Guys it’s over. I’m hearing his condition has worsened and will likely not make it. At least he went out saving another man from that horrific explosion. A true hero
If Eddie Kingston hadn't sold the botch and Kenny would've came out laughing, I think they could've saved it. The match itself was awesome and it really sucks that this will go up there with Hogans fireball spot as an infamous botch.
It's comparable to that Terry Funk match where the big explosion didn't go off, and Funk just looked up with his arms out, like he was literally saying WHY, GOD, WHY?
this is honestly the worst thing about this. so the bomb didnt go off, big deal. but it not going off and Kingston selling it completely ruined an awesome moment that couldve brought me to tears tbh.
@@tc5064 I don’t even think Kingston was selling it I think he and moxley were talking and cursing so he just laid there, keep in mind also explosives do have delayed reactions sometimes
That statement from Moxly going viral isn't helping the situation at all rather degrading a bad situation even more. Eddie already sold it like he died
Moxley should had never said that considering the story was he got his ass beat so bad that his former friend had to cover him from destruction and he just shit on the selling, it wasn't his place to talk about what happen as it wasn't his fault since he and omega did their part but it should been tony kahn since he approve the match and is the one overall responsible for the show he should be the one talking to the people
The other three Barbed Wire Death matches I’ve seen were The Great Suzuki one and the Hiyabusa one, and they were both infinitely better matches because everything was well done and they both had satisfying conclusions.
@@christophermarang.3569 This actual match was better in my.opiniom then those all the barb wire spots were good. After the match was a disaster with the final explosion but the actual match itself coudlent of went better people just ripping it apart because of what happened after the match which is unfortunate
@@omegaman6494 Ring collapses aren't easy. WWE pulls them off because they have a best in class production team that are respected around the world. A company that botches pyro like this is not a company in any position to do a competent ring collapse. I say this as an AEW fan as well. They have a long long long way to go before they pull off the technical gymnastics needed to setup and time a ring collapse if they can't even get pyro right.
I'm unapologetically an AEW fan. Having said that, it was very disappointing the prop malfunction ruined what was a very entertaining Main Event. I felt horrible for Moxley and Omega because they laid it out there. The worst part was the COMMENTARY reaction to the "explosion". They'll get through this, but the sour taste will linger for a bit.
MANNNNN I was dying for commentary AND Kingston to pull an audible and go for the "What the hell happened?" reaction instead. It only made it worse that they kept behaving as though a nuke had just detonated lol. Tough spot for everyone involved.
I'm sure Moxley and Kingston are LIVID about that. But I can say that Kingston might have sold because he felt absolutely drained after that scary spot which is what left him motionless. Only "way out" of that spot that I could think. If this is any good, hire me Tony Khan, I know you read these
@@gqn2 granted, when it was said and done Eddie was the MVP of the night. it should wouldve been easier for everybody to build it as if it was a dud and not the mega explosion......hell, even Kane's ring explosions were better back in the 2000
Man, if only he hadn't had to cover his eyes and ears, he would have seen what a dud the "explosion" was and probably called an audible to no-sell it. Because he didn't see the actual sparklers, he didn't know what he was reacting to, so he just had to sell it blind and ended up looking silly. Not his fault.
@@mikeydoc11 Wasn't Eddie covering Mox's face with his body? And Mox would have at least closed his eyes. If you're expecting shit to start blowing up around you, you don't look at it.
@@ArcaneAzmadi ah come on, the reaction was zero, the atmosphere left the room, if them lads couldn’t tell how bad it was, eyes closed or not, they need a new job
No that was their jumping the shark moment. No coming back from this. Jumping the shark refers to Happy Days, cause Happy Days was the biggest show on TV, then they did an episode where Fonz jumps a shark on his motorcycle, and it killed the show. So now jumping the shark refers to anything that ruins something forever. For example, Bob Dylan putting down his acoustic and picking up an electric guitar and getting booed off stage, and was never the same after that. I think a lot of the fans e gonna walk away after this and not return. Maybe someone will get Chuck Cunninghamed for this failure. Chuck Cunningham is also a reference from Happy Days and refers to a character disappearing. Chuck Cunningham was on like the first 1 or 2 episodes and was never seen again, so now when a TV character goes away they call it the Chuck Cunningham syndrome. So on incident seen them jump the shark, and will likely get someone Chuck Cunninghamed.
This was AEWs "Mae Young gives birth to a hand" moment. What a joke. I hope NJPW watched this and rethinks their relationship. Any involvement with AEW will dilute the product.
@@MJ_Weaver the botch there was that a no dq match that can be won only by pinfall or submission ended with a dq But I don’t understand why the guy mentioned it since they are totally unrelated
Tony Schiavone tells a story of someone backstage saying “they work hard,” to which Ole (or Sullivan, can’t remember exactly) replied “yeah, so does my plumber”
They’re both trying to protect and explain this as much as possible. They refuse to say this was a fuckup, just “lessons to be learned” by guys they’re friends with. If this was Impact or WWE they’d both laugh for days
AEW can still salvage the Eddie sell because the man thought he was gonna get blown up so passing out from that stress could be believed, but they got the uphill battle of a lifetime to try and salvage this storyline Tragic but shit happens
@@suprcrzy Well throwing yourself into what was supposed to be a life or death situation is a level of stress most of us can't really fathom, especially if they play up the mental conflict Eddie had that compelled him to protect Mox
The Paul Heyman handcuff botch was so much more tame, yet Alvarez treated that like the worst thing that’s ever happened in wrestling history. This laughably bad “explosion” is treated as an unfortunate hiccup. At least try to hide your biases even a tiny amount guys
@@WxWmartinWxW it the grand scheme of things it is little. We're not going to remember this forever unless you're a hater. But normal people will forget this happened in a couple months.
Kenny and Callis should have came back out on the stage and laughed their asses off since they "knew" that the explosion wouldn't have been big since it was assumed Kenny made it.
They wouldn't because they don't have skill set to improvise. Modern wrestlers only do what has been thoroughly planned out beforehand. Anything goes wrong and they have no idea what to do other than to retry spots that they botched instead of moving on.
That was the first time in two years of watching every single aew event that I heard the fans booing and demanding a refund I've never heard that in two years I've watched every single event that was terrible I woke up with a bad taste in my mouth from that pay-per-view unfortunately if anybody was introduced to wrestling last night well I don't think they want to be your friend anymore because that was embarrassing
And this is AEW fans who are about as cult like as the ECW crowd (only ECW had an enjoyable product). Any negative criticism of anything AEW did meant you were marked as a WWE plant (even refusing to believe New Japan fans hated the product). Even they booed and chanted refund.
Dave nailed it: the STORY was great. When Eddie came out, I thought "Jesus, that's brilliant!" But because of how it flopped... man, my heart just SANK. It made me legit depressed. I wasn't laughing. I was thinking "Aw man, that is SUCH a shame! That was so great up until then!" Also Dave nailed the other point: yeah it was a bad ending to the PPV, but at least it was an _accident._ They didn't _book it_ to be crap, unlike some companies I could refstoppageinahellinacellmatch-I mean name.
Tony Khan said afterwards “I don’t know what people expected” So that’s khan saying that last display WAS the planned finish Stop making excuses it was a dud ( pun intended ) and aew should take the heat for it But we know they can’t take criticism well
Here's a question Why didn't they get someone from Japan who designed these types of matches in the 70s (when they looked really painful and all) work on this from beginning to finish and test it out the day before they did it? They have the money. Are they just that ****in' cheap when it comes to giving quality?
Say what you want about the ending.. how it was disappointing kind of a let down / botch. (I'm not arguing / defending that it wasn't.) But that fact they are using the botch (or plan all along) and working it into a storyline is pretty smart. Can't wait for Eddie Kingston's promo on weds.
Vince is right about that. Reminds me of HIAC 2019. A great opening match between Sasha Banks and Becky Lynch is largely forgotten because of how awful the Seth Rollins vs. The Fiend main event was.
Let's quote the delusional old man whose been delivering the drizzling shits of a product for well over a decade now. Personally I'll remember the best cinematic match ever done to this date, the street fight.
@@ingloriousmax That’s fine with me. it was a good PPV but it will forever be associated with that botched finish. That’s all people will think about just like HIAC 2019 with the Fiend and Seth Rollins finish
@@gwalker9492 that's what you'll remember not what people will remember. People will remember what they wish to remember, which again is going to be that street fight. Set the level for how great a cinematic match can be, it was pretty much truly a movie.
AEW has jumped the shark.... I’m not a big hater of AEW but if WWE had pulled this, Bryan and Dave would have had no mercy... but here we have to here about how AEW “tried”
I feel so bad about this. The match was fantastic until that point and this would have built up Eddie as a future top guy. The match deserved that huge explosive ending
I think a lot of us secretly discovered our love for explosions in this match...and something is really wrong with me for wanting Eddie and Mox to explode in the end...lol
I kind of wish WWE did a cinematic version of this match. We'd see prosthetic limbs fly across the screen with an eyeball on the ground and then on Raw the next day they'd come out asking for a rematch.
@@dranzerjetli5126 things happen in Live shows, AEW is a new company with only over 2 years of existing, this will be a learning experience all wrestling companies has their highs and lows
@@ajmurtagh27 and that's the problem. The fact that it wasn't a big explosion but eddie sold it like it was. My brother and I agree that had eddie gotten right up after then the segment could have been salvaged
They have no one to blame but themselves. Look at the crap WWE has already done thinking nothing could be worse than Miz being champion or "my hole" this year, and AEW basically said "hold my beer".
It was dogshit. If WWE did this they would be crucifying them. They could easily have trialled another ring to make sure it looked good or even have the ring collapse like the Lesnar & Big show superplex. The card didn't live upto the hype.
The match was good not great. Not as great as their match at Full Gear. I think because since the match is surrounded by Barbed Wire, they make only limited moves. No springboard or Irish whips. But still they delivered. Got a 4-star rating from me though.
Don't let the flat finish distract you from the good parts of this show - a fun ladder match, a great women's match, the Darby/Sting cinematic match, and hell, the Mox/Omega match itself was pretty awesome. AEW will try to make things right with its fans, as opposed to WWE, which will just coast no matter what the fans want.
@@Bennyforeverandever Sat there and watched the entire PPV. Like Dave and Bryan said, that last image is what you’ll remember about the PPV. Nobody sane is shitting on the entire show. We are criticizing the part that actually needs to be criticized. You guys sound like the WWE fans who don’t like any negative comments on their favorite company. Stop.
@@Bennyforeverandever Nah dude,if you're going to evaluate you take in account everything.The moat important part part is the finish,Im independant enough to know that even if I like something I can criticize it whenever it deserves the criticism like in this case
Yeah, I disagree a ton with people's harshness towards this PPV, especially when All Out 2020 was a considerably sloppier and worse show. I think a lot of people who already don't care for the company or really were only interested in the the spectacle are going to have a field day with this one botch, but anyone pretending this is TNA or WCW stuff is ridiculous. It's a botch after a damn good main event. It happens and you're allowed to dislike it, but I absolutely think people are extending their dissatisfaction with one spot to a show that deserves a lot better.
WWE has earned all the bad press they get because the stupid shit they do is intentional and pretty much spiteful in motivation from Vince. This wasn't intentional and AEW deserves the benefit of the doubt because they have earned it even in their short existence. They have continually over delivered and had one bad night. They will pick themselves up and move on.
All the WWE shills had a million excuses for Paul Heyman not uncuffing Roman and the referee stopped counting and killing any suspension of belief. That was even worse then the pyro fuckup today and it didn’t get half as much noise as this.
They could flip the story about Kingston He wasn't selling the explosion, the terror that his friend was about to die gave him a mild heart attack. Boom done.
@@boblablaw1939 Why he didn't say it was perfect with no flaws just that a lot of wrestlers put on some good performances yea its not good to give uncritical love boners but being overly negative is just as bad
I about cried out of excitement when I saw Eddie Kingston run out in a panic to save Mox. I was cheering and screaming at my freinds who didn't know what was going on. 😆 I feel bad for the pyro but that was one of my favorite moments ever!
“I’m not trying to defend this, but....” What people say when they’re defending it. Where is the “Eye For An Eye” energy with this??? Just be consistent in your criticism. It’s all we ask.
Same, i realised that all the efforts from the previous matches would not be talked about and imo the street fight should've been talked about but now its just all about this
I thought at first that it was supposed to be a throwback to the Cactus Jack vs Terry Funk exploding ring match from 1995 where the same thing happened, and then there'd be a proper explosion after. The best way I can think of to explain the Eddie Kingston deal is for him to say he thought the whole time there was going to be a genuine explosion any second, so he stayed protecting Moxley the whole time.
I was there in person: During the sting match, they were setting up the ring, and they were having a problem setting up the barbed wire and ring posts. I think they didn’t have enough time to set up the final explosion.
@@petersutherland8694 Yeah, big AEW fan but they should've just called an audible when Kenny one and have him and the Brothers beat the shit out of Mox until Kenny made the save then attack him too. Don't mention that the bombs will still go off at 30 minutes.
Thanks for that insight, Nathan That can indeed explain why the bomb effects were so underwhelming through most of the match, as well as the final explosion
They handle aew with such kid gloves..if this was any other promotion the criticism would be so much worse. I really have a hard time listening anymore
Bryan would 100% be harsher on this if WWE did it. He's so bias to make AEW work because he's pissed off with WWE and desperate for AEW to beat them. With shit like this it's never going to happen.
A lot of people have said this on Twitter, and it’s quite an easy save, you just have to say that omega botched it, and that Eddie kingston passed out because he thought they were going to die. It ain’t perfect’ but it’s better than saying it was a huge explosion.
Yeah sure it would have worked if omega would have come out directly after the match taunting moxley but aew just cannot make it work This is were wwe shines. Aew cannot hustle.
I thought that ring “explosion” was a prank by Kenny Omega. Then I realized it was supposed to be real. I thought of it as a Joker flag in the gun. BANG!
I was thinking the exact same thing. Until, Eddie Kingston and Moxley continued to sell it. Underwhelming ending to what I thought was a great story, main event and all around PPV.
I was similar I thought they were going for a dud angle when the explosion went off and I kept waiting for Eddie to get up and after the commentators started making the heat excuses I was like fuck they are actually going for this 😂
What do you mean:"when it explodes its done you cant put back the firecracker?" Dude,they can buy extra explosives and test the explosives before the match. The first time we sent a rocket with a living creature they sent a dog(cruel I know)not a human to see if it worked
What he means is that after you "test" a firework, you can't use THAT FIREWORK. The gunpowder has already exploded. You can use another one supposedly identical to it, but THAT one might turn out to be a dud.
Exactly what the last guy said. You can get two fireworks of the same type from the same factory made by the same guys, and you can have one explode as normal and one be a dud.
@@ArcaneAzmadi The chances of that happening are very slim especially of you take the care to buy from someone with a good reputation.They failed where mant smaller companies succeded,LET'S ACCEPT THAT
@Bruce Michael going into a fight and covering a friend or loved from an explosion assuming you'll die are drastically different scenarios. I imagine most people, in the stress, would pass out before the explosions engulf them. Kingston is no different I'm sure so that explanation can work for him
@Bruce Michael I'm not saying it's an epic fuckup. Yes he absolutely could have pulled Mox out of the ring in time, but the spot depended on them staying in the ring so that's why he didn't do that. It's heartbreaking that the moment ended with a dud explosion. That idea above is the only solution I feel to explain Kingston's selling
Spin it, Dave! This was their fault. Their fault for thinking this was a good idea. The way the match came together also made no sense. Booker of the year.
Listen guys I prefer AEW to WWE, so don't @me... But if we can't admit that we're not holding AEW to the same standards we hold WWE to, then we ARE just AEW marks/shills. This was bad. For several reasons. Quit making excuses. Pussyfooting around the mistakes this company makes isn't going to help bring the necessary improvements anytime soon. Call a spade a spade. This. Was. Bad. Unforgivable? No. But undoubtedly bad execution of a bad idea.
Stupid CZW stip completely ruined the whole thing. Keep backyard shit in the backyard. The whole thing, even the exploding barbed wire looked so hokey. If they'd had a really great standard match with out any interference, they'd have got a much better reception.
That ‘explosion’ is what I’d have imagined would happen if Orange Cassidy won a title 😂😂
That’s perfect
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This explosion was just as phony as pockets shin kicks
Nobody would complain
Oh. My. God! 🤣
RIP Kingston, I hope he’s ok after that devastating explosion
Farty ring post sparklers are the second leading cause of death in America.
it wasn't devastating at all,it was just sparkles lol
You are very good at detecting sarcasm
Guys it’s over. I’m hearing his condition has worsened and will likely not make it. At least he went out saving another man from that horrific explosion. A true hero
@@PunjabiPlayboy it's fake,wrasslin ain't real fool
If Eddie Kingston hadn't sold the botch and Kenny would've came out laughing, I think they could've saved it. The match itself was awesome and it really sucks that this will go up there with Hogans fireball spot as an infamous botch.
thats exactly what they should of done
I think Eddie could salvage this easily. All he has to do Wednesday is come out and claim he was in shock that he hadn’t died in the “blast”
The commentators were way worse.
@@TheGoonhole So he was shock to sparkling things??😂
Shock Master levels of bad
"Exploding rings that don't explode are the shits" - Ole Anderson
"AEW are the shits" - Ole Anderson
I actually laughed out loud.. Ole caught me off guard.
I am so sad this happened. It completely overshadowed Eddie saving a former friend. 😞
It's comparable to that Terry Funk match where the big explosion didn't go off, and Funk just looked up with his arms out, like he was literally saying WHY, GOD, WHY?
Sure did. Those sparklers could have caused all kinds of damage to poor Mox!!
this is honestly the worst thing about this. so the bomb didnt go off, big deal. but it not going off and Kingston selling it completely ruined an awesome moment that couldve brought me to tears tbh.
@@tc5064 I don’t even think Kingston was selling it I think he and moxley were talking and cursing so he just laid there, keep in mind also explosives do have delayed reactions sometimes
@@Kenny-Blankenship I wish more people knew about this. Shit happens
"Kenny Omega may be a tough son of a bitch, but he can’t make an exploding ring worth a sh*t!” - Moxely after the show
Cringe.
While Kingston is selling like he was in the middle of the Chernobyl blast
That statement from Moxly going viral isn't helping the situation at all rather degrading a bad situation even more. Eddie already sold it like he died
Moxley should had never said that considering the story was he got his ass beat so bad that his former friend had to cover him from destruction and he just shit on the selling, it wasn't his place to talk about what happen as it wasn't his fault since he and omega did their part but it should been tony kahn since he approve the match and is the one overall responsible for the show he should be the one talking to the people
@@splash8429 People will forget in a few weeks
Pfffft
That was the sound of the ring “exploding”.
@@alpha068 😆😆😆😆 that is impressive
@Kyroh Rin not since I was 15
@@ryanpalmer7915 those are rookie numbers
Hahahaha
“It blew away the other barbed wire death match” just not literally
The other three Barbed Wire Death matches I’ve seen were The Great Suzuki one and the Hiyabusa one, and they were both infinitely better matches because everything was well done and they both had satisfying conclusions.
Agreed. The ending of this match negated the entire match itself, which is a shame.
The other ones looked brutal and looked far more dangerous
this was way better match, with a way better story. If the explosion was good, it would be #1. Instead, not.
@@christophermarang.3569 This actual match was better in my.opiniom then those all the barb wire spots were good. After the match was a disaster with the final explosion but the actual match itself coudlent of went better people just ripping it apart because of what happened after the match which is unfortunate
The finish could of been salvaged if they did a ring collapse , whether the explosion worked or not
That's a good idea. An explosion plus collapse ring would have been glorious, even with the botched explosion.
Why didn't they do a ring collapse??!
Lights off, heavy smoke, ring collapse. That woulda still been cheesy but woulda worked
yep thats what i thought.
@@omegaman6494 Ring collapses aren't easy. WWE pulls them off because they have a best in class production team that are respected around the world. A company that botches pyro like this is not a company in any position to do a competent ring collapse. I say this as an AEW fan as well. They have a long long long way to go before they pull off the technical gymnastics needed to setup and time a ring collapse if they can't even get pyro right.
I'm unapologetically an AEW fan. Having said that, it was very disappointing the prop malfunction ruined what was a very entertaining Main Event. I felt horrible for Moxley and Omega because they laid it out there. The worst part was the COMMENTARY reaction to the "explosion". They'll get through this, but the sour taste will linger for a bit.
MANNNNN I was dying for commentary AND Kingston to pull an audible and go for the "What the hell happened?" reaction instead. It only made it worse that they kept behaving as though a nuke had just detonated lol. Tough spot for everyone involved.
I'm sure Moxley and Kingston are LIVID about that. But I can say that Kingston might have sold because he felt absolutely drained after that scary spot which is what left him motionless. Only "way out" of that spot that I could think.
If this is any good, hire me Tony Khan, I know you read these
I think the worst part was that Eddie sold the dud explosion for 30 minutes. It wasn't his fault, though, because he didn't see it.
@@Heiteinah yeah that's what I was thinking. Like maybe he thought the ring was gonna explode so he had a heart attack.
At least they have 'journalists' like this to cover for them.
wouldve Eddie look up right after the explosion and try to keep salving Mox, that wouldve save, it kind of like "holys***, we still alive!!"
To be fair, Eddie couldn’t have know the explosion was a dud. They are in the ring so it sounded loud to them.
@@gqn2 granted, when it was said and done Eddie was the MVP of the night. it should wouldve been easier for everybody to build it as if it was a dud and not the mega explosion......hell, even Kane's ring explosions were better back in the 2000
well sometimes ya think its a dud then boom. i reckon that was what eddie thought.
Ring should have fell apart. Would have saved that shitty pyro. Lol
@@kennythetrend3688 i expect everything to be retcon on wednesday
i feel so so bad for eddie
He was most likely laying there thinking.... wtf should i do
Man, if only he hadn't had to cover his eyes and ears, he would have seen what a dud the "explosion" was and probably called an audible to no-sell it. Because he didn't see the actual sparklers, he didn't know what he was reacting to, so he just had to sell it blind and ended up looking silly. Not his fault.
@@ArcaneAzmadi it’s not like Mox wasn’t lying on his back taking it all in, he could’ve and should’ve told Eddie not to sell it
@@mikeydoc11 Wasn't Eddie covering Mox's face with his body? And Mox would have at least closed his eyes. If you're expecting shit to start blowing up around you, you don't look at it.
@@ArcaneAzmadi ah come on, the reaction was zero, the atmosphere left the room, if them lads couldn’t tell how bad it was, eyes closed or not, they need a new job
Hammer Tech?
What a reference lol
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😂😂😂
Acme.
Gillberg's entrance was the ending to the main event
Nobody seeing that Eddie covering Mox to shield him from the explosion was a throwback to Funk and Onita?
This match was chock full of good callbacks to Onita and Funk matches. This was my favorite one though, just sucks about the "bomb" lol.
@@JerseyEmpireGroup Their bomb wasn't much better
@@YoungBloodGinger Yeah it was
The problem is, he covered him from some children’s sparklers
@@HkFinn83 They weren't watching the explosions. They heard and sold like they should have.
It's almost like they are trying to prove Cornette right about everything he says about them 🤣
If wwe had done this meltzer would shred it completely he is so bias
Because he is right
This should make everyone realize how important those backstage producers and technicians are.
That was sad, it looked like a birthday cake ring.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Come on man how can the ring explode
@@LongHuynh-bx5ll ua-cam.com/video/TJEH0guo_EM/v-deo.html
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I was expecting Gilberg to come out with that entrance!
@@LongHuynh-bx5ll watch any japanese exploding barbed wire deathmatch and you will know.
That was AEW’s “Spinal Tap Moment” 🤣🤣🤣
That was my first thought 😂
No that was their jumping the shark moment. No coming back from this. Jumping the shark refers to Happy Days, cause Happy Days was the biggest show on TV, then they did an episode where Fonz jumps a shark on his motorcycle, and it killed the show. So now jumping the shark refers to anything that ruins something forever. For example, Bob Dylan putting down his acoustic and picking up an electric guitar and getting booed off stage, and was never the same after that. I think a lot of the fans e gonna walk away after this and not return. Maybe someone will get Chuck Cunninghamed for this failure. Chuck Cunningham is also a reference from Happy Days and refers to a character disappearing. Chuck Cunningham was on like the first 1 or 2 episodes and was never seen again, so now when a TV character goes away they call it the Chuck Cunningham syndrome. So on incident seen them jump the shark, and will likely get someone Chuck Cunninghamed.
@@chrisgullett4332 yeah.... I like it the way I said it better. 🤣
As you should. Everybody always likes the way they say things.
This was AEWs "Mae Young gives birth to a hand" moment. What a joke. I hope NJPW watched this and rethinks their relationship. Any involvement with AEW will dilute the product.
The Shockmaster now has competition for his title.
Conspiracy theory time. Sting was on both shows... I blame Sting.
so does the end of hiac 2019
@@mustaquimahmedtanbeer2437 What was the botch there?
@@mustaquimahmedtanbeer2437 and that is related to the video how
@@MJ_Weaver the botch there was that a no dq match that can be won only by pinfall or submission ended with a dq
But I don’t understand why the guy mentioned it since they are totally unrelated
I can only imagine Kingston’s reaction when he’s sees the explosion and how he sold it.
“Yeah it sucked but THEY STILL TRIED VERY HARD!” Cornette couldn’t be more right. Meltzer trying to suck up to the “cool” kids. LMAO!!!
Tony Schiavone tells a story of someone backstage saying “they work hard,” to which Ole (or Sullivan, can’t remember exactly) replied “yeah, so does my plumber”
the physical effects department probably got real suplexes and headlocks given to them after the show! poor guys. They only ruined the show...
By who? All the soy based wrestlers who get their feelings hurt over words 🤣
@@TheMartinTD who? what? where? when? why? Do tell......
They’re both trying to protect and explain this as much as possible. They refuse to say this was a fuckup, just “lessons to be learned” by guys they’re friends with. If this was Impact or WWE they’d both laugh for days
Exactly 💯%
AEW can still salvage the Eddie sell because the man thought he was gonna get blown up so passing out from that stress could be believed, but they got the uphill battle of a lifetime to try and salvage this storyline
Tragic but shit happens
Moxley addressed it afterwards and kingston will hopefully will talk about it on Wednesday
So Eddie Killer Kingston passed out because of stress? I like Eddie, but yea, no. Thats not his character.
@@suprcrzy Well throwing yourself into what was supposed to be a life or death situation is a level of stress most of us can't really fathom, especially if they play up the mental conflict Eddie had that compelled him to protect Mox
Street fighter passes out of fear?
Stroke heart attack cancer aids crack meth and heroin all those can salvage this.
Jim Cornette “outlaw mud show bullshit”
That's why Jim's view of wrestling post-'97 is over the hill.
Awful ending to a good ppv.
The PPV was good though, they delivered. Not a fan of their ending though.
The Paul Heyman handcuff botch was so much more tame, yet Alvarez treated that like the worst thing that’s ever happened in wrestling history. This laughably bad “explosion” is treated as an unfortunate hiccup. At least try to hide your biases even a tiny amount guys
Everybody judging the ppv off of that one little mess up but I thought the show was great.
WWE to AEW: First time?
Wasn't little
@@randylynch4330 huh?
@@WxWmartinWxW it the grand scheme of things it is little. We're not going to remember this forever unless you're a hater. But normal people will forget this happened in a couple months.
@@philo2189 the entire main event storyline set up for that exact finish and the finish botched....it is not little at all
Too bad the match was freaking great
@Aaron9 dont be salty dude
@Daniel Rodriguez you have to pay $50 in America? In England we pay about £15
@Daniel Rodriguez saturday's ufc was boring
@Daniel Rodriguez I just stayed off social media and watched it today for free. 🤷🏼♂️
@@251gonza better than shitty aew tho
"I dont wanna sound like Im defending this" Sure buddy sure
I know. Pathetic.
Kenny and Callis should have came back out on the stage and laughed their asses off since they "knew" that the explosion wouldn't have been big since it was assumed Kenny made it.
Absolute would have saved the embarrassment
They wouldn't because they don't have skill set to improvise. Modern wrestlers only do what has been thoroughly planned out beforehand. Anything goes wrong and they have no idea what to do other than to retry spots that they botched instead of moving on.
I've seen bigger explosions in a Kane entrance lol.. some funny shit from the dub.
Or a DDP entrance in WCW
If WWe did this they would say...”the bombs on the ropes were 2’ away from the ropes” typical double standard
That was the first time in two years of watching every single aew event that I heard the fans booing and demanding a refund I've never heard that in two years I've watched every single event that was terrible I woke up with a bad taste in my mouth from that pay-per-view unfortunately if anybody was introduced to wrestling last night well I don't think they want to be your friend anymore because that was embarrassing
And this is AEW fans who are about as cult like as the ECW crowd (only ECW had an enjoyable product). Any negative criticism of anything AEW did meant you were marked as a WWE plant (even refusing to believe New Japan fans hated the product). Even they booed and chanted refund.
@@Assenayo I miss the good ole days...ECW ECW ECW ECW ECW ECW ECW
Dave nailed it: the STORY was great. When Eddie came out, I thought "Jesus, that's brilliant!" But because of how it flopped... man, my heart just SANK. It made me legit depressed. I wasn't laughing. I was thinking "Aw man, that is SUCH a shame! That was so great up until then!"
Also Dave nailed the other point: yeah it was a bad ending to the PPV, but at least it was an _accident._ They didn't _book it_ to be crap, unlike some companies I could refstoppageinahellinacellmatch-I mean name.
Tony Khan said afterwards “I don’t know what people expected”
So that’s khan saying that last display WAS the planned finish
Stop making excuses it was a dud ( pun intended ) and aew should take the heat for it
But we know they can’t take criticism well
When you're expecting pyro and end up with Johnny B Bad spooters instead.....
Spooters!! I'm in a Bad Mood!!!! O-S-DUB!! O-S-DUB!!
Here's a question Why didn't they get someone from Japan who designed these types of matches in the 70s (when they looked really painful and all) work on this from beginning to finish and test it out the day before they did it? They have the money. Are they just that ****in' cheap when it comes to giving quality?
Say what you want about the ending.. how it was disappointing kind of a let down / botch. (I'm not arguing / defending that it wasn't.) But that fact they are using the botch (or plan all along) and working it into a storyline is pretty smart. Can't wait for Eddie Kingston's promo on weds.
Oh man..Eddie's promo
Its not brilliant. it would have been brilliant if omega or the good brothers would have come out mocking moxley
Eddie selling nothing hurts the credibility of that pivot but that's all they can do to salvage it.
He needs to tear a new one on production, what a bunch of idiots, using Omega as a scapegoat in kayfabe is not enough
“Pretty smart”?🤣🤣 you Aew fanboys are delusional
“The only thing they remember, is the finish”
Vince is right about that.
Reminds me of HIAC 2019. A great opening match between Sasha Banks and Becky Lynch is largely forgotten because of how awful the Seth Rollins vs. The Fiend main event was.
@@michaelsinger4638 Exactly
Let's quote the delusional old man whose been delivering the drizzling shits of a product for well over a decade now.
Personally I'll remember the best cinematic match ever done to this date, the street fight.
@@ingloriousmax That’s fine with me. it was a good PPV but it will forever be associated with that botched finish. That’s all people will think about just like HIAC 2019 with the Fiend and Seth Rollins finish
@@gwalker9492 that's what you'll remember not what people will remember. People will remember what they wish to remember, which again is going to be that street fight. Set the level for how great a cinematic match can be, it was pretty much truly a movie.
Let's be honest. If this happened in wwe, we would never hear the end of it.
AEW has jumped the shark.... I’m not a big hater of AEW but if WWE had pulled this, Bryan and Dave would have had no mercy... but here we have to here about how AEW “tried”
* Jim Cornette has entered the chat *
Meltzer is giving it 7 star review
I feel so bad about this. The match was fantastic until that point and this would have built up Eddie as a future top guy. The match deserved that huge explosive ending
The only thing this PPV accomplished was giving Maffew and Cornette material for weeks.
Funny how Cornette is proved right on everything AEW related & turds like Joey Ryan. Yet he is the 'toxic' one.
Yuck On the second one
@@daveborder7751 Cornette literslly spits racist shit lol
@@readeroftruths9113 He seems pretty left listening to his Trump/Republican rants & praising BLM.
@@daveborder7751 Racists exist on the left as well.......
I think a lot of us secretly discovered our love for explosions in this match...and something is really wrong with me for wanting Eddie and Mox to explode in the end...lol
This ending has been retconned more than a WWE storyline.
Yeah suddenly WWE 2021 looks as good as 2000 WWF compared to Awfully Embarrassing Wrestling 😂😂😂
Yeah, the damage control and justification from the AEW mark/stan fanbase has been ridiculous.
I kind of wish WWE did a cinematic version of this match. We'd see prosthetic limbs fly across the screen with an eyeball on the ground and then on Raw the next day they'd come out asking for a rematch.
Hahahaha dude they will do do that but man last nites explosion was bad
i want WWE to do that just to one up AEW at this point
@@FavaroLeone Gillberg coming out with pyro will one up that explosion
Alvarez: I'm not trying to defend this...
And then immediately starts defending it 🤣😅
I respected Alvarez and Tuna Meltzer for years, now they are the biggest marks for the worst aspects of wrestling
this is a great fair review 👍
i still love AEW, this will be a learning experience for AEW for this kinds of matches
Now it will be very embarrassing to mention aew to any casual when such things happen mostly.
@@dranzerjetli5126 well , shit happens in wrestling, that's it..
@@dranzerjetli5126 things happen in Live shows, AEW is a new company with only over 2 years of existing, this will be a learning experience
all wrestling companies has their highs and lows
So maybe I’m wrong, but I took it as Kingston not knowing if an explosion was eventually going to go off or not.
They rolled him off Moxley because he was "unconscious". Not good but he wasn't to know.
@@ajmurtagh27 and that's the problem. The fact that it wasn't a big explosion but eddie sold it like it was. My brother and I agree that had eddie gotten right up after then the segment could have been salvaged
Logic in the match? A guy got blasted in the head with an exploding bat and kicked out on 2. Great visual but in no way logical.
"The Worst Moment in Pro Wrestling 2021"
They have no one to blame but themselves. Look at the crap WWE has already done thinking nothing could be worse than Miz being champion or "my hole" this year, and AEW basically said "hold my beer".
It was dogshit. If WWE did this they would be crucifying them. They could easily have trialled another ring to make sure it looked good or even have the ring collapse like the Lesnar & Big show superplex. The card didn't live upto the hype.
the ring collapsing should have been a must!!
The match was great. What a shame the explosion didn't work out
u think 3 on 1 matches are great?
The match was good not great. Not as great as their match at Full Gear. I think because since the match is surrounded by Barbed Wire, they make only limited moves. No springboard or Irish whips. But still they delivered. Got a 4-star rating from me though.
Why are they saying this was a disaster? Look at that photo! There are sparklers, there's smoke, it's fantastic! It's like the 4th of July!
Don't let the flat finish distract you from the good parts of this show - a fun ladder match, a great women's match, the Darby/Sting cinematic match, and hell, the Mox/Omega match itself was pretty awesome. AEW will try to make things right with its fans, as opposed to WWE, which will just coast no matter what the fans want.
People want to be distracted by the flat finish. People want to hate on AEW so they only talk about their mistakes.
@@Bennyforeverandever Sat there and watched the entire PPV. Like Dave and Bryan said, that last image is what you’ll remember about the PPV. Nobody sane is shitting on the entire show. We are criticizing the part that actually needs to be criticized. You guys sound like the WWE fans who don’t like any negative comments on their favorite company. Stop.
It wasn't a great a women's match. The arena was quiet the entire match
@@Bennyforeverandever Nah dude,if you're going to evaluate you take in account everything.The moat important part part is the finish,Im independant enough to know that even if I like something I can criticize it whenever it deserves the criticism like in this case
Nobody even talk about WWE,the fact you had to bring WWE just shows your bias
Not even Dave can defend this bullshit the match itself was ok but that ending was the stupid thing ever
Kingston must have passed out laughing 😂
I never thought Gillberg will show up after the match.
Fantastic PPV, shame about the ending though 😬 lessons will be learnt.
Fantastic ???? Really
That ppv was shit and every match was long as hell
It was a good ppv
I'd rate it a 7.5/10
@@starbreaker269 lmao that ppv was 4.5/10
Yeah, I disagree a ton with people's harshness towards this PPV, especially when All Out 2020 was a considerably sloppier and worse show. I think a lot of people who already don't care for the company or really were only interested in the the spectacle are going to have a field day with this one botch, but anyone pretending this is TNA or WCW stuff is ridiculous. It's a botch after a damn good main event. It happens and you're allowed to dislike it, but I absolutely think people are extending their dissatisfaction with one spot to a show that deserves a lot better.
@@King390James every match is always long on aews ppvs that's nothing new . The event was great
That Cornette review is gonna be golden this week lol 😂🤣
He's gonna go to town on this
Meltzer Reviewed it 7 star
Ask yourselves, IF THIS HAPPENED IN WWE, WOULD THERE HAVE BEEN ANY EXCUSING IT??? DUD OR NO DUD..
Had this been the wwe they would have destroyed this
WWE has earned all the bad press they get because the stupid shit they do is intentional and pretty much spiteful in motivation from Vince. This wasn't intentional and AEW deserves the benefit of the doubt because they have earned it even in their short existence. They have continually over delivered and had one bad night. They will pick themselves up and move on.
bUt iTs aEw
All the WWE shills had a million excuses for Paul Heyman not uncuffing Roman and the referee stopped counting and killing any suspension of belief.
That was even worse then the pyro fuckup today and it didn’t get half as much noise as this.
@@Doctor_of_Fartiology Imagine all those people who were eagerly waiting for Shaq to fail punched air , are now out of hiding.
If this was Vince, these guys would rip it to peices. I like these guys, but please be consistent with ur criticism
They could flip the story about Kingston
He wasn't selling the explosion, the terror that his friend was about to die gave him a mild heart attack. Boom done.
Lame
I can't wait for Botchmania.
I still enjoyed the hell out of the show
You’re part of the problem
@@boblablaw1939 how dare he enjoy a wrestling show
@@boblablaw1939
How dare he still enjoy a wrestling show!!!
@@boblablaw1939 Why he didn't say it was perfect with no flaws just that a lot of wrestlers put on some good performances yea its not good to give uncritical love boners but being overly negative is just as bad
@@Frenik42 Thank you, you just explained Brian Alvarez and Dave Meltzer.
Sports based presentation
I about cried out of excitement when I saw Eddie Kingston run out in a panic to save Mox. I was cheering and screaming at my freinds who didn't know what was going on. 😆 I feel bad for the pyro but that was one of my favorite moments ever!
“I’m not trying to defend this, but....”
What people say when they’re defending it. Where is the “Eye For An Eye” energy with this??? Just be consistent in your criticism. It’s all we ask.
God I felt so bad when I saw that
Same, i realised that all the efforts from the previous matches would not be talked about and imo the street fight should've been talked about but now its just all about this
@@HM-aquila I liked the Street Fight though, it seems so badass.
I thought at first that it was supposed to be a throwback to the Cactus Jack vs Terry Funk exploding ring match from 1995 where the same thing happened, and then there'd be a proper explosion after. The best way I can think of to explain the Eddie Kingston deal is for him to say he thought the whole time there was going to be a genuine explosion any second, so he stayed protecting Moxley the whole time.
I was there in person: During the sting match, they were setting up the ring, and they were having a problem setting up the barbed wire and ring posts. I think they didn’t have enough time to set up the final explosion.
There’s an easy way to avoid this: Don’t book silly shit if you don’t know how to do it.
@@petersutherland8694 Yeah, big AEW fan but they should've just called an audible when Kenny one and have him and the Brothers beat the shit out of Mox until Kenny made the save then attack him too. Don't mention that the bombs will still go off at 30 minutes.
i had a bad feeling when the surrounding ringside area was so sparse. i was like guys where are all the "bombs" at?
Then why book this shit? Nobody asked for a death match anyway
Thanks for that insight, Nathan
That can indeed explain why the bomb effects were so underwhelming through most of the match, as well as the final explosion
"It was not intentional. It was not done out of stupidity, it just didnt work." Well said. People need to remember this.
God, that ending would've been GREAT if the explosion hadn't...not happened.
Rest in peace Kingston he was deathly allergic to sparklers lol
“We’re going to provide, a serious, sport-based product with the best wrestling" - Tony Khan
That was the biggest lie in wrestling
@@MrReganomics1 Khan is pretty good at this lying game now lol.
Seems right for AEW alot of flash no substance.
Bryan would have been laughing his ass off if WWE did this. Dave seemed to have a little more of a sense of humor about it though, so credit to him.
This type of foolishness will never happen in wwe
After watching AEW Revolution Ending, They should rename AEW Dynamite to AEW Sparkles
These 2 basically worship AEW and Tony Kahn. This PPV was one of the worst of all time and they won't even admit it.
They handle aew with such kid gloves..if this was any other promotion the criticism would be so much worse. I really have a hard time listening anymore
Eddie's gonna come out and cut a promo and we're all gonna forget this ever happened.
You right bro.
Eddie could save this with one promo
Not this time
Yeah, no!!
is this the guy jim always talks about?
Bryan would 100% be harsher on this if WWE did it. He's so bias to make AEW work because he's pissed off with WWE and desperate for AEW to beat them. With shit like this it's never going to happen.
Well what do you expect, Meltzer is a paid shill and Alvarez is just as bad.
I laughed so hard, this was like the Electric Chair Match in WCW.
I can’t even be bad mad because the “explosion” was so bad I got my money’s worth from laughing so hard. It is what it is lol.
A lot of people have said this on Twitter, and it’s quite an easy save, you just have to say that omega botched it, and that Eddie kingston passed out because he thought they were going to die. It ain’t perfect’ but it’s better than saying it was a huge explosion.
Of course it’s an easy save in kayfabe, this is unsalvagable for the real-life company that is AEW
Yeah sure it would have worked if omega would have come out directly after the match taunting moxley but aew just cannot make it work
This is were wwe shines. Aew cannot hustle.
@@dranzerjetli5126 wait for the goddamn Wednesday..eddie is gonna explode
I thought that ring “explosion” was a prank by Kenny Omega. Then I realized it was supposed to be real. I thought of it as a Joker flag in the gun. BANG!
I was thinking the exact same thing. Until, Eddie Kingston and Moxley continued to sell it. Underwhelming ending to what I thought was a great story, main event and all around PPV.
@@acjuan84 *Insert sad trombone sound.* 😂
I was similar I thought they were going for a dud angle when the explosion went off and I kept waiting for Eddie to get up and after the commentators started making the heat excuses I was like fuck they are actually going for this 😂
What do you mean:"when it explodes its done you cant put back the firecracker?"
Dude,they can buy extra explosives and test the explosives before the match.
The first time we sent a rocket with a living creature they sent a dog(cruel I know)not a human to see if it worked
What he means is that after you "test" a firework, you can't use THAT FIREWORK. The gunpowder has already exploded. You can use another one supposedly identical to it, but THAT one might turn out to be a dud.
Exactly what the last guy said. You can get two fireworks of the same type from the same factory made by the same guys, and you can have one explode as normal and one be a dud.
@@ArcaneAzmadi The chances of that happening are very slim especially of you take the care to buy from someone with a good reputation.They failed where mant smaller companies succeded,LET'S ACCEPT THAT
Bryan was doing everything to defend this 🤣🤣
If this was WWE they would be murdering this right now
No, WWE as a whole is way worse than weak pyro which is just not even 1% of the part of the show.
They could say that Eddie passed out from shock or something after hearing the bang
@Bruce Michael going into a fight and covering a friend or loved from an explosion assuming you'll die are drastically different scenarios. I imagine most people, in the stress, would pass out before the explosions engulf them. Kingston is no different I'm sure so that explanation can work for him
@Bruce Michael I'm not saying it's an epic fuckup. Yes he absolutely could have pulled Mox out of the ring in time, but the spot depended on them staying in the ring so that's why he didn't do that. It's heartbreaking that the moment ended with a dud explosion. That idea above is the only solution I feel to explain Kingston's selling
They could have played it out as a swerve, with Omega and Good Brothers coming back and laughing at Kingston's heroism and Moxley.
But they didnt which only explains how bad they are creatively and in imrpovisation.
Even if they want too they cant because eddie sold it like someone just shot him..
Spin it, Dave! This was their fault. Their fault for thinking this was a good idea. The way the match came together also made no sense. Booker of the year.
The whole AEW ppv was like a 5 hour edition of Botchamania.
That explosion was MINUS FIVE STARS!
Listen guys I prefer AEW to WWE, so don't @me... But if we can't admit that we're not holding AEW to the same standards we hold WWE to, then we ARE just AEW marks/shills. This was bad. For several reasons. Quit making excuses. Pussyfooting around the mistakes this company makes isn't going to help bring the necessary improvements anytime soon. Call a spade a spade. This. Was. Bad. Unforgivable? No. But undoubtedly bad execution of a bad idea.
It's the -5 explosion for me 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Stupid CZW stip completely ruined the whole thing. Keep backyard shit in the backyard. The whole thing, even the exploding barbed wire looked so hokey. If they'd had a really great standard match with out any interference, they'd have got a much better reception.
Jim Cornette is going to love this! 😂
Personally I still loved the main event and really enjoyed the Street fight before.
Kenny Omega is the new Baron Corbin 😂