im about 250lbs and here in the united Kingdom i have an engwe engine x that complies with regulations here in Europe. it has 55nm of torque which is enough and dual suspension and is a really comfy cruiser. Those 20 by 4 inch fat tyres are good and soak up the bumps really well. ive done a lot of mods to it including a 2 battery setup with balancer, bmx bar kit, 56t crankset, mirrors, indicators, extra wide saddle, 203mm rotors, plastic fenders and i installed a power analyser as the bike only shows battery bars and not watts, amps etc. i love the bike but had to fix a few flaws. as for range my 13ah + 10ah setup gets me about 50 to 60 miles on pas 2/3 not bad with my weight. my other bike is a Kona 27.5" Mtb which i converted to electric using a yose power 350w rear hub kit. it may only be a 36v motor but has no problem pushing me along even up steep hills very little effort is needed on my part and it has a decent turn of speed at about 22mph. ive modded that bike too. prior to owning these bikes i hadnt ridden in years and they've given me a new lease of life. i see more and more ebikes now and they're becoming ever more popular.
Well, I’m 265 lbs and four of these are on my short list: Velotric Discover 2 Rad Power Radster Trail Specialized Global Haul ST Aventon Aventure 2 (because it’s $1599, with a free extra battery right now) It seems to me that everyone’s got the message, the $1400 - $2000 range is very competitive. To be competitive in it, an e-bike has to have: hydraulic disc brakes, 750W rear hub motor, UL listed is becoming necessary, and several decent accessories (e.g., rear rack, front/rear lights with thumb controlled turn signals, fenders, and a decent looking display). Oh, and a throttle, though you have to pay more for the Haul ST’s, for some reason. I’m leaning to the Velotric, as I like everything I see. My next favorite would be the Radster Trail, except I want the Road version’s front fender (what are they thinking?). However, with Aventon offering the Aventure 2 for $1600 (forget the 99 marketing crap), with a free extra battery, which they have at $500, it’s hard to turn that down. Carrying a second battery would make any range concerns disappear. I’m going to a couple shops tomorrow (only Velotric and Specialized dealers in town) to see what they have. Thanks for your reviews!
I would pass on the Velotric D2. Only thing good is the weight it can hold. It did horrible on the EBR hill climb. No torque, no power to get you up the hills.
@@wkw4095 Look at that review again. They didn’t use boost mode, but used trail mode. Every other bike they put it in the highest setting, but for some reason, they purposefully neutered the D2.
@@skeller61 Yes, I commented asking why they would do this and to do the test over. They have some calculations for the discrepancy and still bad numbers. I wanted to try the D2 for myself at a local bike dealer which has a good size hill. Unfortunately the D2 couldn't be on the floor for sale do to a faulty controller. I don't like fat tire bikes but tested the Aventon Adventure (Step through). That thing was smooth, quiet and powerful climbing the hill and really solid flying back down the hill. I'm really considering it. Will try it again and decide if I want to load that beast on my truck.
@@wkw4095 I’m glad you followed up on the test. I don’t care about their “calculations”, just put it in the highest mode and let the bike show what it can do. For the life of me, I can’t figure out why they did that. It’s just like putting another bike in mode 4 (of 5) and saying, “well, geez, it did badly, but you can figure out what it would do in PAS 5”. Uh, no, that’s what the test is for. Again, if you want to get the Aventon Aventure 2, they are $2000 off with a free extra battery this weekend.
I appreciate this list and recognize the fact that a lot of heavier riders want a more powerful ebike... but I'd like to offer a reminder that lightweight ebikes with a solid max capacity are worth considering too. For example, the Velotric T1 and T1 ST have a rated carrying capacity of 330 lbs, which is more than two bikes on this list, despite having "only" a 350 W motor. I just want something that gives me a bit of help up a hill but still feels as nimble as an acoustic bike otherwise. After all, many heavy folks ride acoustic bikes too, and some of us want to be forced to do *some* exercise 🙂. For many of us apartment dwellers a heavy ebike is also more inconvenient than it's worth anyway. The problem is that many of these lightweight bikes have miniscule claimed weight limits under 275 lbs. So was pleasantly surprised by the velotric T1 in this regard.
@@glennmorgan4197 No it has not. It makes zero sense when you use the term acoustic to mean bike instead of e-bike. Acoustic does not work this way as a word, whatever analogy you are pushing is arbitrary.
As a tall senior this was really nice to see. The trike looks good, although I hope you aren't stuck with a meer 13 mph top speed. Seriously, I might want to exercise my dog, but I'm making room for it to ride, too.
I was wondering if you have tested recumbent bikes and trikes. I have a left leg that will not bend half way, so any ride where I am somewhat upright puts pressure on that knee. but still like to get out. So a recumbent that is not a issue I don't think. So a test of heavy rider recumbent trike with fat tires would be nice!
I'm on a fitness journey but I'm really interested getting a ebike for school and fitness. Currently 355lbs 6'4 depending on what 7/11 I'm running out of.
@@MymMars What range are you getting? I live out in the country and trying to find the best ebike for a bigger guy that can get me to town and back with battery to spare.
@@myquest84 about 30 on eco mode and definitely letting yourself do as much work as possible. The torque sensor definitely will help you but there are certain like programming aspects of it where if you're working your way up through the gears from a stop it gives you more help rather than you get up to say 15 mph and then cruise for a bit it'll stop giving you as much help but still a little bit of assistance if you know what I mean. Everywhere I need to go within a day is less than 30 mi so I usually get two to three days out of my bike before I have to recharge a battery but I have both batteries to use if I need to.
@@MymMars Thanks for the info. My round trip is 25-30 miles. I recently bought a used Aventure 1 and it can't quite make the trip, so I might upgrade to either the Aventure 2 or the Mokwheel Basalt.
@@myquest84 I definitely would check out the adventure 2 and hope it comes with a second battery. Other than maybe going to a double motor so motor up front and motor out back for a combined 1500 Watts I don't really see a reason why I would go to any other bike than this one. And I look at those other ones and they're all kind of You're on your own as far as a warranty whereas aventon has a store in town and I'm in Northwest Montana.
My Himiway Cruiser came at 350 lb payload, it can far exceed that. I was above that when i got it. Im under now but i could load 70 lb groceries in to with my weight, the bike weight. 48v/750w , true watts. Its awesome
I am very interested in newest bike models for heavy riders I’m 285 lbs. I def want as much power as poss also min 24-27 inch wheels and fat tires for trails. I’ll mostly do trails Appreciate any help thank you
@@ElectricBikeReport I'm thinking eMTB or Fat Tire. I would take it on the back of my RV and use it to get around the campground, rail trails, and dirt roads here in PA.
3:01 The bike I ended up getting, the Velotric Discover 2, was not done consistently with the others, in that you used the Trail mode 5, rather than the Boost mode 5, which neutered it. I don’t know why, but I wish you had been consistent with it, as it would have allowed for the apples to apples best performance. Why did you do this? Also, I unfortunately got this on June 1, the very day the price rose $200, to $1899. I was choosing between the D2, Radster Trail, and Aventon Adventure.2. I found the bike, even at the higher price, to be my first choice. Speaking of prices, it seems the prices you quote are pre-tariff prices, which would been a good thing to address at the start of the video, since it’s effects will be felt by most e-bikes in the US market.
The pedego avenue is our most recent Pedego review. ua-cam.com/video/BeEd0uj7jlA/v-deo.html We're in talks to do more with them, so make sure to subscribe to see when those come out!
Thank you, I greatly appreciate you and your excellent "work". I've had 5 mid drive ebikes reaching for perfection, I'm close but find it's hard to find offerings that fit my "needs", maybe you can help. The Fuell 2s would work. Mid drive, 90+NM, belt drive, gear ratio that matches steep hill climb, yet can cruise at over 25 mph. Are there bike that match or am I "dreaming"?
I started with an ST2, almost everything was changed on the bike. Almost under warranty but how many times I found myself on the side of the road pushing it (I took out breakdown insurance so much that it was serious). How many days off or recovery time I had to take because I didn't arrive on time. How many days the bike was at the dealership (we're talking in months over 3 years). In principle I do 10,000Km/year I sold the bike with 28,000Km, when it should have had almost 40,000Km!!! I still had to take care of a lot of repairs (fork bearings, front wheel bearings, etc.) Info from the salesperson, I had no luck, it was the Monday bike. I keep my confidence and after 4 years on the ST2, I buy an ST3 Woe is me, even more problems. The bike had not yet left the showroom when the front headlight was not working properly, the brakes were mounted in reverse (front for rear and vice versa). Today the bike has 9000 km over 2 years, I should have had almost 18,000 km It has been at the dealership an incredible number of times for non-stop repairs. Still the majority under warranty, but still with the same drawbacks. At my expense fork bearings at 2000Km, broken spokes on the front wheel (then it was replaced under warranty), recently, front wheel bearings. The bike is not even 2 years old and I am more than €500 out of my pocket in repairs which should be covered by STROMER The bike is not entry-level, I bought it for almost €9,000 I can only advise anyone against buying a STROMER, they all have problems. And as long as you are under warranty, you will only get a small amount :) Regularly it is necessary to replace the motor wheel (1500€), the front wheel, the brake set, the motherboard, the control console, the V-shaped headlight, etc.
I think you're really missing the category with full suspension. On the affordable side the Mokwheel Obsidian and those with deep pockets the Riese & Müller Homage 4 GT Rohloff HS.
Absolutely loved my Mokwheel until I needed to replace my battery. I have been waiting now for nearly 4 months for Mokwheel to restock them. I have emailed back and forth and get the same answer, we are sorry for the inconvenience but we have them on back order and please keep checking back on our site and there’s nothing they can do to fix this shortage. Now for approximately 4 months my Mokwheel bike has been sitting and useless. Apparently I’m not the only purchaser going through this after doing a little research. In fact I’m just about on the verge of putting a group together and starting a class action lawsuit, pretty sure I wouldn’t have a problem contacting several others with the same issue as far as part supply issues.
@@tomlavars2916 .. I ordered an extra battery from the local dealer and received it in about a week. Instead I'm waiting on the backordered rear Rack that's supposed to be available mid-June.
Hi I would like your help if the huffy Vienna 27.5" 36v 350w..bike would be good for me. I'm 6"2..260lbs...Im able to get this bike for free though a program at my job. I'm not a every day bike ride. Just may use it to ride up to my local shop center..will this be a good choice?
It's tricky to find those that are good recommendations for heavier riders. They are often on lightweight city bikes (with less powerful motors) or on the very high end that's too expensive for most people. If we come across one we like that fits the demographic, we'll add it in the follow up video!
@@ElectricBikeReport Thanks for the reply. Do you plan on testing the Lectric One soon? That would fit pretty well into a follow up video, it's rated to a rider weight of 330 lbs and is incredibly cheap!
@@ElectricBikeReport Great, thanks. Any other similar bike sold by anyone else? It's hard to believe that such bikes are not more commonplace even if they are more expensive!
Thank you for taking the time to make an excellent, fact filled video. Like your analysis and your attention to detail in your presentation. It helped us make a more intelligent decision, selecting E bikes. Keep those excellent videos coming.
🙏 please make a 【Best Long Range Commuter】 for every Budget. I have range anxiety with ebike. Having to pedal an heavy ebike home without power is such a pain. What the best long range ebike for every budget?
I do have a question I’m looking for something to use for commuting/travel that has both a battery that is decently long lasting but can be removed easily and where I can buy a few of the batteries for it from the merchant when buying the bike or trike or after the purchase later down the line. Do you have any great recommendations? As for distance as long as I can get about 30-40 miles on max throttle I’d be fine.
We've only recently started testing moped-style e-bikes using throttle-only power, and we haven't yet seen any reach the 40-mile mark. The Himiway C5 is about as close as we've gotten to 30 miles. Most e-bike manufacturers sell extra batteries that can be purchased separately. What style of bike are you looking for?
We haven't had talks with them for a few years. The last time we spoke they weren't interested in sending a bike in for review. We'd be open to testing one again if they are willing!
I love it when a rare enjoyable video comes into my news feed...! I am literally "in like" with this guy!!! I have 100% never been able to sit through ebike videos over 2 minutes. It's not that I'm impatient(well? Maybe sort of, kind of), but more of the fact that this guys voice-cadence keeps me focused and intrigued. Sounds weird, I know. Enough with the compliments..... As a towering 6'- 7(235 lb)" ebike owner, this height/weight situation has been a thorn in my side when picking out a decent ride. 4 years ago, the choices were pretty slim on the market, compared to today's vast offerings. I settled for a lesser known, and barely talked about fat tire brand/style called Magnum Scout. It was seriously the only fat tire available for my ginormous size. After a few hundred upgrades(literally), I have a behemoth of an ebike that still gets a myriad of "oohs and ahhs" on the daily. This super insightful video however, has got me doing a full 360 on the newer options out there for us biguns. The one thing that I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around though, is the rider distances given with all of these ebikes in the vid. I have 100% never gotten over 25 miles on a single charge with my current ebike set up. I just purchased a new battery with a 48v/21ah(previous 48v/19.5ah) power range yet, seem to still stay within the same distance and mileage max. I rarely use the fastest PAS option nor do I live on my throttle. It would be great to see an actual distance test done for those in the 200+ lb weight class. I will close my dissertation with this.... Your company has garnered a new member and fan of your page for sure and I look forward to seeing all of your vids.! Stay safe, stay cool, and more importantly, stay big.🎉❤😅 Tallest regards, Chef Craigers
Wow your liteweight ... I'm 6.4 300lbs is there something out there for me non hub motor for mountain up hill down hill and fast and very long distance??
A few I can think of right off the top of my head are: E-cells five star, wired freedom, onyx CTY2 or RCR... Except the onyx isn't in business any more, so you'd have to find a barely used, or a like new onyx CTY2 or RCR.
Im not even into bikes at all but this presenter is so captivating and interesting, I watched the entire video! I wish Griffey the very best with his channel and program. 🤩
I have a Lectric Ebike step through 2.0. On Mother’s Day l had a fall due to the brakes. They locked up and stopped very quickly. I jumped off instead of fallen off and landed on the curd . I landed on my wrist and broke it in 2 places, it was so bad l had to have surgery on it. It has been over 2 months and just got the cast off. It is still very fragile. Still Cannot lift, push or pull. It has been a problem since day one my first ride in the assist 1 it started out good then picked up speed very quickly. It took off l went off the sidewalk and l fell off. I did not get hurt , just my pride. Someone saw it and was laughing at me. He said he was sorry it just looked funny. . I am sure it did. I have had it for over 2 years and only have 95 miles on it. I choose to ride my other bikes . I live downtown Tampa and the streets are crowded. I am afraid it will accelerate suddenly and l may run into someone. I have a different Ebike and it rides smooth and brakes gently. It is a genze e102 , it is a smoother ride and smoother brake. I don’t believe Lectric Ebike no longer makes this model. And they have had issues on their bikes in the past and it even says the step threw 3.0 has a voluntary recall they will send you new brakes. I loved my Genze Ebike , l just needed higher handle bars to take the pressure of my hands, neck and shoulders. It is a bigger bike and does not fold , but it feels safer and broken bones hurt , and they can bother you the rest of your life. Wish l never bought the Lectric bike. My opinion it is not better if it is not safe for yourself and people around you.
Ok im 5 foot 10 400 pounds what is the best bike for me? I want it to go very fast and i want a large comfortable saddle seat. Easy ride Very fun Very fast
I didn't like any of those ebikes in the video. An acquaintance down the street bought a EYU 1,000 watt folding fat tire shipped to his door. I'm the kind to do research, but over 2 weeks I'm so frustrated and overwhelmed with all the ebikes companies, styles and specs of ebikes to choose from and I'm ready to give up. I was always that rider looking for thrills on my mountain bike, but I'm a little out of shape at 230lbs, but could loose 30+lbs if I started riding again. I'm far from rich, so I really can't drop several grand on overpriced ebikes, which are overpriced to begin with. I have been scrolling through so many ebikes from Vitalin, EYU, Bandit, Rundeer, Cyrusher, Giant, etc for weeks and my mind is blank. Do I even go with a folding bike and or even a fat tire? Do I go with some 1,000-1500 watt powerhouse thrill limiting my ride areas or do I go with a 750 watt? I have no idea what is really good, or bad, what is too heavy and what is a waste of money and junk. Any suggestions and advice on what brands and model I should consider from I listed or any others are greatly appreciated.
That's another good one that could definitely fit here. The Obsidian made it on our overall Best E-Bikes of 2024 video, so we didn't want too many repeats. It's an awesome bike!
I am 6 ft 2 and 200 lbs. I tested hundreds of E Bike that have 1000 rear hub motor, torgue sensor, full suspension with adjustable air shock. It holds up to 400 lbs and I paid $2300.
Look closely at E-CELLS. My E-CELLS Super Monarch Crown has a 400 pound load rating (including rider's weight). TWO wheel driver, TWO Shimano batteries, Dual suspension, 203 media. rotors WITH 2.3 mm thickness, 4 piston TEKTRO Dorado hydraulic brakes. Sor $5,100. you get a lot of good design, great build quality and a long list of good quality components. The new (2024) E-CELLS Kings Crown is an upgrade in design and components to my bike but at $5,800. it's not for every budget.
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Love my Five Star, shipped in April, top notch machine, thing is built like a rock... Have to take it up a flight of stairs so it gets my workout in every night lolz
mid drives can be better for heavier riders due to the ability to use the gears to help the motor perform, mid drives are more expensive which would affect the $$price for the bikes listed in this video, i am 290 and i just bought a BULLS bike w a mid drive
Thanks for your time and reviews I own a kepler Ariel rider fat tire e bike and after 4511.2 miles still love it ❤😂 ride to work every day !! And have been riding to work for 33 years riding all kinds of bikes.aprox. 4500 miles per year 😅
heavy people don't need more wattage , they need mor torque . It's Torque or NMs that get weight up an incline with the least effort especially if a mid drive is used . forget about a hub drive and a throttle . go for high torque and a mid drive
I own 2 very different inexpensive EBikes. Both rated for my weight (280) or better. I think I want something better that's between the two as far as style and tire size
Ebikes as they get better definitely have a lot of room for improvements. You have your full size Ebike and then your smaller more portable Ebikes and scooters sit downs and stand ups. I love the sporty full suspension powerful sports bike, but when I aim at practical and I believe that's what most people want. look for comfort, power! And not saying super fast but there is no reason not to start making more ebikes geared for torque and power! That means if it goes 32 mph and you hit a steep hill still remain at 32 or maybe 28 at the most with a person that may weigh over 250 but this is not the case as most use hubs and not middrives. Bike laws have a lot to do with this and somethings are going to have to change! Laws should allow any watts if the bike is geared to the recommended speed, many will need higher watts bigger motors not to go faster but to have that needed torque. As bike paths get bigger, longer bikes will need bigger batteries or the ability to nicely add two or three batteries and I mean not slaped into the bike frame looking all cobbled up but clean looking and batteries placed in the righ places for best balance and performance of the bike. We are getting close and we will see a small power compact Ebikes that is excellent for very long distances extremely comfortable and can pull a small trailer that can hold groceries yet has enough power to get up any hill with very little slow down if any so ebikes we start to have a option for excellent touring bikes and I'm seeing this with people modding and upgrading making the perfect Ebike.
Himiway Cruiser for $1199 has taken me (6'3", 300 pounds) over 3000 miles w/o any problems. I added a C9 seat and a zoom seat post. This testing prefers more expensive machines.
Not to be a bike snob, but spend the extra money and get a properly sized bike. There is not bike that only has 2 frame sizes and can fit 4-11 to 6-4+. I didn’t see any bike that was even remotely set up properly. Most real bike companies have at least 5 frame sizes. One fast way to check your seat height is your knee is slightly bend at the bottom of the pedal stroke with your heel on the pedal. When riding, the ball of your foot should be close to the center of the pedal.
A chart containing headings labelled MidDrive, IGH (internally-geared hub), Chain/Belt, Hub .otor, Weight and, yes Current MSRP...would be far more Communicative than all this palaver about about incine speeds/times, length, et cetera. And, most, if not All of these bikes are fabricated in the PRC as opposed to Taiwan (Formosa). Pass.
I have no idea why you push these bikes with 750W motors for heavy people I am 300 lbs and my bike has two 1000W with 95NT None of the bikes mentioned would stay up with my bike. AND my price was under $2000,
im about 250lbs and here in the united Kingdom i have an engwe engine x that complies with regulations here in Europe. it has 55nm of torque which is enough and dual suspension and is a really comfy cruiser. Those 20 by 4 inch fat tyres are good and soak up the bumps really well. ive done a lot of mods to it including a 2 battery setup with balancer, bmx bar kit, 56t crankset, mirrors, indicators, extra wide saddle, 203mm rotors, plastic fenders and i installed a power analyser as the bike only shows battery bars and not watts, amps etc. i love the bike but had to fix a few flaws. as for range my 13ah + 10ah setup gets me about 50 to 60 miles on pas 2/3 not bad with my weight. my other bike is a Kona 27.5" Mtb which i converted to electric using a yose power 350w rear hub kit. it may only be a 36v motor but has no problem pushing me along even up steep hills very little effort is needed on my part and it has a decent turn of speed at about 22mph. ive modded that bike too. prior to owning these bikes i hadnt ridden in years and they've given me a new lease of life. i see more and more ebikes now and they're becoming ever more popular.
Any recommendations for a uk legal bike that you would buy with mods already applied for a fellow chunky monkey?
Well, I’m 265 lbs and four of these are on my short list:
Velotric Discover 2
Rad Power Radster Trail
Specialized Global Haul ST
Aventon Aventure 2 (because it’s $1599, with a free extra battery right now)
It seems to me that everyone’s got the message, the $1400 - $2000 range is very competitive.
To be competitive in it, an e-bike has to have: hydraulic disc brakes, 750W rear hub motor, UL listed is becoming necessary, and several decent accessories (e.g., rear rack, front/rear lights with thumb controlled turn signals, fenders, and a decent looking display). Oh, and a throttle, though you have to pay more for the Haul ST’s, for some reason.
I’m leaning to the Velotric, as I like everything I see. My next favorite would be the Radster Trail, except I want the Road version’s front fender (what are they thinking?). However, with Aventon offering the Aventure 2 for $1600 (forget the 99 marketing crap), with a free extra battery, which they have at $500, it’s hard to turn that down. Carrying a second battery would make any range concerns disappear. I’m going to a couple shops tomorrow (only Velotric and Specialized dealers in town) to see what they have.
Thanks for your reviews!
I would pass on the Velotric D2. Only thing good is the weight it can hold. It did horrible on the EBR hill climb. No torque, no power to get you up the hills.
@@wkw4095 Look at that review again. They didn’t use boost mode, but used trail mode. Every other bike they put it in the highest setting, but for some reason, they purposefully neutered the D2.
@@skeller61 Yes, I commented asking why they would do this and to do the test over. They have some calculations for the discrepancy and still bad numbers. I wanted to try the D2 for myself at a local bike dealer which has a good size hill. Unfortunately the D2 couldn't be on the floor for sale do to a faulty controller. I don't like fat tire bikes but tested the Aventon Adventure (Step through). That thing was smooth, quiet and powerful climbing the hill and really solid flying back down the hill. I'm really considering it. Will try it again and decide if I want to load that beast on my truck.
Love my Adventure2!!!
@@wkw4095 I’m glad you followed up on the test. I don’t care about their “calculations”, just put it in the highest mode and let the bike show what it can do. For the life of me, I can’t figure out why they did that. It’s just like putting another bike in mode 4 (of 5) and saying, “well, geez, it did badly, but you can figure out what it would do in PAS 5”. Uh, no, that’s what the test is for.
Again, if you want to get the Aventon Aventure 2, they are $2000 off with a free extra battery this weekend.
Any information that will increase my knowledge on e-bike selections and capabilities is greatly appreciated.
I appreciate this list and recognize the fact that a lot of heavier riders want a more powerful ebike... but I'd like to offer a reminder that lightweight ebikes with a solid max capacity are worth considering too. For example, the Velotric T1 and T1 ST have a rated carrying capacity of 330 lbs, which is more than two bikes on this list, despite having "only" a 350 W motor.
I just want something that gives me a bit of help up a hill but still feels as nimble as an acoustic bike otherwise. After all, many heavy folks ride acoustic bikes too, and some of us want to be forced to do *some* exercise 🙂. For many of us apartment dwellers a heavy ebike is also more inconvenient than it's worth anyway.
The problem is that many of these lightweight bikes have miniscule claimed weight limits under 275 lbs. So was pleasantly surprised by the velotric T1 in this regard.
Bikes are not guitars. A mechanical/normal bike is not "acoustic".
@_PatrickO, it's been the accepted term for a while now.
@@glennmorgan4197 No it has not. It makes zero sense when you use the term acoustic to mean bike instead of e-bike. Acoustic does not work this way as a word, whatever analogy you are pushing is arbitrary.
@glennmorgan4197 Well, since ebikes are electric, one could say non-ebikes are "analog" or "standard".
call it a bio bike 😂
Are u saying I'm fat
This video was dedicated to people who ride around wearing weighted vests.
@@ElectricBikeReport think How fast they will be when they take them off
Lol… naw ur just big boned.
@@LushyDemise I feel better now
i am
As a tall senior this was really nice to see. The trike looks good, although I hope you aren't stuck with a meer 13 mph top speed. Seriously, I might want to exercise my dog, but I'm making room for it to ride, too.
I was wondering if you have tested recumbent bikes and trikes. I have a left leg that will not bend half way, so any ride where I am somewhat upright puts pressure on that knee. but still like to get out. So a recumbent that is not a issue I don't think. So a test of heavy rider recumbent trike with fat tires would be nice!
I would love to see a review on the Magicycle Cruiser Pro. Their website claims a 500 lbs load capacity with a 100 mile range.
Good point on the weight rating
how does this list compare with cargo bikes? Seems like they are rated for weight as well.
I'm on a fitness journey but I'm really interested getting a ebike for school and fitness. Currently 355lbs 6'4 depending on what 7/11 I'm running out of.
I've got 230 mi on my adventure 2 I'm down to 340. Best purchase of my life.
@@MymMars What range are you getting? I live out in the country and trying to find the best ebike for a bigger guy that can get me to town and back with battery to spare.
@@myquest84 about 30 on eco mode and definitely letting yourself do as much work as possible. The torque sensor definitely will help you but there are certain like programming aspects of it where if you're working your way up through the gears from a stop it gives you more help rather than you get up to say 15 mph and then cruise for a bit it'll stop giving you as much help but still a little bit of assistance if you know what I mean. Everywhere I need to go within a day is less than 30 mi so I usually get two to three days out of my bike before I have to recharge a battery but I have both batteries to use if I need to.
@@MymMars Thanks for the info. My round trip is 25-30 miles. I recently bought a used Aventure 1 and it can't quite make the trip, so I might upgrade to either the Aventure 2 or the Mokwheel Basalt.
@@myquest84 I definitely would check out the adventure 2 and hope it comes with a second battery. Other than maybe going to a double motor so motor up front and motor out back for a combined 1500 Watts I don't really see a reason why I would go to any other bike than this one. And I look at those other ones and they're all kind of You're on your own as far as a warranty whereas aventon has a store in town and I'm in Northwest Montana.
My Himiway Cruiser came at 350 lb payload, it can far exceed that. I was above that when i got it. Im under now but i could load 70 lb groceries in to with my weight, the bike weight. 48v/750w , true watts. Its awesome
I am very interested in newest bike models for heavy riders I’m 285 lbs. I def want as much power as poss also min 24-27 inch wheels and fat tires for trails. I’ll mostly do trails Appreciate any help thank you
Great informative video! What do you recommend for a off-road Bike that has front and rear suspension for a person that weighs 235?
What kind of off-road bike are you looking for? Fat tire, eMTB, moto-style, etc?
@@ElectricBikeReport I'm thinking eMTB or Fat Tire. I would take it on the back of my RV and use it to get around the campground, rail trails, and dirt roads here in PA.
3:01 The bike I ended up getting, the Velotric Discover 2, was not done consistently with the others, in that you used the Trail mode 5, rather than the Boost mode 5, which neutered it. I don’t know why, but I wish you had been consistent with it, as it would have allowed for the apples to apples best performance. Why did you do this?
Also, I unfortunately got this on June 1, the very day the price rose $200, to $1899. I was choosing between the D2, Radster Trail, and Aventon Adventure.2. I found the bike, even at the higher price, to be my first choice. Speaking of prices, it seems the prices you quote are pre-tariff prices, which would been a good thing to address at the start of the video, since it’s effects will be felt by most e-bikes in the US market.
Do you have any reviews on the Pedego bikes. If so where can I access them
The pedego avenue is our most recent Pedego review. ua-cam.com/video/BeEd0uj7jlA/v-deo.html
We're in talks to do more with them, so make sure to subscribe to see when those come out!
Thanks for review. Id like a stark varg for those longer hills but its a bit out of my price range😀
Thank you, I greatly appreciate you and your excellent "work". I've had 5 mid drive ebikes reaching for perfection, I'm close but find it's hard to find offerings that fit my "needs", maybe you can help.
The Fuell 2s would work. Mid drive, 90+NM, belt drive, gear ratio that matches steep hill climb, yet can cruise at over 25 mph.
Are there bike that match or am I "dreaming"?
You might want to consider something like the QuietKat Apex Pro or the Himiway Cobra Pro/D7 Pro. We have full reviews for both options!
Have you been able to review the Juiced JetCurrent PRO yet? We value your reviews, Thanks
Why didn't you test the Lankeleisi X3000 Max? Seems like it would've been an excellent contender.
I started with an ST2, almost everything was changed on the bike.
Almost under warranty but how many times I found myself on the side of the road pushing it (I took out breakdown insurance so much that it was serious).
How many days off or recovery time I had to take because I didn't arrive on time.
How many days the bike was at the dealership (we're talking in months over 3 years).
In principle I do 10,000Km/year I sold the bike with 28,000Km, when it should have had almost 40,000Km!!!
I still had to take care of a lot of repairs (fork bearings, front wheel bearings, etc.)
Info from the salesperson, I had no luck, it was the Monday bike.
I keep my confidence and after 4 years on the ST2, I buy an ST3
Woe is me, even more problems.
The bike had not yet left the showroom when the front headlight was not working properly, the brakes were mounted in reverse (front for rear and vice versa).
Today the bike has 9000 km over 2 years, I should have had almost 18,000 km
It has been at the dealership an incredible number of times for non-stop repairs.
Still the majority under warranty, but still with the same drawbacks.
At my expense fork bearings at 2000Km, broken spokes on the front wheel (then it was replaced under warranty), recently, front wheel bearings.
The bike is not even 2 years old and I am more than €500 out of my pocket in repairs which should be covered by STROMER
The bike is not entry-level, I bought it for almost €9,000
I can only advise anyone against buying a STROMER, they all have problems.
And as long as you are under warranty, you will only get a small amount :)
Regularly it is necessary to replace the motor wheel (1500€), the front wheel, the brake set, the motherboard, the control console, the V-shaped headlight, etc.
So you gonna buy another one when they come out with the st4?
@@tenncutt
certainly never again from STROMER :(
Aventon e bike
Perfect machine. Very nice ride. Very very very good response to rider control. Can’t go wrong here.
I think you're really missing the category with full suspension. On the affordable side the Mokwheel Obsidian and those with deep pockets the Riese & Müller Homage 4 GT Rohloff HS.
Absolutely loved my Mokwheel until I needed to replace my battery. I have been waiting now for nearly 4 months for Mokwheel to restock them. I have emailed back and forth and get the same answer, we are sorry for the inconvenience but we have them on back order and please keep checking back on our site and there’s nothing they can do to fix this shortage. Now for approximately 4 months my Mokwheel bike has been sitting and useless. Apparently I’m not the only purchaser going through this after doing a little research. In fact I’m just about on the verge of putting a group together and starting a class action lawsuit, pretty sure I wouldn’t have a problem contacting several others with the same issue as far as part supply issues.
@@tomlavars2916 .. I ordered an extra battery from the local dealer and received it in about a week. Instead I'm waiting on the backordered rear Rack that's supposed to be available mid-June.
If you had to pick one for all around what would you choose? Thanks 🙏🏻
Check out this Sunday's episode of The Weekly Recharge (episode 5)! We answered your question there.
Hi I would like your help if the huffy Vienna 27.5" 36v 350w..bike would be good for me. I'm 6"2..260lbs...Im able to get this bike for free though a program at my job. I'm not a every day bike ride. Just may use it to ride up to my local shop center..will this be a good choice?
I’m currently looking at the Gazelle bikes for,y wife and I. We have a good bicycle shop that will stand behind these Ike’s. What are your thoughts z.
Are any of these belt driven? Can a chain driven bike be converted into a belt driven bike?
For a great 20x4 fat tire look at Fucare Scorpio rated at 400lbs. Full suspension and everything else you want for $1079!
I'm a bit disappointed that you didn't cover any bike equipped with a belt drive. I'm looking for an e-bike but I'm done with chains.
It's tricky to find those that are good recommendations for heavier riders. They are often on lightweight city bikes (with less powerful motors) or on the very high end that's too expensive for most people. If we come across one we like that fits the demographic, we'll add it in the follow up video!
@@ElectricBikeReport Thanks for the reply. Do you plan on testing the Lectric One soon? That would fit pretty well into a follow up video, it's rated to a rider weight of 330 lbs and is incredibly cheap!
We've been testing a pre-production model, but are holding off on the full review till we get a production model in. VERY promising so far though!
@@ElectricBikeReport Great, thanks. Any other similar bike sold by anyone else? It's hard to believe that such bikes are not more commonplace even if they are more expensive!
Have any idea of how to e-bike. Disabled And 281. How can my Three wheeler, be motorized, front wheel electric.
Velotric D2 now has an app that will convert from Cadence to Torque sensor. Fantastic!
Loved your review, I just subscribed can you review the best trikes for heavy people.
Thank you for taking the time to make an excellent, fact filled video. Like your analysis and your attention to detail in your presentation. It helped us make a more intelligent decision, selecting E bikes. Keep those excellent videos coming.
That's what we do! Thanks for watching!
What is the information on the "test hill?"
Our test hill is a 1/3 mile paved path on a hill with a 12% average grade.
🙏 please make a 【Best Long Range Commuter】 for every Budget. I have range anxiety with ebike. Having to pedal an heavy ebike home without power is such a pain. What the best long range ebike for every budget?
I do have a question I’m looking for something to use for commuting/travel that has both a battery that is decently long lasting but can be removed easily and where I can buy a few of the batteries for it from the merchant when buying the bike or trike or after the purchase later down the line. Do you have any great recommendations? As for distance as long as I can get about 30-40 miles on max throttle I’d be fine.
We've only recently started testing moped-style e-bikes using throttle-only power, and we haven't yet seen any reach the 40-mile mark. The Himiway C5 is about as close as we've gotten to 30 miles. Most e-bike manufacturers sell extra batteries that can be purchased separately. What style of bike are you looking for?
@@ElectricBikeReport more commuter bikes similar to a normal road bike in style but that motorcycle looking one from this Gideon was neat looking
When you say load capacity does this include let’s say a wagon that is attached with stuff in it?
Yes, a vehicle's total payload capacity includes the rider and any cargo on the rack or in a trailer (plus the weight of the trailer).
@@ElectricBikeReport thanks
What is the best all around e bike?
What do you think of the Magnum Low Rider 2.0?
We haven't had a chance to review that one yet, but the Magnum bikes we have tested were generally solid.
Do you have a video like this for short people?
Short people got nobody!
@@tenncutt lol
I am short with short legs. Do you have reviews for short folks?
I bought a Lectric XP Lite. Needs more power for hills but is good for short folks
Anyone have any recommendations for someone on a budget like me? And I mean under 800 budget?
Why haven't you reviewed and or recommended a priority E-bike for over 5 years???
We haven't had talks with them for a few years. The last time we spoke they weren't interested in sending a bike in for review. We'd be open to testing one again if they are willing!
I love it when a rare enjoyable video comes into my news feed...! I am literally "in like" with this guy!!! I have 100% never been able to sit through ebike videos over 2 minutes. It's not that I'm impatient(well? Maybe sort of, kind of), but more of the fact that this guys voice-cadence keeps me focused and intrigued. Sounds weird, I know. Enough with the compliments.....
As a towering 6'- 7(235 lb)" ebike owner, this height/weight situation has been a thorn in my side when picking out a decent ride. 4 years ago, the choices were pretty slim on the market, compared to today's vast offerings. I settled for a lesser known, and barely talked about fat tire brand/style called Magnum Scout. It was seriously the only fat tire available for my ginormous size. After a few hundred upgrades(literally), I have a behemoth of an ebike that still gets a myriad of "oohs and ahhs" on the daily. This super insightful video however, has got me doing a full 360 on the newer options out there for us biguns. The one thing that I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around though, is the rider distances given with all of these ebikes in the vid. I have 100% never gotten over 25 miles on a single charge with my current ebike set up. I just purchased a new battery with a 48v/21ah(previous 48v/19.5ah) power range yet, seem to still stay within the same distance and mileage max. I rarely use the fastest PAS option nor do I live on my throttle. It would be great to see an actual distance test done for those in the 200+ lb weight class.
I will close my dissertation with this.... Your company has garnered a new member and fan of your page for sure and I look forward to seeing all of your vids.! Stay safe, stay cool, and more importantly, stay big.🎉❤😅
Tallest regards,
Chef Craigers
Thanks for watching! Hoping to hear more from you, chef!
Note the Velotric hill climb was done in a mode that did not utilize the full power of the bike
Fair point - it held greater potential then the score it had.
Wow your liteweight ... I'm 6.4 300lbs is there something out there for me non hub motor for mountain up hill down hill and fast and very long distance??
A few I can think of right off the top of my head are: E-cells five star, wired freedom, onyx CTY2 or RCR...
Except the onyx isn't in business any more, so you'd have to find a barely used, or a like new onyx CTY2 or RCR.
Why no SOUL STOMPER or MICARGI or TRACER ???😢
Im not even into bikes at all but this presenter is so captivating and interesting, I watched the entire video! I wish Griffey the very best with his channel and program. 🤩
You're too kind :)
I want an aventon ramblas but when I went to order it was only for usa and canada... now I have to search for some knock of for Europe
Aventon is my pick, just an all-around great bike for what it's made for.
You always leave off the very best ebike brand: Riese and Mueller, Gazelle, Bull etc. All have Bosch mid mounted motors, only way to go!
I'm a pretty heavy guy and my last acoustic bike had it's back wheel pop probably due to my weight
I have a Lectric Ebike step through 2.0. On Mother’s Day l had a fall due to the brakes. They locked up and stopped very quickly. I jumped off instead of fallen off and landed on the curd . I landed on my wrist and broke it in 2 places, it was so bad l had to have surgery on it. It has been over 2 months and just got the cast off. It is still very fragile. Still Cannot lift, push or pull. It has been a problem since day one my first ride in the assist 1 it started out good then picked up speed very quickly. It took off l went off the sidewalk and l fell off. I did not get hurt , just my pride. Someone saw it and was laughing at me. He said he was sorry it just looked funny. . I am sure it did. I have had it for over 2 years and only have 95 miles on it. I choose to ride my other bikes . I live downtown Tampa and the streets are crowded. I am afraid it will accelerate suddenly and l may run into someone. I have a different Ebike and it rides smooth and brakes gently. It is a genze e102 , it is a smoother ride and smoother brake. I don’t believe Lectric Ebike no longer makes this model. And they have had issues on their bikes in the past and it even says the step threw 3.0 has a voluntary recall they will send you new brakes. I loved my Genze Ebike , l just needed higher handle bars to take the pressure of my hands, neck and shoulders. It is a bigger bike and does not fold , but it feels safer and broken bones hurt , and they can bother you the rest of your life. Wish l never bought the Lectric bike. My opinion it is not better if it is not safe for yourself and people around you.
Please do some review on lankeleisi x3000 max 🙏🏼
It's magic cycle what a beast of a bike I have a step through cruiser 20 amp battery 52 Volts of raw power. Very strong bike. 😊
Who fixes them?
Local bike shops are becoming more flexible. Call and ask your local one ahead of time before purchasing if they would service X bike.
How about doing a review on the $800 to $1000 e bikes I’m not going to ride a lot but I would like to have one
Ok im 5 foot 10 400 pounds what is the best bike for me?
I want it to go very fast and i want a large comfortable saddle seat.
Easy ride
Very fun
Very fast
E Cell 5 star , Wired Cruiser and Motor Goat
Can't be a complete 2024 review of this segment without those 3 bikes.
Did not pay them to “review”
I didn't like any of those ebikes in the video. An acquaintance down the street bought a EYU 1,000 watt folding fat tire shipped to his door. I'm the kind to do research, but over 2 weeks I'm so frustrated and overwhelmed with all the ebikes companies, styles and specs of ebikes to choose from and I'm ready to give up. I was always that rider looking for thrills on my mountain bike, but I'm a little out of shape at 230lbs, but could loose 30+lbs if I started riding again. I'm far from rich, so I really can't drop several grand on overpriced ebikes, which are overpriced to begin with. I have been scrolling through so many ebikes from Vitalin, EYU, Bandit, Rundeer, Cyrusher, Giant, etc for weeks and my mind is blank. Do I even go with a folding bike and or even a fat tire? Do I go with some 1,000-1500 watt powerhouse thrill limiting my ride areas or do I go with a 750 watt? I have no idea what is really good, or bad, what is too heavy and what is a waste of money and junk. Any suggestions and advice on what brands and model I should consider from I listed or any others are greatly appreciated.
Did you end up buying any bike?
@@6353JuanTabo Nope, with the high prices for the good ones and too many to choose from, I said the hell with it.
What about the Mokwheel Obsidian.
That's another good one that could definitely fit here. The Obsidian made it on our overall Best E-Bikes of 2024 video, so we didn't want too many repeats. It's an awesome bike!
I am 6 ft 2 and 200 lbs. I tested hundreds of E Bike that have 1000 rear hub motor, torgue sensor, full suspension with adjustable air shock. It holds up to 400 lbs and I paid $2300.
Look closely at E-CELLS. My E-CELLS Super Monarch Crown has a 400 pound load rating (including rider's weight). TWO wheel driver, TWO Shimano batteries, Dual suspension, 203 media. rotors WITH 2.3 mm thickness, 4 piston TEKTRO Dorado hydraulic brakes.
Sor $5,100. you get a lot of good design, great build quality and a long list of good quality components.
The new (2024) E-CELLS Kings Crown is an upgrade in design and components to my bike but at $5,800. it's not for every budget.
Your channel is top notch 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Thanks for watching! Our team works hard on every piece of content.
thank you for the insight"
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E-Cell E-bikes and Owner David Cleveland will be there in Booth 806. A chance to meet David, ask questions, and Test Ride E-Cells full line of E-bikes.
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Love my Five Star, shipped in April, top notch machine, thing is built like a rock... Have to take it up a flight of stairs so it gets my workout in every night lolz
How about tall ?
Vulcan OG should have been on this list!
Need heavy duty ebike that spokes won't break ridiculous bought one for over 2.000 have trouble with spokes breaking on bk wheel
i love my seeker26 dual motor dual battery .. fast.. strong.. comfortable and long range with 52v 50Ah
WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO FEATURE BELT-DRIVEN
I’m 413 lbs, any e bike for me???
You might want to consider something from Velotric, like the Nomad 1 Plus. Most of their bikes have a total payload of 440 lbs.
@@ElectricBikeReport THANK YOU
Surprised you didn't list aipas bikes. Aipas trike especially surprised lectric
Hub motors are NOT great for larger riders ie 300+ unles dual hub motors. Why were there not more mid drive motor bikes listed?
Either motor has advantages or drawbacks. Typically hub motors are the more powrful one that better moves higher weight capacities.
mid drives can be better for heavier riders due to the ability to use the gears to help the motor perform, mid drives are more expensive which would affect the $$price for the bikes listed in this video, i am 290 and i just bought a BULLS bike w a mid drive
you forgot the Jasion Hunter holds over 400pounds
Thanks for your time and reviews I own a kepler Ariel rider fat tire e bike and after 4511.2 miles still love it ❤😂 ride to work every day !! And have been riding to work for 33 years riding all kinds of bikes.aprox. 4500 miles per year 😅
It wouldn't have occurred to me to look for this review but being over 6 feet tall i can attest to most things not being built for my specific size.
Soulfast Cuda left off this list?
We weren't familiar with that bike until now, but it looks really cool!
heavy people don't need more wattage , they need mor torque . It's Torque or NMs that get weight up an incline with the least effort especially if a mid drive is used . forget about a hub drive and a throttle . go for high torque and a mid drive
I didnt see one real Heavy person riding. Show me an out of shape 270 to 300 lb person trying to get out there and be active on something and Im in.
Iv got 3. Had 6. Im200
I own 2 very different inexpensive EBikes. Both rated for my weight (280) or better. I think I want something better that's between the two as far as style and tire size
Lol... That's me.
Started ebike at 360 down to 320 now. Had to get a more heavy duty rear wheel built. I was breaking spokes constantly. Bike puts out 85nm
😂😂😂
Himiway e-bike
Perfect machine. Can’t go wrong here.
Hi are you interested to test our ebike in Italy?
Ebikes as they get better definitely have a lot of room for improvements. You have your full size Ebike and then your smaller more portable Ebikes and scooters sit downs and stand ups. I love the sporty full suspension powerful sports bike, but when I aim at practical and I believe that's what most people want. look for comfort, power! And not saying super fast but there is no reason not to start making more ebikes geared for torque and power! That means if it goes 32 mph and you hit a steep hill still remain at 32 or maybe 28 at the most with a person that may weigh over 250 but this is not the case as most use hubs and not middrives. Bike laws have a lot to do with this and somethings are going to have to change! Laws should allow any watts if the bike is geared to the recommended speed, many will need higher watts bigger motors not to go faster but to have that needed torque. As bike paths get bigger, longer bikes will need bigger batteries or the ability to nicely add two or three batteries and I mean not slaped into the bike frame looking all cobbled up but clean looking and batteries placed in the righ places for best balance and performance of the bike. We are getting close and we will see a small power compact Ebikes that is excellent for very long distances extremely comfortable and can pull a small trailer that can hold groceries yet has enough power to get up any hill with very little slow down if any so ebikes we start to have a option for excellent touring bikes and I'm seeing this with people modding and upgrading making the perfect Ebike.
Surprised how few of these are for people over 6'4
I'm skinny and dying to try these death machines
YOU GUYS ARE NUTS E-CELL WILL OUT DO ALL THOSE MINI BIKEES
What about e-bikes for husky people
All synonyms welcome in this video!
Magnum Ranger...=))
Himiway Cruiser for $1199 has taken me (6'3", 300 pounds) over 3000 miles w/o any problems. I added a C9 seat and a zoom seat post. This testing prefers more expensive machines.
Not to be a bike snob, but spend the extra money and get a properly sized bike. There is not bike that only has 2 frame sizes and can fit 4-11 to 6-4+. I didn’t see any bike that was even remotely set up properly. Most real bike companies have at least 5 frame sizes. One fast way to check your seat height is your knee is slightly bend at the bottom of the pedal stroke with your heel on the pedal. When riding, the ball of your foot should be close to the center of the pedal.
Preferred Velotric Nomad
Edward here. Triķe.
Really wish the freesky warrior made this list
Looks like St. George Utah
Bingo!
I’ll stay with my QuietKat Ranger.
Wallkee H9 or H7 is the way to go… cheers
Hello, it's Jen from Freedare eBike. We've emailed you about a potential collaboration and are eagerly awaiting your response.
I’m not fat, I’m dense.
XD
A chart containing headings labelled MidDrive, IGH (internally-geared hub), Chain/Belt, Hub .otor, Weight and, yes Current MSRP...would be far more Communicative than all this palaver about about incine speeds/times, length, et cetera. And, most, if not All of these bikes are fabricated in the PRC as opposed to Taiwan (Formosa). Pass.
if the aventon had 1000w mid drive motor Id be all over it
I have no idea why you push these bikes with 750W motors for heavy people I am 300 lbs and my bike has two 1000W with 95NT None of the bikes mentioned would stay up with my bike. AND my price was under $2000,
What bikes should I look at?