I find people who really love Sims 3 more than them all often argue this and as a bigger Sims 2 fan then Sims 3 fan (both are better than 4 tho) I disagree. Yeah, Sims 2 was built on rotational play and closed lots (and the biggest thing I would love on a Sims 2 imaginary refresh that will never happen is open micro areas of neighborhood so you could walk to a neighbors house or you could see their family across the way). But you really only need (firstly) anything you do to affect the full map and (secondly) areas of open neighborhood that feel alive with consequences impacted by your decisions. Sims 4 ALREADY has massive lag problems with a closed lot system. A massive open world on top of them would probably render the game unplayable the way it is coded now.
@@ibcekuno kidding! open neighborhoods would be a huge hit for the sims 4 rather than a phoney pack i hate going to johnny zest house just to try to go back int my house, get the front door and wait a loading screen or go to the gym and then leave to go right next door to face another loading screen just to have nothing to do besides have a moodlet, moodlets bring more personality to the sims rather than their own traits smh 🤦🏿♂️
@@bloodiichainzzYES, that's what's annoying. If something is halfway across the map, fine...loading screen me there . But If it's a building LITERALLY next door on the map why do I have to teleport? (Loading screen)...I also hate the teleporting travel in general. Sims 2 was a closed world but it worked, cars worked, because they had function in the world. Service people arrived in cars, you 'drove' off screen in a car (or bus or taxi or shuttle to your plane for vacation). I didn't need to 'see' every moment of a driving car to feel like my Sims actually drove, got a ride, or even walked somewhere because I couldn't just go to a world map and teleport them to the next location. And the loading screens also weren't the same spinning plumbob. Yeah, it was just a static image of your car or plane or taxi or whatever...but at least it was representative of real transportation in action. The spinning plumbob with game tips just reminds me I am playing a game.
@@TheDawnofVanlife smh when I first started playing the sims, I started with the sims 3 console game, it had open neighborhoods! beautiful world, a bunch of good houses, townies KNEW EACH OTHER, either ex boyfriend/ex girlfriend, it wasn't gen z at all, couples would lay in the bed and kiss each other, wasn't afraid to be bold, it had a a huge Park with schools and dine outs and a city hall area, a huge park, it had a police station, like if the sims 4 had that it would be beautiful it would also be fun to see what other sims in the area is doing when your not there lolll I used to watch other sims in the sims 3 just to see nps doing basic everyday stuff, in the sims 3 it was even a little piece of detail when sims would peek through your window !! it's creepy yes, but gives so much more to the game. the sims 4....I don't know what happened now its filled with child friendly nonsense, gen z nonsense and...loading screens 24/7, the oasis springs would be so fun with open neighborhoods..
This is one of my favourite EPs. Totally agree with the low rating for CAS. The biggest disappointment for me is that you can’t build on balconies on the apartments. The NAPs are both annoying and interesting and I love you can have different looks for the neighbourhoods.
You can put loads of things on the balcony while in livemode. Try a grill, sunbed, sleepingbag or guitar. I put my cat's litterbox and foodbowl on the balcony.
I was able to determine which DLCs to get because of your brutally honest reviews. I really like how you don’t sugar coat things. I've shown your vids to my friend whose just started to show interest into trying Sims 4 and she finds them super helpful too! Ty Satch!
As an avid rags to riches player this pack is 10/10 for me! Dumpster diving is definetly the best feature of the pack, you can find lots of objects there that you can either restore and sell or restore and furnish your house. I also think cas has some good objects, I always use hair and clothes from EL, it also has some cute jewelry that you can unlock either with cheats or by reaching a certain lvl in the career.
And Britechester came with huge dormitories for 8 students in luxury. It would have made sense to have crappy tight apartments there with leaky pipes, like the one I lived in (with 3 other students) when I was in university. The apartments in Eco change the positions of the windows when the town gets voted to change. My curtains were midwall all of a sudden, and my desk with a view was looking at a wall.
I would want to say Eco-Lifestyle is based on Haiti actually. Then Snowy Escape is based in Scandinavian countries such as Iceland 🇮🇸 not Japan in my opinion. Many Scandinavian countries in Northern Europe are very cold in it’s temperature and the climate weathering is so much icicles and snow sheets. 🥶❄️☃️
@@mariamart_0 Snowy Escape is very clearly based on Japanese Architecture & Climate. The CAS has clothing such as Kimonos & The B&B is filled with things such as tatami mats, shōji screens & much more. Japan also has some of the most annual snowfall in the world as well, so it being snowy makes complete sense. Regardless, I respect your opinion.
Another cross pack thing i enjoy, if you own the beehive from Seasons, you can collect beeswax from it for the candle making station, instead of soywax.
Hi! You reminded me of something that happens in San Myshuno. Whenever you have the computers festival (whatever is called) if it’s rainy almost everything there is broken. Every time I think about it I’m more surprised no one thought about that happening.
Satch because you’ve done a lot of these now, you should put a ranking photo toward the end of the video when you say the score sp that we can see how it compares to your other rankings of packs! Love the video man
My lust for playing Sims was totally gone untill I saw the trailer for Eco Lifestyle. I was so excited for this, and it didn't disappoint. I love all of it. Especially how it overlaps every other pack, for the footprint being a thing in almost every world. I've been enjoying the game eversince Eco gave me infinite things to do.
Yes! My favorites are 1- Island Living, 2- Eco Lifestyle, and 3- City Living. I've decided to turn off the NAP system, though because literally every neighborhood in my save would end up with Sharing Is Caring and very quickly all the items in all my community lots would be stripped bare, and all my played sims houses and apartments would find their computers have gone missing after the welcome wagon 😂 But i do love it otherwise lol
i appreciate the concept of having this as an EP. like, you dont NEED it for the game to feel complete, ie; seasons, growing together, get together, pets, hell id even say city living, but if you like the concept, you buy it and enjoy it. this is the kind of DLC i want, OPTIONAL DLC.
I know it's a bit deep but I wish that a bad environment would shorten a sims lifespan I think it would make it more enticing to change the environment to be less poluted so that the sims lifespan can be lengthened.
This is one of my most used packs! I use a lot of CAS for my granola girl Sims. Also I love the apartment buildings and the look of the neighborhoods they're in. I'm also from the country so I personally I like to make all my Sims homes be off-the-grid. And I use the vertical garden and candlemaking station for all my witchy Sims.
I've been considering to add some packs to my collection and these comprehensive standalone reviews of the packs have been SO helpful. I appreciate your brutal honesty and humour in these so so much. Keep up the great work Satch!
My fav pack too! i think it's brilliant, for gameplay, especially with the dumpster and smog vacuum, and then build your house only with recycled items
My fav pack too. I love the Marketplace. It's very underrated. I never know what I'm going to find there. Always a surprise what people will sell and from what pack.
I remember watching a video that discussed how the air just naturally cleans around the neighbourhood, even without you doing anything. It is actually very hard to make it polluted which is very frustrating.
I really like the way you have been reviewing these because it’s easy to say ‘compared to x’ it is good or bad, but comparing mediocre packs as good because some of the later packs have less content or are broken is settling for less. And I think you are really good are reviewing these as like a stand alone product ❤
I love these type of videos, I tried plaything with this pack before when it was on trail a while back, and I personally found it really rubbish. It’s really great to see a second opinion with someone who’s got the pack and has played with it.
I feel like the diseases from Get to Work would be great result of pollution. If your sim lives in polluted neighborhood they will be sick very often, and if they live in clean neighborhood, they're rarely sick. Also if sim lives in polluted/clean neighborhood for a long time, this will result in shortened/extended lifespan.
It's funny, sounds like this pack wasn't your jam but after your brutally honest review I am highly interested in it. Looks super fun. 😂😂 I litterally only have base game of Sims 4 (which I rarely play and got recently out of curiosity of what Sims 4 in 2023 was like) BUT I have an ongoing Sims 2 legacy game on my computer. And I am maybe considering a pack or two for Sims 4 in the near future.
the cas theme is meant to be trash...as in it's been worn and reused a million times. I think this pack is brilliant. Really good for rags to riches. you get the smog vacuum with the career which can clean the world. and then fix the items you find it the dumpster. Then if you have get to work you can make some really cool retail stores. I think where this pack excels is with cross pack compatibility. It makes for the best rags to riches gameplay. This is my fav pack! people are always surprised when i say it, but i think it's really cool for my gameplay style. The items work really well with cottage living simple lot trait too, especially the meat rack. Think this is only time I've disagreed with your review.
i love CAS in this pack....... i also love this pack in general, definitely one of my favs. i use NAPs all the time, its one of my fav features, but i know that people find them really annoying
I remember day one of installing this the Sims stealing everything from a bar until there was almost nothing but walls and floor left. Uninstalled until the modders caught up with fixes and work arounds.
I'm so happy with the option for active households being the only ones able to vote. I love to stir up some things, have a draught law in the desert area, taking the water away for a few hours a day makes sense. But communitylots breaking down because of missing essential items is really a huge flaw.
This was the pack that brought me back to TS4 (I closed the game on release day in disgust and had no intention of coming back). This pack gave us some of the worst bugs on release, the world is lacking (per the great Juno Birch, I wish they made the world messier/trashier), and I find it incredibly stupid that they haven’t retroactively removed some of the game breaking NAPs. And yet, it will forever be a staple in all my saves.
Unlike Realms Of Magic, I have no regrets getting Eco Lifestyle. I love the build/buy, and the community spaces. I use the fabricator and dumpster diving to kit out my apartments in rags to riches play. I make sure I vote on the 4 NAPS early on so i don't worry about it again.
I'm a Solar Punk sl*t, erm enthusiast, I genuinely enjoy this pack for the unironically 'utopian, good ending type of future' vibes it gives, with renewable energy, lots of plants and the marketplace where there's more focus on handcrafted things then on mass-produced sludge, overall it could be better, but I'm pleasantly surprised with this expansion pack, building with its items are a must
I really like the pack because when my family starts making money and I’m done with the basic upgrades to my house (like a good kitchen, bathroom etc.) I can focus on reducing my bills with the solar panels and stuff. There are just neat little features and goals to work towards that imo work really well with the dollhouse orientation of the sims 4. To me its less about changing the world everytime and more about implementing the features into my more family oriented gameplay xd
I personally really love the CAS. It’s pretty risky and out there as far as the looks go, but it’s very fashion forward, and you can tell they were referencing big fashion trends/brands when creating the styles for this pack. It’s just not very “casual,” but it is fashion.
I'm surprised you thought it only had 1 hr of gameplay! It's really easy to get neighborhoods "green" but really hard to make them "industrial", which imo should be opposite! And unlocking the modern apartments take ages too. Always interesting to hear other people's opinions on the packs. Personally this is probably my favorite expansion which is still wild to me because I always thought I would hate it haha
The only thing to be grateful is the bees wax candle has some functionality, unlike all the other objects for the Sims 4 😐🙄. The Sims 2, even for a game that is almost 20 years old, has more functionality and some very nice features. Unlike its Sims 4 counterpart. Smh. 🙄
I absolutely love this pack, I enjoy combining it with Cottage Living to have the ultimate living off the land gameplay. I agree the fabricator could have been way better. I wouldn't ever choose to use it over the regular woodworking table.
Biggest problem with CAS in general are the lack of normal pants and the feminised male clothing. When I mean normal pants I mean down to the ankles, not flood pants (pants above the ankle), to many of the pants are short especially dress/suit pants. Also much of the clothing for men are stuff I don't see the average man wearing but instead dressy men from places like California. Like women have more tomboy clothing then men have typical male clothing.
I think (not 100% sure) one reason the world improves ecologically so quickly is that all of the buildings use the new build mode items (walls, windows, etc), which all have environmental benefits. If you want the world to be more challenging in that aspect, you need to replace all the buildings with non Eco Lifestyle builds/materials. (Not my discovery. I saw this info on UA-cam somewhere when the pack came out.)
Spot on and fair. I want more cross pack compatibility. $30 * how many hundreds of thousands of players that buy a given pack? probably millions. EA had 70 MILLION sims players in 2022. The company had 70 BILLION in revenue that year. EA hasnt had a bad year so where is the investment in the game. Every pack should deliver every time.
NAPs ruined this for me, the cleptomaniacs drove me absolutely crazy!! Was not able to get them turned off for some reason but maybe that has been fixed by now
One of the challenges I’ve done is to only let my sims acquire things by making or finding them, like only using the build/buy catalog for things like walls, flooring, windows etc. that you can’t get elsewhere. It’s basically only possible with the fabrication and dumpster diving in this pack and it’s so worth it to me
My biggest problem is that while making the environment green is fun, it completely tanks my performance. Anytime I've had a Green Footprint the sunlight rays during the day has caused significant FPS loss. Combined with a big neighborhood with a lot going on (in my example, the farm area of Henford-on-Bagley) I was getting a nice 2 to 3 FPS during the day. I tried a few things and even putting my graphics to minimum I was still barely pushing 20 fps. Unfortunately there is no way of disabling those sunlight rays :/
I love this pack so much for dumpster diving, neighborhood, fabrication and build mode. Most everything else is kind of hit or miss. Definitely a get it on sale kind of pack.
I regret having purchased this pack, I really disliked the features, I turned them all off (SPECIALLY the horrid NAPs) and I hate the modern aesthetic of the looks, I’m more of a Cats and Dogs Build/Buy stuff, so yes, I think this one is a strong hit or miss, that I personally hate it
This is one of my favorite packs but the CAS items were 90% horrible. I love the build mode and the world. I enjoy the system of "upgrading" the neighborhoods through gameplay. I wish they had made that feature part of other worlds in some capacity.
I won't lie, the NAPs system would be kind of cool for a (modded) post-apocalyptic run :D but other than that, I agree, I don't think I'd pay full price for this. I've been on the fence for a while about eco lifestyle, mainly because of the build mode items - they're absolutely stunning, but from the points you presented, I'll definitely wait for the next sale to roll around so I can finally buy it :)
I think it would be a nice cross-pack thing with Dream home decorator - like "footprint" being one of conditions for decorating - sims with eco traits would like their decorations to be with minimal footprint, some other sims wouldn't care and so on!
Honestly for me neighborhood level of pollution didn't change that easy 😮 I honestly like this pack, it could have kore, but I'm definitely satisfied with what it offers.
I hate hate hate nothing more than the Eco Lifestyle Gameplay, I find it very annoying and have it disabled all the time. But the build/buy is absolutely amazing and one of the best for sure! CAS is oookay.
Really surprised that NO ONE seems to talk about the horrible lots: a few are so bugged you can see through the map, there's one in the quarry neighborhood that is impossible to flatten elevation on because its placed as a flat lot but on uneven terrain, and very few of the lots are well-lit from the front at any time of day. As a builder, I absolutely never build in this world because it's a terrible experience. Also, the style of The neighborhoods prevent you from building anything other than super modern or industrial builds, (and it's really hard to even make those seem like they fit into the world properly). Build items are some of the best in the game, but for a $40 expansion pack to have a world that is this broken is so frustrating.
If the cas items had two different versions, one for the cleaner sinple denim and then the mish-mash patch denim, then it would be a big improvement. Just a shame that some that the idea of the patch-worn out denim idea just was in the wrong places
Eco Lifestyle would be fun if you could run around picking up the trash that you see like in Island Living. that was a missed opportunity. It would be nice to have activities to clean up the neighborhood. I find that voting is glitched, so very annoying. I do love playing with this pack, though.
I had really hoped for the town to gain parks and all kinds of new activities and fishing opportunities when cleaned up, but instead you get minor aesthetic changes. Especially at the port/harbor. The fact that you can’t fish in that area really bothers me. You could have it so the fish are all poor quality until you clean the town. Also missed opportunity to have a ferry to a remote part of the eco world map. The ferry could go from coal burning to greener energy or a bridge with a high speed rail is built. And those projects could be literal career level jobs.. then to reach full potential for the area, you have to play all the parts of the pack.
What I forgot is that this expansion came out in the height of the pandemic in 2020 and I was just really confused. Especially the original trailer started with a bunch of sims coughing. :|
I feel like this world should be 0/10. I tried this pack when it was available as a free demo and the world was just the most boring of every world I’ve ever played in. There was literally nothing to do - most worlds at least have off-lot parks or something, and some collectibles - and despite looking like a city there were no other Sims out and about, no community events, just… nothing. And then to add insult to injury the work from home tasks for the career only worked if you literally lived in that new world; they wouldn’t work in any other world but also had a requirement to do them within your own neighborhood. And of course the freelancer career was completely broken no matter where you lived…
I thought you'll give the gameplay more points, because i saw your video that this is one of the packs that you recommend. Or was it sarcasm? Oh well i can't read sarcasm very well, but i thought that short was literal honesty. Waiting for city living review. But i think the sale will end before i can watch your city living review, so it's ok.
Out of all the packs i have i use this the least..or the spa one or star wars. I only use this pack at the beginning of rags to riches and i dumpster dive til my witch (which i usually always play bc its op) levels her magic up and basically makes me rich lol. The neighborhood action plans are so stupid and pointless. Its one of my least favorite packs but i do like it better than star wars 😂
Well as far as I'm concerned, the only thing I like about this expansion is the clothes and the hairstyles and being able to build a little is not bad but I prefer the Escape in the Snow one more since it's fine but it's not my favorite I remember the The first time it came out I criticized it but it's not that bad, good but good video I'm a new sub on the channel. 😊😊😊
I bought the pack because of build mode items amd I always use them, I also enjoy generating my own power and water because it reduces the bills... One thing I REALLY hate though is how LAGGY a green lot becomes because of the auroras, it's so annoying I had to turn off the feature in the settings. Which is the main point of the pack's gameplay...
I accidentally cleaned up Sulani without realizing it was part of a larger goal 🤣 Just had my sims clean up garbage while they were out swimming and stuff (I was trying to get them unalived by a sea monster. It did not work out for me :( )
I like the concept of the pack, but it feels like there isn't really a way to nicely implement it. Usually when packs feels flats I have some realistic ideas on how they could have improved it, but with this one I have nothing.
But Satch, bug-based meat product is the food of the future! Haven't you had a mealworm burgers before? How about spicy cricket chips?? They're taste so gooooooooooooood* * tbh not really, they are quite bland on their own, like plain protein powder. But they *breed hella fast* and makes a good sustainable protein replacement. Though they have a higher chance(if I'm not mistaken) to cause allergy, if your body can't handle it.
I had a thought! They should've done robots similar to Sims 3 Ambitions, which the robots are made from recycled metals and have two types of ways they run like one runs on rubbish but they need to be emptied like bladders and best place is the garden or dump, otherwise it would be very embarrassing. Other can be run on hydro similar to mermaids, but time to time, if durability is low, they could leak which can be very embarrassing and fatal.
I know it's unfortunate that guys don't get a lot of hairstyles, but it's also realistic in my opinion. From what I know, girls do a lot more with their hair than guys do. Plus, you can just take off the filter for masculine and let the guys have some of the feminine hair for more hairstyles, right?
i disagree with a lot of your opinions just based on the fact that you like gameplay and i like building but i absolutely love these reviews whether i agree with them or not because you not only rate on consistent metrics, you also tell folks the good and the bad, and what packs to get instead if there's a better option out there.
its so funny how so many packs fail because of the closed world system 💀💀
Yeah and it's arguably easy to improve at least a little - make open neighborhoods and more out of lot activities and bam!
I find people who really love Sims 3 more than them all often argue this and as a bigger Sims 2 fan then Sims 3 fan (both are better than 4 tho) I disagree. Yeah, Sims 2 was built on rotational play and closed lots (and the biggest thing I would love on a Sims 2 imaginary refresh that will never happen is open micro areas of neighborhood so you could walk to a neighbors house or you could see their family across the way). But you really only need (firstly) anything you do to affect the full map and (secondly) areas of open neighborhood that feel alive with consequences impacted by your decisions. Sims 4 ALREADY has massive lag problems with a closed lot system. A massive open world on top of them would probably render the game unplayable the way it is coded now.
@@ibcekuno kidding!
open neighborhoods would be a huge hit for the sims 4 rather than a phoney pack
i hate going to johnny zest house just to try to go back int my house, get the front door and wait a loading screen
or go to the gym and then leave to go right next door to face another loading screen just to have nothing to do besides have a moodlet, moodlets bring more personality to the sims rather than their own traits smh 🤦🏿♂️
@@bloodiichainzzYES, that's what's annoying. If something is halfway across the map, fine...loading screen me there . But If it's a building LITERALLY next door on the map why do I have to teleport? (Loading screen)...I also hate the teleporting travel in general. Sims 2 was a closed world but it worked, cars worked, because they had function in the world. Service people arrived in cars, you 'drove' off screen in a car (or bus or taxi or shuttle to your plane for vacation). I didn't need to 'see' every moment of a driving car to feel like my Sims actually drove, got a ride, or even walked somewhere because I couldn't just go to a world map and teleport them to the next location. And the loading screens also weren't the same spinning plumbob. Yeah, it was just a static image of your car or plane or taxi or whatever...but at least it was representative of real transportation in action. The spinning plumbob with game tips just reminds me I am playing a game.
@@TheDawnofVanlife smh when I first started playing the sims, I started with the sims 3 console game, it had open neighborhoods! beautiful world, a bunch of good houses, townies KNEW EACH OTHER, either ex boyfriend/ex girlfriend, it wasn't gen z at all, couples would lay in the bed and kiss each other, wasn't afraid to be bold, it had a a huge Park with schools and dine outs and a city hall area, a huge park, it had a police station, like if the sims 4 had that it would be beautiful
it would also be fun to see what other sims in the area is doing when your not there lolll I used to watch other sims in the sims 3 just to see nps doing basic everyday stuff, in the sims 3 it was even a little piece of detail when sims would peek through your window !! it's creepy yes, but gives so much more to the game. the sims 4....I don't know what happened now its filled with child friendly nonsense, gen z nonsense and...loading screens 24/7, the oasis springs would be so fun with open neighborhoods..
This is one of my favourite EPs. Totally agree with the low rating for CAS. The biggest disappointment for me is that you can’t build on balconies on the apartments.
The NAPs are both annoying and interesting and I love you can have different looks for the neighbourhoods.
If you can use mods, I highly recommend T.O.O.L for the balconies, I always use it! ^^
You can put loads of things on the balcony while in livemode. Try a grill, sunbed, sleepingbag or guitar.
I put my cat's litterbox and foodbowl on the balcony.
Its funny about the balcony because when the pack first came out you actually could build on the balcony and then they removed it
@@SimplyBuildsYT Yeap. It’s on brand for them.
its actually so sad . i remember being totally confused abt it@@anahenriques.
I was able to determine which DLCs to get because of your brutally honest reviews. I really like how you don’t sugar coat things. I've shown your vids to my friend whose just started to show interest into trying Sims 4 and she finds them super helpful too! Ty Satch!
The answer is all, dlcunlocker, scam ea back
@@Normiel it is always morally correct to pirate sims 4 🩷🎀✨️
As an avid rags to riches player this pack is 10/10 for me!
Dumpster diving is definetly the best feature of the pack, you can find lots of objects there that you can either restore and sell or restore and furnish your house.
I also think cas has some good objects, I always use hair and clothes from EL, it also has some cute jewelry that you can unlock either with cheats or by reaching a certain lvl in the career.
Tbh i was surprised when Snowy Scaoe didn't came with flat options bc is based in Japan and in Japan flats are very common but oh well
And Britechester came with huge dormitories for 8 students in luxury. It would have made sense to have crappy tight apartments there with leaky pipes, like the one I lived in (with 3 other students) when I was in university.
The apartments in Eco change the positions of the windows when the town gets voted to change. My curtains were midwall all of a sudden, and my desk with a view was looking at a wall.
I would want to say Eco-Lifestyle is based on Haiti actually. Then Snowy Escape is based in Scandinavian countries such as Iceland 🇮🇸 not Japan in my opinion.
Many Scandinavian countries in Northern Europe are very cold in it’s temperature and the climate weathering is so much icicles and snow sheets. 🥶❄️☃️
@MariamArt_ i respect your opinion but it's DEFINITLY based in Japan and japanese minimalism, it's not an opinion matter tbh
@@mariamart_0 Snowy Escape is very clearly based on Japanese Architecture & Climate. The CAS has clothing such as Kimonos & The B&B is filled with things such as tatami mats, shōji screens & much more. Japan also has some of the most annual snowfall in the world as well, so it being snowy makes complete sense. Regardless, I respect your opinion.
Another cross pack thing i enjoy, if you own the beehive from Seasons, you can collect beeswax from it for the candle making station, instead of soywax.
Yeah!! You can have a lil flower farm or something with beehives and a farm stand for honey and beeswax candles it’s so sweet
Hi! You reminded me of something that happens in San Myshuno. Whenever you have the computers festival (whatever is called) if it’s rainy almost everything there is broken. Every time I think about it I’m more surprised no one thought about that happening.
It might be 'GeekCon'. So understandable, but true 😄😄
That's kind of hilarious honestly
I Have This issue constantly with parties on island bluffs and in ancient ruins. Windenburg is always so rainy and no one thought about that 🙃🙃🙃
The weirdest thing is you cant make a world polluted, no matter how hard I try it always reverts back to clean
Have you seen Plumbella's attempt at ruining the world? It was like watching someone spiral into insanity 😭
@@Elowen_Faeapparently I need to watch this LP
@@roelinkabek9286 highly recommend it. It's so funny yet equally frustrating to watch
Satch because you’ve done a lot of these now, you should put a ranking photo toward the end of the video when you say the score sp that we can see how it compares to your other rankings of packs! Love the video man
My lust for playing Sims was totally gone untill I saw the trailer for Eco Lifestyle. I was so excited for this, and it didn't disappoint. I love all of it. Especially how it overlaps every other pack, for the footprint being a thing in almost every world.
I've been enjoying the game eversince Eco gave me infinite things to do.
Yes! My favorites are 1- Island Living, 2- Eco Lifestyle, and 3- City Living. I've decided to turn off the NAP system, though because literally every neighborhood in my save would end up with Sharing Is Caring and very quickly all the items in all my community lots would be stripped bare, and all my played sims houses and apartments would find their computers have gone missing after the welcome wagon 😂
But i do love it otherwise lol
i appreciate the concept of having this as an EP. like, you dont NEED it for the game to feel complete, ie; seasons, growing together, get together, pets, hell id even say city living, but if you like the concept, you buy it and enjoy it. this is the kind of DLC i want, OPTIONAL DLC.
I agree! Its definitely a pack that isn’t just stuff that should be in base game
I know it's a bit deep but I wish that a bad environment would shorten a sims lifespan I think it would make it more enticing to change the environment to be less poluted so that the sims lifespan can be lengthened.
Yes! Also perhaps infertility or fertility issues as a consequence of pollution. It's dark but realistic.
This is one of my most used packs! I use a lot of CAS for my granola girl Sims. Also I love the apartment buildings and the look of the neighborhoods they're in. I'm also from the country so I personally I like to make all my Sims homes be off-the-grid.
And I use the vertical garden and candlemaking station for all my witchy Sims.
I've been considering to add some packs to my collection and these comprehensive standalone reviews of the packs have been SO helpful. I appreciate your brutal honesty and humour in these so so much. Keep up the great work Satch!
Still my fav pack so I might argue with some of your rankings but definitely overall agree with your comments. Thanks for the review!
My fav pack too! i think it's brilliant, for gameplay, especially with the dumpster and smog vacuum, and then build your house only with recycled items
My fav pack too. I love the Marketplace. It's very underrated. I never know what I'm going to find there. Always a surprise what people will sell and from what pack.
@@HippoHannahMINE TOO AND EVERYONE HATES ON IT!
eco lifestyle fans rise up!
literally my favorite.
earliest i have ever been to a video! I just subscribed the other day you make great videos!
I remember watching a video that discussed how the air just naturally cleans around the neighbourhood, even without you doing anything. It is actually very hard to make it polluted which is very frustrating.
I really like the way you have been reviewing these because it’s easy to say ‘compared to x’ it is good or bad, but comparing mediocre packs as good because some of the later packs have less content or are broken is settling for less. And I think you are really good are reviewing these as like a stand alone product ❤
i have been waiting for your review on this, you're the only review i really use when thinking about getting a pack. thank you
so excited for this review!!
There are a few special gameplay items to make with the fabricator, but you need to be in the civil engineering career (for example the smog vacuum)
I never knew this, does it unlock as u get higher in the career?
@@savannahonetsy yes, I think you need to design them on the engineer tablet thing first and then you can make it
Thanks, I always play with this pack as it’s my fave but have never messed around fully with the career
I only realised this like a week ago but you can actually have a bike made and ride it around. It boosted my sims fitness from 0 to 5 in one go
I love these type of videos, I tried plaything with this pack before when it was on trail a while back, and I personally found it really rubbish. It’s really great to see a second opinion with someone who’s got the pack and has played with it.
I feel like the diseases from Get to Work would be great result of pollution. If your sim lives in polluted neighborhood they will be sick very often, and if they live in clean neighborhood, they're rarely sick. Also if sim lives in polluted/clean neighborhood for a long time, this will result in shortened/extended lifespan.
Feels illegal to be this early
Same here 😅
It's funny, sounds like this pack wasn't your jam but after your brutally honest review I am highly interested in it. Looks super fun. 😂😂
I litterally only have base game of Sims 4 (which I rarely play and got recently out of curiosity of what Sims 4 in 2023 was like) BUT I have an ongoing Sims 2 legacy game on my computer. And I am maybe considering a pack or two for Sims 4 in the near future.
the cas theme is meant to be trash...as in it's been worn and reused a million times. I think this pack is brilliant. Really good for rags to riches. you get the smog vacuum with the career which can clean the world. and then fix the items you find it the dumpster. Then if you have get to work you can make some really cool retail stores. I think where this pack excels is with cross pack compatibility. It makes for the best rags to riches gameplay. This is my fav pack! people are always surprised when i say it, but i think it's really cool for my gameplay style. The items work really well with cottage living simple lot trait too, especially the meat rack. Think this is only time I've disagreed with your review.
i love CAS in this pack....... i also love this pack in general, definitely one of my favs. i use NAPs all the time, its one of my fav features, but i know that people find them really annoying
I expected you to do this right after it drove you insane in the lets play😂
I remember day one of installing this the Sims stealing everything from a bar until there was almost nothing but walls and floor left. Uninstalled until the modders caught up with fixes and work arounds.
I'm so happy with the option for active households being the only ones able to vote.
I love to stir up some things, have a draught law in the desert area, taking the water away for a few hours a day makes sense. But communitylots breaking down because of missing essential items is really a huge flaw.
This was the pack that brought me back to TS4 (I closed the game on release day in disgust and had no intention of coming back). This pack gave us some of the worst bugs on release, the world is lacking (per the great Juno Birch, I wish they made the world messier/trashier), and I find it incredibly stupid that they haven’t retroactively removed some of the game breaking NAPs. And yet, it will forever be a staple in all my saves.
Unlike Realms Of Magic, I have no regrets getting Eco Lifestyle. I love the build/buy, and the community spaces. I use the fabricator and dumpster diving to kit out my apartments in rags to riches play. I make sure I vote on the 4 NAPS early on so i don't worry about it again.
3:18 "Be careful what you wish for 'cause you just might get it" - DOLLS, The Pussycat
I'm a Solar Punk sl*t, erm enthusiast, I genuinely enjoy this pack for the unironically 'utopian, good ending type of future' vibes it gives, with renewable energy, lots of plants and the marketplace where there's more focus on handcrafted things then on mass-produced sludge, overall it could be better, but I'm pleasantly surprised with this expansion pack, building with its items are a must
I really like the pack because when my family starts making money and I’m done with the basic upgrades to my house (like a good kitchen, bathroom etc.) I can focus on reducing my bills with the solar panels and stuff. There are just neat little features and goals to work towards that imo work really well with the dollhouse orientation of the sims 4. To me its less about changing the world everytime and more about implementing the features into my more family oriented gameplay xd
I personally really love the CAS. It’s pretty risky and out there as far as the looks go, but it’s very fashion forward, and you can tell they were referencing big fashion trends/brands when creating the styles for this pack. It’s just not very “casual,” but it is fashion.
I'm surprised you thought it only had 1 hr of gameplay! It's really easy to get neighborhoods "green" but really hard to make them "industrial", which imo should be opposite! And unlocking the modern apartments take ages too. Always interesting to hear other people's opinions on the packs. Personally this is probably my favorite expansion which is still wild to me because I always thought I would hate it haha
Really good idea about the gameplay objectives. That would have made more sense. I’ve never played this world!
I absolutely love most hairs that came with this pack
Not you posting this review right when I bought it lol!!! It was on sale though of course! I’m very excited to make families and explore the world! (:
Also you can use bees wax aswell as soy wax for the candle maker machine
The only thing to be grateful is the bees wax candle has some functionality, unlike all the other objects for the Sims 4 😐🙄. The Sims 2, even for a game that is almost 20 years old, has more functionality and some very nice features. Unlike its Sims 4 counterpart. Smh. 🙄
I absolutely love this pack, I enjoy combining it with Cottage Living to have the ultimate living off the land gameplay. I agree the fabricator could have been way better. I wouldn't ever choose to use it over the regular woodworking table.
Yes!! Those packs together are so fun
Biggest problem with CAS in general are the lack of normal pants and the feminised male clothing. When I mean normal pants I mean down to the ankles, not flood pants (pants above the ankle), to many of the pants are short especially dress/suit pants. Also much of the clothing for men are stuff I don't see the average man wearing but instead dressy men from places like California. Like women have more tomboy clothing then men have typical male clothing.
Yea i hate most of the mens options of clothes so much😭
I think (not 100% sure) one reason the world improves ecologically so quickly is that all of the buildings use the new build mode items (walls, windows, etc), which all have environmental benefits. If you want the world to be more challenging in that aspect, you need to replace all the buildings with non Eco Lifestyle builds/materials.
(Not my discovery. I saw this info on UA-cam somewhere when the pack came out.)
Spot on and fair. I want more cross pack compatibility. $30 * how many hundreds of thousands of players that buy a given pack? probably millions. EA had 70 MILLION sims players in 2022. The company had 70 BILLION in revenue that year. EA hasnt had a bad year so where is the investment in the game. Every pack should deliver every time.
I'd love to have this with my cottage living! Having a community building with a public garden in my town would really help pull it together
NAPs ruined this for me, the cleptomaniacs drove me absolutely crazy!! Was not able to get them turned off for some reason but maybe that has been fixed by now
Whenever Satch's videos show up on my recommended, I immediately click it. I love these videos.
One of my favourite packs, of course it could be better, all the packs could be, but I really like this one.
The spider plush in the background almost gave me a heart attack omg 😭 but honestly love your reviews
One of the challenges I’ve done is to only let my sims acquire things by making or finding them, like only using the build/buy catalog for things like walls, flooring, windows etc. that you can’t get elsewhere. It’s basically only possible with the fabrication and dumpster diving in this pack and it’s so worth it to me
My biggest problem is that while making the environment green is fun, it completely tanks my performance. Anytime I've had a Green Footprint the sunlight rays during the day has caused significant FPS loss. Combined with a big neighborhood with a lot going on (in my example, the farm area of Henford-on-Bagley) I was getting a nice 2 to 3 FPS during the day. I tried a few things and even putting my graphics to minimum I was still barely pushing 20 fps. Unfortunately there is no way of disabling those sunlight rays :/
Been waiting for this❤
I love this pack so much for dumpster diving, neighborhood, fabrication and build mode. Most everything else is kind of hit or miss. Definitely a get it on sale kind of pack.
I regret having purchased this pack, I really disliked the features, I turned them all off (SPECIALLY the horrid NAPs) and I hate the modern aesthetic of the looks, I’m more of a Cats and Dogs Build/Buy stuff, so yes, I think this one is a strong hit or miss, that I personally hate it
This pack is a must have for me but I see where you’re coming from.
This is one of my favorite packs but the CAS items were 90% horrible. I love the build mode and the world. I enjoy the system of "upgrading" the neighborhoods through gameplay. I wish they had made that feature part of other worlds in some capacity.
This video just made me buy the pack after lol
The CAS of this pack is actually one of my favourites🤧
I won't lie, the NAPs system would be kind of cool for a (modded) post-apocalyptic run :D but other than that, I agree, I don't think I'd pay full price for this. I've been on the fence for a while about eco lifestyle, mainly because of the build mode items - they're absolutely stunning, but from the points you presented, I'll definitely wait for the next sale to roll around so I can finally buy it :)
I love this guy.. don't get it why the views are dropping
I think it would be a nice cross-pack thing with Dream home decorator - like "footprint" being one of conditions for decorating - sims with eco traits would like their decorations to be with minimal footprint, some other sims wouldn't care and so on!
That would be so cool! Dream home decorater career is one of my favorites
Man-Shanice (Manice) will never not be traumatising 😂😂
Honestly for me neighborhood level of pollution didn't change that easy 😮 I honestly like this pack, it could have kore, but I'm definitely satisfied with what it offers.
The vertical garden boxes are great, except they don’t update the gardening aspirations for evolving plants.
I hate hate hate nothing more than the Eco Lifestyle Gameplay, I find it very annoying and have it disabled all the time. But the build/buy is absolutely amazing and one of the best for sure! CAS is oookay.
Loved the video! "X thing is bad implemented" tbh the WHOLE sims 4 is bad implemented 😂😂
I don’t want it anymore 😂 thank you, I’m gonna go watch other overviews
Lol the fact I love the CAS in this pack and you hate has me chuckling 🤭
Really surprised that NO ONE seems to talk about the horrible lots: a few are so bugged you can see through the map, there's one in the quarry neighborhood that is impossible to flatten elevation on because its placed as a flat lot but on uneven terrain, and very few of the lots are well-lit from the front at any time of day. As a builder, I absolutely never build in this world because it's a terrible experience. Also, the style of The neighborhoods prevent you from building anything other than super modern or industrial builds, (and it's really hard to even make those seem like they fit into the world properly). Build items are some of the best in the game, but for a $40 expansion pack to have a world that is this broken is so frustrating.
Yes the best buy mode in an exp since seasons imo
im tempted to buy it just for the build mode items ugh
The Eco lifestyle CAS remind me of Derelictè🤣(name that movie)
If the cas items had two different versions, one for the cleaner sinple denim and then the mish-mash patch denim, then it would be a big improvement. Just a shame that some that the idea of the patch-worn out denim idea just was in the wrong places
Eco Lifestyle would be fun if you could run around picking up the trash that you see like in Island Living. that was a missed opportunity. It would be nice to have activities to clean up the neighborhood. I find that voting is glitched, so very annoying. I do love playing with this pack, though.
I want almost nothing to do with this $40 EP but ooof that build mode 😵💫😍 gonna go cc shopping to cope
I had really hoped for the town to gain parks and all kinds of new activities and fishing opportunities when cleaned up, but instead you get minor aesthetic changes. Especially at the port/harbor. The fact that you can’t fish in that area really bothers me. You could have it so the fish are all poor quality until you clean the town. Also missed opportunity to have a ferry to a remote part of the eco world map. The ferry could go from coal burning to greener energy or a bridge with a high speed rail is built. And those projects could be literal career level jobs.. then to reach full potential for the area, you have to play all the parts of the pack.
But i have to say i love this pack, it's one of my favourit ones because of the eco stuff.
You need to be the person play-testing these because your criticism is very constructive
What I forgot is that this expansion came out in the height of the pandemic in 2020 and I was just really confused. Especially the original trailer started with a bunch of sims coughing. :|
will you be trying my wedding stories again to see if it's any less buggy since the update? ❤
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Why did i hear "This is my Bruce Lee honest review" 😭😭
I feel like this world should be 0/10. I tried this pack when it was available as a free demo and the world was just the most boring of every world I’ve ever played in. There was literally nothing to do - most worlds at least have off-lot parks or something, and some collectibles - and despite looking like a city there were no other Sims out and about, no community events, just… nothing. And then to add insult to injury the work from home tasks for the career only worked if you literally lived in that new world; they wouldn’t work in any other world but also had a requirement to do them within your own neighborhood. And of course the freelancer career was completely broken no matter where you lived…
Would you do a video on which packs have the best build stuff?
Saw this pack in sale for €2 at my local game store so i had to come back to Watch this video
I thought you'll give the gameplay more points, because i saw your video that this is one of the packs that you recommend. Or was it sarcasm? Oh well i can't read sarcasm very well, but i thought that short was literal honesty.
Waiting for city living review. But i think the sale will end before i can watch your city living review, so it's ok.
Out of all the packs i have i use this the least..or the spa one or star wars. I only use this pack at the beginning of rags to riches and i dumpster dive til my witch (which i usually always play bc its op) levels her magic up and basically makes me rich lol. The neighborhood action plans are so stupid and pointless. Its one of my least favorite packs but i do like it better than star wars 😂
Well as far as I'm concerned, the only thing I like about this expansion is the clothes and the hairstyles and being able to build a little is not bad but I prefer the Escape in the Snow one more since it's fine but it's not my favorite I remember the The first time it came out I criticized it but it's not that bad, good but good video I'm a new sub on the channel. 😊😊😊
I bought the pack because of build mode items amd I always use them, I also enjoy generating my own power and water because it reduces the bills... One thing I REALLY hate though is how LAGGY a green lot becomes because of the auroras, it's so annoying I had to turn off the feature in the settings. Which is the main point of the pack's gameplay...
This is my fav Sims 4 pack cuz I actually can do something in it
I accidentally cleaned up Sulani without realizing it was part of a larger goal 🤣 Just had my sims clean up garbage while they were out swimming and stuff (I was trying to get them unalived by a sea monster. It did not work out for me :( )
I like the concept of the pack, but it feels like there isn't really a way to nicely implement it. Usually when packs feels flats I have some realistic ideas on how they could have improved it, but with this one I have nothing.
But Satch, bug-based meat product is the food of the future! Haven't you had a mealworm burgers before? How about spicy cricket chips?? They're taste so gooooooooooooood*
* tbh not really, they are quite bland on their own, like plain protein powder. But they *breed hella fast* and makes a good sustainable protein replacement. Though they have a higher chance(if I'm not mistaken) to cause allergy, if your body can't handle it.
I had brindleton bay industrial and i didnt notice until i saw the map and had acid rain. There was no smog
The Sims 3 Into the Future is still probably my top fave sims game. Do
This neighborhood and cas is perfect for a zombie apocalypse gameplay.
I know they did 2 deaths in this pack, but it would’ve been cool to have a death from pollution.
I had a thought! They should've done robots similar to Sims 3 Ambitions, which the robots are made from recycled metals and have two types of ways they run like one runs on rubbish but they need to be emptied like bladders and best place is the garden or dump, otherwise it would be very embarrassing. Other can be run on hydro similar to mermaids, but time to time, if durability is low, they could leak which can be very embarrassing and fatal.
I know it's unfortunate that guys don't get a lot of hairstyles, but it's also realistic in my opinion. From what I know, girls do a lot more with their hair than guys do. Plus, you can just take off the filter for masculine and let the guys have some of the feminine hair for more hairstyles, right?
i disagree with a lot of your opinions just based on the fact that you like gameplay and i like building but i absolutely love these reviews whether i agree with them or not because you not only rate on consistent metrics, you also tell folks the good and the bad, and what packs to get instead if there's a better option out there.