Tips for anyone trying to get the achievement on HARD. Caveat: I got the achievement in April, 2021. Perhaps when you are reading my message, any of the civs in the scenario may have undergone a vital change (buff, nerf or otherwise), which enables a different approach. 1. I don't advise going all in by building a CASTLE on blue's face with 3 villagers while tarkans shield them from harm. It's likely the castle won't go up (scorpions may pick off the vils) and even if you succeed, without Murder Holes the castle will shortly fall. 2. I don't advise building a castle at blue's base anytime. If you let blue boom, you may as well build your castle at your base at some point, and prepare a final attack once you defeat Teal and Green (shortly after blue attacks with a lot of military, so building a castle or two home is helpful). 3. Finally, don't try to weaken all enemies and let them live, especially blue. You will only lose units and blue will get it's castles up in no time. What I DO ADVISE is to try one of two methods. The first one involves booming like crazy, 3 TC, lots of farms to build up your military. Use your starting tarkans to take out green. Then attack teal before a 20 minute mark, create additional reinforcements (kill off many vils to make room for 70 cav + 6 trebuchets) and attack blue, focusing on their TCs, Castles and vils. Don't lose trebs, shield them with your cav. a) you may want to bring 3 vils to repair trebs -- blue has many trebs as well b) you may also want to select weak cav to lure some of blue's cataphracts from the north and run to RED seconds before the battle. I managed to defeat the Romans within 30 minutes, but the dialogue made me lose the achievement by a few seconds (Fs in chat :) The second tactic is from this VIDEO. Use a lot of micro (or pauses) to attack vils building military buildings. You don't need to kill them, just attack the vil once and run away from their military and strike from the other side. All the while, resist the need to build TCs. 8-10 stables, a blacksmith and a market to sell stone will suffice. This time, I managed to win within 13 minutes. Good luck :) Many thanks to @T-West for showing me the second method :)
An alternative, probably the intended and easier solution is this ( Rush > Boom > Siege instead of insane micro or for most people: 'pause'). ---------------------------------------------------------------- I. The Alan rush ---------------------------------------------------------------- Flag all your cav to Alans immediately. Build order: 3 vils on blacksmith first (and as soon as it drops, cav armor and +1/+1 in that order) 3 vils on stable next (to get the speed tech and queue knights asap) 1 vil to TC, 2 vils on one more stable and two archery ranges. Move all vils to TC when done and start on wood! When archery ranges go up, immediately queue cavarch as complement to your knights. While your first stable is around 100%, full knight queue and your tarkans should now land on the alan vil that always builds a castle slightly east of their TC (after encounter with wolf and the scout which you should both ignore at this point). Let your scout chase the vil and move the rest of your tarkans to its base. All cav to the TC, one tarkan south of TC and one north to check for vills building, two-three tarkans pick off the few military of the alans. Clear TC and vills and pop! Move Alans gone just under/on 3 minutes if done right. ---------------------------------------------------------------- II. The Visigoths Snipe ---------------------------------------------------------------- As soon as you see the Alan buildings autodestruct, move your army near the Visigoth base and look for castle builders (usually near the river absolute south or behind the TC, rarely north of its first TC). Harass the visigoths until 5m30-6m and snipe the TC and vills. While you're doing this, you're also booming and slowly moving into food from wood, so move three vills North near the shallows @ red ally to get to blue (Romans). Build 3 stables there and a castle. Start queueing knights and tarkans (use the tarkan at stables tech) and place them on the shallows. When they're done, move them to the stone pile (also have 3 vills on stone in your base) You should have the visigoths crushed in 7m-7m30. If you have cavarchers remaining at this point (you shouldn't have trained more than 12), use them to harass blue while you boom (aim for vills). They should be sacrificed to make space for more trebs/tarkan/paladin. ---------------------------------------------------------------- III. Boom into siege (if you save, this is your save point) ---------------------------------------------------------------- You now have approx 23 minutes to get a perfect boom, prep your army and siege blue base. You should be in imp no later than 20-21 minutes so you can start queueing 7-8 trebs and upgrade your knights / tarkan to paladin and elite tarkan in time. Command those three vills up north to evade blue and build a castle near the woodline @ northernmost corner (to prevent blue from building there in the future and for treb/tarkan queueing if needed). Your army should be practically ready at around 24-25 minutes and you should have popcap with at least 30 pally and tarkan in queue. Move all your trebs and a complement of 15 paladins + 5 tarkan to the westernmost opening of blue's base where blue will be mining gold. Don't attack yet and defend your trebs when you do. Move all your other paladins and tarkans (60/40%) to the easternmost TC (try to get under the wings) and snipe the TC, then let them kill off whatever aggro you have. If you time it right, red will be assisting you as well. After engaging in the TC snipe, they will pull aggro so you can move in your trebs from the left wing (quickly take care of blue mining camp there so the vills don't go building stuff) Snipe one castle to the right with your primary cav army and one or two to the left with your trebs to make a clearing for the bunkered TC. Snipe the TC as soon as you can. Spread out your cav and hunt for stray vills in the base. Note: While you're clearing blue's base, you'll get some losses but not that much. Use the reinforcements to hunt for vills below the wood line, they like to build south-southeast of their mining camp. And now, the 'Rome was Destroyed in One Day' achievement, lol. Pain in the ass, that one.
Dunno if 2020 was different, but in 2021 I believe you cannnot win with this strategy if you allow Blue to build castles and towers unopposed. Gotta harass Blue a bit as well, and that actually more and more reminds me of T-West's strategy. Of course I'm no Viper, I suck, but I'm quite OK with micro.
@@paulb7027 This is a writeup of the exact strategy I used for the achievement. Your red ally harasses blue a bit and the Goths are a pain to deal with if you let them boom. But yeah, changes to the game might have made this strategy obsolete. It's entirely possible.
@@Gunth0r Thank you for your reply. Do you remember how many castles Blue had when you reached him at 25'? In my case he had 3 castles and a LOT of cataphracts so destroying him within 5 mins was impossible :(
@@paulb7027 Yes, 3 castle that were built around his initial tc. That's why you need 7 trebs. With 7 trebs, you can easily snipe the castles from behind the closest woodlines (defend trebs with a small part of your army)
Después de facil 100 intentos, por fin obtuve el logro (con este, solo me restan 4). utilice una mecánica similar a la del video, con la diferencia de que deje a los Visigodos para el final, construi un castillo y un TC, avancé a Imperial y construi 4 lanzapiedras para derribar los castillos del verde mientras los abrumaba con mis caballeros ya mejorados y una pequeña pero muy importante ayuda de mi aliado ostrogodo. Thanks you TWest!!!
A tip I would like to add that really helped me out with getting this achievement. Pressing G stops whatever action a unit is currently doing, so as soon as you see enemy Vills ungarrisoning due to a building reaching low health group selecting a bunch of Knights then pressing G has them automatically target the nearest unit (vills > military unit > building I believe is the attack priority), rather than manually targetting a vill. This vid really helped me out. I tried a semi booming strat with a TC, Castle, Blacksmith and 8 or 9 Stables, but didn't work out because I couldn't put as much pressure and all my Knights died. Then I went with a combination of this strat and The Clever Fool's post where they only targeted vills and TC's, and got it in 19 mins despite my terrible micro.
@@VonFreklstein Doubt it. AoE 3 retains most of its original voice acting, with higher profile voice actors. They seem to have replaced Nolan North's lines, though, but that's likely because his dialogue had to be rewritten.
Gonna be honest, this one took me 2 tries when i did this. My first try i had a boom aproach which came in juuuust too late at 31 minute win. Then i had a more deathmatch approach and won it in 14 mins
Nice job as usual. We actually probably completed this one at the same time. My approach was not quite as refined; I only focused on disrupting Blue and then ran over Teal and Green, in sequence. I took around 28 minutes with a save, and ended with only 7 knights remaining. If you don't kill Green early, they will build 2 castles and train halberdiers; my solution was to bait their infantry with a scout. An important thing to note that wasn't quite as relevant in your case is that the AI will actually give up once they lose their TCs and villagers, regardless of the amount of military they've got.
Definitely. Another neat thing is that because Teal and Green don't build Universities, their castles actually won't have murder holes. I also saw some pretty big plays in your video that may have gone under the radar, too however. Denying the green blacksmith early was massive, as was denying a few of the blue towers for the extra garrisons. Are you doing the No Wonder on My Watch next? I've got that one in the pipeline as I type and am curious to see how you'll tackle it. Do you ever do these blind?
@@a_cleverfool I've done a few of these blind, mostly ones from the FE campaigns or the new campaigns that I haven't played before. The AoK and AoC achievements mostly follow the old speed running tricks, so I have a pretty good idea about how to tackle them ahead of time.
The tree line on the right of the map used to be pretty thick, but you could break through the tree line and have a ton of space, along with finding an ES symbol etched into the ground. Now the trees extend to the edge of the map, but it was nice when it was there in the original Conquerors campaign and forgotten empires
So, I finally did it on hard. I feel like the newest DLC made it even harder. My first try, I used my initial tarkans to take out green successfully, and make cav archers + tarkans + trebs with a castle close to cyan to take them out around the 20 minutes mark. Then I turned to blue.. and nope. The army they have is massive with lots of towers and 3 castles. So I gave up, and thought about how to deal with them. I think you're right, taking blue out before they can build up is the right way to go, and mass knights is the best way to do it. So what I did was send 5 tarkans on green (enough to kill them completely if you are very careful with the micro), and the rest on blue, just to keep them from building a castle. I used the scout to draw the army out to red base. And then... I've put the speed to the slowest setting, and I paused literally every 2s because I'm awful at multitasking micro. First 10 minutes are a nightmare, and you must be very careful to not let a castle go up, and to not loose units stupidly. I messed up a bit with that (some buildings got up, like a tower, a siege workshop.. and some tarkans died) but I still managed to hold on. For the eco, on my first 3 vils, 1 for a TC focused only on gold, 1 for a TC focused only on food, and 1 for 1 stable, then 1 blacksmith, then 5 stables. Pick up the cavalry techs, and from them produce knights non stop. I had to send 2 knights to green to finish them off but the rest all went to blue, and basically denied every building possible until there was enough of them to take down the TCs. From then I just built a castle with some vils near cyan (but looking back it wasn't really useful), sacrificed 2 knights just to draw the army away, and used the mass knights to destroy the TCs, and the castle. Took me 18 minutes total. (but IRL much.. much longer xD). It feels a bit scummy to play on pause, but I would never be able to do it at an higher speed, my actions per minutes are waaay too low for something like this. Still pretty proud to have managed to do it on second try.
I love your videos! Your tactics are on point and you actually read the scouting report and hints (since, you know, that's what they're there for, right T90Official and others who will remain anonymous). It's nice to watch someone who actually plays the game the way it should be played, especially since I don't have a puter that'll play DE. Please, keep up the good work.
I got It. Yeaaaah!!!!!! I realiced that earning the achievement makes a different final speech. The speaker says the same but greeting firstly in Germany.
Finally finished this on hard - Thanks to this guide , not even geting this achievement... I rushed the hardest AI north, but killin vills and dodging PALADINS with my 2+2 knights aint no joke
@T-West so I tried this Level a few times already, I even put the difficulty as low as possible and I still didn't manage to do it. Is there a way to cheese it and maybe get a mod involved or start with more resources or units?
How can you zoom that far out? Is the zooming tied to resolution? Im playing on 1920x1080 and I cannot zome out not even close to this far. Thank you, any suggestions are appreciated!
Yes, zooming is still tied to your desktop resolution, unfortunately. I have a 1440p monitor, but I use Nvidia Dynamic Super Resolution to increase my desktop resolution to 5120x2880 in order to zoom out like that. The zoom level also depends on whether or not you have Enhanced Graphics active. With them off, you can zoom out further.
Could you share your save? I tried several times, but I couldn't do it. They won't give up, so it takes to much time to hunt down the last remaining villagers.
This is still possible but damn it's hard. I rushed both green and blue with initial forces. Then focused entirely on knights to blue. Once I got blue down, teal fell easily. Green was hard but I managed to wipe out a lot of villages early. Good luck
Lo he intentado como 50 veces y no tuve resultado (lo mas cerca que estuve fueron 30:17, o sea a 18 segundos del logro, por lo cual ya me resignè). Con la nueva actualizaciòn, los romanos son incluso peores que los bizantinos, y en donde constuyen el primer castillo y entrenan centuriones, chau logro. Dejè a los visigodos para el final, por lo cual tenia que derrotarlos segundos y dejando a los alanos para lo ùltimo
Just done it, similar like you I made stables at first but only with two wills, one I've tasked with building a castle and once that is done research silver unique tech so I can train tarkans at stables as soon as that is done I stopped training knights and trained mass of tarkans.. Used remaining knights to jebait enemy troops and storm TCs and Castles with tarkans (with all TCs gone and castles once you kill the wills AI will just delete its buildings on its own and resign, done it in around 20 minutes only
Edit: oh, in the beginning, I use Nvidia Dynamic Super Resolution to change my resolution to 5120x2880. And I turned off the Enhanced graphics. During the actual gameplay, I'm using the maximum zoom with "Enhanced Graphics" at 1440p resolution. The maximum zoom level in DE depends on your screen resolution.
Now that the Rise of Rome DLC is out and all the "Rome" player's Byzantine units are replaced by OP Roman units, is it worth revisiting the achievement to see if it's still possible? Denying castles prevents them from getting centurions of course, but legionaries are tough!
@@T-West Thanks for responding! It doesn't require the DLC--all the Roman computer controlled units in the base game have been updated to be Roman instead of Byzantine now that the content exists :)
@@rhuadin Indeed, I tried this achievement today and it's harder than it used to be. Legionnaries (unique Militia upgrade for Romans; upgrade that replaces Two-handed Swordmen and Champion for this scenario) are tougher and hit harder than regular Militia upgrades. Centurions (unique Unit; Cavalry that replaces Cataphracts for this scenario) are more difficult to handle since they have an aura that provides increased attack speed for Militia-line units (YES, THEY BUFF LEGIONNARIES). And to top all of this, Romans have a unique Tech: 50% faster training for Centurions, Militia & Knights AND gives a Charge skill to Centurions and Legionnaries (next attack deals +5 damage on 20 secs cd). It's fucking insane. Scorpions benefit from Ballistics (which they also train but they are meh) and infantry receives double effect from Blacksmith armor. Overall, Romans are a tough end game Civ, and since they start in Imperial Age, they are particularly difficult to beat. I've tried rushing them first but they kill most of my army and then I can't beat the rest, my knights and tarkans can't do shit against such an elite army.
@@MaximilianoSegovia I've spent the last 30 min trying to do a decent start against them it's seriously impossible for an average player like me, they're just too op as a civilisation and they start with 2 TC and maybe 20 or 25 units
@@philippefry7482 So I did it on hard, it's possible, even for an average player (and when I say this I mean it, I'm probably way worse than average xD) but it's really hard and I needed to pause constantly to make sure I wasn't messing up. I think the only way to do it is to prevent Blue from ever building a base. Green is also the weakest in the beginning so it's a bit easier to deal with him with only a few units. And cyan is the weakest in the end so you can just overrun him.
I don't plan on revisiting the campaign achievements. Personally I'm not interested in the new civilizations, I don't think it would be fun for me to replay the campaigns with the changes. Ornlu will probably play through the scenarios when there are updates, I'd recommend checking to see if he has done it recently.
OMG! I've tried this several times now, on hard and slow speed and I've not been able to manage the armies properly. I can defeat blue and cyan, but there're not many knights left to fight green
at least ten tries until now, always ending in complete frustration. My best time so far was 34 minutes. Update: Barely managed the madness with about 5 seconds left
It is possible to do this by taking the opponents on one at a time: mass knights as quickly as possible -> attack the romans with your emtire army while continuing to spam knights. Take out the alans (cyan) next. By the time you reach green you will be met by a few castles but your army should still be large enough to deal with that. It has been a while since I hot the achievement, but I believe I was able to finish it within 14 minutes. Was quite satisfying to get after many failed attempts.
Yeah I don't think this one is possible on Hard now. I can kill both Green and Cyan in 10 minutes while reaching Imperial, but my economy is like complete trash at that point. And the first wave from Blue is around the 20-minute mark and that wave is so brutal that my initial army of around 80 knights and tarkans (no Imperial upgrades because I need the resources to boom) are completely wiped by that wave. Ended up having to play normally, and even that my paladin army got wiped 2 times later before I had to switch to an AI army composition (rams + cav archers + halbs + paladins). But after I breached their defense, they just stopped making anything.
Ignore Cyan. Focus on blue and green and overrrun cyan with the army instead of trying to overrun blue. If you're still stuck on that, I wrote my whole process in another comment, it's not pretty, but it worked xD
Wait, why do the Romans have so few enemies in your game? In my game, even sending my soldiers into the Romans Base at the start, when I arrive, there are already 15 enemy knights and my units are destroyed ...
Just from rushing them as fast as possible at the start and focusing on destroying the buildings. You can pause the game right at the start and use marco+polo to see how many units they start with. Not sure if there have been any changes to this mission from when I played it.
But I managed to obtain the Achievement with a slightly different method. Rather than attacking the three factions at the same time, I put a huge focus on the Romans. Once defeated after maybe 5~6 minutes, I pushed the other bases with my army by attacking Forums, Villagers, Barracks and enemy soldiers. So they ended up giving up by destroying their own castles.
@@dariodimarziasalvatore971 Husbandry and the Blacksmith upgrades for Knights are probably quite helpful, don't remember exactly how I played this one at the time.
@@T-West This info was so important. At first I focussed on denying the castles but with this I just ran through the base and killed villagers. Close game with 26:30
I killed cyan an green in like 10 minutes boomed like crazy for blue, even red came with trebs. Got some nice 60+ elite tarkans and a few trebs and lost it all to champions, elite cataphracts and PETARDS! Got one castle and 2 towers. Came back with a small army of 20-30 tarkans and a few more trebs and blue rebuild his castle and towers and was waiting with an even greater army fml
It took me like an hour to beat this on standard because blue just had infinite men it seemed no Matter what I did I had every counter but they just kept coming
I defeated Romans in 10 minutes, but by the time I cant even kill Alans because they already have castle standing. I can't even produce so many units in that short amount of time. EDIT: Ok. I managed to kill Alans too, but I'm left with 20 knights and Visigoths with castles and only 15 min to build up...
This strat does not work anymore. Romans are a lot faster in building everything, long swordmen were buffed a lot so are less weak to cavalry. Plus, alans immediately build a caste on the river. Maybe we shoul focus only on one (goths?) then alans alnd lastly romans?
Don't forget The Western Roman Empire was updated. Their civilization is no longer Byzantine, but Roman, a new, more powerful civ. I guess this achievement will be easier to obtain once Romans are nerfed or this scenario is re-tuned.
@@khacnhatminhminhle5075 You just press the Pause/Break hotkey. You can also a pause hotkey you can rebind in the hotkeys menu, by default it's F3. Works in all versions of the game.
@@T-West I tend to agree with that. Until I did the Bari campaign. That shit is cancer and broken. Had to restart a Bari campaign several times because it broke and couldn't possibly end it or didn't give me the soldiers the campaign should have given me. Fuck not saving and fuck Bari.
I've attempted this mission around 20 times so far and, still, I couldn't beat it. I'm playing it in August 2021, on Hard difficulty. I'm using the strategy presented in this video, but to no avail. I'm trying to micro, to harass both Blue and Green but they keep repelling me. Sorry, but the devs exaggerated with the level of difficulty, it's a fact brought up by many players. Even pro players find it difficult to beat this mission. How, then, is an average player supposed to beat this mission on Hard? This is not fair, imho. An average player has no chance of beating this game on Hard difficulty if they're not skilled enough. This means that part of the game experience is unavailable for some players. It's frustrating. Campaign missions shouldn't be more difficult than 1 v 1 games. It's in solo games that you're supposed to show skill. Campaings should teach you how to play and present a considerable level of difficulty. What I've experienced in this mission is telling me that some players have to concede with never being able to squeeze the full joy out of this game. Sad. I don't find it enjoyable and yet I've always loved AoE games.
I tried a couple of time again, this time focusing only on the Blue. I did everything the same way you did in your video and I wasn't even able to keep up with killing the massively recruited villagers, let alone snipe these who were building castles, barracks etc. Plus, when you reached blue base, they had much fewer soldiers. When I reach it, they outnumber my 10 Tarkans 2 or 3 times. How the fuck am I supposed to micro in such a battle? Not everyone is TheViper. Beating this mission on Hard is impossible for some players. The imbalance in this mission is clear as the day. Besides, when I look at the way the AI behaves in your video, I noticed that, for example, Green stopped defending the base. So, either the AI got even more muscled up with time or I don't know what happened. If the devs think that making the game impossible to beat in certain missions will attract the attention of more players, then they're wrong. This game used to be much easier and enjoyable. It's a pity that I won't be able to tick every mission as beaten on Hard, but this is the way it has to be. So fucking sad.
I believe since the time this vid was recorded, the devs added more starting units to the opponents for Hard difficulty in most of the campaigns. E.g. in Barbarossa's "Pope and Antipope", on Standard you can just travel with your monks and convert the Cathedral right away, while on Hard you won't be able to get even close to the goal :) But I see no problem with that. If you want this game to be easy, just play on low level -- it indeed gives you an experience of relaxed playing. Otherwise, Hard wasn't much difference with Standard, and as the result all the campaigns were boring for experienced players. Nowadays it is more balanced -- if you want it to be challenging, you set higher level of difficulty. ps. I started playing campaigns in DE around Nov 2020, and when finished around 60% on Standard, I decided to play the rest on Hard, and finally ended up re-doing the WHOLE single player on Hard :)
Tried this one several times, I don't have that insane apm/micro... I just can't control two armies in two different locations, and I'm trying on standard. I killed green and then teal quite easily with initial tarkans + kns, and then I try to rush imp and kill blue last, but I still can only finish him off by around 35 minutes, by the time I have enough army blue already has 3 castles up and lots of catas and scorps and also lots of trebs of his own. THis is really hard
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Tips for anyone trying to get the achievement on HARD.
Caveat: I got the achievement in April, 2021. Perhaps when you are reading my message, any of the civs in the scenario may have undergone a vital change (buff, nerf or otherwise), which enables a different approach.
1. I don't advise going all in by building a CASTLE on blue's face with 3 villagers while tarkans shield them from harm. It's likely the castle won't go up (scorpions may pick off the vils) and even if you succeed, without Murder Holes the castle will shortly fall.
2. I don't advise building a castle at blue's base anytime. If you let blue boom, you may as well build your castle at your base at some point, and prepare a final attack once you defeat Teal and Green (shortly after blue attacks with a lot of military, so building a castle or two home is helpful).
3. Finally, don't try to weaken all enemies and let them live, especially blue. You will only lose units and blue will get it's castles up in no time.
What I DO ADVISE is to try one of two methods.
The first one involves booming like crazy, 3 TC, lots of farms to build up your military. Use your starting tarkans to take out green. Then attack teal before a 20 minute mark, create additional reinforcements (kill off many vils to make room for 70 cav + 6 trebuchets) and attack blue, focusing on their TCs, Castles and vils. Don't lose trebs, shield them with your cav.
a) you may want to bring 3 vils to repair trebs -- blue has many trebs as well
b) you may also want to select weak cav to lure some of blue's cataphracts from the north and run to RED seconds before the battle.
I managed to defeat the Romans within 30 minutes, but the dialogue made me lose the achievement by a few seconds (Fs in chat :)
The second tactic is from this VIDEO. Use a lot of micro (or pauses) to attack vils building military buildings. You don't need to kill them, just attack the vil once and run away from their military and strike from the other side. All the while, resist the need to build TCs. 8-10 stables, a blacksmith and a market to sell stone will suffice.
This time, I managed to win within 13 minutes.
Good luck :)
Many thanks to @T-West for showing me the second method :)
An alternative, probably the intended and easier solution is this ( Rush > Boom > Siege instead of insane micro or for most people: 'pause').
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I. The Alan rush
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Flag all your cav to Alans immediately.
Build order:
3 vils on blacksmith first (and as soon as it drops, cav armor and +1/+1 in that order)
3 vils on stable next (to get the speed tech and queue knights asap)
1 vil to TC, 2 vils on one more stable and two archery ranges. Move all vils to TC when done and start on wood!
When archery ranges go up, immediately queue cavarch as complement to your knights.
While your first stable is around 100%, full knight queue and your tarkans should now land on the alan vil that always builds a castle slightly east of their TC (after encounter with wolf and the scout which you should both ignore at this point). Let your scout chase the vil and move the rest of your tarkans to its base. All cav to the TC, one tarkan south of TC and one north to check for vills building, two-three tarkans pick off the few military of the alans. Clear TC and vills and pop!
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Alans gone just under/on 3 minutes if done right.
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II. The Visigoths Snipe
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As soon as you see the Alan buildings autodestruct, move your army near the Visigoth base and look for castle builders (usually near the river absolute south or behind the TC, rarely north of its first TC). Harass the visigoths until 5m30-6m and snipe the TC and vills.
While you're doing this, you're also booming and slowly moving into food from wood, so move three vills North near the shallows @ red ally to get to blue (Romans). Build 3 stables there and a castle. Start queueing knights and tarkans (use the tarkan at stables tech) and place them on the shallows. When they're done, move them to the stone pile (also have 3 vills on stone in your base)
You should have the visigoths crushed in 7m-7m30. If you have cavarchers remaining at this point (you shouldn't have trained more than 12), use them to harass blue while you boom (aim for vills). They should be sacrificed to make space for more trebs/tarkan/paladin.
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III. Boom into siege (if you save, this is your save point)
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You now have approx 23 minutes to get a perfect boom, prep your army and siege blue base.
You should be in imp no later than 20-21 minutes so you can start queueing 7-8 trebs and upgrade your knights / tarkan to paladin and elite tarkan in time.
Command those three vills up north to evade blue and build a castle near the woodline @ northernmost corner (to prevent blue from building there in the future and for treb/tarkan queueing if needed).
Your army should be practically ready at around 24-25 minutes and you should have popcap with at least 30 pally and tarkan in queue.
Move all your trebs and a complement of 15 paladins + 5 tarkan to the westernmost opening of blue's base where blue will be mining gold. Don't attack yet and defend your trebs when you do.
Move all your other paladins and tarkans (60/40%) to the easternmost TC (try to get under the wings) and snipe the TC, then let them kill off whatever aggro you have.
If you time it right, red will be assisting you as well.
After engaging in the TC snipe, they will pull aggro so you can move in your trebs from the left wing (quickly take care of blue mining camp there so the vills don't go building stuff)
Snipe one castle to the right with your primary cav army and one or two to the left with your trebs to make a clearing for the bunkered TC. Snipe the TC as soon as you can.
Spread out your cav and hunt for stray vills in the base.
Note: While you're clearing blue's base, you'll get some losses but not that much. Use the reinforcements to hunt for vills below the wood line, they like to build south-southeast of their mining camp.
And now, the 'Rome was Destroyed in One Day' achievement, lol. Pain in the ass, that one.
"if you save, this is your save point" -- my fav part :D
Dunno if 2020 was different, but in 2021 I believe you cannnot win with this strategy if you allow Blue to build castles and towers unopposed.
Gotta harass Blue a bit as well, and that actually more and more reminds me of T-West's strategy.
Of course I'm no Viper, I suck, but I'm quite OK with micro.
@@paulb7027 This is a writeup of the exact strategy I used for the achievement. Your red ally harasses blue a bit and the Goths are a pain to deal with if you let them boom. But yeah, changes to the game might have made this strategy obsolete. It's entirely possible.
@@Gunth0r Thank you for your reply. Do you remember how many castles Blue had when you reached him at 25'?
In my case he had 3 castles and a LOT of cataphracts so destroying him within 5 mins was impossible :(
@@paulb7027 Yes, 3 castle that were built around his initial tc. That's why you need 7 trebs. With 7 trebs, you can easily snipe the castles from behind the closest woodlines (defend trebs with a small part of your army)
You're my go-to guy for the achievements keep up the good work! :D
This one the AI ally is actually useful. You can attack a Roman building with a scout, it will attratch the army and you can run it in to red's town.
Yeah the ai is pretty good and will help alot
Después de facil 100 intentos, por fin obtuve el logro (con este, solo me restan 4). utilice una mecánica similar a la del video, con la diferencia de que deje a los Visigodos para el final, construi un castillo y un TC, avancé a Imperial y construi 4 lanzapiedras para derribar los castillos del verde mientras los abrumaba con mis caballeros ya mejorados y una pequeña pero muy importante ayuda de mi aliado ostrogodo. Thanks you TWest!!!
A tip I would like to add that really helped me out with getting this achievement. Pressing G stops whatever action a unit is currently doing, so as soon as you see enemy Vills ungarrisoning due to a building reaching low health group selecting a bunch of Knights then pressing G has them automatically target the nearest unit (vills > military unit > building I believe is the attack priority), rather than manually targetting a vill.
This vid really helped me out. I tried a semi booming strat with a TC, Castle, Blacksmith and 8 or 9 Stables, but didn't work out because I couldn't put as much pressure and all my Knights died. Then I went with a combination of this strat and The Clever Fool's post where they only targeted vills and TC's, and got it in 19 mins despite my terrible micro.
The "He had not" in the outro really lacked the impact the original had.
Really disappointing, some of the new voice acting is good. Not this guy though.
tbh id take the cheesy accents for the sole fact their delivery tends to be way better.
I don´t get why they redid the voice acting anyway. Probably something to do with royalties.
@@VonFreklstein Doubt it. AoE 3 retains most of its original voice acting, with higher profile voice actors. They seem to have replaced Nolan North's lines, though, but that's likely because his dialogue had to be rewritten.
I KNOWWWWWWWW. why remake all the voice acting if you are just gonna make them worse??
Gonna be honest, this one took me 2 tries when i did this. My first try i had a boom aproach which came in juuuust too late at 31 minute win. Then i had a more deathmatch approach and won it in 14 mins
When you struggle with an Attila Mission:
"PM me Hun!"
Or DM me Hun :)
Nice job as usual. We actually probably completed this one at the same time. My approach was not quite as refined; I only focused on disrupting Blue and then ran over Teal and Green, in sequence. I took around 28 minutes with a save, and ended with only 7 knights remaining. If you don't kill Green early, they will build 2 castles and train halberdiers; my solution was to bait their infantry with a scout. An important thing to note that wasn't quite as relevant in your case is that the AI will actually give up once they lose their TCs and villagers, regardless of the amount of military they've got.
Knowing the rules for when the AI resigns can definitely help with some scenarios :)
Definitely. Another neat thing is that because Teal and Green don't build Universities, their castles actually won't have murder holes. I also saw some pretty big plays in your video that may have gone under the radar, too however. Denying the green blacksmith early was massive, as was denying a few of the blue towers for the extra garrisons.
Are you doing the No Wonder on My Watch next? I've got that one in the pipeline as I type and am curious to see how you'll tackle it. Do you ever do these blind?
@@a_cleverfool I've done a few of these blind, mostly ones from the FE campaigns or the new campaigns that I haven't played before. The AoK and AoC achievements mostly follow the old speed running tricks, so I have a pretty good idea about how to tackle them ahead of time.
The tree line on the right of the map used to be pretty thick, but you could break through the tree line and have a ton of space, along with finding an ES symbol etched into the ground. Now the trees extend to the edge of the map, but it was nice when it was there in the original Conquerors campaign and forgotten empires
So, I finally did it on hard. I feel like the newest DLC made it even harder. My first try, I used my initial tarkans to take out green successfully, and make cav archers + tarkans + trebs with a castle close to cyan to take them out around the 20 minutes mark. Then I turned to blue.. and nope. The army they have is massive with lots of towers and 3 castles. So I gave up, and thought about how to deal with them. I think you're right, taking blue out before they can build up is the right way to go, and mass knights is the best way to do it.
So what I did was send 5 tarkans on green (enough to kill them completely if you are very careful with the micro), and the rest on blue, just to keep them from building a castle. I used the scout to draw the army out to red base. And then... I've put the speed to the slowest setting, and I paused literally every 2s because I'm awful at multitasking micro. First 10 minutes are a nightmare, and you must be very careful to not let a castle go up, and to not loose units stupidly. I messed up a bit with that (some buildings got up, like a tower, a siege workshop.. and some tarkans died) but I still managed to hold on. For the eco, on my first 3 vils, 1 for a TC focused only on gold, 1 for a TC focused only on food, and 1 for 1 stable, then 1 blacksmith, then 5 stables. Pick up the cavalry techs, and from them produce knights non stop.
I had to send 2 knights to green to finish them off but the rest all went to blue, and basically denied every building possible until there was enough of them to take down the TCs. From then I just built a castle with some vils near cyan (but looking back it wasn't really useful), sacrificed 2 knights just to draw the army away, and used the mass knights to destroy the TCs, and the castle. Took me 18 minutes total. (but IRL much.. much longer xD). It feels a bit scummy to play on pause, but I would never be able to do it at an higher speed, my actions per minutes are waaay too low for something like this. Still pretty proud to have managed to do it on second try.
I love your videos! Your tactics are on point and you actually read the scouting report and hints (since, you know, that's what they're there for, right T90Official and others who will remain anonymous). It's nice to watch someone who actually plays the game the way it should be played, especially since I don't have a puter that'll play DE. Please, keep up the good work.
I got It. Yeaaaah!!!!!!
I realiced that earning the achievement makes a different final speech. The speaker says the same but greeting firstly in Germany.
Finally finished this on hard - Thanks to this guide , not even geting this achievement... I rushed the hardest AI north, but killin vills and dodging PALADINS with my 2+2 knights aint no joke
@T-West so I tried this Level a few times already, I even put the difficulty as low as possible and I still didn't manage to do it. Is there a way to cheese it and maybe get a mod involved or start with more resources or units?
You can try setting the speed down to slow speed and using pauses and saves. You can issue orders while the game is paused in single player.
@@T-West Thank you, I will try it. Hopefully I will be successful. Didn't know I could issue orders while pausing
@@T-West Thank you, I finally managed to do it 😍
I love your content. Keep making content the noob like me couldn't finish the challenge 🤣
Got it! Thank you. Rushed the green with starting units, that was enough, the rest I destroyed the old fashion way with 23 seconds to spare.
wow I love how you flooded them with cavalry like what Huns should do🤣
That's attila's way
How can you zoom that far out? Is the zooming tied to resolution? Im playing on 1920x1080 and I cannot zome out not even close to this far. Thank you, any suggestions are appreciated!
Yes, zooming is still tied to your desktop resolution, unfortunately. I have a 1440p monitor, but I use Nvidia Dynamic Super Resolution to increase my desktop resolution to 5120x2880 in order to zoom out like that. The zoom level also depends on whether or not you have Enhanced Graphics active. With them off, you can zoom out further.
Thank you very much for your time to replying to this. I'll try this Nvidia program you've suggested! Have a good one!
Could you share your save? I tried several times, but I couldn't do it. They won't give up, so it takes to much time to hunt down the last remaining villagers.
I don't have a save game for this, I did it single-segment.
Wow, what a great strategist.
This is still possible but damn it's hard.
I rushed both green and blue with initial forces. Then focused entirely on knights to blue.
Once I got blue down, teal fell easily. Green was hard but I managed to wipe out a lot of villages early.
Good luck
This achievement makes me and the pause button a BFF
Lo he intentado como 50 veces y no tuve resultado (lo mas cerca que estuve fueron 30:17, o sea a 18 segundos del logro, por lo cual ya me resignè). Con la nueva actualizaciòn, los romanos son incluso peores que los bizantinos, y en donde constuyen el primer castillo y entrenan centuriones, chau logro. Dejè a los visigodos para el final, por lo cual tenia que derrotarlos segundos y dejando a los alanos para lo ùltimo
Just done it, similar like you I made stables at first but only with two wills, one I've tasked with building a castle and once that is done research silver unique tech so I can train tarkans at stables as soon as that is done I stopped training knights and trained mass of tarkans.. Used remaining knights to jebait enemy troops and storm TCs and Castles with tarkans (with all TCs gone and castles once you kill the wills AI will just delete its buildings on its own and resign, done it in around 20 minutes only
this is very hard to do!
How are you able to zoom out this far?
Edit: oh, in the beginning, I use Nvidia Dynamic Super Resolution to change my resolution to 5120x2880. And I turned off the Enhanced graphics.
During the actual gameplay, I'm using the maximum zoom with "Enhanced Graphics" at 1440p resolution. The maximum zoom level in DE depends on your screen resolution.
Having to alternate between blue and green is the worst part. Too fast!
Excellent!! "Debo intentarlo"
Now that the Rise of Rome DLC is out and all the "Rome" player's Byzantine units are replaced by OP Roman units, is it worth revisiting the achievement to see if it's still possible? Denying castles prevents them from getting centurions of course, but legionaries are tough!
Oh, I don't have the DLC.
@@T-West Thanks for responding! It doesn't require the DLC--all the Roman computer controlled units in the base game have been updated to be Roman instead of Byzantine now that the content exists :)
@@rhuadin Indeed, I tried this achievement today and it's harder than it used to be. Legionnaries (unique Militia upgrade for Romans; upgrade that replaces Two-handed Swordmen and Champion for this scenario) are tougher and hit harder than regular Militia upgrades. Centurions (unique Unit; Cavalry that replaces Cataphracts for this scenario) are more difficult to handle since they have an aura that provides increased attack speed for Militia-line units (YES, THEY BUFF LEGIONNARIES).
And to top all of this, Romans have a unique Tech: 50% faster training for Centurions, Militia & Knights AND gives a Charge skill to Centurions and Legionnaries (next attack deals +5 damage on 20 secs cd).
It's fucking insane.
Scorpions benefit from Ballistics (which they also train but they are meh) and infantry receives double effect from Blacksmith armor.
Overall, Romans are a tough end game Civ, and since they start in Imperial Age, they are particularly difficult to beat. I've tried rushing them first but they kill most of my army and then I can't beat the rest, my knights and tarkans can't do shit against such an elite army.
@@MaximilianoSegovia I've spent the last 30 min trying to do a decent start against them it's seriously impossible for an average player like me, they're just too op as a civilisation and they start with 2 TC and maybe 20 or 25 units
@@philippefry7482 So I did it on hard, it's possible, even for an average player (and when I say this I mean it, I'm probably way worse than average xD) but it's really hard and I needed to pause constantly to make sure I wasn't messing up. I think the only way to do it is to prevent Blue from ever building a base. Green is also the weakest in the beginning so it's a bit easier to deal with him with only a few units. And cyan is the weakest in the end so you can just overrun him.
Insane multitasking
Could you make an updated version for this with the new Romans civilization instead of the Byzantine one? I feel like it's much harder now.
I don't plan on revisiting the campaign achievements. Personally I'm not interested in the new civilizations, I don't think it would be fun for me to replay the campaigns with the changes. Ornlu will probably play through the scenarios when there are updates, I'd recommend checking to see if he has done it recently.
@@T-West Fair enough, thanks
can u imagine the generals and leaders of there time...if only they could see how the fights done nowadays they would have triumphed!
OMG! I've tried this several times now, on hard and slow speed and I've not been able to manage the armies properly. I can defeat blue and cyan, but there're not many knights left to fight green
The pacifist guy wakes up and chooses violence
"very thick chum"
Good job.
I never understood what the "Trade Workshop" building in the Frank location really did :/
It doesn't do anything. The building was for a concept that Ensemble cut during development. Now it's just for scenery.
@@T-West You've ended an 18 year old question in my mind :')
at least ten tries until now, always ending in complete frustration. My best time so far was 34 minutes.
Update: Barely managed the madness with about 5 seconds left
literally impossible to do now, romans have a castle up before you get there (directly moved there with pausing at 0:00)
man, i tried it in standard and it's sick, as u are showing, you have to be in every side of the map
It is possible to do this by taking the opponents on one at a time: mass knights as quickly as possible -> attack the romans with your emtire army while continuing to spam knights. Take out the alans (cyan) next. By the time you reach green you will be met by a few castles but your army should still be large enough to deal with that. It has been a while since I hot the achievement, but I believe I was able to finish it within 14 minutes. Was quite satisfying to get after many failed attempts.
Yeah I don't think this one is possible on Hard now. I can kill both Green and Cyan in 10 minutes while reaching Imperial, but my economy is like complete trash at that point. And the first wave from Blue is around the 20-minute mark and that wave is so brutal that my initial army of around 80 knights and tarkans (no Imperial upgrades because I need the resources to boom) are completely wiped by that wave.
Ended up having to play normally, and even that my paladin army got wiped 2 times later before I had to switch to an AI army composition (rams + cav archers + halbs + paladins). But after I breached their defense, they just stopped making anything.
Ignore Cyan. Focus on blue and green and overrrun cyan with the army instead of trying to overrun blue.
If you're still stuck on that, I wrote my whole process in another comment, it's not pretty, but it worked xD
How do you zoom out that far?
The zoom level depends on the screen resolution. I set my resolution to 5220x2880.
@@T-West thank you, honored you answered me yourself
Wait, why do the Romans have so few enemies in your game? In my game, even sending my soldiers into the Romans Base at the start, when I arrive, there are already 15 enemy knights and my units are destroyed ...
Just from rushing them as fast as possible at the start and focusing on destroying the buildings. You can pause the game right at the start and use marco+polo to see how many units they start with. Not sure if there have been any changes to this mission from when I played it.
But I managed to obtain the Achievement with a slightly different method. Rather than attacking the three factions at the same time, I put a huge focus on the Romans. Once defeated after maybe 5~6 minutes, I pushed the other bases with my army by attacking Forums, Villagers, Barracks and enemy soldiers. So they ended up giving up by destroying their own castles.
A very good tipp is Attacking with your Start scout than run with him to Red Base Blues Army will follow him s8 you can Raid hin
so... no eco upgrades, to blacksmith upgrades, no extra vills just spam and control basic knights?
Pretty much, yeah. Focus on killing Villagers: the AI resignation condition is when they have fewer than 4 Villagers.
@@T-West did you upgraded the knights or not even that please?
@@dariodimarziasalvatore971 Husbandry and the Blacksmith upgrades for Knights are probably quite helpful, don't remember exactly how I played this one at the time.
@@T-West This info was so important. At first I focussed on denying the castles but with this I just ran through the base and killed villagers. Close game with 26:30
I killed cyan an green in like 10 minutes
boomed like crazy for blue, even red came with trebs. Got some nice 60+ elite tarkans and a few trebs and lost it all to champions, elite cataphracts and PETARDS! Got one castle and 2 towers.
Came back with a small army of 20-30 tarkans and a few more trebs and blue rebuild his castle and towers and was waiting with an even greater army fml
It took me like an hour to beat this on standard because blue just had infinite men it seemed no Matter what I did I had every counter but they just kept coming
@@90kevin20 cav archers, lots, then, put them on a hill, micro; macro
Brlliant!
My record achieved today: 11:16 when the last player resign. 11:29 victory screen.
I defeated Romans in 10 minutes, but by the time I cant even kill Alans because they already have castle standing. I can't even produce so many units in that short amount of time.
EDIT: Ok. I managed to kill Alans too, but I'm left with 20 knights and Visigoths with castles and only 15 min to build up...
This strat does not work anymore. Romans are a lot faster in building everything, long swordmen were buffed a lot so are less weak to cavalry. Plus, alans immediately build a caste on the river. Maybe we shoul focus only on one (goths?) then alans alnd lastly romans?
Don't forget The Western Roman Empire was updated. Their civilization is no longer Byzantine, but Roman, a new, more powerful civ. I guess this achievement will be easier to obtain once Romans are nerfed or this scenario is re-tuned.
Was a sickness, but this IS the strategy. Achieved at 24:39
You should maybe utilize the pause bottom with these scenario challenge.
The point of these is to be challenged; I prefer not to use pauses, saves, slow speed, or standard difficulty when doing them. :)
Okay, it's just that to me pause seems to be it should be fair game against AI.
@@khacnhatminhminhle5075 You just press the Pause/Break hotkey. You can also a pause hotkey you can rebind in the hotkeys menu, by default it's F3. Works in all versions of the game.
@@T-West I tend to agree with that. Until I did the Bari campaign. That shit is cancer and broken. Had to restart a Bari campaign several times because it broke and couldn't possibly end it or didn't give me the soldiers the campaign should have given me. Fuck not saving and fuck Bari.
@@TheLastSoundNL did u played Alaric? this one is impossible without a good save.
Nice job
I want to learn from you master
Ostrogoths are in the Imperial Age? Wow.
They still don't do a whole lot to help. All they send is a handful of cavaliers and champions to fight.
@@LordMalice6d9 , they do send Petards now, if lucky enough, they can destroy castles or TCs with ease.
Nice game play
I've attempted this mission around 20 times so far and, still, I couldn't beat it. I'm playing it in August 2021, on Hard difficulty. I'm using the strategy presented in this video, but to no avail. I'm trying to micro, to harass both Blue and Green but they keep repelling me. Sorry, but the devs exaggerated with the level of difficulty, it's a fact brought up by many players. Even pro players find it difficult to beat this mission. How, then, is an average player supposed to beat this mission on Hard? This is not fair, imho. An average player has no chance of beating this game on Hard difficulty if they're not skilled enough. This means that part of the game experience is unavailable for some players. It's frustrating.
Campaign missions shouldn't be more difficult than 1 v 1 games. It's in solo games that you're supposed to show skill. Campaings should teach you how to play and present a considerable level of difficulty. What I've experienced in this mission is telling me that some players have to concede with never being able to squeeze the full joy out of this game. Sad.
I don't find it enjoyable and yet I've always loved AoE games.
I tried a couple of time again, this time focusing only on the Blue. I did everything the same way you did in your video and I wasn't even able to keep up with killing the massively recruited villagers, let alone snipe these who were building castles, barracks etc. Plus, when you reached blue base, they had much fewer soldiers. When I reach it, they outnumber my 10 Tarkans 2 or 3 times. How the fuck am I supposed to micro in such a battle? Not everyone is TheViper. Beating this mission on Hard is impossible for some players. The imbalance in this mission is clear as the day.
Besides, when I look at the way the AI behaves in your video, I noticed that, for example, Green stopped defending the base. So, either the AI got even more muscled up with time or I don't know what happened. If the devs think that making the game impossible to beat in certain missions will attract the attention of more players, then they're wrong. This game used to be much easier and enjoyable. It's a pity that I won't be able to tick every mission as beaten on Hard, but this is the way it has to be. So fucking sad.
I believe since the time this vid was recorded, the devs added more starting units to the opponents for Hard difficulty in most of the campaigns. E.g. in Barbarossa's "Pope and Antipope", on Standard you can just travel with your monks and convert the Cathedral right away, while on Hard you won't be able to get even close to the goal :)
But I see no problem with that. If you want this game to be easy, just play on low level -- it indeed gives you an experience of relaxed playing. Otherwise, Hard wasn't much difference with Standard, and as the result all the campaigns were boring for experienced players. Nowadays it is more balanced -- if you want it to be challenging, you set higher level of difficulty.
ps. I started playing campaigns in DE around Nov 2020, and when finished around 60% on Standard, I decided to play the rest on Hard, and finally ended up re-doing the WHOLE single player on Hard :)
Tried this one several times, I don't have that insane apm/micro... I just can't control two armies in two different locations, and I'm trying on standard. I killed green and then teal quite easily with initial tarkans + kns, and then I try to rush imp and kill blue last, but I still can only finish him off by around 35 minutes, by the time I have enough army blue already has 3 castles up and lots of catas and scorps and also lots of trebs of his own. THis is really hard
You can always try turning the game speed down to slow and using a few pauses and saves, if that helps.
@@T-West Finally got it, had to slow down game speed and pause a few times. Almost cheating but I got it 11. Thanks.
No way. No matter how soon I try to rush them, they've already got an army on me and just keep crushing the reinforcements :C I give up
Keep trying. Save when you do a good move
If you're a noob like me just rush blue with 100 knights, then light blue, then green. Beat it in 24 minutes.
Please, Made th Attila Campaign of pacifism LOL
Sup wie geht's hab gehört es sollte echt rocken
Thx i did in 18:53 min un the 2nd try
Nice! :)
i did hardly on normal AI
Close enough is good enough :)