His creations of River Song and this whole story line was absolutely Brilliant !! To have it all in his head , and watch it unfold was the Best of Dr. Who in my opinion.
haters are always the loudest. i have just recently come into the world of dr who, and am obsessed (watched all 6 series in a very short time), and i LOVED rose, and thought i would hate any woman who came after hahaha, but truth is, river song has actually become my favorite character in all the series.
Same. I love River and Rose and I remember being like "but they're not Rose" to most women after her, but I loved River. Even though Rose is still up there, River is my favorite character on doctor who.
I never really liek Doctor Who pairings, but The doctor and River, that I can get behind. They have just the right amount of drama and romance and being doomed to be perfect.
@siliconface I couldn't agree with you more. River Song intrigued me when I first saw her in Silence of the Library. And Alex and Matt have great chemistry. So I will love to see where this goes.
I don't know if people like her or not, but I really like River. Besides the time thing of the way they meet and stuff like that, she is like the only one that really can step up to the Doctor's level and I don't know, companions usually look up to him like this perfect thing and like 'Ohh... the Doctor!', I don't know how to explain..
@siliconface I love River Song's strength and ambiguity. Both her mystery and maturity attract me greatly. I'm hoping we'll get double the River Song content in Series 6! Moffat has left me wanting. . .
@CarlD2 I thought the chemistry was good then and now. Tennant's Doctor and River were more intense together, but now the chemistry is more playful. But I've liked both. They're all great actors and it's an intriguing storyline!
I love. LOVE. that you took the time to cut and paste just the important bits of the Confidentials (because, let's face it, River is the most important bit).
I think River Song is my favorite companion. :-) Her mysteries intrigue me more than the Doctor's! :-O And that's really saying something. They make a lovely couple... ;-)
Oh man, I can't wait for the next series! After watching Moff's comments here, I really think we're gonna see River's first meeting with the Doctor! :D Though I still demand a snog!
@kaiokenx3 The incarnation of River Song that Alex Kingston plays is at least the second regeneration of Amy & Rory's daughter. She would only resemble her parents in her original body.
The Doctor says in the libary that there's only one reason he would ever tell anyone his name and River knows his name so couldn't he pretty much work out who she is from that information?
@TsuoiKaze I do think River Song is popular with the general audience, but haters are always going to be the loudest voices in the fandom. In the magazine polls, she scores the highest in what fans are most looking forward to for Series 6. Clearly there are people who like her.
Heh, after watching all of Series 5, I went back and watched Silence in the Library. Now, River's reaction when she realizes the Doctor has no idea who she is is absolutely heartbesreaking. They have a wonderful little moment with River's hand on the Doctor's face and he's looking completely bewildered, while she looks sad and almost betrayed. I'll probably watch it again after Series 6, when everything is laid bare, and that scene will wreck me completely. ^_^
My theory is that river is actually not river...... Like, Melody Pond was locked away, and then River took her place, obliged to kill the doctor. Or that River and Melody were twins, and that Melody refused to kill so River actually took her place. I know that melody and river are the same person, but it would be a cool twist, I reckon.
@shmikex I was referring to the number of times River Song regenerated. Alex Kingston plays River Song's third incarnation, but only her second regeneration.
@ukrainegirl I don't actually think that Eleven was River Song's first Doctor. She makes a comment in "Flesh and Stone" about how weird it is when the Doctor goes all "baby-face". There must be a snog is Series 6. I demand that Moffat write it! Yes, I shall tweet him right now.
Arghghghghg!! I wanna know everything already. Who is she really to the doctor?!!! i know she's Amys kid and all that jazz, and i know that she's probably the Doctors Wife, but there's got to be more to it than that. Surely.
@TsuoiKaze I think her first story was one of the reasons why - Donna and the Doctor were such a tight team and she was mainly talking about things we would never see. She and the Doctor were also awkward together. Now she and Matt Smith seem just magical together.
@anastasia612 I, too, have felt that the relationship moving backwards is sad. But also intriguing. As for who was in the spacesuit at the time of the killing, that's the million dollar question right now!!! Along with it's companion question: Who IS River Song???
Ok,..here is some "semantics" I guess. People say that River is living backwards compared to the Doctor, but I think that may be off base a little. When she first [episode wise] meets the Doctor [Tennant] she says "we keep meeting up out of order" [or something similar] but never [as far as I can tell] say specifically its backwards. Basically "wrong order" could just mean as another Time Traveler their meetings are mixed up compared to the Doctors Linear Time not necessarily backwards.
You know what would be the ultimate twist? When the Doctor says, "I already know it's you, if the astronaut pulls up the helmet…and it's the Doctor from the past or future. That would be interesting...
@silviaelisa22 Thank you! I'm hoping to redesign my channel with only River Song material. I'll be going back and uploading the "most important bits" from the confidentials for the "Silence in the Library" 2parter. I might look into posting selections from the commentaries as well. . .
Ok,... here is a bit of "semantics" I guess. I see people saying that River lives backwards but I do not believe they ever actually say she is living full reverse to the Doctor,...in her first meeting of him [Tennant] she says "we keep running into each other out of order" so all that means is while she is from his future, however far, that they run into each other in something other than linear time order for him,..it could be very varied and mixed up order not necessarily backwards.
Theory: It was the Valeyard posing as the Doctor-she recognized him such-security footage showed her shooting him-but not that the Time Lords Time Scooping him to prosecute the 6th Doctor in Trial of a Time Lord
I'm doing a major DW catch up - I watched the 'season of specials' (Tenant's last), first of the Eleventh Doctor and just the first episode of the current season. So maybe I'm already wrong, but is the spaceman that kills the 1103 year old Doctor actually River Song? The Doctor knew his killer and the killer knew how to really kill the Doctor. I'd like to be wrong, but I've always felt that River's love story is a sad one and not only because her relationship is backwards.
@TheSeverusSnape Yeah I don't really see why people dislike her, but I do agree alot of people look forward to her in series 6 due to what has been told so far about who she is being revealed :P
I don't think it's Tennant's sonic considering the TARDIS can always just make another sonic, Tennant most likely recognized the design that is extremely similar to his which it's why he assumed it was his because he doesn't think think that his current sonic would be destroyed
@singalong934 Exactly what I thought…she looks way too off-guard when he dies. And she even tries to shoot the killer. The one part that confuses me is that right after she shoots at the astronaut she says under her breath, "Of course." Sigh.
not necessarily I mean obviously Mels doesn't but river has similar features to amy and rory in real life rory's hair color the greenish eyes from amy? and in NYC the pic of her and amy she has amy's hair and when she regenerated into river she said im focusing on a dress size so maybe they can manipulate it? and it's questioned at how the doctor said she used up all her regeneration in berlin
i think river killed the doctor. in the first episode on series six, the doctor dies becuase hes shot by a space man. maybe the space mans river? just a thought... x x
Pretty sure she kills Rory. The Doctor is maybe the red herring guess for her kill victim; naturally, we think it's him. But way too obvious for Moffat, I think. Rory, being her father and the Last Centurian, would be the best man she ever knew…and if they need a new companion after Amy, it'll give Amy a very solid excuse to quit Team TARDIS. But there's something deceivingly tricky in the obvious…might just be exactly what's staring us in the face.
I think she's gonna be a villian...and maybe kill Rory. I don't know. But if she really is evil or whatever, it is going to be so badass I don't even. SERIES SIX SHOULD BROADCAST ALREADY
I don't think she's his wife, i mean, he married sooooo many times (the virgin queen, Marilyn Monroe...), and they didn't know her name. i mean, they probably didn't have the level of relationship with him, but knowing his name needs something higher.
@TheBlindDyslexic All of the new fans want to know who she is, they wouldn't answer it with "Once upon a time I was on trial, and the valeyard blahblahlyndabellinghamblahblahmatrixblahblah14episodes"
i never used to have a problem with her, but slowly but surely im beginning to find myself getting increasingly sick of her and finding her more and more annoying, sorry i know these comments are mainly ppl defending her, but its honestly how i feel
His creations of River Song and this whole story line was absolutely Brilliant !! To have it all in his head , and watch it unfold was the Best of Dr. Who in my opinion.
haters are always the loudest. i have just recently come into the world of dr who, and am obsessed (watched all 6 series in a very short time), and i LOVED rose, and thought i would hate any woman who came after hahaha, but truth is, river song has actually become my favorite character in all the series.
dolphcharge me too river is the best and you always want to see her more
dolphcharge lol, same here, you watched it on Netflix I presume?
Same. I love River and Rose and I remember being like "but they're not Rose" to most women after her, but I loved River. Even though Rose is still up there, River is my favorite character on doctor who.
I never really liek Doctor Who pairings, but The doctor and River, that I can get behind. They have just the right amount of drama and romance and being doomed to be perfect.
It’s so cool looking back with foreknowledge
I know right
River is my favourite character :D Following a close second is of course the Doctor :)
@siliconface I couldn't agree with you more. River Song intrigued me when I first saw her in Silence of the Library. And Alex and Matt have great chemistry. So I will love to see where this goes.
I love that River Song knows what intrigues The Doctor and keeps teasing him with it - what fun!
I don't know if people like her or not, but I really like River. Besides the time thing of the way they meet and stuff like that, she is like the only one that really can step up to the Doctor's level and I don't know, companions usually look up to him like this perfect thing and like 'Ohh... the Doctor!', I don't know how to explain..
I miss River Song.
This woman is brilliant, great actor and she has such a unique look. :)
I find it funny that Donna gets confused when river is explaining her relationship to the doctor
Love River Song and the Doctor best storyline of them all
@siliconface I love River Song's strength and ambiguity. Both her mystery and maturity attract me greatly. I'm hoping we'll get double the River Song content in Series 6! Moffat has left me wanting. . .
@CarlD2 I thought the chemistry was good then and now. Tennant's Doctor and River were more intense together, but now the chemistry is more playful. But I've liked both. They're all great actors and it's an intriguing storyline!
I love. LOVE. that you took the time to cut and paste just the important bits of the Confidentials (because, let's face it, River is the most important bit).
I think River Song is my favorite companion. :-) Her mysteries intrigue me more than the Doctor's! :-O And that's really saying something. They make a lovely couple... ;-)
Boy I miss seasons 5 and 6 they are my favourite ^^
you...that...XD you just made my day in so many ways it's scary XD
just from the hints, oh the TINNIEST hints... I have a theory that she killed the future doctor
spoilers
🎵Tick tok goes the clock till river kills the doctor🎶
Oh man, I can't wait for the next series! After watching Moff's comments here, I really think we're gonna see River's first meeting with the Doctor! :D Though I still demand a snog!
@kaiokenx3 The incarnation of River Song that Alex Kingston plays is at least the second regeneration of Amy & Rory's daughter. She would only resemble her parents in her original body.
I totally love you for uploading these. Just... for the record ;]
The Doctor says in the libary that there's only one reason he would ever tell anyone his name and River knows his name so couldn't he pretty much work out who she is from that information?
i knew from the start she was his wife and that she killed him i didnt know how but it was not that hard to work out
Thank you, for making my day.
enjoy the clip , river song was one best guest appeared in dr who , interesting what tell the doctor
@TsuoiKaze I do think River Song is popular with the general audience, but haters are always going to be the loudest voices in the fandom. In the magazine polls, she scores the highest in what fans are most looking forward to for Series 6. Clearly there are people who like her.
@RuiningYourSelfImage Ah, thank you! Your comment made my day. I'm always happy to promote the fangirl love of River Song.
Heh, after watching all of Series 5, I went back and watched Silence in the Library. Now, River's reaction when she realizes the Doctor has no idea who she is is absolutely heartbesreaking. They have a wonderful little moment with River's hand on the Doctor's face and he's looking completely bewildered, while she looks sad and almost betrayed. I'll probably watch it again after Series 6, when everything is laid bare, and that scene will wreck me completely. ^_^
Alex:The time lords laws
Me:You mean the time laws
My theory is that river is actually not river...... Like, Melody Pond was locked away, and then River took her place, obliged to kill the doctor. Or that River and Melody were twins, and that Melody refused to kill so River actually took her place. I know that melody and river are the same person, but it would be a cool twist, I reckon.
@shmikex I was referring to the number of times River Song regenerated. Alex Kingston plays River Song's third incarnation, but only her second regeneration.
@singalong934 Lol. Actually, I think Moffat *loves* killing Rory. Or, you know, pushing him out of existence or turning him into plastic.
@ukrainegirl I don't actually think that Eleven was River Song's first Doctor. She makes a comment in "Flesh and Stone" about how weird it is when the Doctor goes all "baby-face".
There must be a snog is Series 6. I demand that Moffat write it! Yes, I shall tweet him right now.
It's fun watching this NOWING how this turns out. Spoilers!
Arghghghghg!! I wanna know everything already. Who is she really to the doctor?!!! i know she's Amys kid and all that jazz, and i know that she's probably the Doctors Wife, but there's got to be more to it than that. Surely.
@TWOFFICER1 I'm pretty sure the Doctor knows where their relationship is heading, he just doesn't know who River *is*.
I thought she regenerated three times. Once as Melody pond and the girl in the astronaut suit, then as Mel, Rory and Amy's school mate, then as River.
@TsuoiKaze I think her first story was one of the reasons why - Donna and the Doctor were such a tight team and she was mainly talking about things we would never see. She and the Doctor were also awkward together. Now she and Matt Smith seem just magical together.
I don't think River is anyone from the past, but she does remind me of Donna at times.
River Song is an alternate regeneration of the Doctor. If you read between the lines.
Yeah, thanks! Somewhy, when I first saw this episode I didn't see this scene..
I swear the guy who plays octavian plays jorah mormont in GOT
It is
Go figure ! But thanks anyway :)
@TsuoiKaze I think it was how she looked in the angel episode. She looks so much better and is so much more likable in the more recent episodes.
I'm guessing she killed the Doctor, and she's spent her life trying to make up for that.
I love River Song
@anastasia612 I, too, have felt that the relationship moving backwards is sad. But also intriguing. As for who was in the spacesuit at the time of the killing, that's the million dollar question right now!!! Along with it's companion question: Who IS River Song???
Ok,..here is some "semantics" I guess. People say that River is living backwards compared to the Doctor, but I think that may be off base a little. When she first [episode wise] meets the Doctor [Tennant] she says "we keep meeting up out of order" [or something similar] but never [as far as I can tell] say specifically its backwards. Basically "wrong order" could just mean as another Time Traveler their meetings are mixed up compared to the Doctors Linear Time not necessarily backwards.
You know what would be the ultimate twist? When the Doctor says, "I already know it's you, if the astronaut pulls up the helmet…and it's the Doctor from the past or future. That would be interesting...
I think so many fans hate her because they want the doctor all the way back to 05 and CE and theyre mad he might be "Married" LOL
I want to know who she had thought river killed, before she actually found out
please make Alex Harry Watson ppplllss even for just a moment
@silviaelisa22 Thank you! I'm hoping to redesign my channel with only River Song material. I'll be going back and uploading the "most important bits" from the confidentials for the "Silence in the Library" 2parter. I might look into posting selections from the commentaries as well. . .
Ok,... here is a bit of "semantics" I guess. I see people saying that River lives backwards but I do not believe they ever actually say she is living full reverse to the Doctor,...in her first meeting of him [Tennant] she says "we keep running into each other out of order" so all that means is while she is from his future, however far, that they run into each other in something other than linear time order for him,..it could be very varied and mixed up order not necessarily backwards.
@FSilvermane Yeah I don't think it's a perfect backwards order but the general trend is going in opposite directions.
Theory: It was the Valeyard posing as the Doctor-she recognized him such-security footage showed her shooting him-but not that the Time Lords Time Scooping him to prosecute the 6th Doctor in Trial of a Time Lord
@blorgensteen Ah, but now there was the clone that got made in this recent series as well, so maybe thats something?
BUT TECHNICALLY SHE DOES KILL THE DOCTOR?!!
I mean yeah she then changes the fixed point but it still happened
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong
I'm doing a major DW catch up - I watched the 'season of specials' (Tenant's last), first of the Eleventh Doctor and just the first episode of the current season. So maybe I'm already wrong, but is the spaceman that kills the 1103 year old Doctor actually River Song? The Doctor knew his killer and the killer knew how to really kill the Doctor. I'd like to be wrong, but I've always felt that River's love story is a sad one and not only because her relationship is backwards.
moffat gave away the biggest spoilers for the next 2 seasons in this vid
@blorgensteen in the new season the doctor got shot...could it be that river song did it.
Did you ever see the first or last episode of series 6?
@TheSeverusSnape Yeah I don't really see why people dislike her, but I do agree alot of people look forward to her in series 6 due to what has been told so far about who she is being revealed :P
@animelover5076 Could the child inside be a younger her?
STEVEN MADE A MISTAKE WHEN THE TWELTH DOCTOR GAVE TENNANTS SONIC TO RIVER TENNANTS SONIC WAS BROKEN IN THE ELEVENTH HOUR I ONLY JUST REALISED
I don't think it's Tennant's sonic considering the TARDIS can always just make another sonic, Tennant most likely recognized the design that is extremely similar to his which it's why he assumed it was his because he doesn't think think that his current sonic would be destroyed
@danaandersen97 What about the Doctor?
There are some rumors that River Song could be The Master but its only a rumor O_o it would be nuts if she is .
Who is river? i love river
river's identity gets revealed in series 6 i can't wait
@singalong934 Exactly what I thought…she looks way too off-guard when he dies. And she even tries to shoot the killer. The one part that confuses me is that right after she shoots at the astronaut she says under her breath, "Of course."
Sigh.
@danaandersen97 Fair enough, especially River!
When was the last scene?
not necessarily I mean obviously Mels doesn't but river has similar features to amy and rory in real life rory's hair color the greenish eyes from amy? and in NYC the pic of her and amy she has amy's hair and when she regenerated into river she said im focusing on a dress size so maybe they can manipulate it? and it's questioned at how the doctor said she used up all her regeneration in berlin
Season 5, episode 13 - "The Big Bang". It's the season finale.
ook!😀they were a interesting couple
@whateveryouthinkzzz ME!! xD I do love Alex! but I hated her in that moment and actually loved her at the same time x-/
i think river killed the doctor. in the first episode on series six, the doctor dies becuase hes shot by a space man. maybe the space mans river? just a thought... x x
@TsuoiKaze I know it makes me upset. =(
nice Sherlock reference XD
and now if you watch Angels Take Manhattan.... we finally know...
Third. Second was Mels.
@TsuoiKaze If River were male everyone would think she was a badass. And she might not be hated so much if she were younger.
(spoilrs if you havent seen final episode of 2011) shes amy's kid
Pretty sure she kills Rory. The Doctor is maybe the red herring guess for her kill victim; naturally, we think it's him. But way too obvious for Moffat, I think. Rory, being her father and the Last Centurian, would be the best man she ever knew…and if they need a new companion after Amy, it'll give Amy a very solid excuse to quit Team TARDIS. But there's something deceivingly tricky in the obvious…might just be exactly what's staring us in the face.
I think she's gonna be a villian...and maybe kill Rory. I don't know. But if she really is evil or whatever, it is going to be so badass I don't even.
SERIES SIX SHOULD BROADCAST ALREADY
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I don't think she's his wife, i mean, he married sooooo many times (the virgin queen, Marilyn Monroe...), and they didn't know her name. i mean, they probably didn't have the level of relationship with him, but knowing his name needs something higher.
Isn't it clear that she killed the doctor? But knowing Steven, that would be too simple ...
River Song is so beautiful but how did Amy and Rory have a baby with no resemblance to either of them.
2:47 !!!!
Ooo. So she earned her pardon in this episode, and was a free woman in the episodes with 10? Am I getting this right?
She was working towards her pardon in this episode, but was eventually released upon Eleventh's erasing himself from every database.
3rd incarnation
@TheBlindDyslexic All of the new fans want to know who she is, they wouldn't answer it with "Once upon a time I was on trial, and the valeyard blahblahlyndabellinghamblahblahmatrixblahblah14episodes"
haha.. Sherlock.... :)
she killed him
But she does look a little like Arthur Dervil :)
he he he i no who river song is and who she killed...
i never used to have a problem with her, but slowly but surely im beginning to find myself getting increasingly sick of her and finding her more and more annoying, sorry i know these comments are mainly ppl defending her, but its honestly how i feel
the bbc av canned this show :(
she is really 48 but she look 25
1 person has no life :P