Because we wanted to try a new UA-cam’s feature - testing different previews for one video. First time we uploaded a video with one preview as usual, then decided to do two of them. It’s actually interesting which one you guys saw?
Last night (AEST) I saw, I clicked, it failed.. video unavailable. I didn't bother to look for it on your channel either, just kept scrolling. This one came up in recommended again so I clicked and I'm watching now. Wondering what the stats are like for follow up views? I know for some channels, to which I even subscribe, I would not watch the 2nd chance out of spite. But I don't have much free time for youtube. @@Sumsubcom
We had a member of this group in our school as an exchange student. Made good use of BO. He got picked up for getting into gov computers. Picked up and deported. Now works as a security expert and travels around the world. Crazy times in 99.
With 30 years of distance and some (very, very late in life) self-awareness and ability to retro-flect, I've come to understand how much cDc and the l0pht and 2600 influenced my youth. To the point I still kinda am a rad 90's skater punk masquerading as a computer nerd. 40 years later and never lost the things from the scene gifted me, and ended up in a related technical career. Lots of nostalgia feels going on watching this. Nice work, even if it's a re-upload or whatever.
I first heard of the Cult randomly , when I was a teenager in Boston after a picked up a CD from a bench at a flee market called Hacking something. On the surface it was just a CD with simple little programs when you let the autoplay feature kick in. If you explored the CD they had bundled some really cool essay on hacking and various programs of the time like Back Orifice and SubSeven . My little 16 year old brain was blown away. Kinda opened my eyes to a whole new world that previously was hidden.
I remember back in the late nineties, I downloaded some chat program called Leop@rd at the time, that was infected with a Cult of the Dead Cow spyware/virus .
cDc...L0pht...takes me back... the old days (nights) .. sitting in the dark for hours on end.. staring at the monitor from less than a foot away, waiting patiently as my Commodore 64 connected at 300kbps (later 1200, then 2400)... reading 2600 text rags, oogling ascii art.. the demo warz, sceners, warez, pay-phones, boxes of various colors, reciting 'the manifesto', the smell of flux and solder, diy e-proms, gatherings of people crammed into a small room to see who could create the most impressive things in the smallest of spaces... shredding paper and plastic and burning weeks and months worth in a barrel because somebody you know got busted.. I can smell the nostalgia. Much respect to cDc (I still have copies of original files I DLed to 5 1/4" on a 1541... somewhere.. in a box..). L0pht.. Mudge, Space Rogue (I miss HNN) and others, literally created history. Thank you Sumsub for takin' us back in time.
@@lupinthird Yup. (Typin is more automatic these days than it was back when I used only 3 fingers on each hand (but was faster and and more accurate)). Started with a gray cartridge and moved up to Aprotek. Later on, I had the very first (and possibly only) 9600 C64 BBS (custom DMBBS+SpiceNet hybrid with CG-movies, SIDs, LoRD and other door games, and PBX-XFer-Out for certain boxer friends (kermit,punter, DTMF menus I made from a text game. worked like a 'mud/mush' type thing but instead of hitting N to go North, it was K for KP and S for Start, and 2 for 2600. No arduino stuff back then, but custom chip burners and boards etc made it fun. PBX was not a 'real' PBX, but was connected custom hardware that was connected to several land-lines that auto-relayed through pseudo-randomized list before going out. That part didn't last long.. got tired of replacing chips all the time that overheated and it got to be a bit more risky toward the end). If you were a boxer back in the day and want some real nostalgia, there is a pretty accurate simulation you can dial into and use (box only). PM if interested. Totally legal, fun, and educational. Works with box-apps from a cell even. The trunk sounds are pretty accurate to what they were.
those where the days. I used BO as a sub for managing all the desktops I had to manage. It made it so I didn't have to get out of my seat anymore to do my job. Loved it. Great watching this and remembering! Loved seeing Fred Thompson taking their statement. Good flashback day!
How did you get that naming origin story wrong?!?! Dead cow came from 0xDEADBEEF This was a common error code used by Microsoft engineers in the 90s. 8-letter hexadecimal words are special because they can be used as a DWORD (32-bit unsigned integer, and important windows data type)
Jesus! I just watched this insanely well put together docu! And at the end i was shocked that Belgium is the largest victim of deepfakes! You guys are amazing, great work!
When I was dating my now wife we cleaned up a building her late father used as a workspace in a tiny town in Alabama. I found a CdC sticker in a desk drawer and flipped out. I was a early teen building computers in the late 90s. He was a intl delta pilot til y2k, but I have to assume he got it at at a burn. He started burning in the mid 90s. The sticker now lives on a reusable water fire extinguisher I keep around.
Oh i'm hyped to see Sumsub talking about this! I know about these guys because of the book "Getting started becoming a master hacker" I love a good docu by Sumsub
@@Sumsubcom Oh that would be lovely i have many great ideas for you guys. Is it okay if i have some time to think about a answer? i would love to suggest some great ideas!
Oh my god Sumsub so i realized their influence is that big that i actually was doing all these things in my youth without knowing the true backstory & origin. I'm kinda shocked about this (it must be a deeply burried memory) also msfconsole is showing a cow and i never really asked myself why but now it's WOW.
Man, I thought I'd never hear about CDC and/or BO ever again. Straight back to 1999. when I...ahem....tried BO for scientific purposes only.... Cool video, I forgot about all that, and the rush of memories filled me with nostalgic joy :)
I remember being a young hacker in the 90s and loving the cult of the dead cow.. I used BO many times as well as winnuke, teardrop, all sort of fun stuff.. it's not so fun anymore.. a lot of tools these days are very corporate like.
Great cutting, really great transcript I love it thanks a lot! Stuff like yours show me that AI won't only dominate content creation!! Your job is safe!!
I had a radio shack “red box” that I made. It was a tone dialer with crystal mod. Ironically I never got into hacking as I had discovered girls shortly after figuring out how to mod that tone dialer 😅
At 00:17:20 you can see a TSR running called "bugs" that would basically be just a bunch of ASCII art bugs that crawl around eating up all the characters on your screen. Those were fun times!
I remeber Back orifce well. Scanning random subnets, and getting hits of infected computers was so fun. So many passwords in plain text. And targeted attacks were so easy with 'Saran Wrap' program, as it let you hide a payload within a legitimate file. I was just a kid, but BO2K opened a new world to me
Ah the olden days. I remember getting BO2k on a "Windows Gold" CD along with all the purated software and a load of text files including a certain cookbook 😂.
i grew up on cDc. did all sort of things. BO was fun but it quickly became not enough. I wanted more. Developing malware in primary school. I've worn all the hats, black, white, gray. Now i'm older, thus more risk-averse, thus the latter of those three. I IRC until this day with my friends. we never switched to discord. Gen-Z will never understand the beauty of owning someone else's computer or a server belonging to the government. Working in infosec is nowhere as cool as my childhood was, even red-teaming engagements are like playing in a sandbox with your parents watching your every move over your shoulder. And I've never even been to USA.
dude the amount of people that actually took people on their word when they said there wasn't a cow level in d2 was kinda amazing. was there really that many who didn't know there was a cow level? because I was just trolling, but some people legit were gate keeping the hell out of info when noobz were in the lobbies or in the game world text chat. me and a few players I met had our own little clique that all used to stomp the ladder in hardcore. kinda wish I could find those foos again and play some diablo 4
This is a long shot, but do you have any sites with open source data that can help teach me some of the new things that can be done on a computer?... I know it's a long shot but I'm guaranteed to miss if I don't shoot
See this is America where the Hackers Reign, Never underestimate someone by their looks, especially someone you have no idea about. Tha my end up being the only person that can help you....
Microsoft dropped the aging 95/98/ME "DOS" based OS because they didn't need it anymore. (ME was a REAL stinker!) Since win2k, they had a workable desktop version of NT. (There were companies that used NT 3/4 as a desktop, but it wasn't a great experience.) There was no point continuing two entire OS divisions.
Oh. So Sumsub is an actuall business? Didnt realise until now a year later :D That explains how you can afford the high budget videos that get modest view numbers, without sponsors or Patreon. Silly me.
@@Sumsubcom She was furious. It ended up causing more issues for me than for her as she now thought basic programs like Firefox and mIRC were viruses as well.
The amount of ads you allowed on here is disgusting. I am halfway through the video and I give up I’m just done…you have them from anywhere to 30 seconds to like two minutes. It’s fked up dude. I can’t support this crap.
You say that you can't support it, but you commented, which supports it. I'm assuming that you may have also downvoted it, which also supports the video. Any interaction on UA-cam is good. It's like no publicity is bad publicity. If you don't like/agree with a video, the best course of action is to do nothing.
when i open my PC it opens cmd for a split second and closes. can you explain this because when i scan my pc with windows defender it says its clean. Please Help! I know there is a malware of some kind. How do I remove it?
The lopht couldn’t make a rap group because it wasn’t like yelling “BROOKLY BROOKLYN” on the mic, you could only say Massachusetts once 😁 not …. the….same… S}twilight zone theme
Why reupload?
😮
Because we wanted to try a new UA-cam’s feature - testing different previews for one video. First time we uploaded a video with one preview as usual, then decided to do two of them. It’s actually interesting which one you guys saw?
Why not?
Last night (AEST) I saw, I clicked, it failed.. video unavailable. I didn't bother to look for it on your channel either, just kept scrolling. This one came up in recommended again so I clicked and I'm watching now. Wondering what the stats are like for follow up views? I know for some channels, to which I even subscribe, I would not watch the 2nd chance out of spite. But I don't have much free time for youtube. @@Sumsubcom
Battle of Hattin.
This the first time a short had interested me enough to bring me to the video.
Same for me
We had a member of this group in our school as an exchange student. Made good use of BO.
He got picked up for getting into gov computers. Picked up and deported. Now works as a security expert and travels around the world. Crazy times in 99.
Wow, do you work in security as well?
you are forgetting he is expendable.
With 30 years of distance and some (very, very late in life) self-awareness and ability to retro-flect, I've come to understand how much cDc and the l0pht and 2600 influenced my youth. To the point I still kinda am a rad 90's skater punk masquerading as a computer nerd. 40 years later and never lost the things from the scene gifted me, and ended up in a related technical career. Lots of nostalgia feels going on watching this. Nice work, even if it's a re-upload or whatever.
They really changeg the perspective of life of many people
It was an interesting era for sure...
Hey hey were the numptys
Yes me too...lots of nostalgia
I would add influence of movie “Hackers” and Mitnicks “Takedown”. I was hooked.
I first heard of the Cult randomly , when I was a teenager in Boston after a picked up a CD from a bench at a flee market called Hacking something. On the surface it was just a CD with simple little programs when you let the autoplay feature kick in. If you explored the CD they had bundled some really cool essay on hacking and various programs of the time like Back Orifice and SubSeven . My little 16 year old brain was blown away. Kinda opened my eyes to a whole new world that previously was hidden.
I totally forgot the name SubSeven! I remember messing around with it, but couldn't recall the name.
I remember back in the late nineties, I downloaded some chat program called Leop@rd at the time, that was infected with a Cult of the Dead Cow spyware/virus .
They're literally the hackers portrayed in movies
that's because these people started the scene... So obviously, people were going to take inspiration from them... Is this not obvious?
cDc...L0pht...takes me back... the old days (nights) .. sitting in the dark for hours on end.. staring at the monitor from less than a foot away, waiting patiently as my Commodore 64 connected at 300kbps (later 1200, then 2400)... reading 2600 text rags, oogling ascii art.. the demo warz, sceners, warez, pay-phones, boxes of various colors, reciting 'the manifesto', the smell of flux and solder, diy e-proms, gatherings of people crammed into a small room to see who could create the most impressive things in the smallest of spaces... shredding paper and plastic and burning weeks and months worth in a barrel because somebody you know got busted.. I can smell the nostalgia. Much respect to cDc (I still have copies of original files I DLed to 5 1/4" on a 1541... somewhere.. in a box..). L0pht.. Mudge, Space Rogue (I miss HNN) and others, literally created history. Thank you Sumsub for takin' us back in time.
LOL! the painfully slow modems
300bps - No k!
@@lupinthird Yup. (Typin is more automatic these days than it was back when I used only 3 fingers on each hand (but was faster and and more accurate)). Started with a gray cartridge and moved up to Aprotek. Later on, I had the very first (and possibly only) 9600 C64 BBS (custom DMBBS+SpiceNet hybrid with CG-movies, SIDs, LoRD and other door games, and PBX-XFer-Out for certain boxer friends (kermit,punter, DTMF menus I made from a text game. worked like a 'mud/mush' type thing but instead of hitting N to go North, it was K for KP and S for Start, and 2 for 2600. No arduino stuff back then, but custom chip burners and boards etc made it fun. PBX was not a 'real' PBX, but was connected custom hardware that was connected to several land-lines that auto-relayed through pseudo-randomized list before going out. That part didn't last long.. got tired of replacing chips all the time that overheated and it got to be a bit more risky toward the end). If you were a boxer back in the day and want some real nostalgia, there is a pretty accurate simulation you can dial into and use (box only). PM if interested. Totally legal, fun, and educational. Works with box-apps from a cell even. The trunk sounds are pretty accurate to what they were.
Just commenting to save this comment section for nostalgia
those where the days. I used BO as a sub for managing all the desktops I had to manage. It made it so I didn't have to get out of my seat anymore to do my job. Loved it. Great watching this and remembering! Loved seeing Fred Thompson taking their statement. Good flashback day!
I have an awesome picture of a couple of these CDC members from a HOPE conference years ago. So many memories.
How did you get that naming origin story wrong?!?! Dead cow came from 0xDEADBEEF
This was a common error code used by Microsoft engineers in the 90s. 8-letter hexadecimal words are special because they can be used as a DWORD (32-bit unsigned integer, and important windows data type)
I think the more important aspect to the name is that the founding members worked together in a slaughterhouse.
I have been online since BBS, great video.
I had a buddy who got inducted with these dudes. Wore that cow skull medallion all through highschool. Pretty sure that dude is rich as shit rn.
Jesus!
I just watched this insanely well put together docu!
And at the end i was shocked that Belgium is the largest victim of deepfakes!
You guys are amazing, great work!
When I was dating my now wife we cleaned up a building her late father used as a workspace in a tiny town in Alabama.
I found a CdC sticker in a desk drawer and flipped out. I was a early teen building computers in the late 90s.
He was a intl delta pilot til y2k, but I have to assume he got it at at a burn. He started burning in the mid 90s.
The sticker now lives on a reusable water fire extinguisher I keep around.
I installed this when I was a kid.. The Server executable, by accident lol
I was chatting with people who connected on my pc lol
Yeah, people used BO for different purposes back then :)
Oh i'm hyped to see Sumsub talking about this!
I know about these guys because of the book "Getting started becoming a master hacker"
I love a good docu by Sumsub
Thanks. Yup we found this story very gripping. If there are any 'wishes' for new docus let us know (though we're already making a new one)
@@Sumsubcom Oh that would be lovely i have many great ideas for you guys.
Is it okay if i have some time to think about a answer? i would love to suggest some great ideas!
Oh my god Sumsub so i realized their influence is that big that i actually was doing all these things in my youth without knowing the true backstory & origin.
I'm kinda shocked about this (it must be a deeply burried memory) also msfconsole is showing a cow and i never really asked myself why but now it's WOW.
@@Sumsubcom can you do one on aol chats, servers, server bots etc that was my era would love to relive some of the details
I vividly remember those times and CDC...they were my ticket for interest in deeper hardware/software and cybersecurity dive...sweet nineties ❤
Cant believe you got rid of Bradley, his episodes were GOATED
This brings back so many memories, so many hilarious memories.
Man, I thought I'd never hear about CDC and/or BO ever again. Straight back to 1999. when I...ahem....tried BO for scientific purposes only....
Cool video, I forgot about all that, and the rush of memories filled me with nostalgic joy :)
good ol times when hackers ruled the show
internet nowadays is crap and hackers can't do much about it
🤷♂
I worked for one of the guys in this group. They started a cybersecurity company near Boston ;)
I live in Lubbock and used to chill w Kevin back in the day! Never knew he was the founder haha!
God I feel old…
this
I remember being a young hacker in the 90s and loving the cult of the dead cow.. I used BO many times as well as winnuke, teardrop, all sort of fun stuff.. it's not so fun anymore.. a lot of tools these days are very corporate like.
Great cutting, really great transcript I love it thanks a lot! Stuff like yours show me that AI won't only dominate content creation!! Your job is safe!!
really well made.. thx for this!
Thanks so much! We’ll have more videos coming soon:)
I wish I could go to this years def con Dx. Hopefully they upload the juicey stuff. Nice video guys! Subscribed.
Thanks for the sub!
CDC? Center of Disease Control. That name cant have been a coincidence
I had a radio shack “red box” that I made. It was a tone dialer with crystal mod. Ironically I never got into hacking as I had discovered girls shortly after figuring out how to mod that tone dialer 😅
Bring that low budget Sherlock Holmes.
We just going to forget the existence of Windows ME?
🤣 I'm still trying to
At 00:17:20 you can see a TSR running called "bugs" that would basically be just a bunch of ASCII art bugs that crawl around eating up all the characters on your screen. Those were fun times!
thanks for the memories xD
Back orifice didn't exploit anything except users brains.
Sumsub is back!
I remeber Back orifce well. Scanning random subnets, and getting hits of infected computers was so fun. So many passwords in plain text. And targeted attacks were so easy with 'Saran Wrap' program, as it let you hide a payload within a legitimate file. I was just a kid, but BO2K opened a new world to me
Why do you think the windows chime was done, done, DONE, DOOOne….because that’s what we would say when we were finished with them 😂
Hell yeah Brian Oblivion, I love Videodrome.
I see Cult of the Dead Cow... I watch. Simple as that :)
There it is! Seen it pop up earlier
Excellent video. Then there was also Sub7.
Love'd SuB7.😍
I remember them… wow. Never thought I’d see them resurfacing on UA-cam…
We got you 😎
@@Sumsubcomi'm glad man! These guys are what inspired me to chase a career in IT.
Ah the olden days.
I remember getting BO2k on a "Windows Gold" CD along with all the purated software and a load of text files including a certain cookbook 😂.
Greybeard core memory unlocked.
Thx for the video!
i grew up on cDc. did all sort of things. BO was fun but it quickly became not enough. I wanted more. Developing malware in primary school. I've worn all the hats, black, white, gray. Now i'm older, thus more risk-averse, thus the latter of those three. I IRC until this day with my friends. we never switched to discord. Gen-Z will never understand the beauty of owning someone else's computer or a server belonging to the government. Working in infosec is nowhere as cool as my childhood was, even red-teaming engagements are like playing in a sandbox with your parents watching your every move over your shoulder. And I've never even been to USA.
you love spying on people
Wow, cool. I didn't know or could imagine ❤
"There is no cow level" Diablo 2....
dude the amount of people that actually took people on their word when they said there wasn't a cow level in d2 was kinda amazing. was there really that many who didn't know there was a cow level? because I was just trolling, but some people legit were gate keeping the hell out of info when noobz were in the lobbies or in the game world text chat. me and a few players I met had our own little clique that all used to stomp the ladder in hardcore. kinda wish I could find those foos again and play some diablo 4
i maintain to this day that goolag was the best learning tool ever made, period. cDc were GODs at this shit, and goolag imo is their crown jewel.
Lol this program is program still exists but it works for browsers its called BeEF
Lol I was just to the left of that stage in the opening clip. :)
Haha thats cool, you were part of a history!
This is a long shot, but do you have any sites with open source data that can help teach me some of the new things that can be done on a computer?... I know it's a long shot but I'm guaranteed to miss if I don't shoot
What the video URL for the black hat? 18:50 👀
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it! Stay tuned
See this is America where the Hackers Reign, Never underestimate someone by their looks, especially someone you have no idea about. Tha my end up being the only person that can help you....
This is very interesting
Ah, The mayhem at the Alexis Park.
5:31 which film mask is it??
"an innocent executable file"? LOL - I remember Back Orfice well - with a name like that you know what to expect....
What software do we have in theese days that do semestre thing?
phreaking was a popular blue box, ey? 😄😄 that was just one of the colours!
Microsoft dropped the aging 95/98/ME "DOS" based OS because they didn't need it anymore. (ME was a REAL stinker!) Since win2k, they had a workable desktop version of NT. (There were companies that used NT 3/4 as a desktop, but it wasn't a great experience.) There was no point continuing two entire OS divisions.
Well ever since that group shadowbrokers everyone is a hacker..
Super culty holy sh1t!!!
I will def watch that video
Hey, you didn’t talk about the congressional hearing!
Oh. So Sumsub is an actuall business? Didnt realise until now a year later :D That explains how you can afford the high budget videos that get modest view numbers, without sponsors or Patreon. Silly me.
cDc! Bow to the cow!
I thought 💭 it was called NETBUS, lol 😆
hi i have a question how can i learn the osint ?
Good times. I remember infecting my moms computer with all sorts of interesting malware so I could test it out. This was before virtual machines, lol.
What was the mom's reaction? :D
@@Sumsubcom She was furious. It ended up causing more issues for me than for her as she now thought basic programs like Firefox and mIRC were viruses as well.
The amount of ads you allowed on here is disgusting. I am halfway through the video and I give up I’m just done…you have them from anywhere to 30 seconds to like two minutes. It’s fked up dude. I can’t support this crap.
You say that you can't support it, but you commented, which supports it. I'm assuming that you may have also downvoted it, which also supports the video.
Any interaction on UA-cam is good. It's like no publicity is bad publicity.
If you don't like/agree with a video, the best course of action is to do nothing.
I remember this well from my school days 😂 ok I’m old 😂
Most surprising, fbi kept its word
W short got my attention fo sho
oh... God forbid if they were on the "dark side"...
when i open my PC it opens cmd for a split second and closes. can you explain this because when i scan my pc with windows defender it says its clean. Please Help! I know there is a malware of some kind. How do I remove it?
Ultimate hacking nerd scene 😂 love it
Second video in a row i have had to stop watching due to a ridiculous number of interuptions from adverts
The Simpsons? Another prediction come true?
Hack the planet
I see BO in all these comments and all I think about is sweaty armpits
mhm mhm..
i agree
Like vodoo boys in cyberpunk 2077
Noooo escuchar sin micro😂😂😂
5:48 psychopathy
Could've just run it im some vms.....
Running a exe aunt hacking
The lopht couldn’t make a rap group because it wasn’t like yelling “BROOKLY BROOKLYN” on the mic, you could only say Massachusetts once 😁 not …. the….same…
S}twilight zone theme
Interesting short. Very boring main vid
😮o
COTDC are cool
That title bro. You fell off
I hacked Taco Land
Y2k????
💀
.ooM
So this is why Y2K didn't came into fruition
Satanic
you one of those mfs that believe that technology is actually trapping demons in a sigil circle or whatever? yet you're still on yt?
1st LFG
You’re not, but your boyfriend still loves you.
@@xploration1437