I will NEVER again fly Lufthansa on a long haul flight! For the money I paid for a round trip business class between San Diego and Rome, I certainly expected better and friendlier service. The business class configuration was 2-2-2. ! Next time I take ITA airlines none stop from LAX. They have a 1-2-1 business class layout, and the service is EXCELLENT, which one can’t say about Lufthansa ! Thanks for this informative video, I wasn’t aware that in business class there is a 2-3-2 configuration! WOW 😮
So it seems to depend on the plane. Some are configured in a 2:2:2 and as I mentioned it was a very pleasant experience but could have been different if the cabin was full. In some ways it's a little like hotels, the one that has just recently refurbished tends to be the nicest. I'm hoping to try Lufthansa's new Allegris product this year so may be give it a few years and try them again. If you get the chance let us know. Very curious to see what ITA are like . Thanks for watching! 🙂
@@liftoffandtravel The flight was full. What made it feel special was the lack of seats,it felt very much like being in 1st class or on private jet. Plus a more quite cabin. I have family history with the 747 so I can honestly say it was the best flight I have ever been on. I only hope I will get to fly again. Book a flight on a 747 and if you can book a upper deck seat. Ps the total seats are 32 with a layout 2-2 across
@@colinjosling2108 magical aren't they and not many left 😔 I was considering an around the world in just the 747 but it' appears to be impossible. Particularly from the UK. Glad you enjoyed it 👍
Small correction: Condor is not part of the Lufthansa Group. It was formerly owned by Thomas Cook, which went bankrupt, and is not to be confused with the Lufthansa Group's leisure airline Discover, which also has a blue and yellow striped livery. Condor's livery is very distinctive and has been a source of much controversy, and excellent marketing for its new brand redesign starting 2022.
Thank you, yes a few people have mentioned this. Clearly I was the last one to know 😂 Totally agree, I have heard a few not many moan about the livery but I think it's brilliant especially as they decided to go with so many colours. Truely iconic! 💛💙❤️💚🖤
@@liftoffandtravel But it's an easy mistake to make. After all, Condor was a LH subsidiary for decades. The Lufthansa Group only sold it's last Condor shares in 2009.
@@olfrygt Thanks, I'm not even sure how I missed news articles stating it. Then again it wasn't until June this year that I realised GOL had applied for bankruptcy.
@@pokkeherrie1887 thank you for watching 👀👍 I hope for you that the flight isn't is busy because it makes quite a difference to the experience. On an overnight flight it's not really an issue. Did you book the upper decker or lower?
@10:35 AKG are one of the most renowned acoustics & studio equipment manufacturers in the world... ;-) @10:57 "reesling", not "riceling"... @11:06 romanesco, a type of cauliflower
@@liftoffandtravel The brand mostly produces studio equipment (microphones, headphones, ...) geared towards professional use. But since they were acquired by Harman in 1994 (which later became a subsidiary of Samsung) they also began producing for a broader consumer market (i.e. at lower price points). For details just go to Wikipedia :-)
Just for future reference, there is no “th” sound in German like English “thanks” or “the.” Lufthansa is pronounced “Looft-HANS-uh” in which the t and h stay separate and do not combine.
@@bill2p I do genuinely appreciate your message! I spent years not knowing how to pronounce the airport in Bangkok. Will try and remember to say it correctly from now on. Cheers 🍻👍
We have flown on 747s many times, from long ago when there was a bar to the current renditions. Since my husband and I always travel together, the seating has never bothered me. What always concerns me is how well-maintained they were. Your flight looked like a fine one.
Yes to be fair to the age of the product it didn't have any major wear and tear. They look very new. Unlike some airlines who have had their product a few years. I think because we live in a world where airlines are pushing for privacy it's viewed as dated but the seat is very comfortable and the cabin crew fantastic. When did they get rid of the bars?
@@liftoffandtravel@liftoffandtravel In the 70s, the lounges and bars were prolific in the 747, but I think 1991 was the last time we saw the lounge, and I think it was BA, but not sure.
@@liftoffandtravel It was much more relaxed all around, with no real security. People were more civilized and cared about appearance. The seats were more comfortable, and there was more room. Fewer people traveled upper class, and those who did were catered to. The whole vibe was just more relaxed. Although the flight attendants were spiffed up a bit more, they seemed happier to be there. Flying was more expensive in relative dollars, thus making it seem more special. The only thing I am very happy about is that you can not smoke. That almost killed me sitting in a cloud. The passengers are so different today; it makes a difference.
@@mikiewifnoe360 that's so true about the smoking besides the safety risk 😶 I have to admit even Noel Philips shares my sentiment. I could wear a nice shirt and I have been tempted but they aren't that comfortable. Even jeans are restricting when trying to sleep. Yes security, I remember various movies where loved ones could see people of at the gate or stop them from flying because they wanted to declare their love. 💚
So my upgrade price was just under 1000 euros. It could be considered quite steep but the difference between the products is huge. It could also vary depending on how busy the cabin is. Thank you dynamic pricing 😕
@@liftoffandtravel Yes the difference from Economy to Business is for sure noticeable, where business is much better, especially on Long haul flights. I also paid 900 euros last month for an upgrade, Lufthansa LH506 from Frankfurt to Sao Paulo, on a 747-800.
@@liftoffandtravelduring the week for work, over the weekend for fun. I stayed 1 month, and then back directly from Rio to Fra. On an Airbus A340. Still in Business but this time the upgrade was 1100 euros.
Hi there, thanks for the video. 3:01 Condor is NOT part of the LH Group anymore.
Mind blown! Had to Google it. Am I right in saying they were until 2021 when they were bought out?
@@liftoffandtravel LH was a shareholder till 2009.
@@Mario-ch9nl Interesting, I'm learning a lot 😊
I will NEVER again fly Lufthansa on a long haul flight! For the money I paid for a round trip business class between San Diego and Rome, I certainly expected better and friendlier service. The business class configuration was 2-2-2. ! Next time I take ITA airlines none stop from LAX. They have a 1-2-1 business class layout, and the service is EXCELLENT, which one can’t say about Lufthansa ! Thanks for this informative video, I wasn’t aware that in business class there is a 2-3-2 configuration! WOW 😮
So it seems to depend on the plane. Some are configured in a 2:2:2 and as I mentioned it was a very pleasant experience but could have been different if the cabin was full.
In some ways it's a little like hotels, the one that has just recently refurbished tends to be the nicest. I'm hoping to try Lufthansa's new Allegris product this year so may be give it a few years and try them again.
If you get the chance let us know. Very curious to see what ITA are like .
Thanks for watching! 🙂
Nice review
Thank you 💚
I took this service in march 24 and although it may be a bit dated. I couldn't complain. My suggestion is if possible always fly in the bubble.
@@colinjosling2108 how busy was the flight? I found it odd that the busiest part was the upper deck. I guess the fear of sitting in 7 across 💺
@@liftoffandtravel The flight was full. What made it feel special was the lack of seats,it felt very much like being in 1st class or on private jet. Plus a more quite cabin. I have family history with the 747 so I can honestly say it was the best flight I have ever been on. I only hope I will get to fly again. Book a flight on a 747 and if you can book a upper deck seat. Ps the total seats are 32 with a layout 2-2 across
@@colinjosling2108 magical aren't they and not many left 😔 I was considering an around the world in just the 747 but it' appears to be impossible. Particularly from the UK.
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
Small correction: Condor is not part of the Lufthansa Group. It was formerly owned by Thomas Cook, which went bankrupt, and is not to be confused with the Lufthansa Group's leisure airline Discover, which also has a blue and yellow striped livery. Condor's livery is very distinctive and has been a source of much controversy, and excellent marketing for its new brand redesign starting 2022.
Thank you, yes a few people have mentioned this. Clearly I was the last one to know 😂
Totally agree, I have heard a few not many moan about the livery but I think it's brilliant especially as they decided to go with so many colours.
Truely iconic! 💛💙❤️💚🖤
@@liftoffandtravel But it's an easy mistake to make. After all, Condor was a LH subsidiary for decades. The Lufthansa Group only sold it's last Condor shares in 2009.
@@olfrygt Thanks, I'm not even sure how I missed news articles stating it. Then again it wasn't until June this year that I realised GOL had applied for bankruptcy.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. We are flying in Business Class with Lufthansa in November to Miami and I was curious how it will be.
@@pokkeherrie1887 thank you for watching 👀👍 I hope for you that the flight isn't is busy because it makes quite a difference to the experience. On an overnight flight it's not really an issue.
Did you book the upper decker or lower?
@@liftoffandtravel I travel with my girlfriend and we ve book our seats in the upper deck.
To Miami its a day flight and back home its overnight.
@10:35 AKG are one of the most renowned acoustics & studio equipment manufacturers in the world... ;-)
@10:57 "reesling", not "riceling"...
@11:06 romanesco, a type of cauliflower
Thanks for letting us know 👍 Where do AKG mostly cater to?
@@liftoffandtravel The brand mostly produces studio equipment (microphones, headphones, ...) geared towards professional use. But since they were acquired by Harman in 1994 (which later became a subsidiary of Samsung) they also began producing for a broader consumer market (i.e. at lower price points). For details just go to Wikipedia :-)
Just for future reference, there is no “th” sound in German like English “thanks” or “the.” Lufthansa is pronounced “Looft-HANS-uh” in which the t and h stay separate and do not combine.
@@bill2p I do genuinely appreciate your message! I spent years not knowing how to pronounce the airport in Bangkok.
Will try and remember to say it correctly from now on. Cheers 🍻👍
We have flown on 747s many times, from long ago when there was a bar to the current renditions. Since my husband and I always travel together, the seating has never bothered me. What always concerns me is how well-maintained they were. Your flight looked like a fine one.
Yes to be fair to the age of the product it didn't have any major wear and tear. They look very new. Unlike some airlines who have had their product a few years.
I think because we live in a world where airlines are pushing for privacy it's viewed as dated but the seat is very comfortable and the cabin crew fantastic.
When did they get rid of the bars?
@@liftoffandtravel@liftoffandtravel In the 70s, the lounges and bars were prolific in the 747, but I think 1991 was the last time we saw the lounge, and I think it was BA, but not sure.
@@mikiewifnoe360 somehow the A380s have sort of replaced them... particularly with the bar.
How does flying compare 70s vs today?
@@liftoffandtravel It was much more relaxed all around, with no real security. People were more civilized and cared about appearance. The seats were more comfortable, and there was more room. Fewer people traveled upper class, and those who did were catered to. The whole vibe was just more relaxed. Although the flight attendants were spiffed up a bit more, they seemed happier to be there. Flying was more expensive in relative dollars, thus making it seem more special. The only thing I am very happy about is that you can not smoke. That almost killed me sitting in a cloud. The passengers are so different today; it makes a difference.
@@mikiewifnoe360 that's so true about the smoking besides the safety risk 😶
I have to admit even Noel Philips shares my sentiment. I could wear a nice shirt and I have been tempted but they aren't that comfortable. Even jeans are restricting when trying to sleep.
Yes security, I remember various movies where loved ones could see people of at the gate or stop them from flying because they wanted to declare their love. 💚
Why did you go to the lounge at B44 when your gate was B22? There is a lounge at B24, too.
I'll put it down to not amazing signage. That's useful to know though. Will keep an eye out next time 👁️⌚
out of curiosity, how much you paid on the website for the upgrade only.
So my upgrade price was just under 1000 euros. It could be considered quite steep but the difference between the products is huge.
It could also vary depending on how busy the cabin is. Thank you dynamic pricing 😕
@@liftoffandtravel Yes the difference from Economy to Business is for sure noticeable, where business is much better, especially on Long haul flights. I also paid 900 euros last month for an upgrade, Lufthansa LH506 from Frankfurt to Sao Paulo, on a 747-800.
@@IdlirXH nice route. Were you in Brasil for work or leisure?
@@liftoffandtravelduring the week for work, over the weekend for fun. I stayed 1 month, and then back directly from Rio to Fra. On an Airbus A340. Still in Business but this time the upgrade was 1100 euros.
@@IdlirXH oh cool 😎 Brasil 🇧🇷 means a lot to us so glad you got to experience it besides work.
Do you enjoy the food and caiparinha?