is what it is and the RTX2070MQ is just a disappointment on all fronts.
Seems like the performance is a little low? My buddy has a 2060 in his with the 7700HQ and he gets about 95FPS on WOW high settings used.
It is thermal throttling on the GPU, I cover that in the full review linked in the description, so there is performance loss. That said, I did not test WOW, so not sure what you're comparing with out of my results.
@@JarrodsTech I was just comparing the fact that you mainly ran between 80 to 100fps on most of your games ultra setting and for a $4000 laptop that's not very good.
Pretty normal for a laptop at max settings.
I'm still wondering why you still don't have a mil subs or atleast 100k yet...
Maybe one day!
he did bro.
congratulations to Jarrod'sTech.
That display is amazing
Yeah it's very nice!
I love your content keep it up
Thanks!
Great video as always, but how are the thermals with this configuration?
Thanks! I'll be covering that in the detailed thermal testing video, just showing game performance here, thermal testing will be up in a few days.
You couldn't attend the Acer event?? I was expecting some content regards to the new Acer Helio and Acer nitro series.
Anyway great review on the Alienware 👍.
Will be waiting for the new Acer products.
Unfortunately I wasn't invited to attend it, I could have watched the live stream but unfortunately I'm traveling at the moment anyway so I'll watch the replay later
@@JarrodsTech oh it's okay. I am hyped up for the new Acer nitro 7🔥. Check it out.
Yeah me too, I already asked my contact when I can get one lol
Good review
Thanks!
A benchmark without Kingdom Come Deliverance? Come on, it's the most demanding game by now.
Ver nice video, thank you again for showing how other laptops compare to it, it's always nice showing other laptops like the 1070 max q. I don't really see this laptop being more worth it than the asus, simply because of cooling and performance. Hope you get to review a razerblade 15 with rtx soon👍🏽
No problem! I had an RTX Razer laptop arrive a few days ago, I'm travelling for a few days but should be able to make a start on it this coming week.
Sounds good, can't wait to see the review. Thank you for taking the time to reply, me and many other people appreciate it
How do you feel playing over 200 fps at 60hz on overwatch ?
Feels good 😎 higher FPS with 60Hz is still beneficial: ua-cam.com/video/uzp8z1i5-Hc/v-deo.html
Hey Jarrod, ppl are doing rtx performance testing in gtx cards as nvidia has just released the rtx drivers, if you can take a look
Yeah I might the only issue is as the moment I've only got one GTX laptop with 1060 and it has a different CPU to my other RTX laptops so not sure how well I can compare at the moment
Good laptop , great video . Jarrod rocks 🔥🔥 :)
Thanks!
the performance is the same AMD 4900H and RTX 2060, poor intel
Good review ! This laptop or Aerpno 15x8 or Aéro 15x9 ? :)
Thanks! Hmm both are hot ones, but personally I prefer the Aero still because it's smaller and lighter.
@@JarrodsTech And aero 15x9 has improved speaker and software instability since aero 15x8 ?
Yo Jarrod! Acer has the 2019 helios 300 and helios 700, hope acer gives them to you to review!
Yeah I saw, waiting to hear from them when I can borrow them, though still waiting to get the Triton 500 so not too hopeful 😰
Woah 1440p on a laptop... Usually they put 1080 or 4k. Damn nice to see an option like this. Is the 1440p 144Hz? Edit: looks like 120hz TN panel
Yeah 1440p 120Hz TN, not the best, but still good to have as an option I think given many don't offer 1440p at all.
jarrod do u know how to calibrate a panel using spyder..? as usual...everyone should learn how to test laptops unbiased like u..keep up the good work.
Thanks! Yes, I include the results in the full review. Basically you just run the software that comes with it and it creates a colour profile ICC file
Are you gonna review the 2019 predator Helios 300??? I really want to see if it’s worth buying
Yeah I will do it as soon as it's available for me to borrow 👍
Thanks again jarrod
No problem!
So you are using 4k IPS laptop achieving high fps by changing in game settings to 1080p ? 4k display running on 1080p settings ?
I changed the settings in Windows to 1080p so all my games would automatically recognize it as a 1080p display then I wouldn't have to change the resolution settings in 20 games.
@@JarrodsTech so windows setting 1080p ? Not 1080p game setting ? Which is better anyway
My MSI 200 watt GTX 1080 annihilates them all! YEET!
Hardly a comparison 😛
Definetly including back breaking while carrying test and monthly electric bill test
Alienware m17 vs zepherus S which would you recommend
I think ge75 raider better than both of them.
@@EnesIrac The asus have a better build quality and thermal management
Zephyrus S
Zephyrus seems to do better at cooling despite being thinner, however I have not yet tested the RTX version of the Zephyrus S (15 inch GX531 that is).
Jarrod'sTech if I’m referring to the gx701 would that be better than the Alienware m17?
Hey jarrod, how do you overlay the bar diagrams over gameplay?
I put the graph above the video clip, lower the opacity of the graph layer and boost the contrast.
What overall gaming laptop would you recommend for around a $2k usd budget?
To be honest I don't know many prices off the top of my head, I think for that price you could find a 2070 laptop like the Scar II GL504GW (seems to be $1850 on sale from $2000 on Amazon), however I haven't personally used any 2070 laptops so can't recommend one based on my own experience at the moment.
Hey Jarrod just a random question: is ur msi afterburner working with fortnite, i mean the On-Screen-Display. Since the update is not showing up😕
Not sure, I never use it to be honest, I just use fraps and ocat
@@JarrodsTech alright gonna try it out 😉
Just like every other Alienware, you’d probably see a significant improvement with an undervolt, repaste (or even better with a Graphite pad in my experience!), and raising its bum off the desk. Not something a consumer should have to worry about, but seems par for the course with most thin n lights. Makes you wonder how much cost some simple tweaking would add to the laptop from Dell’s side, as it would improve the end user experience quite a bit.
I test some of those out in the upcoming thermal testing video 👍
can you do msi 2060?? since i found it cheapest here. and need to know how it runs in ur opinion
Which model? They have quite a few. I haven't been able to get any MSI RTX laptops though, still waiting.
@@JarrodsTech the cheapest one are gl series. i heard the speed of chip are not max.
or you can do in ge series. rog seems to much to me i guess
Great video. A bit disappointing with the throttling. I wonder if it will even be worth spending the $350 for the i9 even considering other laptops don't really show the benefit due to throttling. Also really odd screen choices compared to the competition. This was the one laptop I was worried might give me buyers remorse on my gx701. I upgraded from an Alienware 13 (OLED), and the keyboard is fantastic, the build quality is great (though I'd give my gx701 a slight edge, but both top tier IMHO). The m17 is about 30% bigger and doesn't have gsync though. Thought about waiting for the OLED since I loved my OLED (though prefer gsync + 144hz instead given the choice), though the rumors seemed to be 4k OLEDs, which are pointless in a gaming laptop IMHO. Either way with the performance so far that really makes me sad (even if it makes me happy for my choice itself).
It's interesting to see that the gx701 does a good 10%-ish better than this (like it does the gs75 based on other reviews) despite this having the 90w bios. I wonder if undervolting might net big gains in this case (basically -maybe- approach what the gx701 can do stock) or if the thermal design just can't handle it. If so repasting seems likely to be essential to get full performance out of these non-gx701 2080 max q laptops (and flashing the vbios apparently like some people are doing to get the 90w version on 80w stock ones). Of course I'd then be interested in the gx701 being repasted and see how far the overclocking (CPU and GPU) could be pushed with the thermal design.
Thanks! The i9 might actually be ok, I didn't see thermal throttling on the CPU, just the GPU, though in the upcoming thermal video I do speculate that adding the i9 and dumping in more heat might would result in even more throttling on the GPU under combined CPU/GPU load.
@@JarrodsTech It seems like our fears are confirmed by the latest notebookcheck review on the i9 version of the m17
"The less expensive i7-8750H in the Alienware m15, for example, performs within 2 to 3 percent of our i9-8950HK according to CineBench R15 benchmarks."
Theirs cinibench multi score was almost identical to the gx701 (though the single core was a bit higher).
The gx701 did anywhere from 6%-24% better on 3dmark results. Like your results the gx701 did better on gaming benchmarks too.
Such a shame since I think the alienware laptops feel the best in regards to build quality (if not the most premium feeling) and the keyboards are fantastic IMHO. Of course I haven't tried an "m" version which I know is less reinforced than their thicker versions (which is what I have a 13" OLED version of).
I'm also dissapointed to see the m15 get the OLED screen, but a 4k 60hz version. For gaming I would never get a 4k screen (though it'd be great for design work etc)... Was waiting for an alienware 15/17" OLED 120/144hz screen (1080p or 1440p). That would be perfection IMHO. Based on the rumors I decided to hold off and now not regretting my gx701 purchase.
Wait 1440p doesnt show? Just set the display in game to 1440p it should work, worked on my uhd alien. Seems like the solid display resolution for a 2080
Yeah I didn't actually try that lol, just tried to set it in Windows 🤔 might have been good for benchmarking purposes assuming all games allow it - I've tried that before where some games would only let you set what Windows can use though.
i am choosing between an rtx 2060 laptop with 32gb ram or gtx 1070 laptop with 16gb ram. all other spec constant, price the same, and i only play pubg, which one should i get? it seems 2060 do better than 1070 in pubg fps..... both are msi laptop.... or should i wait for the helios 300 rtx version in late april?
Rtx 2060
1070 generally performs just a tiny bit ahead of the 2060, I have a video comparing the two here: ua-cam.com/video/tgsyvCvO8fw/v-deo.html
@@JarrodsTech yea i seen that like 5 times, but pubg was not tested. nice video comparison. but i also seen other videos claiming rtx is better in pubg
@@JarrodsTech ua-cam.com/video/svj8K2vMWew/v-deo.html how do you feel about that?
@@JarrodsTech even comparing alienware m17 to helios 500, the rtx 2060 still outperforms gtx 1070, at least in pubg... so a bit confusing here
I want this one, but the throttling worries me. For some reason the gtx 1080 model with an i7 is much more expensive for some reason.
I'd expect the 1080 to perform better than the 2080 Max-Q - assuming of course it's the full 1080 and not a 1080 Max-Q.
@@JarrodsTech Should I get the 144 Hz screen instead of the 4K? I play mostly WoW, FF14, Diablo 3, Skyrim,and a few others.
@@merrittolsen1146 It would be better for gaming overall, so yes I think so, unless you're doing something that would benefit from 4K like photo editing.
@@JarrodsTech So for about $2000 what has the same or better specs and less heating problems than this laptop. For the record my current laptop is an Acer Helios Predator 300.
Could you do a review of legion y7000 144 hz version
I don't currently have a way of getting Lenovo laptops other than buying them myself so probably not unless they start replying to me 😰
So is all the m17s the 90wh 2080?
I think so, however I don't think dell specify on their website either way.
Jarrod'sTech ok I was just wondering if I had to get the 90wh battery to have the 90w 2080. May be a stupid question but idk lol
Well it is sad to see that the GPU might be thermal throttling. Though maybe some tweaking and undervolting will keep it running cooler without taking a performance hit.
Honestly I like it. Not as sleek and sexy as the GX701 or GS75, but it is alot more ungradable and user friendly. And thag can't be over looked when so many other manufacturers are not keeping the end user in mind.
Yeah the graphics were pretty toasty in my unit, but I'll have a whole video dedicated to that soon!
Can you explain me the 4K screen problem with resolution please?
What problem are you referring to? There's no issue running it at 4K or 1080p, just can't use 1440p.
@@JarrodsTech was referring to the 1440p problem that I didn't understand well
Basically I cannot benchmark this laptop at 1440p because it does not have a 1440p screen. The 4k screen cannot be set to run at 1440p. I could however connect an external 1440p screen with mini DisplayPort, but the results there are not fair or accurate. The display output on the laptop are wired directly to the Nvidia graphics, so using an external monitor would perform better than if the laptop had a native 1440p screen, because the laptop screen uses Nvidia Optimus the display signal gets sent from the Nvidia graphics to the Intel graphics then to the display - there's an extra layer of overhead, something that does not exist when simply plugging in an external screen. I'm going to do a video showing the performance difference of this at some point in the future.
@@JarrodsTech thank you very much, can't the optimus system be bypassed in any way for hardcore gaming? I'm going to buy the M15 with the 2070 and 4K display so looking after your videos
@Thirsty Cup That's the screen option I would choose. No it can't display 4k.
Would it run
Arma 3
Squad
Insurgency sandstorm ?
Given the specs it should run anything, how well though I cannot say as I've never played those.
Okay if by chance you have those games do a test for me please and let me know how well it did
omg those bezels... my eyes are dead
oof
and its not even more than an inch thick. this thing is ridiculous
Yeah it should be pretty good, my review of the GL504GV which is the 2060 15" version is coming out next week, overall it was pretty decent.
Alienware just needs to go back to the thicker chassis and put proper cooling inside the laptops. $3000+ US for a laptop that thermal throttles inside a thin chassis just seems to be a bit much for what I would look for. I would rather pick the RTX 2060 or the GTX 1660Ti when it releases in mobile form and be done with it and save a lot more money that way, but that’s just me.
I think they definitely need to do something to improve thermals under combined CPU/GPU load, given there are other thinner machines with the same specs that perform better out there for a similar price point (eg ASUS GX701).
I know the past couple of years Dell and Alienware haven’t had the best reputation when it comes to thermal paste application in their laptops, and it might be the case with this one as well. I think the Alienware 17R5 I have might have a thermal paste issue, but I need to take it apart and check. It has the i9 8950HK and I have it running at 4.3 GHz on all cores, as that’s how fast I can run it without too much thermal throttling, and I’ve also set a pretty aggressive undervolt on it as well at about .167 mV on the core and .125 mV on the cache using Throttlestop, with the power limit set to around 65 - 70 W of power draw. Even then it can still hit the upper limits on the temperature but it doesn’t seem to thermal throttle at the very least. The GPU is a 1070, which does fine for me in my use case.
Would 2070 be enough to run graphics on high with mods
What game? Either way I've never tested a 2070 laptop so cannot answer, I also don't mod games so not sure how that impacts performance.
Games such as gta and Skyrim
Please test it with graphics amplifier
Unfortunately it's already sent back, wasn't able to get the amplifier with it this time like I did with the m15 ☹
this laptop is the coolest running out of all others
ranking in reverse
The screens are kinda bad. The 1080p screen option is only 60hz. The 1440p screen is 120hz however it is a TN panel on a high end laptop like this is should be at a minimum an ips screen. Also 4K is too demanding to run.
I agree, would have liked to seen 1080p 144hz, though at least 1440p higher refresh rate is an option, not many companies are doing that. The 4k screen looks amazing and isn't really for gaming in my opinion, good for photo/video editing
Hows the thermals
I'll have a whole video dedicated to thermals next week!
The 2080 max q seems like a rip-off I get close to 200 FPS in doom at times with my Asus g703 gi with an overclocked gtx 1080
The 1080 would have higher TDP than the 2080 Max-Q by a fair amount, should run at fair higher clock speeds and still perform very nicely.
@@JarrodsTech thx man I really like your channel
Cheers!
Conclusion: Don't buy RTX max Q laptops
Why is that? The GX701 for instance was one of the best performing laptops I've tested so far 😛
@@JarrodsTech Buy a RTX 2060 laptop for $1500 and build a PC for $2000.
@@aravindr4986 I'd rather have a laptop than a PC though.
@@aravindr4986 But the max q 2080 is better than the 2060 mobile. No?
You test them on the i9 version, the benchmarks will increase
I doubt it, for the reasons covered in this video where I show various throttling limits: ua-cam.com/video/zbVLhHbTs3I/v-deo.html
Can this connect to 240hz external monitor ?
Yes it should work, it has HDMI 2.0 which according to the spec supports 1080p at 240Hz: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Refresh_frequency_limits_for_standard_video
ooof 3.5k for 48 fps at 1080 one has to be brain damaged to waste his money like this
Which games is that? Must be one that always performs pretty poorly 🤔 (can't check the results at the moment as I'm traveling) so in that case I feel like it doesn't matter as you'd be unlikely to use that setting on any laptop anyway
That was BF5 with ray tracing turned on. Who in their right mind would use raytracing with this generation at ultra graphics. It averages 90fps with it turned off at ultra. A very respectable FPS.
oh lol, I feel like that doesn't even count then. RTX barely works well at ultra with a 2080 Ti.
@@JarrodsTech Yeah, that's my point. This first generation is barely usable for RT. Nvidia is too strong to have any competition from AMD for now and these pieces of plastics are ridiculously expensive. I would accept a Thinkpad with a 2080 for that price... If they add nice speakers, 4k hdr, adobe rgb/p3, sd card, tb, 99wh battery, nvidia optimus etc... XD
but the question is, is it hot enough to cook an egg?
Find out in the upcoming thermal testing video 😎
Sir video on Dell G7 2019 RTX2060
I'm still waiting on Dell to send me their G series laptops, hopefully I should be getting the first one next week.
And i thought alienware had a reason to overprice a bit his laptops, but seems like recently they've been lazy on their thermal :(
Looking forward to some low end combo with i5 9th gen/16xx series!
Hmm, yeah I feel like they will keep the lower end specs for the Dell G series rather than do something like that under the Alienware brand, just my guess though!
@@JarrodsTech ye, but at this point i dont feel like buying dell/alienware, would rather go for omen/asus/msi! (Even tho otherd brand are doing great too but i prefer those)
Fair enough!
And plz compare 2070 with 2080 Max q if possible
If I ever get the 2070 in a laptop to test I'll look at doing it.
@@JarrodsTech thanks
That's crazy,... BF5 on the Asus zephyrus s gx701 is a little over 100FPS..... And it's git the same gpu in it. Lol
heh, I guess to be fair I tested this before that too and in the early days of that game it saw regular improvements with game updates.
@@JarrodsTech hey that's ok I still plan on getting the zephyrus cuz of the great cooling and the all metal body.
Fair enough!
I love your videos because you have r6s benchmarks
Cheers!
Exactly the type of laptop I want. Disappointed to hear about the significant thermal throttling.
Yeah it's not great, throttling even under GPU load with the CPU untouched, but more on that in the thermal testing video 👍
Don’t get the 120hz screen. It has poor contrast and color accuracy.
Fair enough
I love my 1440p screen. Looks amazing to me.
I wonder why, alienware laptops always look weird to me 😅
Because they're alien 👽
Area 51m plz
Just waiting for them to send one out 😎
$3k for 40fps?
In which test? I'm guessing one of the 4k ones? Like I said, I wouldn't consider these specs 4k capable 😛
@@JarrodsTech yeah man, its so sad to see even flagship laptops cant do that these days. I'm thinking of investing in either a laptop or desktop for my next machine, was really hoping laptops these days could be near desktops.
@@JarrodsTech 3K desktop would destroy these laptops for performance. i really wanted to see more from these new fancy laptops, but its poor value imo
finally！！
Woohoo!
Pretty much same power as 2060 full in laptop
Depends on the game, sometimes the 2060 in the Scar II beat it, but that's due to the thermal throttling on the GPU in this one, but more on that in the upcoming video on thermal testing.
I would rather buy Gs75 or zephyrus s gx701gx instead of this unnecessarily expensive device. Then again, acer predator triton 500 kills them all with 2.499$ MSRP.
Fair enough!
Max-Q is a joke 😂
Max-q is fine, the issue here is thermal throttling on the graphics due to cooling design
When you look at the model it looks kinda ugly
Personal preference I guess.
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This laptop looks like dookie
Aside from the sections of glossy plastics, I don't personally mind how it looks.
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Cool hope it goes well 👌
Jarrod'sTech lol I ment I got the 2070 version my bad lol 😂
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Good to hear it works 😂 you never know with UA-cam!
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i7 8750h = the worst processor from Intel
I disagree, one of the best so far. I don't care how hot it gets (it's not as if they are dying en masse due to heat) the performance is unmatched for a portable form factor from the maximum of four cores we had previously.