Steph Curry changed the game FOREVER?! Stephen A. & Kendrick Perkins DEBATE | First Take
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- Опубліковано 9 тра 2024
- On First Take, Stephen A. Smith, Monica McNutt and Kendrick Perkins talk through Steph Curry’s 50-PT night in Game 7 as the Warriors defeated the Kings.
0:00 The best PG ever?
3:10 Kendrick Perkins’ take on the discussion
6:30 Steph Curry’s greatness is sometimes overlooked?
8:30 Is Steph a top-10 player of all time?#ESPN #FirstTake #NBAonESPN #StephenA
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Monica and Perk real quiet this morning after Steph proved them wrong AGAIN LMAOO
W them tho for being humble enough to concede and finally give bro his props😂
@@njabulomkhize1130 check out what skip is saying 😅😅😅😅😅 feel sry for shannon to have to listen to him every morning
@@njabulomkhize1130 this dude perk will start hating Steph again next series watch. He’s a certified Steph hater😂
@@njabulomkhize1130 Don’t fall for those tricks! Give it a few weeks or after the first few games of the Dubs-Lakers series, and they’re right back at their shenanigans 💀
They be hating on the warriors for no reason, I hope the warriors keep proving them wrong lol
Big Perk just earned my respect. The media is finally coming around and giving Curry the recognition he truly deserves
more like Big Idiot
Dude will hate on him next round just wait 😅
He cried for kd when he blew a 3-1 lead f you
Man said "the media" like the media dont be on his meat more than plenty already
@@primoanimations8674 Dude. Steph is the most disrespected superstar. Are you in a cave or something?
Or just straight up trolling.
Let’s not forget that Steph went 20/38= 52%. He did it in a game 7, against a tough Kings team. That has has a high energy and tough home crowd.
Only Lebum bandwagons don't like Curry, watch if Curry lost this series to Lebron, these LeMommy daughters will dig all his accolades and discredit him and spread a narrative. LMAO 😂🤣🙌
@@BullyMaguire387 You sound like an idiot.
@@buzzinfromda4z943sounds like Steph lives rent fee in your head lmao 👀
@@buzzinfromda4z943 See you lactose intolerant Lebum bandwagons, you all keep crying about KD when Lebum had KLove and Kyrie who can also score 40+ a night, before KD arrive Curry don't have that kind of consistent player, keep making excuses. LMAO 🤡
@@buzzinfromda4z943without bron running to dwade bosh and ray allen he doesn’t get those ring with the heat😂. Difference between Steph and bron is Steph never even changed teams to ring chase like bron did. Just give bro his props
Steph Curry has revolutionized the game of basketball forever. He deserves his flowers. Definitely one of the best players of all-time.
U think hes better than me and my uncle? Ur buggin.
@@8Trails50 talk to em Bobby let me know 🎉
@@8Trails50 definitely not better than kings bobby Jackson
So what exactly did he do. He's wanted a greatest point guards of all time yes. But he has the green light to shoot anywhere like no other player. If he was on another team will he be shooting like this I think not.
How? By shooting 18 3s a game?
Stephen Curry will always be my favorite player to watch play basketball. Him and Kevon Looney carried us most of the series! Loon's rebounding has just been phenomenal, and Steph is just ridiculous! Lebron vs Steph/Lakers vs Warriors...I can't wait for the next round 💙💛
Looney was unbelievable. Curry and him carried the team. The other guys were good defensively but offensively they were shooting all kinds of bricks.
If we start 0 2 again, especially again these Lakers with Lebron, I might just not make it 😅
@@kabysummit5801 They gonna get sweep if they let Lakers took first 2 games. They need to do whatever it takes to get those 2 first home games and get atleast 1 road win. Which is really hard task since Lebron will be super aggressive in this series for sure.
@@BullyMaguire387 curry is not bron hes not finna get swept no way
@@johnaajohni2129 you’re right he’s not Lebron, because Bron is undisputedly better than curry
"The greatest shooter GAWD has ever created."
If i had a dollar for every time Stephen A. said that 🙄
Na fr 😂
When really it was dell curry’s nut
@@Kevin.Costner. and his Mother pus*y
Lol that’s hilarious
You'd have Stephen A's salary 😂😂😂
Steph is not just a shooter, his ball handling is underrated and his passing is hall of fame
Leader ship is off the charts as well.!!!
Ball handling underrated but his passing isn't hall of fame great imo. He's a solid passer though, but I've not seen him do anything spectacular as a passer, like maybe a Jokic.
If Anything His Passing Better Than Joker, Jokic is 7ft Can See Over Mostly Everybody On Court Curry Is 6’1
@@baggbby So why isn't every 7 footer a great passer then? It's more rare for a big man to have vision and touch like Jokic. Than it is for a guard who has been handling the ball and running the offense for their entire life.
It’s funny at this point Lebron and Steph have full respect for each other while both fan bases hate each other 😂. Hopefully we get a good series where everyone is healthy because it could be a good one.
You don't know either of them personally so shut up....
Because lakers fans always trying to sneak dis 😂😂😂
@@shieldsroel6606 I mean both fan bases are annoying.
LeBron the goat and steph an all time point guard i.m.h.p. LeBron deserves credit for beating steph in a finals and steph deserves credit for beating lebron, especially after doing it again while not playing eachother in the finals
@@datsapaddlin you right 🤣🤣
Only few players have changed the game like Curry has.
no one changed the game like he did bro seriously he just killed the big 5 who cant shoot
Kwame Brown changed the game big time
@@yamaniyoussefMJ changed the game back then
@@kasperrieberg3495 😂
@@yamaniyoussef They invented the 3 second violation, to make Shaq less effective and it inadvertently made all big men less effective. Then they changed the rule intentional fouls , to stop the Hack a Shaq defence.
The 3 second rule also allows for cutters to run through the paint and towards the basket which is critical to GSW's style of play.
Shaq is half responsible for it.
Steph's ability as a passer is underrated because 1. He's the greatest shooter and 2. Draymond Green's facilitation abilities. In the 2014 season Steph averaged 8.5 ast and had 6 games with 15 or more assists. He can play that style if he wants to, it's just less valuable than being the greatest shooter of all time.
That part
its also the Warriors system. Its not meant for one guy to dominate the ball like Nash with Phoenix or Westbrook post KD in OKC. Everyone touches the ball in GS in the motion offense
Plus his off ball movement in a constant motion offense limits his assists totals. But if you actually watch the game, you’ll clearly see he’s one of the best passers in the league
@@theavatar9191 Yea he’s at least a top 5 pg of all time. I’m not gonna give him THE BEST ever. That’s still Magic. But I have Steph in the top 3
@@revealingtruth3329 You have Magic at 1, Steph at 3, who is number 2 for you?
Steph been cracked my top 10 after the title last year
Not mine
@@thesecond8187 but how?? Unless your a hater he has to be top 10
@@tyranthunder6666 not a hater he just doesn’t have the accolades or storylines.
@BuzzinFromda4z higher than duncan
@BuzzinFromda4z sorry you don’t have Duncan or Curry in your top 10? Your top 10 is one fkd up list my dude
Steph?!? More playoff wins than MJ??! That’s nuts and iconic!
Well until 1997 the first round was only 5 gms plus mj teams would sweep the 1st round 3-0 and he retired 3 times 93, 98, & 2003 so🤔
@@courtney1708 That has nothing to do with the stat. The stat that was presented is the winning percentage, that means that it doesn't matter if they played more or less games, it is the number of wins vs the number of games played that counts. So Steph has a better win ratio in the playoffs, than the rest. Now, that doesn't come as a surprise, since having KD in the mix meant a lot of sweeps during his time with the Warriors.
My guy cant do math and just counter argues without number crunching. Lol
@@mike.t.angelo @8:18 Stephen A Smith said that Steph Curry has won more playoff series’ than MJ and others. So @Courtney is also right. MJ retired multiple times, which means he didn’t play as much playoff games as he could have and as a result didn’t win as much as he could have. As far as playoff winning percentage, you’re correct.
@@anthonyejike5594 he didn’t say he won more playoffs series he said he had a better winning percentage in playoff in all his series. Jordan won 30 playoff series curry won 23. Lebron is the alltime leader with 40 playoffs series wins 💯
Thank you perk for actually doing some analysis and bringing up the fact that steph is and has been one of the best paint finishers in history at his small size…all stephen A tired slow ah can ever say is “greatest shooter ever” 15 times
Exactly this, dude is one of the best finishers at the rim and the greatest FT shooter of all-time. They always mention his 3pt shooting.
did u not listen at all? Stephen A brought one of the biggest points anyone has ever heard so far which is Curry leading all of the hall of famers in play off wins and percentage. That in itself should shut every doubter up ever.
@@genexis_ no that’s a stupid point, or let me not say it’s a stupid point..it’s just one of those things the typical hater is just gonna be like “hE hAd kD”…steph has done too many all time great things individually to try and use a team success stat against haters
@@nickbh15 and all the hofers curry has a better playoff win % than had another hofer teammate just like steph had Kd lol so them haters just be chattin
If Curry can finish over AD then we are talking, because AD is a glass cleaner.
People don’t talk about his leadership enough. I think his humbleness is great for the team, sharing the rock. It’s the joga bonito of the hard wood floor.
steph is the greatest combo guard we have ever seen. his movement without the ball, and the ability to create plays and get his own shot off whenever.
greatest point guard ever 🤞🏾
@@imthatguy.6984 not even a point guard. 5 assists and 5 TOs isn't great point guard numbers but 35 points are good shooting guard numbers.
@@stonedecatur6602 you’re just looking at numbers with the way the warriors play they wouldn’t be effective with Steph dominating the ball enough to average 8-10 assists per game but he make plays for his guys all the time and there’s been many games when he needed to he would get double digit assists
If he wanted to he can easily average 10 assists
@@stonedecatur6602 if that’s the case Westbrook not a pg cuz he average 31ppg for a season or damion lillard not a pg neither. The way the pg position has been played has changed since magic your a 🤡
@@willjohnwick6911 assists numbers and bringing the ball up and running the offense says point guard. Attacking the paint and dishing to the open man says point guard. Not this fake floor spacing and gravity
LeBron vs Steph matchup is gonna be wild!
Lebron is finished, it's gonna be one sided
@@Vriin7 Lakeshow in 7. Know one is guarding AD 😂
@@marcelineniz4135 warriors in 6 nobody can guard curry😂 and AD soft Looney and draymond gonna take care of him
💯 this will be the rematch since the bubble when Lebron sent GSW home.
@@user-sh7fr9wj1h I already know Steph can not be guarded , but so is AD ( when he’s not injured)
That playoff series win percentage stat was wild to hear! Perk had his perhaps best analysis of anything he’s ever talked about. Definitely eye opening video!
Let's be real, Perk didn't read that book he's quoting 😂
😂😂
Stop trollin, but that's funny
tbf he probably has the version that just has the funny-wunny pictures in it on his bookshelf lol
He read the preface, that’s where he got the the Kobe quote.
Probably read enough of it to reference the book
I wish i had the job of these reporters. Its so easy to talk about the same 40 topics every year
It's harder than u think
It's unfortunate that it had to take a series like this for some to finally realize that Mr. Curry has changed the game of basketball. Each time people think he'll fail and then he proves them wrong, suddenly he has changed the game. It's like he has to reinvent himself each time for some to become believers. I rarely bet on people but Mr. Curry, Usain Bolt and Tom Brady are 3 individuals that I've never bet against in their respective fields.
Is that you Skip? 😂
@@tompriestner9007 skip doesn’t like steph
Mike D'Antoni changed the game of basketball in all of the ways that people are trying to credit Curry for. Curry is the greatest shooter I've ever seen, but that isn't the reason that NBA players are shooting more 3s and playing at a higher pace. Analytics had proved that 3s were being undervalued, and the shift towards 3 pointers was being made before Curry had ever taken an NBA dribble. It's unfortunate that Curry is being seen as some kind of revolutionary basketball player when instead he is the beneficiary of coming into the league right when the game was already changing in his favor.
@@TP-pq9xx facts
@@TP-pq9xx I agree that Mike opened the door. Spread the floor, pick and roll, now the gaurd has three options. Shoot, drive, pass but before Curry his philosophy still needed a player who had the skillset to display the offense in its most devastating form. Curry i feel redefined what a "bad shoot" was. Because a lot of times in the past, taking the open three well behind the arc was settling.
Do people forget that Steph is a really good passer as well? He can lead a fastbreak like no other because he has the long range threat and can drive
That’s the most coherent Kendrick Perkins take I’ve ever heard, finally some sense!
Monica quick take was perfect! His shooting is so elite you don’t need anything else. It does enough to have him with 4 rings and counting. And he’s a great leader
Most of the ppl who put these older players before Steph never saw those guys play..just read stats and stats never tell the whole story. The league now is wayyy different than the league back in Magic's day etc. Steph is doing things at 6'3 that we NEVER saw before and that def makes him one of the greatest period. Ppl gotta categorize it to water down his excellence but he's one of the best ive ever seen. He's a goat
That's not what's in question, were talking about point guards, he's not better then Magic, we never seen someone magic's size do what he does. We've seen players like steph, take Allen iverson who couldn't shoot nearly as good steph but was far better athlete an just as good If not better then around the basket.
@@flexhenry3 i think it's the other way around. Lebron has Magic's passing skills. There's numerous throughout history who played PG in a high level while standing 6'7-6'9 whilst Curry is one in a million. I've watched 00's NBA and never I once saw AI relocates and shoot like Curry did 🤦🏻♂️
@@dhenagapito6575 Tiny Archibald, Isiah Thomas and Allen Iverson
Curry is 2nd greatest point guard after magic Johnson and top 10 player ever that’s it
@@dhenagapito6575 To be fair, AI didn't have to relocate like Curry.
Everyone needs to take a moment to recognize the moment we are in. We are witnessing history watching Steph. We will tell our grandkids about Steph. Live in the moment, and appreciate his greatness.
Magic Johnson did make us believe tall man can pass, but it's nothing compare to Steph Curry's impact if you talk about changing the NBA game
You didn't even play in the nba 😂, magic would be unstoppable in this generation
@@Kwame92. you didn't even read my words
Great show tonight. Absolutely love watching any sport when the playoffs are on, and it was well covered by the whole team. Stephen A smith suit was a beauty tonight, best suit I’ve seen him wear. Loved it.
8:07 perfect sound for the dunk in the highlight 😂
finally kp giving steph his flowers. what he's done, what he's DOING at 6'2" make him undebatably the most skilled offensive player ever, and he is absolutely better than magic, who is a legend in his own right, but steph is different man.
He's not better than Magic Johnson. It seems like every great player of the past has their legacies and greatness downplayed for recency bias except Michael Jordan and then Kobe after his unfortunate passing. With that being said, Curry shoots better than Magic but that's it. His impact on winning has resulted in 2 rings without the super team and one of those were against LeBron without his two best players. Context is a major factor when you start saying things
@@cojack636 KD is overrated, his ability to put the ball in the hoop is amazing but he doesn’t elevate his team the same way as other greats. People are more worried about Steph exploding than Durant and the defence required to stop Steph from going 60 is the reason everyone has record high efficiency playing on his team.
Even when KD played with Steph it was Steph’s team, not Durant’s
@@cojack636 he is better
@@cojack636 your argument falls flat when you see the absolute utter lack of success KD has had elsewhere. Magic had Kareem for EVERY SINGLE ONE of his championships. To pretend like Magic was some lone god while Curry got carried is a joke.
Magic is incredible, but he had one of the all time greats by his side for all 5 of his championships, as well as an aging Elgin Baylor, Bob Mcadoo, and others. If you want to play the downplay game, Magic played in a dying era of the league where the competitiveness went down and dominance was easier. Look at the unbelievable parity from this season and tell me that the competition isn’t as fierce (if not fiercer) than it was in the 80’s.
Magic is incredible, but you can’t blame recency bias as the only reason Steph is getting put above Magic. He’s an incredibly efficient rim finisher, the greatest shooter to ever live without question, a nightmare for defenses, a good passer, an above average defender (barely but he is), and has led the team that drafted him to the greatest regular season record in history, 4 championships, and now has the highest scoring Game 7 in NBA history. The dude is a monster and he’s done much of it without a true superstar by his side.
He blew a 3-1, yeah, but it was against arguably the GOAT. LBJ wouldn’t be talked about as a contender for GOAT status if he didn’t occasionally become an unstoppable juggernaut.
@@cojack636 curry is better then Magic. Curry completely revolutionized the game and is the greatest pg in history
Curry's shooting ability is so great that his handles and ability to drive and score w/ and w/o contact at the hoop often gets overlooked even though he's been at the top of the league at this as well. Also, yeah Curry doesn't always have the ball in his hands, but he does most of the time as a PG. This shouldn't be a knock as a "combo guard playing PG". When he's off ball, what is he doing? He's either running laps around the defenders until the ball comes back to him or he's setting screens for his teammates on much larger defenders (eg. screening even Sabonis during this Kings series). He's not just standing there letting others work. What kind of PG or player his size can or will even do these things? He's basically peaking at 35 years old too..
Well said!!Period!!!
Funny thing is SAS opened the show exactly the way I felt this morning. The frustration with my Knicks losing was dulled somewhat with watching Steph drop 50 in game 7. Even more so that Steph is my fav NBA player all time. It was great to witness such a historic performance. The man seems to up his game every year.
It is one of those weird quirks in sports (that I love) that pretty much all knicks fans love Steph Curry so much. Congrats on the first round win Knicks fans.
Here come kendrick with that breathing 😂
every time😂😂
Sounds like he has a cheeseburger stock in his throat
Ikr😂...
For those who think Steph is only a good shooter do not know basketball. Have you seen Steph's passing skills, his ball handles, his free throw ability, his plays in the paint, his team leadership, his under-pressure performance?
Yall coming around, and I love it. Steph is the true point god
I agreed with you 💯 Big Perkins ❤❤❤
He's definitely in the discussion 100% but for me he's number 1
So ur saying curry is a top 4 player in NBA history? So he just leapfrogged Kobe? LMAO, stop it
@@kckc7140 Kobe imo has never been top 10. Kobe is top 15 all time.
@@giovannirodriguez4444 LMAO 🤣 stop talking basketball bro, I can't even discuss basketball with u, 4th leading scorer in NBA history, 12x all nba defensive selections, 15x all nba selections, 18x all-star selections, 5x champ, 2x fmvp, and was literally the face of the nba for the 2000's, go watch some tennis Lil fella
@@giovannirodriguez4444 Kobe is a top 4 player he’s better than Kenton and way better than Steph yah num nut queen tur
honestly, that’s a valid argument, I got Steph as my number 3 currently but another ring puts him at 2. 2 more rings and he’ll be my #1. As of now, it’s MJ, bron, curry. Bron will be top 10 in every major statistical category when he’s done which is crazy, and MJ is 6-0 with no game 7s. All 3 though when bron and Steph are done, this rating in any order I wouldn’t be mad at. Steph is no where near the other two in terms of defense but his offensive impact is unmatched.
Magic Johnson's post game was literally unstoppable. With his skyhooks from both hands, and then his passing off the post was literally sublime. I'm top of that his fast breaks, his mid-rain shot and free throws which were underly money, the only thing I could think that Steph Curry is better than magic is deep shooting and is off ball game. And his handle.
But he’s better than Magic in the paint too 😂😂 , with better handle! Magic is the better passer and defender. Magic is #1 to me but if Steph wins again this year it’s over lol I’m changing my mind
@@Hmf_figga Steph needs to win two more rings and a mvp to jump magic. Cause them KD rings don’t count to me. Magic stepped as a rookie when Kareem got hurt. Curry didn’t finish the job when KD was hurt in 2019.
@@thesecond8187 A lot of people use KD as a negative in Steph's legacy which I don't agree, Magic played with a top 5 player of all time in Kareem for the majority of his career yet Kareem isn't used as a reason to discredit magic, I believe Magic is still the GOAT PG but KD wasn't a negative on Steph curry's legacy
@@thesecond8187 Though there is some truth in the 2019 finals, Steph still played incredible despite the raptors having the box and 1 system to specifically stop curry and yet curry still produces, though his inconsistency in the clutch that series is what I agree on that he didn't finish the job
@@jcaicap5483 KD was a negative on curry’s legacy, you were a 73-9 team who choked a lead, and instead of trying to be better for what you have you decided you need a former MVP to beat your opposition? That’s a terrible look. And without KD, are we looking at Steph the same with 2 rings?
RESPECT 🙌
It's hard to let go of the past. It's always been that way. It's the main reason greatness doesn't get appreciated till it's gone. It usually works out like "it's been a decade since his retirement and we still haven't seen anyone that's had the impact on the sport the he has" Just enjoy what you seeing because when he's gone it's unlikely you will see this again. That's when the legend grows when you look on the court and he's not their and it's not fun to watch anymore.
Steph is the greatest leader the NBA has ever seen. He will play so selflessly whilst taking his shots when the team need him to. If a teammate has an open 3 he normally finds them. He lets possessions go not touching the ball but creating space for somebody else to shoot. He makes everyone buy into the system. He doesn't come out and blame people. He creates bonds that his teammates cherish. He celebrates his teammates wins as much as his own. He's drama free.
First time hearing Perkins actually defend curry
I couldn't believe it 😊
Best conversation about steph curry on any show EVER!!! Steph finally got all the right points about his game and not just a shooter at that height. Respect 🫡
I agree with big perks on this one.. word!
People forget that it requires so much more skill to play the game at that level being Steph’s size. He doesn’t have the size to go through anyone like Lebron does or the height to rise up and shoot over people people like KD, or even Kobe. It takes a lot more skill and craftiness to score like that consistently. And what he’s doing now is even more impressive than when he first got this mvp’s because every single teams entire defensive plan is centered around him now.
We need to start thinking about Steph from a similar perspective that Kobe viewed A.I. Specifically, that his opponents are lucky that he isn't taller.
Seriously, imagine Steph at 6'6 or taller. 🤯
That comparison only works with A.I because A.I was extremely explosive and usually the fastest on the court with a 45inch vertical. Making steph taller doesnt really make him better because he is limited athletically. I would say a taller steph makes him luca, or bird
@@flexhenry3 you think it’s hard to guard his shot now…imagine trying to at 6’6”. If he kept the same skill set, his ability to get to basket and shoot…he would be even better. He wouldn’t be Luka, Luka wishes he could shoot like Steph. His skill level would be magnified by being taller.
Imagine chris paul at 6'6
@@flexhenry3 with Steph's quickness & stamina (and the fact than he CAN already dunk but doesn't utilize it often), he's clearly more athletically gifted than Bird or Luka. They're literally just taller.
Steph is also usually one of the fastest on the court. Giving him a little more size amplifies his defense automatically, and makes him a potential post-up problem.
Facts
Good stuff perk let's go warriors nd a Smith
Here we go
I trashed Perk last year for his absurd takes, but I have to finally say respect. You dropped bars here.
Stephen gets his teammates open without the ball in his hands, that in itself means he’s one of the greatest playmakers of all time
Facts💙💯lebron vs curry gine be epic 😭😭😭💙💯
Yassss, yasss, yasss to all of it…
Because I am here for all of it,
uh huh!!!!
All I know is someone's going home this round. LeBron or Steph, someone's going home and I am loving it🤣🤣🤣
This is the first time I agree with everything Perk says in First Take
Its weird but yeah
Im not a perk fan at all but this was one of his best takes. Especially it being about steph
Why do people say that Steph is just a 3 point shooter? I have never seen a better finisher than Steph in my life. The euro steps, the finishing against bigs, the the one hand floaters My GoD he is just insane
Steph does so much more than just shoot the ball lol. He’s one of the best rebounding guards and he passes very well and fluidly. He’s also led the league in steals before, so he definitely plays defense.
He been the greatest PG of all time 👌👌👌👌👌
no doubt🏆
hes not a PG though, hes a SG. Everything about his play screams SG
@@thomaszouki2781 he's not really a SG either. He's a combo guard he plays both spots just as seamlessly and effectively that's what makes him so dangerous. He's the greatest Combo guard of all time.
@@winssports4830 has he ever lead the league in assist?
@@flexhenry3 no but not every PG does but that's why I said he's not a PG or a SG he's a combo of both. He doesn't play either position full time. He's capable of leading the league in assists but they have Draymond Green and if he's not passing and orchestrating the offense he's useless out there on offense.
Love it when perk makes argument for steph curry .... quite emphatic
Ok Perk! Solid 💯
Finally getting the credit Steph deserves
Best PG of all time 💯
He's not a true point guard💯
Greatest or not we are BLESSED to have this guy
The robotic Cyber-Perk has a glitch.......call the techs.
Steph is the 2nd best PG all time right now. To me if Steph wins another championship and another finals MVP then this is a real conversation of who is the greatest point guard of all-time.
He’s not second best…. He’s been the best for a year now. OPEN YOUR EYES
@@pranavreddy7243 it’s very close don’t get me wrong. I believe he’s more talented then Magic. From a legacy standpoint if he can accomplish the things I said one more time he’s the greatest PG all-time.
@@Onthehop08. wait so if he doesn’t win another one, but let’s say he goes to another conference finals. And let’s say he doesn’t have draymond cuz they can’t pay him. He still won’t have be the best pg ever? See the whole you need to win another ring thing is really not here nor there
Until someone younger than Stephen A is the face of ESPN, the mainstream media will never put any pg over magic
Step a shooting gaurd
@@jefflacourjames9050 i understand you from a scheming standpoint, but On one hand, magic Johnson will get credited for being the best pg ever for dropping 42 at center in the finals. On the other hand, if Steph isn’t the starting point guard for that team, then who is? Nobody else has the skill set aside from Steph. It’s just more effective to use him as a shooter.
Draymond been running the offense,and he's averaging more assist then curry,you don't have a title of been pg by your name am going of by what I see,I see him as shooting gaurd just like LeBron listed as a small forward but he's been running his teams as a point gaurd so I'm not going to let a title tell me otherwise I have seen with my eyes, mj,Kobe,step in that order greatest sg all time
@@jefflacourjames9050 you can’t go off of what you see if you see draymond as a pg. you won’t look acknowledge official positions, but you’ll acknowledge averages? Jokic averages 9 asts, initiates the offense, and nobody would call him a pg. In fact, primary ball handlers are taking on more playmaking responsibilities (and averaging more asts as a result) regardless of their position. Draymond knows what shots the offense is meant to generate and they let him facilitate bc if it’s not that, then he’s literally unplayable. And you’re calling Steph a sg in the same breath as Kobe and MJ even though they both dominated the ball???
Perk got respect for this one. Good take well said.
Perk nailed it. Also, to what the HOFers are saying, I thought Steph also brought the gravity effect and the assists.
At this point everything they talking about is irrelevant on any show if the discussion isn’t… “If Steph beats Lebron again whether or not he wins the chip or not but especially if he does Curry has had a better career & has an overwhelming winning record against Lebron when it matters
I've never seem anyone perform a playoff game the same way that MJ did back in the day. He is the modern day MJ.
Kobe against the suns in 06 an 2010..
Lebron in 12,16,18,20...
@@WADESGOATED literally what is he talking about😭
If he was something close to MJ he'd have got that chip in 2016
@@WADESGOATED lebron pass first guy not like MJ, kobe or Steph
No doubt
Finally perk has a great take!!! Amen!!!
No matter how anybody feels about Steph, guarantee he’ll be top 5 after all is said and done. He can probably play into his 40s if he wants
Bro he's already 2nd best all time behind jordan no matter what happens from here on out. He js literally the mj of this Era. Double the ratings as any other team. Road games always sold out. Road fans actually cheering for steph. The way he completely changed the game of basketball. His brilliance is only measured because we had something very similar to it. That is michael jordan. Steph is literally everything mj was in his Era.
@@ivotenotocensorship5247 LOL ... come on bruh. 🤣😂🤣
No he's not
@JordanTheGoat-zq8ky jordan is the GOAT. Steph is 2nd right behind him. Of steoh gets 6 Chips then i will officially put steph curry as the all time greatest ever.
@@ivotenotocensorship5247 don't ever about basketball ever again
Steph isn't technically a point guard. He's a 6'3 SHOOTING guard who needs to be listed as a PG thanks to his height. Michael Jordan is listed as a SG but Steph is a far better shooter than him. Most players listed as PGs like Steph and Dame are really SGs masquerading as PGs. You can make a case Isiah Thomas wasn't a true PG either.
The best PURE point guard I've ever seen but he never ever gets enough credit because he's white is JOHN STOCKTON. I tend to kill the all-time Lakers team with Magic, Jerry, Kobe, LeBron, Kareem, Shaq, Elgin, Wilt, and AD in NBA 2K23 by picking the 90s stars. Jordan will score 110+ points and 20 assists. Stockton will give me 50 pts and 15 assists. Stockton kills in 2K23. He hits almost every shot. His only flaw is his height at 6'1. Magic can block his shot really easily.
Don’t forget to talk about the way ppl guard him and he still manage do do what he does
I would like to hear from former shooters like Freddie Brown Kevin Grevey, Brian Winters and Dale Ellis.
Ain’t no way he said he was talking to hall of famers who said only thing steph does to effect the game is shoot…I refuse to believe that was an actual convo with people who actually know basketball
What other skill? Let’s be real rn. It’s the shooting
@@_jeffrey359 are you kidding me?😂😂 One of the greatest guard finishers as perk said he ranks up there w all time bigs. one of the greatest ball handlers he is widely known as a top ball handler in nba history. his playmaking and gravity and the way he sets up his teammates is always widely talked about like cmon now don’t b a casual his offensive game has no weaknesses
@@amirihatecaps4079 all you said was prove my point. He don’t affect the game both sides of the court. He doesn’t make the plays. It’s the Warriors system that makes the plays half the times. In other words, the part is set for the winning team to cause destruction. So let’s say I give you that, he’s a playmaker, all you attributing is Steph is just a scorer. What happens if the shots ain’t falling? GSW is doomed
@@_jeffrey359 stop hating weirdo
@@_jeffrey359 mf you don't know basketball if you think all Steph do is shoot the basketball
Did she just say Steph does one thing? I'm out 🚪 🚶
Kp smartest take and only take that has ever come out of his mouth
Good take Perk
Any mention of height is irrelevant. Steph just gets it done.
It is relevant. Many highschools are saying unless you are 6'6 and up, you may not want to pursue a career in bball. Steph proves them wrong
Steph the greatest pg, if he wins this year I want that Jordan convo 💯
You can want it but you ain’t gonna get it
Jordan is above everyone to be honest. The convo is just for fun but no one really compares. That’s just the truth.
😂
@@datsapaddlin Na let's have it, yall compare Bron to Jordan, and I think steph is better than Bron with another win
@@magneticqubzian6902 I actually don’t 😂. Jordan is in his own league.
What I like between the match of GS and SAC is that both teams are healthy! there are no what if’s. unlike the lakers vs Memphis
His shooting skills is so insane that people forget other things... he is the best FT shooter, best teammate, best off ball player and etc
Explain How is ring and MVP argument criteria when it comes to Lebron Vs Jordan but when it’s curry it’s all about “change the game” or “unanimous MVP” 😂 mvp is mvp and Magic has more MVP, more ring, more FMVP, More all nba first team. And he only played in 12 years and reached the finals 9 times. Double standards is crazy and this is where they get caught cuz they prefer once personality and not being involved in politics.
Great point!💯
cry some more, whether best pg is steph or its magic, it does not change the fact that lebron is nowhere near jordan's level
It's more than just rings while MJ is the GOAT lol.
@@Project_N89 can't take anyone who still says "cry more" as a comeback lmao thats played out kid
THANK YOU!!
steph is top 3, MJ Bron Curry in that order💯
crazy asl
Facts 💯
Better than kobe?
ur nuts bro, prisoner of the moment 😂😂
^ you are a stupid hater
Everyone's Take's were actually very spot on and in awe of Curry, as they and we should be.
Steven a give di man hus flowers, he is bro.
They will never give Steph his just due all because of his size. It’s pathetic.
They will never give him his flowers due to changing LeBron’s legacy as the GOAT. ESPN/ABC put a lot of time into making Lebron into MJ. Lebron has a 1-3 finals record against him. That’s why his fans always use the KD narrative against him.
Steph Curry isn’t even a point guard fr lol. Now if we wanna talk about small guards then idk who’s greater than him at this point
Stop this braindead argument. Is a small guard an actual position labled in nba games ? This debate is who played at their specific position better. Theyre both listed as poitn guards. The cope is mad
@@jaydethomas7622 what’s actually brain dead is thinking position less basketball players don’t exist 🤔
@@SSJRome i dont think they don’t exist and i agree that steph isnt your regular point guard. But saying hes NOT a point guard is literally you just trying to cope with him being the best pg of ever. You cannot deny that hes a point guardnitw literally the position he plays, weather he plays it how YOU want him to or bot, hes better than magic. And you’ve conceded already.
@@SSJRome so again whats actually braindead is saying curry isnt a point guard. Its such a terrible argument. Theres no debate for magic so you say steph isnt a pg. literally npcs.
@@jaydethomas7622 Steph dropping 50 in a game 7 doesn’t automatically make him better than magic as a POINT GUARD
Perk Very well on his Analysis
1st coherent statement I’ve EVER heard Perk make. 😑👏🏾
This is probably one of the best takes I’ve heard coming from Big Perk.
I can’t wait 🍿
Finally big perk talking some sense
Thats the the steph effect off the court😂😂
the threat level and stress level he put in the other team is beyond imagination.
Imagine a guy is dribbling from 50 ft and you are already scared.
Facts! KP
Yes he is..given 2013-2023..can any compare ?
@ 0:10 - I thought Perk was about to start his breathing problems again 🤣🤣
Not only did he innovate the game, this man is still the greatest shooter in the league rn. I'm not a prisoner of the moment either, this man BEEN doin this.