Did Showtime's homeland teach you about bipolar disorder? Carrie Mathison, played by actress Claire Danes appears to have Bipolar Disorder I (BD-I) since when she stops taking her meds, often on purpose, she spirals into a strong cycle of mania, melancholy and a variety of mixed or psychotic features. I think Claire does an exceptional job of portraying various mood episodes often associated with BD-I. My own mother had BD-I, but was undiagnosed and untreated for the vast majority of her life. Many of the various depressive episodes and hypomanic stages which have been written into the Homeland story line rings very true. There have been times when the daughter of Carrie Mathison (Franny) is in danger because her mother has such an intense desire to be a successful CIA agent. Sometimes Carrie puts her career over the best interests of her daughter and her life. The series, even though sometimes it goes off the rails, does stay true to how Carrie manages to balance her BD-1 with the shocking story of espionage and counterterrorism. If anything, I think the Showtime series does an exceptional job of portraying bipolar disorder in a thought provoking fair and realistic manner. Hopefully it will educate viewers who were formerly uninformed about the disease what a toll it takes on a person’s life and the lives of those around them. I also love how the show highlights the medications Carrie takes for her illness and even they are realistic. Carrie has shared that she takes clozapine, lithium, nortriptyline, clonazepam which are all drugs often prescribed for those with the disease.
I know David was in a difficult position but I resented him for this… Clare was born for this role. Everyone was brillant. It was quite heartbreaking how alone she was in all this
“Same way we write off Carrie for being crazy, like that’s a story we’ve already heard and talk about how complex Brody is instead, instead of looking at the scarier fact that Carrie is the same exact archetype as he is: A savior of the world, who got broken and burnt in the process. The woman responsible for 9/11, who spends every second on the edge of going crazy with the thought that she won’t make up for her crimes before she loses herself, and the man who loves America so much he has to destroy it.” -Jacob Clifton on the similarities between Carrie and Brody We can say that Carrie was one of the best-built characters in history - alongside Brody, Saul, Dar and Quinn... It would be possible to clarify the following doubts: - Would you like to see Homeland reveal how the CIA explained Brody in Iran and his death to the American press? - Clearly, Javadi's ability to receive credit for Brody's capture helped his cause in Iran, but did the US government reveal Brody's role in Akbari's murder? - Was your name cleared for the CIA attack? I'd love to know what you think. - Another loose thread: Paul Franklin and the murder of the "real" CIA bomber. He ended up doing that scene ... why ?? Carrie was publicly humiliated, beaten, doped, shot and put her life on the line countless times without hesitation, just to make others see Brody as she saw him ... and she succeeded. Abu Nazir, the CIA, Jessica and the show's own audience, no one came close to seeing Brody with the clarity Carrie has always seen. Carrie has always read Brody like no one else. Ah, Carrie's dialogue with Javadi was incredible, it will be one of the most memorable moments in the series, without a doubt! “And what you wanted, which was for everyone to see what you see in him. That happened. Everyone sees it through your eyes now ... ” - How did Carrie see Brody? and how did the US come to see this? It's the world? Homeland had a sensible ending, closed all of Carrie's stories, while continuing the ongoing story of America's and Russia's rivalry. The series ends, but does not end, only better than that was seeing all these years incredible performances by Claire Danes, Damian Lewis, Rupert Friend and Mandy Patinkin ... “She was still under the spell of her infatuation. She had tried to forget him, realizing the inutility of remembering. But the thought of him was like an obsession, ever pressing itself upon her.” ― Kate Chopin, The Awakening Last one. It’s so amazing to me how novels and great writing can live on through so many different mediums and across multiple dimensions.
This ending scene was done purely perfect and satisfying to watch for a first finale in a show which led me to continues watching the series glad I did 😂
I remember watching this initially when it came out and felt DEEPLY, deeply sad for her. Everything about it felt tragic because I was convinced Carrie and her entire career and future were forever ruined and gone. Cuz once David saw that I was like oh yeah it’s all over for her… never thought possible to reinstate her as they did lol
I cant believe years later I still got emotional watching this LOL… my god.. When she says “I am about to solve this fucking thing” and it’s clearly so humiliating what follows bc David was like CIA director and it was such a huge dismissal from him 😢
I never watched Homeland. I watched the Homeland SNL skit. Then I wanted to see what Carrie is really like,. I watched this clip which encompasses it perfectly
Has Showtime's Homeland made a mockery of bipolar disorder? Absolutely not, and to suggest that the show has done anything to negatively portray bipolar disorder is entirely baseless. There is nothing about Claire Danes portrayal of the bipolar Carrie Matheson that could be considered “mocking” about the disorder. Sure, she is, for all intents and purposes, “stable” when she is on her meds. Now what happens when she is off her meds, that is the true face of bipolar disorder. She becomes manic in every sense of the word. Hyper-focused on a hundred different things all at once, spouting off grandiose ideas, behaving in ways that could generally be considered harmful (excessive drinking/drug use, promiscuous sexual endeavors), all things that have at one time or another been attributed to someone with bipolar disorder. On the other side of that coin is the depression. Once she comes crashing down, she finds herself in bed for days at a time, feeling like there’s a thousand pound blanket on her. She might have the desire to continue the things she’s working on, but there is no drive left in her. None. To even stand up and go to the bathroom feels like climbing a mountain barefoot. No two people with bipolar disorder are the same, nor does the disease affect two people in the exact same way, but I can say for myself, the aforementioned symptoms certainly applied to me at one point or another before I finally found a good balance in medication. There is one aspect of the treatment of Carrie Mathison’s bipolar disorder that I found may have been excessive, and that was the use of electric shock therapy. Well, I am not a medical professional and I can only talk about it through the reports (from serious, responsible and truthful medical sources) of people with their own experience, like every patient who has been treated by several doctors / psychologists / psychiatrists / therapists to the throughout their life, now I feel like they may have jumped into the electric shock treatment really fast on the show. In all cases of people with years being treated by doctors, the idea of electric shock therapy has never been proposed, not even mentioned, period. So, from my humble perspective, what Carrie goes through with electric shock therapy is totally foreign to me, now it could be for a number of reasons. Now I believe, with 100% certainty, I would not consider the program as “mocking” bipolar disorder, at all. The actions and situations they show are accurate, and the show handles the reactions of everyone around Carrie very well.
@Lorna M It's really good that you're okay like this. I want to present this news about how jiu jitsu is helping people with PTSD and bipolarity www.jiujitsutimes.com/robert-consulmagno-mastering-the-mind-for-jiu-jitsu/ In Carrie's case, whoever lives at the CIA lives in another dimension.
The saddest moment for me might be the end of “The Vest” after Carrie says, “I’m about to solve this fucking thing.” There’s something about that moment in film that just totally eats at me. The wailing jazz gradually drowning out her panicked pleas, how you have to strain to hear her and then must read the words from her mouth. Maggie and Frank hovering in the doorway watching Carrie totally unravel, utterly helpless to combat what is unfolding. Estes trying to make sense of what’s happening to this woman he used to like. The two agents dismantling Carrie’s work, as interpreted and made whole by Saul. Carrie screaming at Estes, “you don’t understand!” and then “I’m not crazy!” as the screen cuts to black. And the sharp absence of Brody, who laid the trap that Carrie walked right into, and Saul, who might have been the one person to lead her away from it. “I was intimidated by her darkness… but I was also excited by her. I loved her intelligence, and her strength, and her power. She’s just so in my nervous system, and in my muscles… she’ll always be there.” ↳ Claire Danes on Becoming Carrie Mathison. Question about Carrie's diagnosis. I always thought that Carrie was closer to the spectrum of schizophrenia because of the hallucinations she experienced without medication. Perhaps I am misinformed, now for bipolar disorder (also sometimes known as manic depression), I did not know that hallucinations are a symptom. Example - a hallucination occurs when she 'talks' to Aayan and more occur during S7×E09 - Useful Idiot. Any thoughts? First, I am not a clinician. Now, a quick Google search shows that some people with bipolar disorder have psychotic symptoms, including hallucinations. Origins: www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324440#overlapping-symptoms www.webmd.com/bipolar-disorder/is-it-bipolar-disorder-or-schizophrenia www.healthline.com/health/bipolar-disorder/do-people-with-bipolar-have-hallucinations I've seen this confusion before, as Virgil said in the pilot episode that Carrie is taking clozapine, an antipsychotic used primarily to treat schizophrenia. In other parts of the series, however, there are consistent references to her taking lithium and anxiolytic drugs like Ativan.
I really hope her performance in this scene got her some rewards for best actress for this scene alone, because damn. The look on her face at 2:58 cuts right through me.
Carries Jazz freak outs are ICONIC!!!
Please what's the title of this soundtrack, I'm looking for it since 6 years
Great actress wow
I can’t get over of homeland it’s like my 8th rewatch of the series
i just binged homeland over the summer and this is some of the best acting i have ever seen. this whole episode floored me
I can't count how many times I have rewatched this whole series lmaooo it's just so good
I remember that was the moment i falled in love with this show! OMG her performance and the song
This has been such an amazing show since the beginning. She is the best actress.
Jason Layton every episode revolves around carrie. She is like the only main character. We dont even see saul in every episode
@@SYDAirlineEnthusiast im glad.. claire danes is queen
Yes she is after getting others killed.
Did Showtime's homeland teach you about bipolar disorder?
Carrie Mathison, played by actress Claire Danes appears to have Bipolar Disorder I (BD-I) since when she stops taking her meds, often on purpose, she spirals into a strong cycle of mania, melancholy and a variety of mixed or psychotic features.
I think Claire does an exceptional job of portraying various mood episodes often associated with BD-I.
My own mother had BD-I, but was undiagnosed and untreated for the vast majority of her life.
Many of the various depressive episodes and hypomanic stages which have been written into the Homeland story line rings very true.
There have been times when the daughter of Carrie Mathison (Franny) is in danger because her mother has such an intense desire to be a successful CIA agent.
Sometimes Carrie puts her career over the best interests of her daughter and her life.
The series, even though sometimes it goes off the rails, does stay true to how Carrie manages to balance her BD-1 with the shocking story of espionage and counterterrorism.
If anything, I think the Showtime series does an exceptional job of portraying bipolar disorder in a thought provoking fair and realistic manner.
Hopefully it will educate viewers who were formerly uninformed about the disease what a toll it takes on a person’s life and the lives of those around them.
I also love how the show highlights the medications Carrie takes for her illness and even they are realistic. Carrie has shared that she takes clozapine, lithium, nortriptyline, clonazepam which are all drugs often prescribed for those with the disease.
This scene was heartbreaking, I was like: live her alone! , and hating Brody so much.....
Bruh David was a literal VILLIAN in this scene 🤣
I know David was in a difficult position but I resented him for this… Clare was born for this role. Everyone was brillant. It was quite heartbreaking how alone she was in all this
“Same way we write off Carrie for being crazy, like that’s a story we’ve already heard and talk about how complex Brody is instead, instead of looking at the scarier fact that Carrie is the same exact archetype as he is: A savior of the world, who got broken and burnt in the process. The woman responsible for 9/11, who spends every second on the edge of going crazy with the thought that she won’t make up for her crimes before she loses herself, and the man who loves America so much he has to destroy it.” -Jacob Clifton on the similarities between Carrie and Brody
We can say that Carrie was one of the best-built characters in history - alongside Brody, Saul, Dar and Quinn... It would be possible to clarify the following doubts:
- Would you like to see Homeland reveal how the CIA explained Brody in Iran and his death to the American press?
- Clearly, Javadi's ability to receive credit for Brody's capture helped his cause in Iran, but did the US government reveal Brody's role in Akbari's murder?
- Was your name cleared for the CIA attack? I'd love to know what you think.
- Another loose thread: Paul Franklin and the murder of the "real" CIA bomber. He ended up doing that scene ... why ??
Carrie was publicly humiliated, beaten, doped, shot and put her life on the line countless times without hesitation, just to make others see Brody as she saw him ... and she succeeded. Abu Nazir, the CIA, Jessica and the show's own audience, no one came close to seeing Brody with the clarity Carrie has always seen. Carrie has always read Brody like no one else.
Ah, Carrie's dialogue with Javadi was incredible, it will be one of the most memorable moments in the series, without a doubt!
“And what you wanted, which was for everyone to see what you see in him. That happened. Everyone sees it through your eyes now ... ”
- How did Carrie see Brody? and how did the US come to see this? It's the world?
Homeland had a sensible ending, closed all of Carrie's stories, while continuing the ongoing story of America's and Russia's rivalry. The series ends, but does not end, only better than that was seeing all these years incredible performances by Claire Danes, Damian Lewis, Rupert Friend and Mandy Patinkin ...
“She was still under the spell of her infatuation. She had tried to forget him, realizing the inutility of remembering. But the thought of him was like an obsession, ever pressing itself upon her.” ― Kate Chopin, The Awakening
Last one. It’s so amazing to me how novels and great writing can live on through so many different mediums and across multiple dimensions.
Brody caused this and six months later, carrie manages to get revenge on him thus leaving him to suffer for the rest of his life
This is so sad and well made 😞
This one hurts the most.
This ending scene was done purely perfect and satisfying to watch for a first finale in a show which led me to continues watching the series glad I did 😂
I remember watching this initially when it came out and felt DEEPLY, deeply sad for her. Everything about it felt tragic because I was convinced Carrie and her entire career and future were forever ruined and gone. Cuz once David saw that I was like oh yeah it’s all over for her… never thought possible to reinstate her as they did lol
Episode by episode/ season by season She literally pushed up Carrie's character to the stratosphere / an unmatched new dimension Bigger than Life!.
She translates it so well! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Brava to the most Brilliant ending!!!
I cant believe years later I still got emotional watching this LOL… my god.. When she says “I am about to solve this fucking thing” and it’s clearly so humiliating what follows bc David was like CIA director and it was such a huge dismissal from him 😢
You can FEEL the tension in this scene
I never watched Homeland. I watched the Homeland SNL skit. Then I wanted to see what Carrie is really like,. I watched this clip which encompasses it perfectly
Yeah I did the exact same, the skit is much more accurate than I expected it to be
This was rough to watch the first time. Claire Danes was incredible in this.
Has Showtime's Homeland made a mockery of bipolar disorder?
Absolutely not, and to suggest that the show has done anything to negatively portray bipolar disorder is entirely baseless.
There is nothing about Claire Danes portrayal of the bipolar Carrie Matheson that could be considered “mocking” about the disorder. Sure, she is, for all intents and purposes, “stable” when she is on her meds. Now what happens when she is off her meds, that is the true face of bipolar disorder.
She becomes manic in every sense of the word. Hyper-focused on a hundred different things all at once, spouting off grandiose ideas, behaving in ways that could generally be considered harmful (excessive drinking/drug use, promiscuous sexual endeavors), all things that have at one time or another been attributed to someone with bipolar disorder.
On the other side of that coin is the depression. Once she comes crashing down, she finds herself in bed for days at a time, feeling like there’s a thousand pound blanket on her. She might have the desire to continue the things she’s working on, but there is no drive left in her. None. To even stand up and go to the bathroom feels like climbing a mountain barefoot.
No two people with bipolar disorder are the same, nor does the disease affect two people in the exact same way, but I can say for myself, the aforementioned symptoms certainly applied to me at one point or another before I finally found a good balance in medication.
There is one aspect of the treatment of Carrie Mathison’s bipolar disorder that I found may have been excessive, and that was the use of electric shock therapy.
Well, I am not a medical professional and I can only talk about it through the reports (from serious, responsible and truthful medical sources) of people with their own experience, like every patient who has been treated by several doctors / psychologists / psychiatrists / therapists to the throughout their life, now I feel like they may have jumped into the electric shock treatment really fast on the show.
In all cases of people with years being treated by doctors, the idea of electric shock therapy has never been proposed, not even mentioned, period.
So, from my humble perspective, what Carrie goes through with electric shock therapy is totally foreign to me, now it could be for a number of reasons.
Now I believe, with 100% certainty, I would not consider the program as “mocking” bipolar disorder, at all. The actions and situations they show are accurate, and the show handles the reactions of everyone around Carrie very well.
@Lorna M It's really good that you're okay like this.
I want to present this news about how jiu jitsu is helping people with PTSD and bipolarity www.jiujitsutimes.com/robert-consulmagno-mastering-the-mind-for-jiu-jitsu/
In Carrie's case, whoever lives at the CIA lives in another dimension.
I personally took this very well. This kind of info spreads awareness and stops stigma.
@@Alpha_Academy5476 True.
Does anyone know the composer of the piano notes at the beginning of this clip? Tks
Have never seen the show but damn! Anne Hathaway is pretty fucking accurate.
What’s the jazz melody’s title? FREAKIN’ LOVE IT
Trista by Tomasz Stanko Quartet
she's good.
I love and hate this scene so much because it’s so relatable and accurate for me.
The saddest moment for me might be the end of “The Vest” after Carrie says, “I’m about to solve this fucking thing.” There’s something about that moment in film that just totally eats at me. The wailing jazz gradually drowning out her panicked pleas, how you have to strain to hear her and then must read the words from her mouth. Maggie and Frank hovering in the doorway watching Carrie totally unravel, utterly helpless to combat what is unfolding. Estes trying to make sense of what’s happening to this woman he used to like. The two agents dismantling Carrie’s work, as interpreted and made whole by Saul. Carrie screaming at Estes, “you don’t understand!” and then “I’m not crazy!” as the screen cuts to black. And the sharp absence of Brody, who laid the trap that Carrie walked right into, and Saul, who might have been the one person to lead her away from it.
“I was intimidated by her darkness… but I was also excited by her. I loved her intelligence, and her strength, and her power. She’s just so in my nervous system, and in my muscles… she’ll always be there.” ↳ Claire Danes on Becoming Carrie Mathison.
Question about Carrie's diagnosis. I always thought that Carrie was closer to the spectrum of schizophrenia because of the hallucinations she experienced without medication. Perhaps I am misinformed, now for bipolar disorder (also sometimes known as manic depression), I did not know that hallucinations are a symptom. Example - a hallucination occurs when she 'talks' to Aayan and more occur during S7×E09 - Useful Idiot. Any thoughts?
First, I am not a clinician. Now, a quick Google search shows that some people with bipolar disorder have psychotic symptoms, including hallucinations.
Origins:
www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/324440#overlapping-symptoms
www.webmd.com/bipolar-disorder/is-it-bipolar-disorder-or-schizophrenia
www.healthline.com/health/bipolar-disorder/do-people-with-bipolar-have-hallucinations
I've seen this confusion before, as Virgil said in the pilot episode that Carrie is taking clozapine, an antipsychotic used primarily to treat schizophrenia. In other parts of the series, however, there are consistent references to her taking lithium and anxiolytic drugs like Ativan.
The Bipolar disorder spectrum is very large, there’re also can be psychotic episodes during mania, like the hallucinations Carrie had.
@@SalhoFolina true
Originally that's where the episode was to end.
@@SalhoFolina yes, a female friend of mine suffers psychosis and when it's over, she doesn't remember what she said i.e. cursing words
I really hope her performance in this scene got her some rewards for best actress for this scene alone, because damn. The look on her face at 2:58 cuts right through me.
Emmy and Golden Globe awards
No! no! david! no! david! no no!
Family Guy brought me here
Carrie so should have chosen a different career path
What a great show and brilliant acting 👏
That went well don't you think 🤦🏿♀️
Why did Carrie go into a extreme rage on that episode just asking
Because she is getting arrested
You should watch every episode prior to this one to understand the emotional weight behind this scene. Heck that goes for any show.
She was actually suffering the effects of bipolar, the explosion in the eps before had caused a relapse.
She got too obsessed with brody being a terrorist
Anne Hathaway nailed this!!!
Dangerous or safe? Hands down
Comedy gold!
I could never take this show seriously.
So Anne Hathaway nailed this show
Snl 😂😂