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As a Belgian I can say that it's always best without a government. 👍😉
then they can't steal and trow away goverment money 🤔
No one wants to be the next Greece except Belgium
As Belgian i can say he's right...
I'm Belgian as well, I've watched Arjen's video before and couldn't agree more
For those who doesn't understand: Gert Verhulst is the creator of a large group child series, incluiding K3 which is a singing girl group. He have had a lot of different relationships, incluiding two girls of K3.
Also the little skit with the dog puppet (Samson) is from a kid show called Gert & Samson from the 90s. I grew up watching it!
K3 made up my childhood, man.
@@nindr4495 Samson & Gert
wat heeft dat er nu met te maken ,doe niet zo belachelijk
Als je niet deftig kan vervoegen in het Engels, schrijf je beter gewoon Nederlands.
and it's still fun to live in Belgium greetings from Belgium ps i speak all the 3 languages
Belgium is fantastic and Belgians are great people. I will visit Leuven next week. Greetings from your northern neighbours
You can still fill happiness living in Belgium? Wow, no just kidding, love your country. But especially Brugge and Antwerp.
Ben je een van de weinige in belgie die alle 3 de talen spreekt
@@briankrol2548 spreek ook nog Engels , Spaans en een klein beetje Zweeds
@@erikbehaeghel taal strijder ben jij
I'm Dutch ( Flemish) living in the French part of Belgium for almost 20 years. I don't want to go back to the Dutch part, I love it here. People here in The Ardenne are more relaxed, very friendly and they greet each other when they pass: " Bonjour", they are very nice. when dutch people are here for the holidays they mostly don't even look at you when you pass, but I greet them anyway... 😀
Weird, I'm Dutch from the Rotterdam area and I'm used to greeting people, and most do it back as well. When I was in Gent I had a similar experience.
I'm a Brit living in Belgium for decades, both in Flanders and Wallonie. I love the friendliness of the francophones, everyone greets and talks to each other en passant.
That's just because they have nothing else to do...
@@carolynmoody51
@@eugenezandberg8057or because they have manners ?
@@MarieCindy Like all belgians, they have manners...
I'm a Dutch female truckdriver and on wednesdays I get the Belgium route. I love the beer, the food, the relaxed way of life.
Maar de wegen zijn een beetje minder
@@MrasmeetsGaming Dat is om vervelende toeristen uit het land te houden, vooral die caravans zijn een bron van ergernis.
I feel Flanders and Wallonia are like a twin brother and sister. They disagree all the time, in similar tone, with similar faces, similar clothing, denying the other is family, while their parent sighs. If they only realised this. (edit: they do, see comment of Sanne V)
As a belgian: most flemish and walloon people do get along well. At the end of the day we are all belgian and we have more in common than difference. And we always support each other. It's mostly politics where it goes wrong. Greetings from belgium
@@sannev8407 Great to hear, and probably very true too. Everywhere we see political leaders stoke against others, using people as pawns, to be the 'leader who protects his own'. Yuch.
@@KootFloris yes, exactly, some flemish politicians play the flanders card, some walloon politicians play the wallonia card, and really, most of the people really don't care. Sadly it gives us a bad image in other countries 😅 thanks for your answer!
@@sannev8407 Thanks for your information. with all the bad wrap social media get, there are more than enough proving there's actual exchange possible. :)
@@KootFloris agreed. I think politicians here and also in other countries have other problems to tackle than try to drive us apart. People don't care about if flanders/wallonia should have their own goverment or whatever, they care about being able to pay for food and housing. I think most of us feel both Belgian and Flemish at the same time tho. That's perfectly possible! It's just an example, but during world cups or anything everyone in the whole country is just together celebrating and singing the national anthem 😂 long story short, you described it perfectly. We are like brother and sister, or a married couple who have their differences but also belong together
As a belgian, I've laughed so hard. Good channel man. ❤
I absolutely love your Lubach content!! Please continue watching more, you seem to like it and we do too:)
Also yayy I see a new verraders upload, even better!
Love Lubach, especially his 'Nu is her afgelopen....' slots, and of course 'Netherlands second.'
Thank you brother, for another great video on youtube! Guys like you are the people who keep youtube running, keep going!
Greetings from Peru!
About time that our southern neighbors would rejoin us! We can finally have some great beers on the menu. And we will pave some proper highways to France for them. Win-win situation, right? Haha
Belgian beer FTW!
Rochefort is in Walonië so they're absolutely welcome to join us!
About the highways: I believe that nowadays they're a bit less crappy in Vlaanderen?
@@MarcelNL that would be amazing! I almost got killed by the ringroad around Antwerp one time. So it would be great if they fixed some of these roads.
no joining please. we keep our roads terrible just to annoy the Dutch travelling to France In fact every time in the month of May we start adding extra potholes on the roads that are in good condition, just to be sure.And why would we join a country that brews Heineken? What will the rest of the world think of us? ;-)
@@brianvervliet8237 😂
@@MLWitteman haha noorderburen we zien jullie heel erg graag hoor, maar dan toch liever als 2 onafhankelijke landen 😂
Hi!
I am from Belgium. Arjen Lubach is a famous Dutch comedizn who is a little bit known here in Belgium but not that much. This is a satire program, about belgium made by someone from The Neherlands. So it's out if context and not completely true. Our politics can work better that's a fact. But I, as a Flemish Belgian, can say most Flemish/Belgian people, and Walloon/Belgian people, don't want independence. Let alone belong to Netherlands. We in the first place feel Belgian. Some people from outside Belgium think those things because of some troubles in the past. And our country could work better politics-wise. But we like our country and more than 80% want more belgium not more flanders. We have more in common than what seperates us and that's what we should focus on.
Greetings from a Flemish girl who lives in Wallonia.
Looooove lubach 🥰 lucky for us there’s a lot of content, keep m coming!❤️
Belgians are pretty cool, says me from the Netherlands.
I actually sat in the stands for this episode.
The last one with public before covid rules didnt allow for it any more. Great fun!
Yep! That thing went viral in Flanders (the Walloons wouldn't understand it since they don't learn Dutch anymore). We love Lubach.
Arjen is a Dutch writer, comedian, television presenter and music producer. He is serious and has a humorous view of the world with a twist. You either like him or you hate him. But, I enjoy watching his evening shows.
Lol well as a Belgian i gotta say it's even more complicated than he makes it appear (most Flemish people don't actually want to split up the up the country) but he somehow made the whole mess entertaining. I'm also happy to say the age old Dutch-Belgian tradition of joking about each other will probably outlive any constitutional reforms.
We need a Belgian comedian to lead the counter offensive and make a piece about how the Dutch Land Forces just officially became a part of the German military. Looks like the Germans won the war after all ;-)
And the German navy just officially became part of the Dutch navy, so? They are working together now.
@@Hansjoh21 Which is great. And a great source of comedy :)
''Dutch Land Forces just officially became a part of the German military'' where is the humor here? what part of its is supposed to be funny?
As a fellow Belgian i agree, most Flemish people don't want Flanders to be independant. For most of us it's a region that's part of a country.
You do know that the Dutch and Belgian Air Force also share patrols over both our countries? Does that mean that we Dutch now finally have suppressed the Belgium Revolution?🤣
Please do realise most Belgians consider themselves BELGIANS and embrace the other language communities. It's only the politicians that try to divide us for their personal gain.
As a belgian i 100% agree. More than 80% of flemish and even more walloon people want more Belgium instead of more flanders.
Agree
no, we don't
I am tired of a one sided relationship
we pay
we learn both languages,
we don't demonise walloons
and what do we get, their media demonises us as nazis, their policies lead them to ruine and transfers are needed to keep their state running, they refuse to even symbolically put in the effort of putting dutch as a mandatory course in the high school curriculum,
I don't hate walloons cause collective hate is stupid but I spit on the notion that we are a "nation" we aren't, we hardly even interact, we live paralel to eachother and I feel it's pretty damn shitty of you to argue that it isn't wallonia that has the ball in it's court and refuses to kick it our way every once in a while
Absolute BS that. Count the votes for VB and NVA. You dont get close to 80% other voters and both parties want flanders to be on its own.
I remember that period without government. Peope all said the country ran with less hickupps than with a full government 😂Probably cause that situation ensured the working government officials didnt have time to occupy themselves with useless policies and fighting amongst each other 😀
I remember those months without government. An American friend of mine who lives in Belgium, but has also lives in a number of other countries in Europe and Asia, told me then that Belgium is probably the most stable country in the world. How many countries on the planet can be left without a government for over a year, and most people just don't really care and life just goes on, no unrest, no chaos? That was her argument. To be honest, there was still minimal government to take care of everyday government routines; just no new law, no new rules, no new bureaucrats' at the highest level, until a "real" government was in place - which was fine as far as we ordinary people are concerned; who really needs those politicians and their circus after all? And Belgium being a federal state, the regional governments were in place and active.
so true!@@jfrancobelge
Some things are just a bit too complicated to explain quickly in the subtitles (like their version of Samson and Gert banging all the members of K-Trois etc.) but all in all I think you got the point! :-)
Respect to who did the subs as usual!
Yeah and the PS + SP=PSP requires you to know that PSP is an former Dutch radical pacifist socialist party that merged into Groen LInks in 1990. Many younger Dutch probably wouldn't even know.
How did you ever get into reacting to dutch stuff? You are good at this man, very nice to watch somehow
Hahahah yes, but Belgium is a little bubble😂
Please react to ter land ter zee en in de lucht!🤗
It's an amazing competition with home made vehicles and lots of humor.😁
Well, if you're going old school, I think 'Banana Split' would be quite good, too 😂
@@ganymedes62 The original "It's just a prank, bro! You can't get mad, you're on camera, bro!" America clearly stole that from us! :P
Dat is idd een erg oud programma lol
You have to watch the episode with: Randy Feltface, that is a real good one.
Hell yes. Randy is amazing. Saw him live in Amsterdam. Fantastic show!
As a Dutch person I can confirm, we have a lot of hate to Belgium, but we’re also friends. It’s live a love-hate relation😂
Haat?
yeah love the guy
Ik vind België een leuk land. Ik ben twee keren in het land geweest en het was mooi. Ik vind het grappig dat ik drie talen in België kan praten: mijn moedertaal duits, frans en nederlands, wat ik nog aan het leren ben en zo moet ik vaak een beetje met het nederlands improviseren.
Uw Nederlands wordt steeds beter. 👍
Alot of Belgians were mad, but as a Belgian, I just think it's funny
As a fellow Belgian, i agree it's funny but also not completely true what he says
As a Belgian with Dutch herritage as well I think this is funny 😂 but I'm used to it cause it doesn't matter where I am. Belgians make fun of my Dutch herritage and Dutch people make fun of being also Belgian . Untill I tell them they are the same anyway , then they both become mad .😂
@@ArienvanRijswijck Well maybe that is because they àre not the same (Belgian with dutch heritage myself). Having (quite) the same language and a shared history doesn't make us the same.
I still dissagree , the culture belgians and Dutch people talk about are "regional" differences and those differences we don't only have compared to each other but also compared in our own country.
@@ArienvanRijswijck Those are quite different situations. Can't compare that. In every country you have regional differences. Doesn't mean much. In France, you have Brittany, Occitan, Paris, Elzas, French-basque.. a very varied cultural landscape, still they are all French and also identify so. Just like in Belgium we have Limburg, Liege, West Flanders, Antwerp and so on and still we are all Belgian. They are different parts of one country. But let's agree to disagree
This is the only time I’m glad I know both Dutch and English
Ps. Maybe put the subtitles of the original Lubach video in your own so it’s easier to read for people who don’t understand Dutch
I'm curious, to all the people from Belguim here: are you from the Dutch speaking Part or the French speaking part? I get the feeling the french speakers are not present bc you know... that proud frenchyness.
I am Walloon Belgian from Brabant, therefore in the far north of Wallonia, therefore on the Flemish border. And many of us are bilingual, me for example I am a mix of Flemish and Walloon, I have a French-speaking name and a Dutch-speaking name. I have always been in Flanders and Wallonia. and for us we are Belgian and not French. the Walloons and French do not get along. 100 years ago, Walloons did not speak French but Walloon, but today our language has disappeared.
Benelux should form one country again
3:22
🤯😳🧐
Whut????
Annexeren, onmiddellijk; had duidelijk allang gemoeten, om(f)g
Djiezzz
😂🤣
Definitely check out some video's from his new show De Avondshow met Arjen Lubach if you can.
As wallon I have one thing that only the walloon can understand
"Les Flamins, ç'è-st-ôk kèk'chosse mèy lès Niérmants e lès Hollandès, is leûr fodrît béneû qwèques-on d'inondåcion, come èn 55"
Les (grandes) "inondacion" c'était en 53.
With Brandon as prez, I wouldn't judge ;)
Gouvernement ??? pourquoi faire? 😂 😂
This is what we call "dry humor" in the Netherlands
I'm from Flanders and I approve of this proposal. :p
Do you really want to be surrounded by the Netherlands, by Dutch people ?
@@flitsertheo every country is surrounded by other countries. Right now, we're surrounded by the Dutch, the French, the British, the Germans, and the Luxembourgers. So on that aspect, it makes no difference.
As a Flemish speaking Belgian I would love to move to the New Nederland and I’ll buy a house in Ardennen ;)
Je spreekt gewoon Nederlands boer.
@@SuperDirk1965 wat een voorname beleefde opmerking. Manieren? Leg eens uit… mss kan ik iets van je leren
@@laurentroose2429 Kijk, je schrijft gewoon Nederlands. "Vlaams" als taal bestaat niet.
@@SuperDirk1965 kerel , heb ik ooit beweerd dat Vlaams een eigen taal is? Ga dan maar gauw poepen met uw wijf en zet een dagschotel in de frigo en geniet van een diner die je op 4 m kan opwarmen in de microgolf om d an de afwas in de pompbak te leggen . waaw je bent echt niet mee eh en wat een energie om de dag te starten… zijn alle hollanders zo?
Belgium has been sold to the European Union and the government of the European Union is in Belgium. So Belgium doesn't need a government. That's why the formations take so long.
Do you dare to review Hans Teeuwen?!
It's weird that someone who can't understand Dutch is reacting to these like I have only seen Americans react to the American first the Netherlands second video
Arjen Lulbach 😊
I mean the other 5 governments are still running and they do a lot so it isn't that bad
True Belgians know that best government is no government
''Belg ik van duitsen bloed'' Belg also means vomit in some forms of dialect so its an inside joke ;)
The plural form of "birds" in the Dutch language also has a slightly different meaning over there, right? (Vogelen)
"Uitvogelen" over here means that you're going to find out about something. I think you guys would think it has a whole different meaning, haha!
As a Dutch living close to Belgium and sometimes travelling there, where can I get my car suspension reimbursed?
You shouldn't have bought a DAF.
Would be easier to stay in Nederland !
You won't ever see this kind of humor coming from Belgium.
did lubach just created a reversed dietsland
Dutch is such a weird language to me as a Norwegian. It's like if you stick Scandinavian, German and English into a blender and haven't decided what to come up with yet. You sorta get most of it, and then you're suddenly lost :)
English is a spinoff from German Friessian and Dutch.
Yes, my mother tongue is exactly like that. Spoken in the centre, the pit of the germanic realm, dutch has been composed of many waves of germanic languages interferring with one another… creating some sort of a linguistic storm. Therefore instead of squared grammatical tables, we rather have long lists containing all of the exceptions we need to deal with. Lists that differ regionally. Three grammatical genders in the south, but two genders in the north… makes we need to deal with some grammatical spaghetti right there in the middle. The same is true for the cases, we sometimes must use while sometimes not being even allowed to use them. Dutch has lots of men’s nipples, pointing at grammatically necessary features without a function. A dinosaur grammar that must be adhered to only because dutch wouldn’t be dutch any longer if we would simplify its organic structure. So in the end the best way to speak dutch, is speaking it based on dutch bias. German is hard to learn in the beginning, however dutch becomes harder once you’re ability to speak it grows. I wish all students the best of luck perfectionising all those last tiny bits of our scattered beast of a language… the parts you need to do in order to fool a dutchman in case you would like to try to pretending you’re dutch.😂
Just let the UK have it..
🤣😂
The American Netherlands😂
yeah, the solden in Belgium, 1000 days without government, will now happen in the Netherlands.
Breaking away from the Netherlands or Europe, is never a good thing.. look at England, it's very hopeless whiteout the eu.. and Belgium is hopeless whiteout the Netherlands.. 😅
So i would say, come back, have a cup of tea and a biscuit and sign to stay with us 🇳🇱 again.. im very sure it will brings the sun back in your life.. 🤗
Reunite the family 🙂🇳🇱
Tu peux aller t'faire inculer com' au bon vî tempo si t'veux.
Vlaanderen uiteraard bij Nederland, Wallonië ook prima, dan kunnen we eindelijk de Ardennendorpen op gaan knappen en ook steden als Karelskoning en Luik.. Alleen jammer dat er zo veel Nederlandsonkundige en vaak werkschuwe Walen wonen. Maar als wij er de baas terug zijn, zal daar wel verandering in komen 😉.
Een beetje de baas komen spelen.
Echt een arrogante hollander. We hebben jullie ooit al eens buiten gebonjourd en dat zou meteen weer gebeuren. Zorg eerst dat bij jullie alles goed gaat want de politiek is bij jullie ook om zeep.
lol :)
a nice way to explain how belgium is so divided. I was surprised how many governments they have and also the fact that hardly anything is done to make Flanders and Wallonia work closer together. Sometimes I think let Flanders join the Netherlands and let Wallonia go to France, then the problem is solved.
A country with 11.6 million inhabitants; they almost have more local governments than people, so it seems.
there is one party that is on the ballet on both sides and who is trying to mend things ( de partij van de arbeid/Parti du Travail de Belgique)
@@joeribaars5481 Als het het zelfde is als de PvdA in Nederland, zullen ze vooral stemmen in Molenbeek krijgen! :P
@@MarcelNL het Grappige is de PVDA belgie is de SP in Nedeland en de PS is de PVDA van belgie. source SPer die contact heeft gehad met de PVDA belgie
@@joeribaars5481 de pvda is juist heel belgisch gezind
I live in Belgium and I totaly agree with Arjen!! Greetings from Belgium!!
I always kept saying Belgium (but also Luxembourg) should come back to the motherland, it always drove my former father & mother in law crazy😁.
Motherland ? You mean mother-in-law Land.
Never with Nederland.
It's funny, because the Dutchies came after our record.
not belgium, Dutch program
fun fact the dutch anthem is the oldest in the world
That's why it sounds as a tribe of Neanderthals singing.
Lubach is a Dutch comedian of the left wing. He is joking about the Belgium people. (people from belgium are always making fun of the Dutch and the Dutch about the Belgium people. )
is dit nou een amerikaan die kijkt?
Ja
We really do sing that we are "of German blood" in the Dutch anthem. It's complicated.
It's complicated, But we don't sing Of "German blood" but of "Germanic blood". The original meaning is "Dietsen" which was interchangeable back then with "Duitsen".
@@hyromaru Some people actually skip that part while singing the anthem, because they think it's an insult to be seen as a German.
People really need to be educated.
@@hyromaru Continental West Germanic. dialect/language continuum Scandinavia and England were never included.
It's not compmicated. The lyrics are written from the viewpoint of Willem van Oranje. Who was a German. So it makes total sense when Willem says he has German blood.
@@TualCor A nation state of Germany was only founded centuries later, and a nation state of the netherlands only emerged with WoO
Walloons just don't care about dutch language...
With french and english, i can travel the whole world and find people i can speak with. WIth dutch, you just go nowhere except for the north of Belgium, Holland and a few islands!
As a Dutchie, I'd rather have Flanders be part of the Netherlands. 😂❤ They already speak the same language & they're just friendly ppl overall imo. 🇳🇱🤝🇧🇪
gast dat is de hele grap
@@DaanBruins ben geen gast
@@littlewiseowl9858 😑
How about the opposite ? From a historical point of view the Dutch seceded from the Spanish Netherlands ( a sort of Nexit), what remained of the Spanish Netherlands (roughly) became Belgium. So the Dutch could rejoin now.
As a Dutch civilian, please give us Flanders and not Wallonia. 😁
@@user-nx6md1yl5c Speak for yourself 🤨
Wallonia prima, dan kunnen we de Ardennendorpen op gaan knappen en ook de steden als Karelskoning en Luik.. Alleen jammer dat er zo veel Nederlandsonkundige en vaak werkschuwe Walen wonen. Maar als wij er de baas terug zijn, zal daar wel verandering in komen 😉.
@@yt-nx1qm Nederlandse onkunde ( Nederlandsonkundige = geen Nederlands 😉), bedankt voor je compliment. 🤨😛
@@AdvdW dat is wel Nederlands, wijsneus zoek maar op het is vaker gebruikt.
@@yt-nx1qm In het Vlaams-Nederlands wordt dit woord inderdaad gebruikt. In Nederland wordt het woord "Nederlandsonkundige" niet gebruikt en dit woord is ook niet terug te vinden in de Van Dale (Groot woordenboek van de Nederlandse taal). Historisch gezien komt de Vlaams-Nederlandse taal o.a. uit de Nederlandse taal. Vlamingen hebben hier zelf een eigen draai aangegeven door dialecten en andere worden te gaan gebruiken. Zoek maar op ... wijsneus! 😆
Free Flanders!!!
The Dutch always have to make fun of the Belgians, they are no better, on the contrary
I honestly think that Flanders and Wallonia should not be one country at all. And I don't think that they can solve this by trying to get rid of political differences in all the areas. I think they should just be separated and be it's own thing. If Wallonia really want's to be together with another country than they might need to go together with France since I expect them to be similar in culture due to the same language. Maybe if it becomes a part of France or a special province of France or something like that it might be much better for them. I really hope this country will separate and it would be really exciting to see how those to countries will develop in this. I'm 100% sure that at least Flanders will become a better country after this happens
Hoe typisch en hoe heerlijk arrogant dat je als Nederlander vindt dat er OVER België beslist moet worden. Kijk naar jij eigen woorden: "they should just be separated." Je zou dit over letterlijk geen enkel ander land meer durven zeggen, laat staan over Suriname of Indonesië. Zelfbeschikkingsrecht heet dat, maar dat geldt niet voor België. En vooral niet als je een BNederlander bent, want dat weegt "1830" blijkbaar als een loodzware baksteen op je maag.
Maak er geen drama van, je bent ..tigste Nederlander die zo'n redenering zie maken, dat is zo typisch voor jullie dat je je er niet eens bewust van bent.
Ik ben Belg en dat is ABSOLUUT niet wat we willen. Meer dan 80% van de Vlamingen wil niet splitsen. Ze willen meer belgie. Het is een groot misverstand dat we niet samen zouden horen. Door de politiek die niet werkt denken mensen dingen die jij nu zegt. Wallonie is NIET Frankrijk en wij Vlaamse Belgen willen NIET bij Nederland horen. Taal is maar een klein deel van cultuur. Dat is als zeggen dat oostenrijk maar bij duitsland moet horen.
Het is een illusie die vlaams nationalistische groeperigen de wereld insturen. We zouden zeker niet beter werken apart. Integendeel, we zijn beter af samen. Dat het beter kan, ben ik eens. Maar wel samen.
While i get why some people in and outside of the country want it to split.
The problems are that this country is not nearly as easy to cut up, as people think it is.
Its not as easy as, "well... flanders & wallonia split up along language borders, brussels becomes some sort of EU property, and its done!"
Its a disaster waiting to happen that will make brexit look like a walk in the park.
First of al, the Walloons overwhelmingly do not want to split up, there is not a single Wallonian party that would ever sign a bill to split the country, its complete political suicide over there. So it is likely that if we ever split up, it would be because of a 1 sided "illegal" decision by the Flemish government.
As you can imagine, the EU would not think too highly about this, and it could very well result in Flanders falling out of the EU as a result of the way independence was declared.
Secondly, Brussels...
Again these are people that do not want a split, possibly even less so then the wallonians, because they are probably the people in the country that feel the most 'Belgian' of all Belgians, and they know very well that it will put them in a very awkward position.
Brussels to all of us, is our capital, a place of very high economic importance to both the flemish & walloons, a huge number of us work there, a place of big historic importance, the home to so many important international institutions... Both wallonia & flanders will never risk losing it.
Wallonia because its one of the few strong economic supporting pillars it has left, because most of Brussels speaks their language, and because of strong cultural ties.
And likely, most people from Brussels would likely prefer to have it become part of wallonia over flanders.
Flanders, because, as silly as that may seem to outsiders (and even some insiders) Brussels is to this day considered the capital of Flanders, and a historically dutch speaking flemish city, that was slowly taken away from us by the walloons.
And despite flanders being an economically strong area, it too leans pretty heavily on Bursselms, as one of its major economic supporting pillars, A LOT of flemish work over there.
The flanders that gathers enough support to declare independence, will never allow it to be taken away once again.
The idea that Brussels belongs to Flanders for historical reasons is core to the flemish nationalist movement.
Most high up politicians in the flemish nationalist movement see "history" and "identity" as the entire thing the movement is based on, these are not the people that will consider Giving Brussels its own state, or away to the walloons as logical, or even reasonable. Their thinking is mostly based on historical idea's, feelings, not logic.
Thirdly, there is lots of (much smaller) towns and city's along the border that will be major points of dispute as well, as minority's over there might not feel like getting trapped as a minority in a completely seperate country that would not feel very inviting to them, with 2 parties at its helm that hate everything french and non-flemish.
And as fourth, Making Brussels Eu property is not something that is possible without completly redefining what the EU is.
The EU does not own... anything, because its not a country, its not supposed to, there is no framework for it to own anything, its a collaboration of existing countries.
Its all a minefield of things that can very easily cause a political deadlock that will last for years.
Especially with politicians at the wheel that have proven over and over that they will rather sit on not having a solution at all, and blaming others for it, than compromising and finding a way to make it work for everyone at least a bit. (this is how these 'no federal Belgian government for 540 days' situations happen)
Well, Wallonie together with France... It would not please them.
(French perspective)
France centres around Paris.
And outside Paris live peasants.
And then those Wallonian Peasants dont even speak french (come on Octante and Nonante, any civilised person knows that that should be Quatre vingts (dix) ).
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@@j.p.vanbolhuis8678 The belgians don't say octante, they say quatre-vingt. Nonante is correct however. But they do say septante (soixante-dix/seventy).
We hate Wallonië! There lazy! Grtz from Flanders!