When I was in my twenties living in LA - I went to dinner with a guy that kinda creeped me out but I convinced myself that he drove a BMW and owned a restaurant - so he would be the kind of guy my mom would approve of. While on the date, I caught him trying to search my purse, then I cut the date short, but he would not leave me alone - so I called security on him. That's the last memory I had of this very odd, and weird date. Ten years later - I saw this guy on a True Crime show. He had picked up a girl in the mall I worked in (century city mall) and took her in his car and killed her, buried her and they did not catch him until he tried to do it again to someone else. I realize now that God in Heaven gave me the intuition to know that something was VERY WRONG with this guy. My intuition kept saying - get away from him. Don't ever ignore those feelings ladies. Its there for a reason.
There’s a video here on UA-cam that details the science behind gut feeling. It’s a message from our heart! Let me look up the name since link posts are hidden here. The Heart Is Much More Than An Organ - Heart Intelligence
Wow, I got chills while reading your post... I can only imagine your reaction learning he had murderer a woman... your intuition and being smart saved you... Thank you for sharing your story, it may save a life...👩
How chilling!! Thank god he upset you in a public place and you managed to get Security to save you😥just imagine if it was in his car or alone in his house You wouldn't have been able to get away💥 Thanks for sharing 😇our intuition is there for this purpose,hope your with a Lovely Man now❤
Trump made a mistake antagonizing Megyn Kelly early on. He also treated Biden caustically during their debate, 4 years later and it ended up biting him in the ass.
I have sympathy for 17 year old Bryan. Isolated and awkward, rejected at every turn. NO way am I taking away his responsibility (if he did this) - we each live with our decisions. However we as human beings need to be a bit more kind to awkward people. If he had ONE good, close friend I highly doubt these crimes would have occurred.
I grew up in a one parent household, endured major early childhood traumas, was socially awkward, lonely and rejected by classmates as a teen. I graduated college and worked in my profession for nearly 40yrs, and have yet to kill anyone.
@@UA-cam4me well Kohberger told friends he wanted to experience murder existentially. It is a sick desire but that is what he wanted. I'm glad he was caught and nipped in the bud.
It starts when a person refuses to forgive. Many of us have suffered bullying and rejection. But we decide to move on and find meaning in other relationships or careers. It not easy to forgive but I ask the Lord Jesus to help me. We can't live with hate and unforgiveness.
Yup... You're going in the right direction - anger 😡 When one's sick mind tries n tries n tries... but constantly fails, (to have acceptance, love/sex) I think eventually frustration gives into anger - they're eff'n tired of failure. This anger festers into a plan. Then, one day...they snap! It's pay back time 🤯💥 Many of us have had sex, many times. It's not always spectacular, sometimes it is. It's amazing or fun or bonding, whatever - but most find it a positive experience. I've never understood the constant need for therapists to equate a knife stabbing to Freud or the sexual act. Sure...a knife is a long pointy thing...that can go in.... So what. That doesn't mean the person who stabs has sex on the mind. Their anger, IMO, has reached a boiling point, and they must kill to even some score, to end a life so that person can no longer enjoy sex, or life. I think they kill purely from all forms of anger, evil and settling emotional scores.
I just finished John Grisham's book "The Judge's List" that is a fictional story about a judge who is a serial killer. It was fascinating because I wasn't expecting what unfolded. Chances are there are a lot more of these people out wandering the world than we will ever be aware of. Scary stuff. I think it is very fortunate that this guy got caught earlier than later.
If BK was following Kaylee on social media, there is an argument to be made that after stalking her for some time, he knew this was her last day in Moscow before moving out of town, so it was now or never.
I thought that too, apparently she was moving to Austin TX. Sick bastard, this girl was so close to graduate! But I watched a video saying that he went to the restaurant that Madison and Xena worked. I think he was stalking all of them.
@@dextermoore278 on a couple of channels crime Investigators said that a knife has a special meaning to Murderers Its up close ,personal and sexual in the way it is used ,I know its sick but he was obssessed with these girls
After a conversation with an unknown person, see what you are feeling. They may have said everything right, but something doesn't seems right. If something feels like it is off, it is. Trust your gut. Niceness isn't the indicator of a good person. Someone at this murder scene said they would help someone. They didn't help anyone. They took lives. There are still very good people in our world, but there are also creeps and people who do not have others best interest at heart.
My impression was that the person (who said he would help) was Ethan Chapin, Xana's boyfriend. Ethan was about 6'2" and appeared to be very physically strong, so that's why I thought he may have said that just before he was killed. Since Kohberger's capture I haven't been following as much, it's too upsetting on so many levels. Thank G-d he was caught, but the Kohberger family must be suffering almost as much as the families of the victims. Perhaps more.
@@LisaHawkinsHotJava ..it was actually read in the Affidavit that the roommate Dylan heard BK say those words to Xana before he murdered her! Ethan was already dead when he walked into Xana’s bedroom and found her crouched on the floor crying.
How could he walk into a house with 6 people and a dog confidently thinking he’d get out without getting overpowered or caught? How’s he know nobody in there was armed or awake/etc? Makes no sense to me. But I’m not a sociopath
None of us know what happened that night and we probably will never hear the truth. None of this makes sense. If the killer was watching the house then he would of known Ethan was there. Why risk it? Did the killer have a buddy with him? Why kill these 4 people? It's just completely bizarre and Dylan is hiding something. They all had something to hide.
@@dextermoore278 "If the killer was watching the house then he would of known Ethan was there. Why risk it?" I asked myself this same question. Then I remembered Ethan and Xana apparently came home around 1-2am and the killer didn't show up until later.
@@dry5555 HE still could have driven by the house earlier watching and then waited for things to quiet down. He must of seen the Food Delivery Guy and Xana getting her food. He knew people were awake. So it still seems very risky.
@@dextermoore278 Except there is no record from his phone of him being there earlier. Not arguing that it was risky. Murdering four people in a house with a knife in a short period of time usually is. I'm just saying I don't think he knew Ethan was there. And because he scoped out the place at least a dozen times, I think it's quite possible he knew where everyone slept. I also think Dylan had nothing to hide. She froze because the guy creeped her out but when he walked past her and left, maybe she felt he wasn't such a threat. Btw, a realistic motive has already been established.
Maybe it was normal to the residents to have friends over all hours of the day and night, more like a dorm than a private home, so Bryan may have seemed at first like just another visitor that somebody knew.
We are always looking for a reason why these people commit these horrible crimes when we need to come to grips with EVIL! We give these people shields for their behavior! The fact that he was interested in criminal Justice means he studied crime! He acted it out!
@@brettcordes3602 Isn't the OP describing the person as "evil" and not any specific behavior? As for a "shield", could that be in reference to the repeated suggestions that BK could be an "incel" and he hides behind this wall of hate even though I've yet to see anything to support this claim? In any event, if he was an "incel", I believe these men (misogynists) give all their power over to women when all they do is obsess over reasons to hate them. I think they're just deflecting all their pent up frustrations towards women because they can't come to terms w/their homose*uality.
Describing BK or his actions simply as “evil” ignores the potential reasons for them. And it’s important to distinguish “reasons” from “excuses.” There is a reason for every action a human takes. Studying the profiles of these killers will hopefully, one day, enable the experts to identify those at risk of becoming violent and intervene.
The complexity of BK's personality is to me very much like Russell Williams. RW started out by entering homes and stealing ladies underwear. Eventually graduated to two murders. RIP to these four beautiful young people. 💔💔💔
No way!!!!! Not even close!!!! Russell was a rapist always and brown had no sexual deviancy at all! He didn’t break into homes! You are way off fantasizing trying to compare kids to a adult who is a sadistic rapist! Geez 🙄
We all know that the school officials and politicians believe bullying is a myth and do nothing about it. I have raised to boys and a generation apart. Later in my bios life did I learn he physically defended his friends that were bullied. In HS he was suspended for fighting and I was told it was a fight and nothing about standing up to a bully. My step son did the same. In elementary school he was suspended for fighting and his friends mother let me know why. I went into a meeting with the principal and other boys parents plus my wife and stepson. My wife spoke little English and wouldn't understand the meeting so I did the talking. After principle blamed my ss for the fight I asked about the bullying. It was blown off even though numerous students had many issues. I finally looked at principle then my sson and said " if you ever see bullying go ahead and beat the F out of him ". Took my wife and left meeting. I did talk to son about why I think he was a bully and even made him invite bully to his birthday party. They remained friends until after HS. I only learn about his helping of friends by watching a couple of videos of him ko kids. His nickname was ko joe. This was after hs. Fighting is wrong but defending friends isn't. Most of these lunatics have lots of being bullied in their history and were never defended by school officials but left on their own. This is not an excuse but is a reason
@@georgewagner7787 NO...that is what I mean. The curriculum was instituted in the 80s and bullying has increased since then. Also teachers and schools protect the way girls bully so there is almost no punishment for all the mean girls.
@@georgewagner7787 in my humble opinion the way to deal with a schoolyard bully (since the adults will do nothing) is for a bunch of kids to get together and beat the crap out of the bully (without badly hurting) and let him/her/they know that such behavior will not be tolerated. If enough peers of the bully stand up to the bully, the bully may reform, as no one wants to be totally shunned.
Some pyromaniacs become firefighters. Some crazy people become psychologists. Some criminals go into criminology. Do what you love and you will never hate your job.😂
We had an area inundated with porch fires in a town w old row homes. It kept happening every few nights. Found out it was 2 volunteer firefighters. Had the area terrified.
Megyn deserves an award for listening to this guy's malarkey. Kohberg had become a radical vegetarian and had been removed from several Pennsylvania restaurants for arguing with staff and customers. Two of his murder victims worked as waitresses at a Moscow vegetarian restaurant. These are the type of connections that good detectives like to examine carefully. 😎
The MAD GREEK IS NOT A VEGETARIAN RESTAURANT. GREEK FOOD IS LAMB AND BEEF. THEY HAVE SALADS AND A VEGAN PIZZA. THATS IT. I LOVE GREEK FOOD AND I EAT IT ALL THE TIME.
I really liked this guy! So cleans seemed to be reasonable explaining all the “why’s”. I know NE PA well and Philly and it is NOT a good place to have come from now.
Anyone who is weird, intimidating, socially awkward; emotionless except for anger and blame, who is a narcissist who cannot take No for an answer; who is a grievance collector; and who has a reputation for stalking and dominance will continually get rejected by most people.
Has anyone posited that BK may have wanted to be arrested? Maybe he wanted to be studied and interviewed as a famous killer. No one will ever forget his name now
That's been discussed a lot. Phil & Gil on Surviving Survivor both believe Kohberger did everything he could to get away alive. They compare his predatory style to that of a coyote.
@@jodyjackson5475 yup. But you really mean infamy. That was FDR's word for the attack on Pearl Harbor NAS. Kohberger is definitely infamous. Also a very bat sh!t crazy sick puppy. Same age 28 as Ted Kasinsky and both PhD level academics when they both started their murderous crimes. Kasinsky hated society. Kohberger hates girls & women. Sick puppies !!
I think this guy was very smart and he thought with his knowledge and his degrees thought he could get away with it... and I don't think it was his only crime. His arrogants fascinates me.
As a retired criminal justice professor and police officer, I would challenge your belief about Kohberg's intelligence, which my guess would place him in the high normal/average level. He thought of himself as gifted but was anything but, and his horrific blundering at the crime scene, and thereafter, makes my point. Cognitive dissonance fits his psychological profile perfectly, along with a few other disorders. 😎
He was a heroin addict - which meant he was chasing some kind of release, I think, and in his studying of murders began to fantasize about that kind of thrill/high.
@@nowirehangers2815 That's true but your brain is addicted to the sensation. My ex died of an overdose and I've dated a few ex addicts to know. They always had to replace that addiction with something else because it was hard to cope while sober.
It's probably a combination of nature and nurture. Not all psychopaths become serial killers, but many serial killers were abused or emotionally neglected as children.
That’s not the case here! He was a angry incel for sure! Everyone hated him! His students in WA complained about him and the Univ was firing him for mistreating them! He wanted a thrill kill to feel something and he wanted revenge on the girls there who ignored him on Instagram. Making a point and trying yo commit a perfect heinous murder sure to be all over TV news for years! He is a psychopath creep who can’t hide it from anyone!
I'm thinking Murphy, Kaylee's dog was the hero. His barking was heard on the neighbor's surveillance camera around 4:17 am. I think the dog barking is what made him leave the house sooner because he thought attention was being brought to the house. At 4:20, his car was seen fleeing from the house. Thanks Murphy. Now everyone go out right now and adopt a dog.
It turns out that there is NO but deo tape. At all. All made up lies statement issued by Moscow PD last week. NO thud. NO neighbor video. It was a farce
I don't believe it was sexually motivated at all. He wanted quick easy stealthy kills for talking points in future discussions. He thought he was going to grade people on these murders. He was unprepared for how many people were actually in the house. The judge should give him a final grade of F before handing him the death penalty.
Yes! A rage killing and the lead up to the murders explains it all! The facts already known about his students rejecting him and complaining about him getting him fired and those girls on that house rejecting him on Instagram! He snapped! Then he plotted the most shocking murder of college students he could and did it away from his college to not draw attention to him! The tracking police did hung him tremendously in this murderous act! His own car and phone he was dumb about the gps tracking! The satellite tracking too where he went!
I wonder why his older sisters didn't try to help him learn to socialize and act more normal when approaching women. Going to a woman psychologist could be very helpful in getting better at approaching people in a positive way, being pleasant, and not taking rejection so hard. I believe he saw Maddie on Instagram and tried to contact her. She did not respond either because he was not in her circle of friends or didn't even see his message. He set his goals too high and went after one of the most beautiful young girls at Idaho State. WHY would she be interested in him? He didn't grow up there, didn't know anyone, and was not financially well off. Set goals that are possible to obtain instead of blaming his rejection on his dream girl. Totally stupid.
People have dreams & unfortunately they turn into bad or good results,, don't call mental people stupid,,, that triggers them it's just what health workers are trying to fix..To kill 4 people is in a short time is far from stupid!!
@@LisaHawkinsHotJava Lisa, some people are just evil, they do bad things and don’t feel guilty about it when they do it. They actually enjoy causing other people pain, killing or torturing others. I know this is difficult for most people to understand because we have a conscious. I know it’s human nature to try and understand why someone commits theses crimes, because we see their actions as so out of the norm, we want to rationalize it somehow. I’m sure he has killed before. I’m sure he tortured animals before. I’m sure others saw this behavior as strange an unusual, but hoped he would stop. In most cases like this, the signs that someone will commit more serious crimes are visible over their lives, but they are missed or overlooked. I don’t believe he just snapped and did it, he planned this for a long time. He probably fantasized about doing it before he even focused on these victims. I tell you this out of experience dealing with people such as this guy. To answer your question specifically, he got to a point where he was comfortable taking the risk to commit the crime. His need to act overwhelmed a persons nature not do it. I’m positive he enjoyed doing it, we can’t understand that at all! Maybe that is why he studied what he did in college, to help him commit these crimes or to study crimes like this? People generally just don’t snap one day and commit horrible crimes, they build up to doing them over time by committing other horrible acts until they rationalize the more serious crimes. Believe me, he wanted to do this, he has probably wanted to do this his entire life, if not before. My point is that some humans think differently than we do, that’s what we need to understand, they do it because they enjoy it!
There’s always a motive! That’s how the mind works! They are crazy yes but in planned murders there is lots of motive! A fast abrupt non planned murder we might say could not have much motive but even in those the motive could be paranoia from schizophrenia! There’s “always” a reason (motive) why people kill, weather it be animals in teen years or people!
I don’t know, but many things are off in this case. There are so many trouble filming of this Idaho University, they brought this guy, are making all this circus just to hide the truth.
if BK is innocent i hope his lawyers sue the shit out of this guy for basically saying yeah he killed them, instead he should be using the word ALLEGEDLY, but he isnt.
You’re right in principle but it is enough if it can be understood from the context. It’s not necessary to use allegedly or something similar in every sentence.
like Jason in Friday the 13th. First thing I thought of when I understood the basic plot of his rampage was that guy is the archetype of Jason. He's textbook.
Yes I agree with some kinda revenge . I keep feeling someone made had before he headed to Washington for college. Just feels funny why he would go all the way to Washington. I think he was drawn there because of something . It was said there were many other colleges near him he could've studied that course at. Either way they'd been a target from the get !
Right. Otherwise, why did the blood test for relative DNA done? I bet they don't have any physical evidence placing him "at the scene" per the affidavit discussions I've watched.
@@mariamcintyre363 unless there was blood and they are keeping that quiet like everything else. The other fbi guy said they wouldn't disclose everything it could tarnish the case. I'm curious
Why can't even the experts ever admit that they can be born that way. Sometimes things go wrong during gestation and it's not always just physical. They are born missing something in their brain , it's not always childhood trauma . There's a huge genetic component!
"Lizzie Borden took an axe, gave her father 40 whacks. When she saw what she had done, gave her mother 41." The jumprope jingle, the kids back then, sang. She wasnt "a stabber". Just a clarification ✌️.
As someone who has been to the Pullman-Moscow area, I can tell you that there aren’t a lot of restaurants with Vegan items on the menu. When he moved to town he might have googled for vegan food and found Mad Greek. He had a history of asking waitresses creepy questions abou t where they live and what time their shift gets over. I don’t think he “snapped” at all. I think this has been a slow burn that he has been thinking about for a long time. Lots of anger about why he doesn’t feel “alive” or connected to other people. Anger about why girls don’t like him. Some arrogance and over confidence in his ability to commit a crime. The thrill of doing something depraved. He probably saw Xana and Maddie at Mad Greek and followed them home. At some point Kaylee was on his radar too as she and Maddie were inseparable and the two of them stood out in a crowd. He started driving by their house at night, enjoying the thrill of deviance. Eventually worked up the nerve to do what he has been thinking about for a long time. Another question: I noticed his face is really gaunt. Sunken-in eye sockets etc compared to pics of him at a younger age. The Sandy Hook killer had a super gaunt face with sunken in eye sockets. You see them all the time in mugshots of violent offenders. Is there a drug ( illegal or prescription) that causes this? Or a neurological condition? Is there correlation with violent thoughts and intentions?
He is a known heroin addict. B.K. could just be looking for a fix or delivering it. Alot of drive byes near the house that night. An overdose death was recorded at that house a few years back.
School should be a safe place to be and learn. They should come down hard on bullying so students can feel safe there. Bullying can't be stopped but can be addressed better than it is today. But that's no excuse for what happened.
Not saying innocent or guilty but, unfortunately this man will not get a fair trial due to all the media coverage. It seems he's already convicted by the media.
What is a “ fair trial “ for a psychopathic killer ? This guy is either completely stupid OR he actually wanted to get caught . His own DNA on the knife sheath next to a dead body . A person having witnessed a person in the hallway matching his description . A footprint outside the room His Elantra seen outside the house early in the morning before and after the crime ... after speeding away Then returning to the crime scene at 0900 The mobile telephone pings The mobile telephone being turned off at the time the crime was occurring This man Bryan Kohberger has painted himself into a corner The media have done nothing but report facts
@Gabrielle Andrew A fair trial for anyone in this country is one where the jury has not already decided that person's guilt or innocence. The accused is presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty in a court of law (not assumed guilty in the media). You could not be on the jury.
Interesting speculation. It will be even more interesting to see what the PA State Police and Idaho State Police uncover as they pour over all of the intricate details of Kohberger's historical digital trail. We'll find out so much from that - how far all of this goes back and whether or not he chose Washington / Idaho as an ideal location for him to commit these abhorrent crimes.
In case anyone ever wondered about Ted Bundy's birth, he was born in an Orphanage. No mother was there to nurture him, to look into his eyes and say I love you. Ted lived in the Orphanage for 3 months till his grandparents came and got him. Imagine being an infant screaming your head off and no one answers you. Then as an adult you are dead inside.
This is not true about Ted Bundy. People invent stories like this. Ted Bundy's mom like most unwed girls in her generation was sent to give birth at an institution so other people would not see her pregnant and those institutions helped teach these girls how to be mothers. After having the baby she went back to live with her parents with her baby. Ted Bundy's mom raised him, remarried, had more children so he had siblings, lived with her in a house having his own bedroom and she was even there at his trials. She is on video discussing how much she loves him while he was being accused. He was never at an orphanage. Ever. She told him she loved him often. His personality had nothing to do with this false story of being abdandoned. ua-cam.com/video/-MoIGxmBbVQ/v-deo.html&ab_channel=CarolDaRonch
Touch DNA on the metal snap. Why do psychiatrists/ psychologists always sound crazy themselves? This guy doesn't even know what little has been made public, yet he is considered expert enough to be interviewed? The whole thing is just dumb.
@@Megaconcerned100 Yes - I've only heard reporting that it was BK's "touch DNA" on the snap of the sheath - that's why I was questioning that he referred to the sheath having BK's "blood" on it, which is not the same as touch DNA.
@@CherubChick1221 Yes - I've only heard reporting that it was BK's "touch DNA" on the snap of the sheath - that's why I was questioning that he referred to the sheath having BK's "blood" on it, which is not the same as touch DNA.
The guy couldn't find a girl on the out side, but if convicted and serves time he in fact will finally have a long line of women that will now find him attractive and will want to have a relationship with him. Some one should be addressing this idea.
If that was the motive it’s maybe not a good idea to kill 4 people. He’ll get a life sentence or death so quite likely he won’t have much opportunities to date. But there will be women writing him and wanting to meet him in prison. Notorious murderers always have people who are attracted to them.
@@urvashipatel5214 I don't know if I'm right, just an interesting thing to address. I bet he already has a group of women writing to him this minute. He's finally getting what he always wanted.
Something I think is kind of weird. His mom wrote some kind of a commentary and published it were people could read it about Ted Bundy obsessed or very into his story. His sister when she was younger within a movie where young people we're attacked and slaughtered with a knife. So what was going on about all this craziness and his family
I've wondered the identical thing. There are occasions where there's seemingly nothing in the background that appears connected to later violent acts but usually there is something. Based on his writings this guy was very sick very early. It's likely that there's a lot we don't yet know. People have a public persona and a private one. We might not yet have heard about the private lives. Two bankruptcies, the Bundy interest and the slasher movie, standing alone, certainly don't sound much like a typical family.
I think it was more of a challenge. The idea to become the best criminal mastermind and also to go beyond just getting inside of a criminal head but instead embody the criminal. He probably was inspired by shows like Dexter. I think the idea came first and then he looked for a victim that would get national media attention.
Would you do a broadcast on Jack the Ripper with Christer Holmgren and Edward Stow…in reference to the current overwhelming geographical and circumstantial evidence, linking Charles Lechmere to the Ripper and Thames Torso murders.
Most analysts seem to assume Kohberg set out to kill 3 or perhaps all 4 of the victims. What if he planned to slip in, kill his one target, and leave? Instead when he goes to the room of the target, he finds 2 girls there -- one of whom was just back for a visit and was sharing the room because she had sold her own furniture. One person he could likely kill without a struggle; two meant noise and tumult. On the way out he encounters those alerted by the tumult, Ethan and Xana, and kills them to eliminate witnesses and impediments to his escape. Had Maddie been the only victim, the police would have focused on her boyfriend, and if he had an alibi, on others who knew her. There would have been no major media hoohah, no State Police, no FBI. Kohberger's planning might have been much more "successful", with fewer forensic mistakes, and his motive much simpler, with one victim. Not saying that was the case -- just offering food for thought.
I think they are lesbians. The pictures shown that clearly. Ex boyfriend probably did the killing. Imagine losing your girl to a girl ? Talk about humiliation. Bryan did heroin and bought from drug house at 1122 is my take. SIGMA CHI drug store. Parties and open door leave alot of possibilities. WHERE'S THE MASSIVE BLOOD EVIDENCE ? No way. It would be everywhere. His car would be tainted.
Most Serial Killers are White males 25 to 35 years old. They usually start by killing small animals like dogs and cats when they are teenagers. They are obsessive and they fantasize a lot. Ted Bundy was living a double life. He was living with his girlfriend and her daughter. He would go out and kill women then go back to her. He never hurt the girlfriend. They took Bundy's brain after he was executed to study it. They didn't find anything unusual about his brain 🧠 which is odd.
This profiler's description of Bryan and the reasons he did these terrible things makes sense. At first glance, Bryan looks like a student in business school or some other advanced professional school. However, his creepiness is revealed sooner or later.
I had never heard anyone interviewed mentioned about the horrible and violent video games the millennials and generation x have on their video games playlist they play while growing up…so much exposure to ideas of various violence to that eventually makes them a monster in time most especially those who are very vulnerable with mental issues! It all began with duck hunt shooting.. then they progress each generations… knives, bombs, aka, etc knives attacks! This society is full of mental people and violence already… highlighted by violent video games!
What I would like to hear discussed is what the times were like back in "the Golden age" of serial killers, when they first started to emerge as if like some kind of social contagion was sweeping through the world. I would like to hear about a comparison of what psychology suggests for the cause of it, then compared to how society is acting now and the similarities between those two eras in time. It seems to me that we have replicated that situation that made all of those serial killers back in the 60's and what I find really scary is that this time around society is even more screwed up at the moment then it was back then when it was making these serial killers. Now we have school shootings, a recession, a lack of nuclear family, a lack of resources, etc, and all of it is amplified by the internet. I think this loser is just one of many that we will sadly have to clean up after, thanks to the insanity of social media and the country as a while. It's not looking good. Even if Megan doesn't do a deep dive into this, I suggest that the rest of your viewers do a little research on what caused the Golden age of Serial Killers then come back and comment whether or not you think there should be a cause for concern. It really is bothersome to say the least.
There's no golden age of serial killers, thats a catch phrase that crime historians like to try and use to captivate people like you. There has been horrific crimes like this ongoing throughout time. If there was any up tick in crime during that period, was because there was no camera surveillance at that time, and a upswing in technology and society change. Things like bigger cities more businesses more jobs more transportation more culture more parties loser morals but yet all the same time people still trusting in the good of humanity before they got a rude awakening. More aggressive sexualized music more violent images coming from your news media just like these leech's in this case trying to beat a dead horse for views. This coverage of this case in the way they have overdone it will ultimately cause copy cats in the future. You can blame Netflix and Hulu as well, promoting shows like YOU and Dahmer. This is where these kids are getting their ideas not the golden age your speculating on. Look at what you called it! Golden! You are honoring these monsters with your speech..this is why we have more interest in this subject.
I know the profiles of serial killers of the "Golden age" no longer apply. We have people with all kinds of backgrounds committing horrific crimes, and I completely agree with your analysis.
I forget the name of the book but the library had an awful true story about an ax murderer who rode the trains in the 1800s. The authors tried to identify him. The police back then of course didn't have phones etc
@@jdoe3487 I agree. Here's an even more disturbing story that I believe actually happened recently. There was a bunch of videos and articles on it but only a few are leaft online still. Apparently a few years ago right before the pandemic hit, over in Japan a technology group were working on some new AI technology in their lab. Specifically building automated robot units. These robots were designed to self evolve and write their own script or gameplay. So apparently at some point the robots started to malfunction or not shut off when they were supposed to. They started to write their own survival data code in defense of being shutdown or something. As the engineers and lab workers tried to disable them or shut them down the robots started freaking out. According to the news article a group of 4 robots in the lab killed 29 people. Look it up it's apparently a true story! Seriously creepy terminator type stuff, this is the type of bizarre modern world we may one day live in!
No they did not scream. Miss Dylan reported no screams. Just the dog barking and Xana crying. Those were the only sounds. Most likely Mattie & Kaylee & Ethan were asleep when killed & Xana was away in the bathroom & didn't notice Kohberger killing the 3 of them.
Soon they will have an explanation for every possibly reason, then you'll have to start to be reasonable about what you say. There isn't anything that is being said that we cant shut down.
There's no proof showing this guy was an incel......also, he's a person of interest and has not been charged yet. No, I'm not a BK supporter by any streth of the imagination but I do have enough patience to wait for the evidence to be shown. You should be more professional in your dissemination of information regarding this case. imho
All unnecessary speculation. You have already convicted him before a trial. It may be very likely that he committed the murders but let’s let the legal system work. Very unprofessional to create a notion of certainty before a trial.
I think he decided to study crime cos he needed to know how to get away with murder. He knew he was going to become a murderer. He was looking for loopholes and information which could help him escape justice for his crimes.
Because Kohberger is a stupid inexperienced novice killer. He should have left his phone at home turned on. He should have stolen a car and used that for the murders. He should have mounted his knife on his belt. He should not have left Miss Dylan alive. He should not have returned to the crime scene later that day. If he had done all that then he would not have been caught right away. Within a couple of weeks LEOs had his car, his driver's license, his cell phone, and everything needed to get an arrest warrant.
Why didn't Kohberger take a few years off from school? He could've addressed his problem through therapy or by hanging out with family or friends and focusing on finding a girlfriend. His friends and family could've helped him to meet someone. Sometimes support from others can make dating easier. If he was getting rejected why not ask other guys for help in that area. His friends and family could've hooked him up with someone who was his type that would've been interested in him. If his strategy with women wasn't working he should've asked other guys with girlfriends for help.
I wonder is anything on his background true? There's so much speculation...this guy sitting here saying he's probably watching Rope etc etc 🤣🤣🤣 imagine he's just a straight laced studious hardworking pleasant guy, who is an introvert. Nothing is fact here or anywhere else until we actually have the facts 🤣🤣🤣
When I was in my twenties living in LA - I went to dinner with a guy that kinda creeped me out but I convinced myself that he drove a BMW and owned a restaurant - so he would be the kind of guy my mom would approve of. While on the date, I caught him trying to search my purse, then I cut the date short, but he would not leave me alone - so I called security on him. That's the last memory I had of this very odd, and weird date. Ten years later - I saw this guy on a True Crime show. He had picked up a girl in the mall I worked in (century city mall) and took her in his car and killed her, buried her and they did not catch him until he tried to do it again to someone else. I realize now that God in Heaven gave me the intuition to know that something was VERY WRONG with this guy. My intuition kept saying - get away from him. Don't ever ignore those feelings ladies. Its there for a reason.
There’s a video here on UA-cam that details the science behind gut feeling. It’s a message from our heart!
Let me look up the name since link posts are hidden here.
The Heart Is Much More Than An Organ - Heart Intelligence
Whew so glad you followed your intuition. The dating world is a major risk for women these days.
Wow, I got chills while reading your post... I can only imagine your reaction learning he had murderer a woman... your intuition and being smart saved you... Thank you for sharing your story, it may save a life...👩
How chilling!! Thank god he upset you in a public place and you managed to get Security to save you😥just imagine if it was in his car or alone in his house
You wouldn't have been able to get away💥
Thanks for sharing 😇our intuition is there for this purpose,hope your with a Lovely Man now❤
I can relate. Listen to and don’t second guess that inner voice…it won’t steer you wrong.
I enjoy Megyn’s show because she does not talk over her guests. She is very intelligent and listens intently.
I agree love watching her she try to see all the sides and really get to the heart of something.
It helps that the guy she's talking to is about as bright as anyone we've seen dissect / discuss this case.
Trump made a mistake antagonizing Megyn Kelly early on. He also treated Biden caustically during their debate, 4 years later and it ended up biting him in the ass.
Same 👍🏼 she's the best 😊
She has the most soothing voice! I could listen to this type of voice all day long.
"Feeling dead, feeling nothing" he's a psychopath. Not all psychopaths kill but many killers are psychopaths.
I have sympathy for 17 year old Bryan. Isolated and awkward, rejected at every turn.
NO way am I taking away his responsibility (if he did this) - we each live with our decisions. However we as human beings need to be a bit more kind to awkward people. If he had ONE good, close friend I highly doubt these crimes would have occurred.
I grew up in a one parent household, endured major early childhood traumas, was socially awkward, lonely and rejected by classmates as a teen. I graduated college and worked in my profession for nearly 40yrs, and have yet to kill anyone.
@@stephguz yes no one wants to question their behaviour or character
Even Dylan is off limits
It’s weird
he w@s drenched in drugs when he s@id he felt de@d.
I know now I married one. Evil incarnate.
Thank you for going right to the guest. Us UA-cam’s don’t need always like 1 min intros 💕. Appreciate your channel
I am BEYOND IMPRESSED with your guest, James R. Fitzgerald today!! Outstanding content on the Idaho murder case! Very well done!
A lot of people have been rejected in their lives. Doesn't mean they go out and kill innocent people!
of course, his brain is wired unlike the majority
I think the rejection theory is just normal people trying somehow to understand the inexplicable act of murder. It just doesn't make sense.
@@UA-cam4me trying to rationalise irrationality is honestly impossible to do in this crazy guy's case.
@@UA-cam4me well Kohberger told friends he wanted to experience murder existentially. It is a sick desire but that is what he wanted. I'm glad he was caught and nipped in the bud.
@@UA-cam4me You are probably right. But it sounds so "lame" in such a horrific crime when every human has experienced rejection in one way or another.
Finally, a host that actually lets the guest speak without interruption!!!
Millions of us have watched Hitchcock movies and have never become murderers.
It starts when a person refuses to forgive. Many of us have suffered bullying and rejection. But we decide to move on and find meaning in other relationships or careers. It not easy to forgive but I ask the Lord Jesus to help me. We can't live with hate and unforgiveness.
@@georgewagner7787 your Jesus has a Father that is vindictive and full of wrath. How does that work?
Plagues,floods,murder of first born children..
lifeboat is my favorite
2:37 Jason style Friday the 13th, probably watched that too. Nightmare on Elm St 4 in 3D with the silly red and blue glasses.
Does murdering spiders count after watching them? Just asking for a friend.
I feel like the anger becomes more important than the sexual element in these cases.
@Woke Plantation Blues I love you user name.
What do you think drives this? Honest question
@Woke Plantation Blues What, then, ultimately drives a person(s) to commit such crimes? If not anger, what???
I've read too that some murderers will kill their victim before giving the victim the chance to reject them.
In psychiatry its called a negative feeling. Some functioning schizophrenics have absolutely no positive feeling at all
Yup... You're going in the right direction - anger 😡
When one's sick mind tries n tries n tries... but constantly fails, (to have acceptance, love/sex) I think eventually frustration gives into anger - they're eff'n tired of failure.
This anger festers into a plan. Then, one day...they snap!
It's pay back time 🤯💥
Many of us have had sex, many times. It's not always spectacular, sometimes it is. It's amazing or fun or bonding, whatever - but most find it a positive experience.
I've never understood the constant need for therapists to equate a knife stabbing to Freud or the sexual act.
Sure...a knife is a long pointy thing...that can go in.... So what. That doesn't mean the person who stabs has sex on the mind.
Their anger, IMO, has reached a boiling point, and they must kill to even some score, to end a life so that person can no longer enjoy sex, or life.
I think they kill purely from all forms of anger, evil and settling emotional scores.
I just finished John Grisham's book "The Judge's List" that is a fictional story about a judge who is a serial killer. It was fascinating because I wasn't expecting what unfolded. Chances are there are a lot more of these people out wandering the world than we will ever be aware of. Scary stuff. I think it is very fortunate that this guy got caught earlier than later.
I'm gonna buy that now thanks..love John grisham
If BK was following Kaylee on social media, there is an argument to be made that after stalking her for some time, he knew this was her last day in Moscow before moving out of town, so it was now or never.
I saw the same theory on Unsolved No More recently.
I think he wanted to SA her but he didnt get the chance,his plan went to sh#t😥
Feel for the Families💕💖
I thought that too, apparently she was moving to Austin TX. Sick bastard, this girl was so close to graduate!
But I watched a video saying that he went to the restaurant that Madison and Xena worked. I think he was stalking all of them.
@@allyw1364 I don't think he was thinking of SX when he butchered Kaylee.
@@dextermoore278 on a couple of channels crime Investigators said that a knife has a special meaning to Murderers
Its up close ,personal and sexual in the way it is used ,I know its sick but he was obssessed with these girls
After a conversation with an unknown person, see what you are feeling. They may have said everything right, but something doesn't seems right. If something feels like it is off, it is. Trust your gut. Niceness isn't the indicator of a good person. Someone at this murder scene said they would help someone. They didn't help anyone. They took lives. There are still very good people in our world, but there are also creeps and people who do not have others best interest at heart.
That’s what BK told Xana before he murdered her!
My impression was that the person (who said he would help) was Ethan Chapin, Xana's boyfriend. Ethan was about 6'2" and appeared to be very physically strong, so that's why I thought he may have said that just before he was killed. Since Kohberger's capture I haven't been following as much, it's too upsetting on so many levels. Thank G-d he was caught, but the Kohberger family must be suffering almost as much as the families of the victims. Perhaps more.
@@LisaHawkinsHotJava ..it was actually read in the Affidavit that the roommate Dylan heard BK say those words to Xana before he murdered her! Ethan was already dead when he walked into Xana’s bedroom and found her crouched on the floor crying.
Thanks Mr. Fitzgerald for echoing my words. He did it for the notoriety.
As only 1 motive! It’s a angry vengeful crime most of all!
How could he walk into a house with 6 people and a dog confidently thinking he’d get out without getting overpowered or caught? How’s he know nobody in there was armed or awake/etc? Makes no sense to me. But I’m not a sociopath
None of us know what happened that night and we probably will never hear the truth. None of this makes sense. If the killer was watching the house then he would of known Ethan was there. Why risk it? Did the killer have a buddy with him? Why kill these 4 people? It's just completely bizarre and Dylan is hiding something. They all had something to hide.
@@dextermoore278 "If the killer was watching the house then he would of known Ethan was there. Why risk it?" I asked myself this same question. Then I remembered Ethan and Xana apparently came home around 1-2am and the killer didn't show up until later.
@@dry5555 HE still could have driven by the house earlier watching and then waited for things to quiet down. He must of seen the Food Delivery Guy and Xana getting her food. He knew people were awake. So it still seems very risky.
@@dextermoore278 Except there is no record from his phone of him being there earlier. Not arguing that it was risky. Murdering four people in a house with a knife in a short period of time usually is. I'm just saying I don't think he knew Ethan was there. And because he scoped out the place at least a dozen times, I think it's quite possible he knew where everyone slept. I also think Dylan had nothing to hide. She froze because the guy creeped her out but when he walked past her and left, maybe she felt he wasn't such a threat. Btw, a realistic motive has already been established.
Maybe it was normal to the residents to have friends over all hours of the day and night, more like a dorm than a private home, so Bryan may have seemed at first like just another visitor that somebody knew.
We are always looking for a reason why these people commit these horrible crimes when we need to come to grips with EVIL! We give these people shields for their behavior! The fact that he was interested in criminal Justice means he studied crime! He acted it out!
Blaming behavior like this on “evil” is low effort and unhelpful.
The labeling of this act is evil and accurate
Exactly.
@@brettcordes3602 Isn't the OP describing the person as "evil" and not any specific behavior? As for a "shield", could that be in reference to the repeated suggestions that BK could be an "incel" and he hides behind this wall of hate even though I've yet to see anything to support this claim?
In any event, if he was an "incel", I believe these men (misogynists) give all their power over to women when all they do is obsess over reasons to hate them. I think they're just deflecting all their pent up frustrations towards women because they can't come to terms w/their homose*uality.
Describing BK or his actions simply as “evil” ignores the potential reasons for them. And it’s important to distinguish “reasons” from “excuses.” There is a reason for every action a human takes. Studying the profiles of these killers will hopefully, one day, enable the experts to identify those at risk of becoming violent and intervene.
The complexity of BK's personality is to me very much like Russell Williams. RW started out by entering homes and stealing ladies underwear. Eventually graduated to two murders. RIP to these four beautiful young people. 💔💔💔
Read on Elliot Roger yesterday, man. What parallels !
@@saywhatyouwant888 Elliot was a spiteful,narcissistic,egotistical little rich boy.
I don’t see the parallels.
ffsake he has not been proven guilty
Often starts out with Peeping Tom.
No way!!!!! Not even close!!!! Russell was a rapist always and brown had no sexual deviancy at all! He didn’t break into homes! You are way off fantasizing trying to compare kids to a adult who is a sadistic rapist! Geez 🙄
NOTHING adds up in this highly controlled case.
Exactly my thoughts as well.
Do you think Bryan did not commit the murders? (serious question...I have no conclusion, myself)
We all know that the school officials and politicians believe bullying is a myth and do nothing about it. I have raised to boys and a generation apart. Later in my bios life did I learn he physically defended his friends that were bullied. In HS he was suspended for fighting and I was told it was a fight and nothing about standing up to a bully. My step son did the same. In elementary school he was suspended for fighting and his friends mother let me know why. I went into a meeting with the principal and other boys parents plus my wife and stepson. My wife spoke little English and wouldn't understand the meeting so I did the talking. After principle blamed my ss for the fight I asked about the bullying. It was blown off even though numerous students had many issues. I finally looked at principle then my sson and said " if you ever see bullying go ahead and beat the F out of him ". Took my wife and left meeting. I did talk to son about why I think he was a bully and even made him invite bully to his birthday party. They remained friends until after HS. I only learn about his helping of friends by watching a couple of videos of him ko kids. His nickname was ko joe. This was after hs. Fighting is wrong but defending friends isn't. Most of these lunatics have lots of being bullied in their history and were never defended by school officials but left on their own. This is not an excuse but is a reason
@The_Megyn_Kelly you're a scammer 😂😂😂
Schools are set up to reward bullies. It's better for boys to settle their differences.
My friend is a teacher and there's curriculum now. It won't change all kids though
@@georgewagner7787 NO...that is what I mean. The curriculum was instituted in the 80s and bullying has increased since then. Also teachers and schools protect the way girls bully so there is almost no punishment for all the mean girls.
@@georgewagner7787 in my humble opinion the way to deal with a schoolyard bully (since the adults will do nothing) is for a bunch of kids to get together and beat the crap out of the bully (without badly hurting) and let him/her/they know that such behavior will not be tolerated. If enough peers of the bully stand up to the bully, the bully may reform, as no one wants to be totally shunned.
Some pyromaniacs become firefighters. Some crazy people become psychologists. Some criminals go into criminology. Do what you love and you will never hate your job.😂
Haha! So true!
We had an area inundated with porch fires in a town w old row homes. It kept happening every few nights. Found out it was 2 volunteer firefighters. Had the area terrified.
🤣
🤣👍
@@2Ryled 😮😮
Megyn deserves an award for listening to this guy's malarkey. Kohberg had become a radical vegetarian and had been removed from several Pennsylvania restaurants for arguing with staff and customers. Two of his murder victims worked as waitresses at a Moscow vegetarian restaurant. These are the type of connections that good detectives like to examine carefully. 😎
That was covered in the full interview.
Obsessive vegan actually
Thank you!
The MAD GREEK IS NOT A VEGETARIAN RESTAURANT. GREEK FOOD IS LAMB AND BEEF. THEY HAVE SALADS AND A VEGAN PIZZA. THATS IT. I LOVE GREEK FOOD AND I EAT IT ALL THE TIME.
The Greek restaurant vehemently denies he was ever a customer.
I really liked this guy! So cleans seemed to be reasonable explaining all the “why’s”. I know NE PA well and Philly and it is NOT a good place to have come from now.
Who hadn't been rejected in their life ? He acted on his evil desires.
Exactly. Any female who didn't reject him would be in harms way.
Anyone who is weird, intimidating, socially awkward; emotionless except for anger and blame, who is a narcissist who cannot take No for an answer; who is a grievance collector; and who has a reputation for stalking and dominance will continually get rejected by most people.
Megyn is a great interviewer!
Has anyone posited that BK may have wanted to be arrested? Maybe he wanted to be studied and interviewed as a famous killer. No one will ever forget his name now
That's been discussed a lot.
Phil & Gil on Surviving Survivor both believe Kohberger did everything he could to get away alive. They compare his predatory style to that of a coyote.
Which is why I hate all the media coverage of criminals. Fame
@@jodyjackson5475 yup.
But you really mean infamy.
That was FDR's word for the attack on Pearl Harbor NAS.
Kohberger is definitely infamous.
Also a very bat sh!t crazy sick puppy.
Same age 28 as Ted Kasinsky and both PhD level academics when they both started their murderous crimes.
Kasinsky hated society.
Kohberger hates girls & women.
Sick puppies !!
Yes plenty of people have already said that.right at the begining Dr todd grande psychologist
@@janeslater8004 i hadn’t heard that, but I’m glad it’s being considered by the professionals
I think this guy was very smart and he thought with his knowledge and his degrees thought he could get away with it... and I don't think it was his only crime. His arrogants fascinates me.
Yeah, not his first crime, no way
I think he believed he was smarter then he really was...must tick him off he made mistakes. JMO
@@MsCNail-fe1sj lol bet it does
As a retired criminal justice professor and police officer, I would challenge your belief about Kohberg's intelligence, which my guess would place him in the high normal/average level. He thought of himself as gifted but was anything but, and his horrific blundering at the crime scene, and thereafter, makes my point. Cognitive dissonance fits his psychological profile perfectly, along with a few other disorders. 😎
@@549BR lol I agree he had issues long seated ones.
He was a heroin addict - which meant he was chasing some kind of release, I think, and in his studying of murders began to fantasize about that kind of thrill/high.
"began to fantasize about that kind of thrill/high." Yes, this could have been the basic motive, the psychological curiosity about the killer's mind.
@The_Megyn_Kelly you're a scammer 😂😂😂
This seems to me the most likely motivation for the crime.
Heroin doesn’t get you high as in a thrill.
It’s sedating,comforting,lulling.
Ridiculous comparison
@@nowirehangers2815 That's true but your brain is addicted to the sensation. My ex died of an overdose and I've dated a few ex addicts to know. They always had to replace that addiction with something else because it was hard to cope while sober.
Psychopaths dont snap, they are born that way
yup..watch american psycho
Or created in a Godless, ammoral culture.
It's probably a combination of nature and nurture. Not all psychopaths become serial killers, but many serial killers were abused or emotionally neglected as children.
I’ve heard other experts say the act of stabbing can mimic the feeling of sex for some murders. Beyond disturbing.
That’s not the case here! He was a angry incel for sure! Everyone hated him! His students in WA complained about him and the Univ was firing him for mistreating them!
He wanted a thrill kill to feel something and he wanted revenge on the girls there who ignored him on Instagram. Making a point and trying yo commit a perfect heinous murder sure to be all over TV news for years! He is a psychopath creep who can’t hide it from anyone!
Thank you to James Fitzgerald for not saying his name!!
I'm thinking Murphy, Kaylee's dog was the hero. His barking was heard on the neighbor's surveillance camera around 4:17 am. I think the dog barking is what made him leave the house sooner because he thought attention was being brought to the house. At 4:20, his car was seen fleeing from the house. Thanks Murphy. Now everyone go out right now and adopt a dog.
Big dog!
Then why didn't the dog bite to protect ?
The dog was found in Kaylee's room, not Maddie's. They both were killed in Maddie's room.
Dogs are the 👌 best
It turns out that there is NO but deo tape. At all. All made up lies statement issued by Moscow PD last week. NO thud. NO neighbor video. It was a farce
I don't believe it was sexually motivated at all. He wanted quick easy stealthy kills for talking points in future discussions. He thought he was going to grade people on these murders. He was unprepared for how many people were actually in the house. The judge should give him a final grade of F before handing him the death penalty.
Yes! A rage killing and the lead up to the murders explains it all! The facts already known about his students rejecting him and complaining about him getting him fired and those girls on that house rejecting him on Instagram! He snapped! Then he plotted the most shocking murder of college students he could and did it away from his college to not draw attention to him! The tracking police did hung him tremendously in this murderous act! His own car and phone he was dumb about the gps tracking! The satellite tracking too where he went!
No one can ever predict exactly when another person will snap. But there are people it’s obvious WILL snap sooner or later.
I wonder why his older sisters didn't try to help him learn to socialize and act more normal when approaching women. Going to a woman psychologist could be very helpful in getting better at approaching people in a positive way, being pleasant, and not taking rejection so hard. I believe he saw Maddie on Instagram and tried to contact her. She did not respond either because he was not in her circle of friends or didn't even see his message. He set his goals too high and went after one of the most beautiful young girls at Idaho State. WHY would she be interested in him? He didn't grow up there, didn't know anyone, and was not financially well off. Set goals that are possible to obtain instead of blaming his rejection on his dream girl. Totally stupid.
@@dextermoore278 he actually said it was maddie was beautiful not kaylee
@@janeslater8004 Oops. My mistake. Thank you.
That's why he killed her..
It's not a matter of choosing a woman who is less beautiful, or setting your sights on someone less desirable...he would have abused ANY woman.
People have dreams & unfortunately they turn into bad or good results,, don't call mental people stupid,,, that triggers them it's just what health workers are trying to fix..To kill 4 people is in a short time is far from stupid!!
He probably wasn't expecting the two girls to be in the same room that night.
We are lucky that there was a camera who caught him leaving with the car
Way more damning evidence exists in this case!
Always top notch reporting. Great questions.
I prefer to listen, Thanks.
I’ve always loves listening to Megan
This expert is excellent. The best I've seen on this case.
Presumes Bryan guilty. Not professional at all. Brags of test He made self promotion.
Why do people always need a reason for people doing bad things? Sometimes they are just crazy!
ok, fair enough. But what's the tipping point: eg what makes them go over the edge?
@@LisaHawkinsHotJava Lisa, some people are just evil, they do bad things and don’t feel guilty about it when they do it. They actually enjoy causing other people pain, killing or torturing others. I know this is difficult for most people to understand because we have a conscious. I know it’s human nature to try and understand why someone commits theses crimes, because we see their actions as so out of the norm, we want to rationalize it somehow. I’m sure he has killed before. I’m sure he tortured animals before. I’m sure others saw this behavior as strange an unusual, but hoped he would stop. In most cases like this, the signs that someone will commit more serious crimes are visible over their lives, but they are missed or overlooked. I don’t believe he just snapped and did it, he planned this for a long time. He probably fantasized about doing it before he even focused on these victims. I tell you this out of experience dealing with people such as this guy. To answer your question specifically, he got to a point where he was comfortable taking the risk to commit the crime. His need to act overwhelmed a persons nature not do it. I’m positive he enjoyed doing it, we can’t understand that at all! Maybe that is why he studied what he did in college, to help him commit these crimes or to study crimes like this? People generally just don’t snap one day and commit horrible crimes, they build up to doing them over time by committing other horrible acts until they rationalize the more serious crimes. Believe me, he wanted to do this, he has probably wanted to do this his entire life, if not before. My point is that some humans think differently than we do, that’s what we need to understand, they do it because they enjoy it!
There’s always a motive! That’s how the mind works! They are crazy yes but in planned murders there is lots of motive!
A fast abrupt non planned murder we might say could not have much motive but even in those the motive could be paranoia from schizophrenia!
There’s “always” a reason (motive) why people kill, weather it be animals in teen years or people!
@@LisaHawkinsHotJava
A reason or motive to kill makes them do the act! This person is wrong!!!!
Megyn Kelly ♡♡ So Brilliant!☆
I don’t know, but many things are off in this case. There are so many trouble filming of this Idaho University, they brought this guy, are making all this circus just to hide the truth.
Why aren't you talking about the Ana Walshe case? I was waiting and waiting but nothing
I believe that Annie Elise on 10 to Life did a video, also Stephanie Harlowe.
if BK is innocent i hope his lawyers sue the shit out of this guy for basically saying yeah he killed them, instead he should be using the word ALLEGEDLY, but he isnt.
I feel the same. Too many people are driven by feelings in times like these. I get it. But we must remain objective. Hopefully justice is served
Yeah. This James dude sucks...
You’re right in principle but it is enough if it can be understood from the context. It’s not necessary to use allegedly or something similar in every sentence.
Yea they took 7 weeks to arrest the wrong person. He is guilty!
Meg you have a good way of asking questions
Rejection Hurts…A social misfit wanting revenge
like Jason in Friday the 13th. First thing I thought of when I understood the basic plot of his rampage was that guy is the archetype of Jason. He's textbook.
Yes I agree with some kinda revenge . I keep feeling someone made had before he headed to Washington for college. Just feels funny why he would go all the way to Washington. I think he was drawn there because of something . It was said there were many other colleges near him he could've studied that course at. Either way they'd been a target from the get !
The knife sheath had his blood on it? I haven't heard that, I think this guy is wrong. I know his DNA is on the sheath but not blood evidence
True they said DNA on the sheath but haven't disclosed what kind of DNA
Right. Otherwise, why did the blood test for relative DNA done? I bet they don't have any physical evidence placing him "at the scene" per the affidavit discussions I've watched.
@@mariamcintyre363 unless there was blood and they are keeping that quiet like everything else. The other fbi guy said they wouldn't disclose everything it could tarnish the case. I'm curious
I read a book by Mr Fitzgerald. It was very illuminating, and well written. Thanks for posting!
Why can't even the experts ever admit that they can be born that way. Sometimes things go wrong during gestation and it's not always just physical. They are born missing something in their brain , it's not always childhood trauma . There's a huge genetic component!
"Lizzie Borden took an axe, gave her father 40 whacks. When she saw what she had done, gave her mother 41."
The jumprope jingle, the kids back then, sang.
She wasnt "a stabber".
Just a clarification ✌️.
I wish Megyn would make more commentary on her own without guests.
As someone who has been to the Pullman-Moscow area, I can tell you that there aren’t a lot of restaurants with Vegan items on the menu. When he moved to town he might have googled for vegan food and found Mad Greek. He had a history of asking waitresses creepy questions abou t where they live and what time their shift gets over. I don’t think he “snapped” at all. I think this has been a slow burn that he has been thinking about for a long time. Lots of anger about why he doesn’t feel “alive” or connected to other people. Anger about why girls don’t like him. Some arrogance and over confidence in his ability to commit a crime. The thrill of doing something depraved. He probably saw Xana and Maddie at Mad Greek and followed them home. At some point Kaylee was on his radar too as she and Maddie were inseparable and the two of them stood out in a crowd. He started driving by their house at night, enjoying the thrill of deviance. Eventually worked up the nerve to do what he has been thinking about for a long time. Another question: I noticed his face is really gaunt. Sunken-in eye sockets etc compared to pics of him at a younger age. The Sandy Hook killer had a super gaunt face with sunken in eye sockets. You see them all the time in mugshots of violent offenders. Is there a drug ( illegal or prescription) that causes this? Or a neurological condition? Is there correlation with violent thoughts and intentions?
How did bk know everyone was home that night? Could there be another person? When caught he asked if anyone else had been arrested.
good question about "the look"
He is a known heroin addict. B.K. could just be looking for a fix or delivering it. Alot of drive byes near the house that night. An overdose death was recorded at that house a few years back.
The gaunt face is the demon within. Pure evil. There is no "normal" thought with this monster. He is spiritually evil. God rest their souls 😢
School should be a safe place to be and learn. They should come down hard on bullying so students can feel safe there. Bullying can't be stopped but can be addressed better than it is today. But that's no excuse for what happened.
Public schools have always had and will always have bullying.
@@hkschubert9938 You think private schools don’t have bullying ROFLMAO It might be even worse as children believe they are somehow entitled…
@@lottnio8207 in my private schools the nuns would beat the crap out of you if you bullied God's children.
Not saying innocent or guilty but, unfortunately this man will not get a fair trial due to all the media coverage. It seems he's already convicted by the media.
He left a trail a mile long
What is a “ fair trial “ for a psychopathic killer ? This guy is either completely stupid OR he actually wanted to get caught . His own DNA on the knife sheath next to a dead body . A person having witnessed a person in the hallway matching his description . A footprint outside the room
His Elantra seen outside the house early in the morning before and after the crime ... after speeding away
Then returning to the crime scene at 0900
The mobile telephone pings
The mobile telephone being turned off at the time the crime was occurring
This man Bryan Kohberger has painted himself into a corner
The media have done nothing but report facts
He's convicted by his own utter stupidity
@Gabrielle Andrew A fair trial for anyone in this country is one where the jury has not already decided that person's guilt or innocence. The accused is presumed innocent until PROVEN guilty in a court of law (not assumed guilty in the media). You could not be on the jury.
We can speculate till the cows come home but no one will ever know what the hell ANY MURDER thinks or feels!! Shouldn’t be done!!
Interesting speculation. It will be even more interesting to see what the PA State Police and Idaho State Police uncover as they pour over all of the intricate details of Kohberger's historical digital trail. We'll find out so much from that - how far all of this goes back and whether or not he chose Washington / Idaho as an ideal location for him to commit these abhorrent crimes.
In case anyone ever wondered about Ted Bundy's birth, he was born in an Orphanage. No mother was there to nurture him, to look into his eyes and say I love you. Ted lived in the Orphanage for 3 months till his grandparents came and got him. Imagine being an infant screaming your head off and no one answers you. Then as an adult you are dead inside.
This is not true about Ted Bundy. People invent stories like this. Ted Bundy's mom like most unwed girls in her generation was sent to give birth at an institution so other people would not see her pregnant and those institutions helped teach these girls how to be mothers. After having the baby she went back to live with her parents with her baby. Ted Bundy's mom raised him, remarried, had more children so he had siblings, lived with her in a house having his own bedroom and she was even there at his trials. She is on video discussing how much she loves him while he was being accused. He was never at an orphanage. Ever. She told him she loved him often. His personality had nothing to do with this false story of being abdandoned. ua-cam.com/video/-MoIGxmBbVQ/v-deo.html&ab_channel=CarolDaRonch
@@MsDrSantana I am correct! Ted was left without Mom. Grandparents came after 3 months. No nurturing!
You are making an argument that all orphans will be mad or violent. This isn't the case.
He couldn't have been screaming for his mother if he never knew his mother. Whose version of this story is this ? His ?
His grandparents raised him, and his mother lived with them as Ted’s sister.
The nonstop coverage and speculation is bound to create another psycho
Well done
Megyn Kelly has been, is, and will always be a Class Act journalist/Mother/Wife....GOD Bless
In his alleged posts on line he mentions ED. This felt more like a school shooting perpetrator, feelings of humiliation or shame
He hasn’t even gone to trial yet. Let’s hope he can get a fair trial.
Did he say the knife sheath "had his blood on it" ? I knew it had dna on it, but had never heard it was his blood.
It was DNA
Touch DNA
Touch DNA on the metal snap. Why do psychiatrists/ psychologists always sound crazy themselves? This guy doesn't even know what little has been made public, yet he is considered expert enough to be interviewed? The whole thing is just dumb.
@@Megaconcerned100 Yes - I've only heard reporting that it was BK's "touch DNA" on the snap of the sheath - that's why I was questioning that he referred to the sheath having BK's "blood" on it, which is not the same as touch DNA.
@@CherubChick1221 Yes - I've only heard reporting that it was BK's "touch DNA" on the snap of the sheath - that's why I was questioning that he referred to the sheath having BK's "blood" on it, which is not the same as touch DNA.
The guy couldn't find a girl on the out side, but if convicted and serves time he in fact will finally have a long line of women that will now find him attractive and will want to have a relationship with him. Some one should be addressing this idea.
If that was the motive it’s maybe not a good idea to kill 4 people. He’ll get a life sentence or death so quite likely he won’t have much opportunities to date. But there will be women writing him and wanting to meet him in prison. Notorious murderers always have people who are attracted to them.
Living in uae. Followed the chris watts case from the begining..n now he has so many women writing to him.. so i guess u r right .
@@lottnio8207 the state doesn't have the death penalty so he will get what he always longed for, women that find him exciting.
You are so jealous of him
@@urvashipatel5214 I don't know if I'm right, just an interesting thing to address. I bet he already has a group of women writing to him this minute. He's finally getting what he always wanted.
Something I think is kind of weird. His mom wrote some kind of a commentary and published it were people could read it about Ted Bundy obsessed or very into his story. His sister when she was younger within a movie where young people we're attacked and slaughtered with a knife. So what was going on about all this craziness and his family
first time mother and son apart....
I've wondered the identical thing. There are occasions where there's seemingly nothing in the background that appears connected to later violent acts but usually there is something. Based on his writings this guy was very sick very early. It's likely that there's a lot we don't yet know. People have a public persona and a private one. We might not yet have heard about the private lives. Two bankruptcies, the Bundy interest and the slasher movie, standing alone, certainly don't sound much like a typical family.
I think it was more of a challenge. The idea to become the best criminal mastermind and also to go beyond just getting inside of a criminal head but instead embody the criminal. He probably was inspired by shows like Dexter. I think the idea came first and then he looked for a victim that would get national media attention.
Yes and to get revenge on the girls ego ignored him on Instagram too! This was a angry lash out crime of passion overkill!
Would you do a broadcast on Jack the Ripper with Christer Holmgren and Edward Stow…in reference to the current overwhelming geographical and circumstantial evidence, linking Charles Lechmere to the Ripper and Thames Torso murders.
I think maybe, one of the 4 Student,s somehow somewhere Mocked him, real or perceived??
@The_Megyn_Kelly. You're a scammer 😂😂😂
I read somewhere that he used to eat at a restaurant that 2 of the girls worked at, possibly some kind of interaction there?
Or he knew the victims' lifestyle from their insta pages. The victims had the life he always wanted. He was jealous, he hated them with all his heart.
How about he is just evil? Stop demonizing incels and giving reasons why he dd it.
Most analysts seem to assume Kohberg set out to kill 3 or perhaps all 4 of the victims. What if he planned to slip in, kill his one target, and leave? Instead when he goes to the room of the target, he finds 2 girls there -- one of whom was just back for a visit and was sharing the room because she had sold her own furniture. One person he could likely kill without a struggle; two meant noise and tumult. On the way out he encounters those alerted by the tumult, Ethan and Xana, and kills them to eliminate witnesses and impediments to his escape. Had Maddie been the only victim, the police would have focused on her boyfriend, and if he had an alibi, on others who knew her. There would have been no major media hoohah, no State Police, no FBI. Kohberger's planning might have been much more "successful", with fewer forensic mistakes, and his motive much simpler, with one victim. Not saying that was the case -- just offering food for thought.
I think they are lesbians. The pictures shown that clearly. Ex boyfriend probably did the killing. Imagine losing your girl to a girl ? Talk about humiliation. Bryan did heroin and bought from drug house at 1122 is my take. SIGMA CHI drug store. Parties and open door leave alot of possibilities. WHERE'S THE MASSIVE BLOOD EVIDENCE ? No way. It would be everywhere. His car would be tainted.
Ted Bundy stated that these kinds of murderers tend to erupt in their late 20s.
Most Serial Killers are White males 25 to 35 years old. They usually start by killing small animals like dogs and cats when they are teenagers. They are obsessive and they fantasize a lot. Ted Bundy was living a double life. He was living with his girlfriend and her daughter. He would go out and kill women then go back to her. He never hurt the girlfriend. They took Bundy's brain after he was executed to study it. They didn't find anything unusual about his brain 🧠 which is odd.
No empathy! No remorse!
This profiler's description of Bryan and the reasons he did these terrible things makes sense. At first glance, Bryan looks like a student in business school or some other advanced professional school. However, his creepiness is revealed sooner or later.
I just don't understand how no one called 911? They had to have heard.
Great interview!
I had never heard anyone interviewed mentioned about the horrible and violent video games the millennials and generation x have on their video games playlist they play while growing up…so much exposure to ideas of various violence to that eventually makes them a monster in time most especially those who are very vulnerable with mental issues! It all began with duck hunt shooting.. then they progress each generations… knives, bombs, aka, etc knives attacks! This society is full of mental people and violence already… highlighted by violent video games!
Exactly...I bet he lived in front of video games
What I would like to hear discussed is what the times were like back in "the Golden age" of serial killers, when they first started to emerge as if like some kind of social contagion was sweeping through the world.
I would like to hear about a comparison of what psychology suggests for the cause of it, then compared to how society is acting now and the similarities between those two eras in time. It seems to me that we have replicated that situation that made all of those serial killers back in the 60's and what I find really scary is that this time around society is even more screwed up at the moment then it was back then when it was making these serial killers. Now we have school shootings, a recession, a lack of nuclear family, a lack of resources, etc, and all of it is amplified by the internet. I think this loser is just one of many that we will sadly have to clean up after, thanks to the insanity of social media and the country as a while. It's not looking good. Even if Megan doesn't do a deep dive into this, I suggest that the rest of your viewers do a little research on what caused the Golden age of Serial Killers then come back and comment whether or not you think there should be a cause for concern. It really is bothersome to say the least.
Agree, people are bonkers now and the internet caters to them.
There's no golden age of serial killers, thats a catch phrase that crime historians like to try and use to captivate people like you. There has been horrific crimes like this ongoing throughout time. If there was any up tick in crime during that period, was because there was no camera surveillance at that time, and a upswing in technology and society change. Things like bigger cities more businesses more jobs more transportation more culture more parties loser morals but yet all the same time people still trusting in the good of humanity before they got a rude awakening. More aggressive sexualized music more violent images coming from your news media just like these leech's in this case trying to beat a dead horse for views. This coverage of this case in the way they have overdone it will ultimately cause copy cats in the future. You can blame Netflix and Hulu as well, promoting shows like YOU and Dahmer. This is where these kids are getting their ideas not the golden age your speculating on. Look at what you called it! Golden! You are honoring these monsters with your speech..this is why we have more interest in this subject.
I know the profiles of serial killers of the "Golden age" no longer apply. We have people with all kinds of backgrounds committing horrific crimes, and I completely agree with your analysis.
I forget the name of the book but the library had an awful true story about an ax murderer who rode the trains in the 1800s. The authors tried to identify him. The police back then of course didn't have phones etc
@@jdoe3487 I agree. Here's an even more disturbing story that I believe actually happened recently. There was a bunch of videos and articles on it but only a few are leaft online still. Apparently a few years ago right before the pandemic hit, over in Japan a technology group were working on some new AI technology in their lab. Specifically building automated robot units. These robots were designed to self evolve and write their own script or gameplay. So apparently at some point the robots started to malfunction or not shut off when they were supposed to. They started to write their own survival data code in defense of being shutdown or something. As the engineers and lab workers tried to disable them or shut them down the robots started freaking out. According to the news article a group of 4 robots in the lab killed 29 people. Look it up it's apparently a true story! Seriously creepy terminator type stuff, this is the type of bizarre modern world we may one day live in!
Did any of the victims scream. I haven't heard?
No they did not scream.
Miss Dylan reported no screams.
Just the dog barking and Xana crying.
Those were the only sounds.
Most likely Mattie & Kaylee & Ethan were asleep when killed & Xana was away in the bathroom & didn't notice Kohberger killing the 3 of them.
Amazing guest.
Difference is, you did these questions WITH the professor, which this offender did not, rather going it alone. He’s creepy.
Soon they will have an explanation for every possibly reason, then you'll have to start to be reasonable about what you say. There isn't anything that is being said that we cant shut down.
There's no proof showing this guy was an incel......also, he's a person of interest and has not been charged yet. No, I'm not a BK supporter by any streth of the imagination but I do have enough patience to wait for the evidence to be shown. You should be more professional in your dissemination of information regarding this case. imho
Speculating that there was Yelling and Screaming - no account of that ANYWHERE. This guy is just shooting from the hip.
I agreed He thought He will commit the perfect crime, and be free.
And what we have here is a very strange bird commenting on a strange bird.
He was a bad seed from the start, he was destined for trouble.
All unnecessary speculation. You have already convicted him before a trial. It may be very likely that he committed the murders but let’s let the legal system work. Very unprofessional to create a notion of certainty before a trial.
Don’t compare this guy with UB… 😤
I think he decided to study crime cos he needed to know how to get away with murder. He knew he was going to become a murderer. He was looking for loopholes and information which could help him escape justice for his crimes.
Do we need to offer social/communications classes starting in middle school to help kids?
6:48 Why did Kolberger bring his phone to the murder scene? Should have left his phone at home.
Because Kohberger is a stupid inexperienced novice killer.
He should have left his phone at home turned on.
He should have stolen a car and used that for the murders.
He should have mounted his knife on his belt.
He should not have left Miss Dylan alive.
He should not have returned to the crime scene later that day.
If he had done all that then he would not have been caught right away.
Within a couple of weeks LEOs had his car, his driver's license, his cell phone, and everything needed to get an arrest warrant.
Shouldn't have murdered anyone
@@tamimoncrief2264 you missed the point. BK was trying to commit the perfect undetectable crime like Zodiac.
Why didn't Kohberger take a few years off from school?
He could've addressed his problem through therapy or by hanging out with family or friends and focusing on finding a girlfriend. His friends and family could've helped him to meet someone. Sometimes support from others can make dating easier. If he was getting rejected why not ask other guys for help in that area. His friends and family could've hooked him up with someone who was his type that would've been interested in him. If his strategy with women wasn't working he should've asked other guys with girlfriends for help.
So much for getting your life together. I don't think we have the whole story. To me he's unlikely to commit this crime.
Hello Pauline
How are you doing today?
There's more to this case, people are thinking about it examine everything.
That’s obvious. They have not published everything yet be we need to wait until the trial.
Lost all respect after the 'attempt' to bring down the president at the debate. Will never forget the anger I had that night.
This is terrifying
We have known all this information already now, for quite some time
He was obsessed with these girls, and they probably rejected and made fun of him, which lead to him holding grudges and killing them.
Jason Friday the 13th style
He was NUTTTSSSSSSS! That's allll
I wonder is anything on his background true? There's so much speculation...this guy sitting here saying he's probably watching Rope etc etc 🤣🤣🤣 imagine he's just a straight laced studious hardworking pleasant guy, who is an introvert. Nothing is fact here or anywhere else until we actually have the facts 🤣🤣🤣
Why am I paying for “UA-cam Premium”? I’m still having to listen to creators hocking olive oil. Why?