2021 Commencal Clash - Things to Consider
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- MTB trips are amazing. Riding brand new bikes on trips is even better. After a few month wait, I got my Commencal Clash Essential and rode some of the best bike parks in the United States. Here's the good, the bad, and things you should consider for this Free Ride machine! Tell us your thoughts and let us know where to ride next in the comments below!
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this bike is actually amazing. i watched this video before buying the bike and i’m so happy i ended up picking the clash. So much fun in the bike park but it still climbs good enough for enduro and trail rides!
Agreed! Solid bike overall. However I feel it’s not ideal for trail rides, a bit too heavy / slow rolling for mellow terrain. Best when pointed down steeper / rowdier terrain (or flow trails at the bike park)
I can't decide whether this bike would be worth it for me. I usually ride trails where a 140-150 mil trail bile would be perfect, but I take about 5 trips a year to bike parks where this bike would kill. Any advice?
If you can only have one bike and your local trails aren’t similar to black diamond bike park trails, I would not recommend this one. I’d stick with a bike in the 140-150 range and one that is a bit better all rounder. This bike is only good at going downhill. And if the trail isn’t full of steep roots, drops, and rocks… the clash is quite boring to ride and takes a lot of extra effort to pedal it around. It can be pedaled uphill, but it’s slow going and hard on the legs - even when you’re already a fit/strong rider. The bike is designed well, but it’s simply heavy and full of suspension travel, because it was designed to ride the hardest tracks possible
@@GlobalTrailGuide Thanks for the advice and the high quality content!
@@GlobalTrailGuide I have to disagree with your comment, my clash is my all rounder does everything really well, it rides like a regular bike and does it all really well
Happy to see you back in your hometrails in Italy. I like your new bike (even if I listen to the music in the intro, so sad, I thought that It has been stoled by thieves the day after you purchased It😂). I don't know if you can fit a 29 inch in the front and let a 27.5 in the back like Fantic and KTM, but It could be an idea to have the best of both world. About reaching 1000 subs, of course you deserve it, but you should celebrate the event doing a manual completely naked🤣. Just remember to add some blur in the 'hot spots' during editing...
😂 fortunately not stolen - at least not yet! Music was a bit too dramatic for the positive vibes - got it! Haha.
And yes! I mentioned that I plan to try converting this to a 29 up front, at least to try it and see how it feels. I already have all the parts I need on my ebike so it’s a straight forward swap.
And the idea of looping out on pavement without any clothes on is terrifying… but with the heat we’ve been experiencing maybe I’ll have to consider 🥵
Very comprehensive review. I have a 2019 model. Can I ask your go-to rear shock set up? thanks!
Thank you! Generally, I follow manufacturers recommendation and then adjust accordingly from there. And thanks for asking, it inspired me to elaborate a bit more on shock setup in my latest video review featuring my Clash
UPGRADE: Marzocchi Bomber Z1 Coil Fork on my Commencal Clash Mullet
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Curious where you stand on 29 v 275 for your park riding? On the fence with a meta or clash (or torque) and leaning toward 275 due to how much I plan to be downhill/park focused
To me, the benefit of 29er roll over can’t be beat. It’s just so much smoother and faster through chunky stuff. And to me, jumping isn’t deterred that much.
I’m on a Torque 29 now, you can find those vids on my channel as well.
I did enjoy my clash as a mullet and loved cornering on it, so I wouldn’t mind trying another mullet (like the meta sx) for comparison. However I could still feel the smaller rear wheel getting hung up more on roots / rocks
Great review, I've had mine for a month or so now. I had the same issue re leaking air out of the box. I fitted muc off valves and Orange sealant. I had to run the sealant around the tyres for a few revolutions and (touch wood) it seems to have held out so far but I'll definitely keep an eye out.
So glad yours is scratched too. I nearly wept after doing the same on my second ride 😅
Frame protection has been ordered!
Scratches happen, it’s a bike after all, but man it hurts when they’re so beautiful 😅
that is absolutely the best intro scene ever.....
Thank you! But my dude... we've got some other solid intros too! One I've made, and some my friend Mike has helped me with. I'll link a couple below in case you haven't seen them
Canyon Ebike reveal - ua-cam.com/video/sEiWxmTLEZY/v-deo.html
Tecla DH - ua-cam.com/video/5OgHqyR9Hxc/v-deo.html
One Year Anniversary of Global Trail Guide - ua-cam.com/video/p3euAD5u3rw/v-deo.html
My buddy has the same bike with the same tire/rim issue losing air. Also has something wrong with his Formula hub which Commencal was quick to remedy (great customer service btw). He's a newer rider so I told him it's the rim tape. I did the fix and showed him how to do it, and it helped but didn't completely solve the problem. I'm convinced it's the 532 cause we swapped tires and had the same issue. Also put Cushcore valve stems on and that helped slightly.
He's getting EX511 w DT 350s so hopefully he'll have better luck with them.
Appreciate you sharing your experience! For additional follow up on this issue - I immediately took the tubes out and put rimpact, rimpact valves, and sealant in and instantly had issues with losing air, even through the spoke nipples. So then I replaced the factory rim tape (tubeless ready they say), and I used Gorilla Tape as I always have without issue. As you mentioned, it slowed the leaking, but I still couldn’t get through a single ride without losing air… but it’s also super intermittent, sometimes it loses air within an hour and other times it holds for a week 🤷♂️ I quickly wore out the stock dissector, I put a new rear dhr II on and instantly the problem went away. My stock 27.5 front still leaks intermittently with the stock tire. So it’s left me wondering if it’s an issue with the Maxxis white logo tires and 532 rim. My new yellow logo has been perfect. But I’m just guessing
My 2021 clash should be here early July! Can’t wait!
Heck yeah!! It’ll be here before you know it 🤘🏼 I ordered mine in March and had to wait until May, so I understand the anticipation!
Hello, I recently got my Clash Essential (although 2022 but shouldn't be any different) and as it is my first Fox damper I could use an opinion on the setup.
The bike came with no spacers in the damper, and when setting the air pressure so that I would not bottom out violently on my local trails I was at 15% or so sag, compared to the suggested 30% and the bike was of course feeling harsh in the beginning of the travel. So I installed 3 spacers and set about an 25% sag plus set the flip chip to the supportive, and it seems to work okay but I am still bottoming out in the biggest of features (which are not huge, I am not a pro but I like to load the bike pretty heavy while riding) and in the end of the stroke the ramp-up is really noticeable because of the spacers, and I feel there is not so much middle support either.
Any opinions of the preferred setup? You seem to ride fast and I would appreciate sharing the suspension settings you have found on the time you have spent on the bike, maybe I have something weird going on in my setup. Maybe I should just ditch one token and have the sag a bit lower and deal with the harshness.
Ps. Thank you for the great review(s)! Helped me to make my decision in the beginning of the year.
Hey there! That’s correct, the 2021 and 2022s are the same. Unfortunately I’m not sure if I can provide you with the answers you’re looking for. My experience seems as though it’s been a bit different than yours. I haven’t ran any spacers and I don’t have any issues with bottom out while in the progressive flip chip position (nor harshness in the initial stroke). Although I’m tall, I’m very light at 70kg - so that may be why I don’t seem to be having a similar issue??
@@GlobalTrailGuide Hey, thanks for the answer, appreciate it anyway! I am also not very heavy myself, some 75kg. Maybe I should not stare at the sag %, fiddle with the LSC settings a bit and see.
Cheers!
I started with Fox recommendations and then adjusted from there - can’t remember what I decided on as the sweet spot. Best of luck though, hope you can get it dialed in!
Hello, nice review! I have ordered Clash Essentials 2 weeks ago and based on impressions coming from video - I will not be dissapointed :) Is it possible to mount 180mm rotor on front fork (Fox38) ? What kind of Disc rotor mounting is used there ( extrenal or internal center lock)?
Many thanks.
Hey there, thanks! The 38 accepts 180mm rotors, but personally I’d recommend keeping the stock 200mm. No purpose in going smaller.
The essential build comes with Shimano rotors, which are center lock. Once you receive your bike, enjoy!!
Could you share the sag you're using? Thanks!
Welcome Back!
Thanks my man!
Awesome bike brother! Specked out to the max legit…
Thanks! I just weighed it tonight though 😬 it’s almost as much as one of your pit bikes. 37.76 lbs (17.1 kg)…. That’s absurdly heavy in the MTB world
Very nice. Congrats!
Thanks! 🤘🏼
yo do you wish you had gone with the new mullet META SX im having a hard time choosing between the 2. wondering if u have an opinion
At the time of my purchase, the Meta SX didn’t exist and the Meta AM wasn’t available - which was a large part of why I got the Clash. Plus I had always wanted to try a long travel 27.5 anyways. The clash is a very fun and playful bike (aside from the weight).
However, I would definitely go with the Meta SX now. The geometry is improved over both the AM and the Clash. Commencal went way too long with the reach numbers on the Clash and AM - as proven by them reducing the reach on the SX.
I have to make the same decision. Clash or Meta SX. How did you decide, and why?
I have this build for 2020. SRAM drivetrain is still way better imo
Hi love your review, I'm 180cm right in-between M and L which would you recommend?
Hey there! Thanks! I was between L and XL, I went L - even though I always ride XL with any other brand.
If possible, compare the reach of your current bike to the clash that you’re looking at. It’s likely the M clash will be longer than your L that you might currently be riding.
I'm 168 cm, what bike recommend me? The Commencal Clash 2021 size M or the Commencal meta Sx 2022 size M?
Regardless of size, I’d go with Meta SX. That bike is rad and 29” front wheel is a no brainer 🤘🏼
If you could go back in time and buy this bike again would you?
I want more of a do it all fun bike and thought this might be a good fit. What do you think?
Sick bike!
Thank you!!
great bike, no bottle cage
How tall are you? You said that size L feels perfect for you.
192cm - normally I’d always be on an XL, but that’s a reach of 520 on Clash’s. To me, that is too long and I also think the bike would be very imbalanced with such short chainstays
Did you try some climb too?
At 17.1 kg (37.76 lbs), it’s definitely not an ideal climber. However, with the steep seat tube, 51T cassette, and relatively efficient pedaling - it can get it done. But.. the bike is definitely heavy. Very noticeable.
How tall are you and which size you ride? I am waiting for size S
I’m 6’3, 191cm. I’m on a Large and it fits well. I definitely could have gone either way, L or XL.
Traditionally, I always ride an XL, but these bikes are very long. Meanwhile, the seat tubes are cut very low, and I have incredibly long legs, so the only issue I’m running into is that the 170mm dropper post doesn’t reach high enough for me to pedal efficiently (Even when set at the min. insertion line). I always get 210mm OneUp droppers for my bikes, so that should resolve it in the future.
@@GlobalTrailGuide thank for answer :) i am short (168cm) and i have short legs as well, i hope it will fit
@@erikosuch4353 you’ll definitely be able to get your seat very low! I’m sure it’ll fit - best of luck and enjoy when it arrives!
Same. I want a size S in Heritage green color :( not in stock at the moment
@@420sesamestreet3 i ordered it and paid in april, and delivery will be in september :D
Hi, been looking at this bike for a while now but unsure about the sizing. Read in the comments you're 192(?) with a size large right? I'm 189cm would you recommend the same size?
Yes, would definitely recommend the large for you! I’m on the tall end of a large and could have gone either way with XL. L will fit you well
Hi! Why is your height
Hey! 192cm
1000 followers 1000m manual we will accept nothing less
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