I received my star Adventurer 2i pro in the mail today. I am setting it up tomorrow afternoon. Thank you for the video on the setup. this was really helpful.
Lovely video thaks. I've just bought one. I didn't realise you have to lock the clutch rather by turning clockwise. I was expecting some sort of free movement. My one also had a couple of loose bolts in one of the plates which caused it to wobble a bit so its worth people just making sure everything is tight before first use. Also worth noting that the counterweight isnt big enough to balance a 11lb load. I have a cannon 6Dii with a double battery grip and a 100-400mm lens and there is no way I could get the thing to balance. It just means buying another counterweight but its worth considering this before purchasing if you are planning on going somewhere and using it straight away. Also I have a camera tripod but with this weight on it I decided to buy the tripod. I was gobsmaked at how stable this is for the money, absolute bargain.
Hi Donald, thanks! I've used the 2i Pro for 6 months now and I really like the simplicity. I'm using the tracker for widefield time-lapses with my 50 to 250mm camera
I was pricing digital scopes when I realized I had a perfectly good DSLR at home, barring Amazon screwing up I should be able to test Saturday and Sunday and get a video of the eclipse next week. Being able to film it should be fun.
Good review. I just started looking at motorized eq mounts again. (I have an old Meade telescope I bought used, but it's missing a few components of the drive, and picked up a motorized eq tripod and mount at a thrift shop, but the motor is dead). Figure it's time to just buy new, but am trying to keep it in the 3 digit price range. This one caught my eye, so now I'm researching it.
To be honest I never got to use my astro gear away from home ... That is with any success 😂... Simply too much gear and troublesome... I wish those trackers had included a good sturdy mount and ballhead in the package and since the new version is out I had hoped they would bring the price of the 2i down so that it could be more affordable :) I have seen a bunch of people use them with great success and I wish you all the best with it! Thanks for the video and opening my appetite for a more mobile solution!
Hi there. Yes it's always a hassle 😉. I'm in Italy right now and I was able to check in my 2i pro, DSLR and tripod on the plane. I only have my kitlens with me but I was able to take 2 minute exposures with round stars at 18mm without guiding. Hope you'll find a nice mobile solution 🙂!
Both versions will stay side by side, the GTI is not a replacement for the the 2i, completely different purposes. So if Skywatcher keeps producing both types of trackers, as they said they will, than there won't be a price drop I suppose
It's pretty cool. I own a Celestron 8se. I am really starting to link along the lines of astrophotography and I have a Canon Rebel T3. This stuff is all new to me. Thank you so much for the video.
Very good explained Wido, I have also one here, have it for about a few months now but still not used it, new in the box. Few weeks ago I saw the release of the new Skytracker GTI, different tracker and different purpose but looks a nice little go-to mount. I contacted Skywatcher and they are planning to keep producing both trackers side by side, they said they are built for completely different purposes. I guess I will use mine mostly on holiday, but have to try it out first, so looking forward to your upcoming videos
Hi Siegfried, thanks! My main purpose is to be able to take it with me on my holidays and do some astroscaping/ widefield imaging. I'm in Italy right now and first tests are great. I was able to track the stars with my camera and kitlens up to two minutes. Unfortunately we have clouds right now and I need to upgrade to a better camera/lens, but the 2i Pro did its job! Clear skies.
I've had mine for a while now just recently been playing around with the Astro time lapse mode! Got two minutes exposures with a Canon 6d with a 12mm lens
Cool, I need to check that tracking mode. Did you get a nice foreground? I usually take a separate foreground picture but it's always a bit of a struggle to integrate it with the stars. Clear skies!
@@AstroForumSpace this is for time lapsing!Depending on focal length and how close your foreground it tracks the stars and keeps foreground sharpish for a time lapse video
🔭 Wido, It Would Have Been Useful For You To Show The UNLOCKING Of The Latitude Adjustment KNOB With The LEVER FIRST. This Loosens Up The Latitude Adjustment Knob In Order To Be Able To Turn It. You Only Show Locking The Lever Down Once You've Set Your Respective Latitude. Otherwise, Great Video. Thanks 🔭
Thank you so much for the wonderful introduction. I watched it a couple times, and I very much appreciate your effort on making this video. May I ask, does the motor turn on when the dialpad is turned to astrophotography mode with celestial/solar/lunar tracking? Is there any other step needed if I choose not using the APP mode with WiFi? Thanks!
Ah, I remember that. Once you've used the APP mode it doesn't respond to the dial anymore. There was a trick, I think it was resetting everything to factory settings - and after that don't connect the adventurer to the APP. Hope this helps.
great video - thanks. Just to be clear - you tracked the sun and the moon without polar alignment? I've had this exact tracker for just about a year, but unable to use thus far - it just so happens that my balcony is perfectly placed for observing Orion all night long, BUT the building obstructs my view of Polaris - so I can't align from my balcony. (I take care of my dad full time, so it's not often I get the opportunity to get out through the night)
No. There's a visual polar scope. You can check other apps for the position of polaris and align the 2i Pro accordingly. A rough polar aluminium is often sufficient when using a dslr with short focal length
Having a Sky-Watcher EQ5 with tracking and a Celestron CGEM mount, I am in the market now for something smaller that I can take with me to Australia or New Zealand to photograph the Southern night's sky, as I'm contemplating (not sure yet though). Besides from that endeavour, a small equatorial tracking mount would be perfect for shorter trips closer to home as well. I cannot take the EQ5 with tripod with me to long trips (the CGEM is out of the question anyway, considering its weight), but this Star Adventurer seems just fine. Can I use a photography tripod for this, or do I need an astronomy-style mount?
The Sky-Watcher Star Adventurer Tripod is out for stock for months so I am trying to find a tripod that will work with my Sky-Watcher, what is the tripod you use in the video ?
Depends on your goals. If you want to use your DSLR camera with an uncomplicated tracker, go for the 2ipro. If you want to get into precisely tracking and guiding the night sky with a small camera/telescope setup, the GTI makes more sense.
Sir pls reply i want to buy tripod for star adventurer 2i which type of tripod is great i live in india but i want to buy cheap and sturdy tripod for my star tracker can you suggest best tripods for my tracker
Hi Dominic, the SW tripod for the star adventurer if probably fine. I ended up with an iOptron tripod because that's what the astroshop in Europe had in stock. Good luck!
Hi Wido, thanks so much for this video! Do you know if it is necessary to get a ball head in order to adjust the vertical tilt of the DSLR once it’s connected to the mount, and would using a ball head mess with the balance in any way? I recently bought the 2i pro pack and attached my DSLR to the fine-tuning plate but noticed that 1.) it would take an awkward combination of rotating the entire camera along the R.A. axis and swiveling it left/right on the plate to get the framing I would want for almost any given shot and 2.) swiveling the camera from side to side would throw off the balance in the declination axis. Would getting a ball head negate these problems?
I immediately ordered a ballhead with the 2i Pro, exactly for the reasons you've mentioned. You need to be careful not to move the tripod after alignment, but a ballhead is a great solution to point your camera to the area you're interested in. It works for me. Happy holidays!
Hi, I have a question. Do I have to polar aline the tracker to the north star every time I got out to look a different object each night? I'm new to this.
My understanding is you align it every time you move the tripod. I also think for a lot of money you can buy ones that will search the sky, recognize constellations, and then align themselves.
I'm new to the Star Adventurer 2i. I live in Alaska and I want to take 24 hour time-lapse of the sun, TRACKING IT through 24 hours and keeping it centered in the frame. I can find nothing in the instruction manual about tracking the sun. Does the "Sun" setting on the unit automatically track the sun? I ASSUME (because it doesn't say anything about that in the instruction manual), that if the Sun setting actually does automatically track the sun, that I need to polar align first. The manual doesn't say if I have to polar align first either. If I do need to polar align before tracking the sun, (how could I NOT?), how am I supposed to polar align with 24 hours of daylight? Any help you can provide would be well appreciated.
Hi Paul, wow, you have 24h of daylight, that's super interesting. What I would do is (a) polar align your tracker. You can't see the north star, so what I would do is first put your tripod into the north position - use a compass or look at Google maps to find out where your North is and put the 2i pro in the direction, so the polarscope faces north.. Second, put your 2i pro in the correct latitude position, you can Google the latitude position of your town. I'm at 52 in the Netherlands so yours will be higher, closer to 90 (which is the north pole). After that, turn the dial to"🌞" and it'll start tracking the sun when the light turns red. After that, you can use the ring and knobs to point your camera or telescope to the sun. A word of caution: NEVER look directly at the sun!!!! You'll go blind. You'll need special solar filters or a solar scope to watch the sun. Good luck!
@@AstroForumSpace Thanks! I've read the several methods of polar alignment when you can't see the proper star. I just needed to hear that PA was necessary. (Seemed obvious, but when one is new to something, one never KNOWS even the obvious.) The big deal, for me, was verification that the "Sun" setting actually tracked the Sun! That's sadly lacking in the instruction manual! Thanks again!
Good luck Paul, let me know if it worked out! Yes, first polar align and then simply turn that dial to solar and it starts tracking. That's what I love about the 2i pro, just turn and track.
@@AstroForumSpace Thought I'd follow up, since 1) you actually HELPED, ;) and 2) you asked. Today, I was able to get three hours of tracked sun, with the sun staying in the center of the frame. No chance of using Polaris, BUT, I used the Polar Aligner Pro app (on Android), in "Day" mode, and it worked well. As you said, I just put the Star Adventurer 2i in "solar tracking" position and it did the rest. The 3h video, (still sequence), is uninteresting, but the sun stayed in the center of the frame, thereby demonstrating that the Star Adventurer 2i was functioning as designed. Tomorrow, my first attempt at a 24h sequence. Thanks for the help.
I dont really know where to go with this, but i set everything up, and use the knob to turn it on the star setting, and set the switch to N and press the arrow and i do not hear the motor going. I know its supposed to rotate really slow, but would i hear the motor at all? I tried contacting the company but they havent got back to me. Im just concerned i got a defective unit
How well do you like the Ioptron tripod? I’m looking for a tripod for my star adventurer. That carbon fiber types can get really expensive and this one I can find for less than half the price or even less. So if it works well it seems a no brainer.
Do you need to use the app to use the mount? I see it’s only available for Android, so I don’t want to buy it and then get stuck because I have an iPhone.
Hi, thank you for that. I am thinking of buying one but have a question. I have a synscan from a goto skywatcher maksutov, can I plug that in and turn the tracker into a goto?
@@AstroForumSpace Do all star tracker mounts have same problem which is blocking by camera while polar alignment. I decided to buy this tracker. Is this a big problem?
Great video. Is the Polar light illuminator needed to operate this? I picked up a whole used kit, bit was missing that battery operate polar light illuminator. Contacted Skywatch but no reply. That piece not even listed on their site. And help or advice would be great. Thx
Thank you! The in box instructions were not ideal. Would have had 0 idea what to do without this
thanks wido , its under the christmas tree as we speak . Thanks for getting me into this hobby
I received my star Adventurer 2i pro in the mail today. I am setting it up tomorrow afternoon. Thank you for the video on the setup. this was really helpful.
Lovely video thaks. I've just bought one. I didn't realise you have to lock the clutch rather by turning clockwise. I was expecting some sort of free movement. My one also had a couple of loose bolts in one of the plates which caused it to wobble a bit so its worth people just making sure everything is tight before first use. Also worth noting that the counterweight isnt big enough to balance a 11lb load. I have a cannon 6Dii with a double battery grip and a 100-400mm lens and there is no way I could get the thing to balance. It just means buying another counterweight but its worth considering this before purchasing if you are planning on going somewhere and using it straight away. Also I have a camera tripod but with this weight on it I decided to buy the tripod. I was gobsmaked at how stable this is for the money, absolute bargain.
Glad it helped
It's nice to see a review that doesn't trash the week points as so many other reviewers do.
Hi Donald, thanks! I've used the 2i Pro for 6 months now and I really like the simplicity. I'm using the tracker for widefield time-lapses with my 50 to 250mm camera
@@AstroForumSpace I recently purchased one as well. Getting stoked for the upcoming Milky Way season!
Thank you for the tutorial. I just got my Star Adventurer 2i and I’m going to test it when I have a clear sky.
Thanks for this video. I was feeling a little lost without it.
I was pricing digital scopes when I realized I had a perfectly good DSLR at home, barring Amazon screwing up I should be able to test Saturday and Sunday and get a video of the eclipse next week. Being able to film it should be fun.
Same here. Breathed some extra life into my relatively unused DSLR.
Good review. I just started looking at motorized eq mounts again. (I have an old Meade telescope I bought used, but it's missing a few components of the drive, and picked up a motorized eq tripod and mount at a thrift shop, but the motor is dead). Figure it's time to just buy new, but am trying to keep it in the 3 digit price range.
This one caught my eye, so now I'm researching it.
What a great option for on the fly. Also great way to introduce people to the night sky with instant photos. Thanks Wido .
Thanks Perry, clear skies!
To be honest I never got to use my astro gear away from home ... That is with any success 😂... Simply too much gear and troublesome...
I wish those trackers had included a good sturdy mount and ballhead in the package and since the new version is out I had hoped they would bring the price of the 2i down so that it could be more affordable :)
I have seen a bunch of people use them with great success and I wish you all the best with it!
Thanks for the video and opening my appetite for a more mobile solution!
Hi there. Yes it's always a hassle 😉. I'm in Italy right now and I was able to check in my 2i pro, DSLR and tripod on the plane. I only have my kitlens with me but I was able to take 2 minute exposures with round stars at 18mm without guiding. Hope you'll find a nice mobile solution 🙂!
Both versions will stay side by side, the GTI is not a replacement for the the 2i, completely different purposes.
So if Skywatcher keeps producing both types of trackers, as they said they will, than there won't be a price drop I suppose
It's pretty cool. I own a Celestron 8se. I am really starting to link along the lines of astrophotography and I have a Canon Rebel T3. This stuff is all new to me. Thank you so much for the video.
You're welcome. Let me know if you have any questions along the way :-).
Very good explained Wido, I have also one here, have it for about a few months now but still not used it, new in the box.
Few weeks ago I saw the release of the new Skytracker GTI, different tracker and different purpose but looks a nice little go-to mount.
I contacted Skywatcher and they are planning to keep producing both trackers side by side, they said they are built for completely different purposes.
I guess I will use mine mostly on holiday, but have to try it out first, so looking forward to your upcoming videos
Hi Siegfried, thanks! My main purpose is to be able to take it with me on my holidays and do some astroscaping/ widefield imaging. I'm in Italy right now and first tests are great. I was able to track the stars with my camera and kitlens up to two minutes. Unfortunately we have clouds right now and I need to upgrade to a better camera/lens, but the 2i Pro did its job! Clear skies.
I've had mine for a while now just recently been playing around with the Astro time lapse mode! Got two minutes exposures with a Canon 6d with a 12mm lens
Cool, I need to check that tracking mode. Did you get a nice foreground? I usually take a separate foreground picture but it's always a bit of a struggle to integrate it with the stars. Clear skies!
@@AstroForumSpace this is for time lapsing!Depending on focal length and how close your foreground it tracks the stars and keeps foreground sharpish for a time lapse video
I understand better after watching this. Thank you :)
Glad it helped!
What tripod would you recommend. btw great video 👍🏻
🔭 Wido, It Would Have Been Useful For You To Show The UNLOCKING Of The Latitude Adjustment KNOB With The LEVER FIRST. This Loosens Up The Latitude Adjustment Knob In Order To Be Able To Turn It. You Only Show Locking The Lever Down Once You've Set Your Respective Latitude.
Otherwise, Great Video.
Thanks 🔭
Thank you for this UA-cam. I just bought it!!!! Sitting in the opened box right now. 😂.
Great video with all the details. Thank you!
Thanks!
If I'm not able to see Polaris due to tree obstruction, is there any helpful tips on how to align?
In my country, Polaris is so low it gets obstructed by my fence😭😭😭
Cut the tree!
Align it north then angle it 35 degrees that’s in the southern hemisphere so I don’t know if it works in the northern
Leave city or town where no trees
thanks man
Any time
what tripod did you use?
Thank you so much for the wonderful introduction. I watched it a couple times, and I very much appreciate your effort on making this video. May I ask, does the motor turn on when the dialpad is turned to astrophotography mode with celestial/solar/lunar tracking? Is there any other step needed if I choose not using the APP mode with WiFi? Thanks!
It will immediately start tracking after turning the dial to sun/moon/astro. No extra step needed.
@@AstroForumSpaceThanks a lot! It appears that I received a defective device, where only APP mode works. T_T
Ah, I remember that. Once you've used the APP mode it doesn't respond to the dial anymore. There was a trick, I think it was resetting everything to factory settings - and after that don't connect the adventurer to the APP. Hope this helps.
great video - thanks. Just to be clear - you tracked the sun and the moon without polar alignment?
I've had this exact tracker for just about a year, but unable to use thus far - it just so happens that my balcony is perfectly placed for observing Orion all night long, BUT the building obstructs my view of Polaris - so I can't align from my balcony. (I take care of my dad full time, so it's not often I get the opportunity to get out through the night)
You could use a compass, that helps.
Thanks for this informations, i have counter weight and The aluminum rod for it is in a telescope EQ I have, can I use it or is it not the same size?
Great Video, however I have one question. Do you have to set the time and date on the dials around the polar alignment view finder?
No. There's a visual polar scope. You can check other apps for the position of polaris and align the 2i Pro accordingly. A rough polar aluminium is often sufficient when using a dslr with short focal length
Which tripod did you 7s?
I bought the basic Sky Watcher Adventurer 2i. This did not include the "wedge", so how difficult is setting up this without the wedge? Thanks
Having a Sky-Watcher EQ5 with tracking and a Celestron CGEM mount, I am in the market now for something smaller that I can take with me to Australia or New Zealand to photograph the Southern night's sky, as I'm contemplating (not sure yet though). Besides from that endeavour, a small equatorial tracking mount would be perfect for shorter trips closer to home as well.
I cannot take the EQ5 with tripod with me to long trips (the CGEM is out of the question anyway, considering its weight), but this Star Adventurer seems just fine. Can I use a photography tripod for this, or do I need an astronomy-style mount?
The Sky-Watcher Star Adventurer Tripod is out for stock for months so I am trying to find a tripod that will work with my Sky-Watcher, what is the tripod you use in the video ?
I’m a beginner getting into astrophotography. Would you say this would be an easy to understand beginner mount?
Would you recommend this for beginner like me? Or should I proceed to the GTI version ?
Depends on your goals. If you want to use your DSLR camera with an uncomplicated tracker, go for the 2ipro. If you want to get into precisely tracking and guiding the night sky with a small camera/telescope setup, the GTI makes more sense.
What ball head do you use?
Sir pls reply i want to buy tripod for star adventurer 2i which type of tripod is great i live in india but i want to buy cheap and sturdy tripod for my star tracker can you suggest best tripods for my tracker
I have an iOptron tripod for my 2i pro, it's quite sturdy.
@@AstroForumSpacethanks sir helped a lot ❤ and great content
@@AstroForumSpace thanks for your guidance i just ordered mine ioptron tripod thanks and great content appreciate that
Great video. I have the 2i as well and am currently on the hunt for a more stable/sturdy tripod. What are your thoughts on the Sky Watcher one?
Hi Dominic, the SW tripod for the star adventurer if probably fine. I ended up with an iOptron tripod because that's what the astroshop in Europe had in stock. Good luck!
Hi Wido, thanks so much for this video! Do you know if it is necessary to get a ball head in order to adjust the vertical tilt of the DSLR once it’s connected to the mount, and would using a ball head mess with the balance in any way?
I recently bought the 2i pro pack and attached my DSLR to the fine-tuning plate but noticed that 1.) it would take an awkward combination of rotating the entire camera along the R.A. axis and swiveling it left/right on the plate to get the framing I would want for almost any given shot and 2.) swiveling the camera from side to side would throw off the balance in the declination axis. Would getting a ball head negate these problems?
I immediately ordered a ballhead with the 2i Pro, exactly for the reasons you've mentioned. You need to be careful not to move the tripod after alignment, but a ballhead is a great solution to point your camera to the area you're interested in. It works for me. Happy holidays!
Thank you so much, and a happy holidays to you too!
Hi, I have a question. Do I have to polar aline the tracker to the north star every time I got out to look a different object each night? I'm new to this.
My understanding is you align it every time you move the tripod. I also think for a lot of money you can buy ones that will search the sky, recognize constellations, and then align themselves.
I'm new to the Star Adventurer 2i. I live in Alaska and I want to take 24 hour time-lapse of the sun, TRACKING IT through 24 hours and keeping it centered in the frame. I can find nothing in the instruction manual about tracking the sun. Does the "Sun" setting on the unit automatically track the sun? I ASSUME (because it doesn't say anything about that in the instruction manual), that if the Sun setting actually does automatically track the sun, that I need to polar align first. The manual doesn't say if I have to polar align first either. If I do need to polar align before tracking the sun, (how could I NOT?), how am I supposed to polar align with 24 hours of daylight? Any help you can provide would be well appreciated.
Hi Paul, wow, you have 24h of daylight, that's super interesting. What I would do is (a) polar align your tracker. You can't see the north star, so what I would do is first put your tripod into the north position - use a compass or look at Google maps to find out where your North is and put the 2i pro in the direction, so the polarscope faces north.. Second, put your 2i pro in the correct latitude position, you can Google the latitude position of your town. I'm at 52 in the Netherlands so yours will be higher, closer to 90 (which is the north pole). After that, turn the dial to"🌞" and it'll start tracking the sun when the light turns red. After that, you can use the ring and knobs to point your camera or telescope to the sun. A word of caution: NEVER look directly at the sun!!!! You'll go blind. You'll need special solar filters or a solar scope to watch the sun. Good luck!
@@AstroForumSpace Thanks! I've read the several methods of polar alignment when you can't see the proper star. I just needed to hear that PA was necessary. (Seemed obvious, but when one is new to something, one never KNOWS even the obvious.) The big deal, for me, was verification that the "Sun" setting actually tracked the Sun! That's sadly lacking in the instruction manual! Thanks again!
Good luck Paul, let me know if it worked out! Yes, first polar align and then simply turn that dial to solar and it starts tracking. That's what I love about the 2i pro, just turn and track.
@@AstroForumSpace Thought I'd follow up, since 1) you actually HELPED, ;) and 2) you asked. Today, I was able to get three hours of tracked sun, with the sun staying in the center of the frame. No chance of using Polaris, BUT, I used the Polar Aligner Pro app (on Android), in "Day" mode, and it worked well. As you said, I just put the Star Adventurer 2i in "solar tracking" position and it did the rest. The 3h video, (still sequence), is uninteresting, but the sun stayed in the center of the frame, thereby demonstrating that the Star Adventurer 2i was functioning as designed. Tomorrow, my first attempt at a 24h sequence. Thanks for the help.
I dont really know where to go with this, but i set everything up, and use the knob to turn it on the star setting, and set the switch to N and press the arrow and i do not hear the motor going. I know its supposed to rotate really slow, but would i hear the motor at all? I tried contacting the company but they havent got back to me. Im just concerned i got a defective unit
If the Light is on the motor turns. It is really quiet, don't worry
@@AstroForumSpace thats assuring. Thank you!
How well do you like the Ioptron tripod? I’m looking for a tripod for my star adventurer. That carbon fiber types can get really expensive and this one I can find for less than half the price or even less.
So if it works well it seems a no brainer.
I like it. Its still very portable.
Do you need to use the app to use the mount? I see it’s only available for Android, so I don’t want to buy it and then get stuck because I have an iPhone.
Hi Lauren, no, you don't need the app. I never used it.
@@AstroForumSpace Thank you so much! Will proceed with purchase then ^_^
The app makes things way easier to be honest, I have an iPhone with this app (called Synscan).
Hi, thank you for that. I am thinking of buying one but have a question. I have a synscan from a goto skywatcher maksutov, can I plug that in and turn the tracker into a goto?
Nope, you need the star adventurer GTI for that.
whats the tripod?
how can you power the tracker?
AA batteries
For moon and sun tracking, do you still need polar alignment?
All eq mounts or trackers need polar alignment.
I'm totally lost with polar alignment way over my head as a newbie a video on that be good
I have this older video, perhaps it is useful for you: ua-cam.com/video/XqcbDC3pdG0/v-deo.html
Just buy the laser
can i use this star adventure with nikon p1000
?
Yes, the star tracker is completely independent from the camera, so you can use any camera you want.
Is it possible to do polar alignment when dslr is on the mount?
Not through the polar scope with the 2ipro. It will be blocked by the camera.
@@AstroForumSpace Do all star tracker mounts have same problem which is blocking by camera while polar alignment. I decided to buy this tracker. Is this a big problem?
Use
Great video. Is the Polar light illuminator needed to operate this? I picked up a whole used kit, bit was missing that battery operate polar light illuminator. Contacted Skywatch but no reply.
That piece not even listed on their site. And help or advice would be great. Thx
Not really, I can see the circle in the polarscope without the illumination. Hope you'll have a great time with the 2ipro!