Maybe in future laptop or motherboard will split lanes as 5.0x2 per M2 as sometimes amount of usable pcie lanes are limited . Which still provide speed as 4.0x4 in theory So the saved pcie lanes can be used for something else (like high speed connection usb4.0 + pcie tunneling via something like ASM4242)
Even with a "discounted" launch ($160), the price of this 990 EVO needs to drop _significantly_ . 990 *PRO* 2TB was just on sale for $30 less. The drive being "Gen5" doesn't do enough to close the gap, and the lack of DRAM is a straight deal-breaker. Samsung dropped the ball on this one.
M.2 can be tricky. 2280 is not alot of space and 22110 isn't common to fit in a consumer grade computer. Where i live a SABRENT 8TB Rocket 4 Plus cost alot, for the same money i can get 8 or even 10tb+ of enterprise grade ssd, sure it's not plug and play like a M.2 but overall makes up for it in alot higher durability etc.
From time to time i've had some very small OS lag with dram-less 980 ssd, after upgrading to 980 pro everything is smooth like butter (Ryzen 5700G with 32GB ram and A520m mb).
SSD should be focussing on cheaper higher capacity drives with better thermals. Speed hasn't been an issue since Gen 3 for most use cases. Size improvement over Speed. PS I might be saturated with SSD reviews, cough cough, next Aoostar r7 video, cough cough.
It doesn’t have a heat sink because most modern users have motherboards with included nvme heatsinks. Also, PCIe Gen 5x2 has the exact same bandwidth as PCIe Gen 4x4. All the numbers you’re getting are perfectly normal. Samsung is just calling it a PCIe Gen 5 drive on a technicality. Those 14Gbps Gen 5 drives you’re talking about are Gen 5x4 drives, not Gen 5x2. All PCIe Devices are backwards compatible. There are no issues with it.
There is a very famous SSD tier list that is decently maintained by a subreddit. Seeing its flaws, very curious how this will be categorized... If nothing else, the missing dram is already a big no no.
The DRAM thing really depends on use. - DRAM-less doesn't come with a performance penalty for read dependent situations.* - In general use, Gen4 and Gen5 drives -- if cooling is able to prevent SSD thermal throttling -- are fast enough that the difference won't negatively impact user experience except during long writes. Gen3 and before (and SATA) is a different story. - In high write situations, DRAM absolutely does make a difference. * As examples: gaming, media servers, archival storage, app drives on a NAS, etc., will be the same speed in actual usage with or without DRAM, but the one-time initial write/copy will be faster with DRAM.
so DRAMless is ok to use as a working drive for large 4K video files /reading/ editing? (not using it as an on-location shuttle for dumping media cards) @@davidg5898
I wonder why they even released it as it is.
Maybe in future laptop or motherboard will split lanes as 5.0x2 per M2 as sometimes amount of usable pcie lanes are limited . Which still provide speed as 4.0x4 in theory
So the saved pcie lanes can be used for something else (like high speed connection usb4.0 + pcie tunneling via something like ASM4242)
Even with a "discounted" launch ($160), the price of this 990 EVO needs to drop _significantly_ . 990 *PRO* 2TB was just on sale for $30 less.
The drive being "Gen5" doesn't do enough to close the gap, and the lack of DRAM is a straight deal-breaker. Samsung dropped the ball on this one.
When ssd or m2 with high capacity > 10Tb?
M.2 can be tricky. 2280 is not alot of space and 22110 isn't common to fit in a consumer grade computer.
Where i live a SABRENT 8TB Rocket 4 Plus cost alot, for the same money i can get 8 or even 10tb+ of enterprise grade ssd, sure it's not plug and play like a M.2 but overall makes up for it in alot higher durability etc.
From time to time i've had some very small OS lag with dram-less 980 ssd, after upgrading to 980 pro everything is smooth like butter (Ryzen 5700G with 32GB ram and A520m mb).
Insane speeds. Fastest SSD ever made!
I think i will stay with my 2tb samsung 970evo plus for gaming.
SSD should be focussing on cheaper higher capacity drives with better thermals. Speed hasn't been an issue since Gen 3 for most use cases. Size improvement over Speed. PS I might be saturated with SSD reviews, cough cough, next Aoostar r7 video, cough cough.
agree 100% the speeds havent been the issue (and if it is then the user needs better gear/investment)
The Lexar NM790 demolishes this at all levels. I got the 4tb for the same price of the 2tb of the evo
Agreed ! Too late shld have arrived a yr ago or more.
It doesn’t have a heat sink because most modern users have motherboards with included nvme heatsinks.
Also, PCIe Gen 5x2 has the exact same bandwidth as PCIe Gen 4x4. All the numbers you’re getting are perfectly normal. Samsung is just calling it a PCIe Gen 5 drive on a technicality. Those 14Gbps Gen 5 drives you’re talking about are Gen 5x4 drives, not Gen 5x2. All PCIe Devices are backwards compatible. There are no issues with it.
Thermal efficiency & power efficiency are going to continue to rise in importance. Great review.
Is there any platform that can do bifurcate PCIe Gen 5 x16 to eight x2 channels?
Just curious, who needs more then like 5000 MB/s? Ok always better with faster but the difference in experience must be quite slim.
Would the 990 EVO work with a Gen 3 x4 MOBO ??
yes but you can buy cheaper ssd with any difference
@@wolfram2673what do you suggest?
Exactly what I needed to know. Thank you!
I guess no new 8 bay synology for who knows how much longer?…
There is a very famous SSD tier list that is decently maintained by a subreddit. Seeing its flaws, very curious how this will be categorized...
If nothing else, the missing dram is already a big no no.
The DRAM thing really depends on use.
- DRAM-less doesn't come with a performance penalty for read dependent situations.*
- In general use, Gen4 and Gen5 drives -- if cooling is able to prevent SSD thermal throttling -- are fast enough that the difference won't negatively impact user experience except during long writes. Gen3 and before (and SATA) is a different story.
- In high write situations, DRAM absolutely does make a difference.
* As examples: gaming, media servers, archival storage, app drives on a NAS, etc., will be the same speed in actual usage with or without DRAM, but the one-time initial write/copy will be faster with DRAM.
so DRAMless is ok to use as a working drive for large 4K video files /reading/ editing? (not using it as an on-location shuttle for dumping media cards) @@davidg5898
14:06 watching this part at 2x speed 😂
Why it feels as downgrade but little more expensive.
so is it better to buy evo 990 or 99o pro ?
990 pro for os. This would be an great photo video editing and game drive.
PRO
PRO. just know that they historically dont hit their speed rates as advertised all the time due to a few factors.
I should buy evo 990 or 980 pro?????
there are gamers that prefer hynix over samsung or wd.
Hynix is very good for laptops with their efficiency and low heat generation
"rotton "?
"Come join me by the fire" - I suspect because the gas bill has gone through the roof.