I think the truth about the grimwalkers really showed how evil he is. He created actual copies of his brother and then he LITERALLY threw them out like garbage
Fun fact: The original brothers, Caleb and Philip Wittebane, Belos/Philip is the younger brother. If you look at the memory paintings in Hollow Mind, you’re sure to find Caleb teaching Philip something, and Philip seems to be 7 or 8 but Caleb is… 16.
I really love how Philip is pure evil and not sympathetic but he's still allowed to have feelings. He misses home. He's worried about what the world will be like when he returns. He's anxious about the DOU not working out like he thinks it will. He needs his brother and yet he hates him. Letting him be pure evil while also letting him feel makes him fascinating to watch.
He also worries about the danger that the witches can be to humanity. I mean, he doesnt commit murder for nothing yk? He came from a past where witches were monsters. He believes that he is doing the right thing.
Another understated aspect of his character is that he GENUINELY cares about Luz, as another human, and wants to bring her back to the human world because he thinks she doesn't belong there. He is racist and genocidal, but he sees her as just a kid who's bitten off more than she can chew, which to some extent is true. His care is infantilizing and doesn't excuse his actions at all, but it reflects really well on the ways real-life racist people can be so nice to their own race.
@@youshouldhydrate5018 Except there is the minor fact that he killed his brother for falling for that 'manipulation'. He is batshit crazy enough to somehow think that killing his 'brother' is acceptable as long as he can 'remake' him in an 'unbroken' state. it's part of why he insisted on 'dealing' with Hunter before making another grimwalker. Whitibane/Belos is a serial killer who, in his early days, not only deliberately sent people to their deaths when he had no reason to, wrote a false account to make himself look heroic. In the present, he a propagandist and dictator, who rigidly controls the isles. He's little more than a high functioning sociopath.
The moments he gets to be so effortlessly confident are so entertaining. "Goodbye Boiling Isles." and "Go find a hole to wither away in." Hes just. So entertaining. Even the little "can't reason with crazy" he GETS to be fun in his own way and its amazing
I haven't enjoyed a villain like Belos in a long time. He feels like he stepped right out of the classic era of Disney, where villains were exactly that - villains. They weren't sympathetic, they weren't redeemable. And they aren't some surprise twist revealing "I was evil all along!". They were vile monsters, and the more your learn about them just reinforces how despicable they truly are. Right from the get go Belos treats everyone as tools to be discarded the moment they no longer serve his use. He's a manipulator, a liar, and a murderer, with a powerful presence that just sucks you in. Belos is true, honest evil, and I absolutely love it.
Yeah it's refreshing to see a villain like him showing that villains don't have to be sympatric, have a reasonable excuse for doing what they're doing or a redemption arc.
I kinda expected that he would be the selfish villain you can understand but can't agree with. Not redeemable, totally egoist, but you can see how someone could fall into one of those. ... And then Hollow Mind came and literally slapped me with a "Nah, this guy has been a psychopath maniac for 400 years and he is not stopping now" and honestly, he just became one of my favorite Disney villains of all time at that point.
I tend to really like sympathetic villains but I like how Belos is written too. I think it's important to have representation of both sad, redeemable people and insane monsters who can't be reasoned with, because both types of people exist in the real world. It's important to have empathy, but it's also important to watch your back for people like Belos. I love the metaphors used with him, like how he turns into the monster made of all the palisman he murdered in cold blood, symbolising the weight of killing so many eating away at his sanity until there's nothing left, yet he abandons and ignores the crying of his inner self for the sake of his mission. He views even himself as a tool, mutilating his own body for his lost cause. He truly lives an entirely empty existence.
3:08 "our family is gone because of wild magic" the twisted thing about that line is that he actually believes that. he is convinced that killing caleb was the fault of the witch for supposedly "corrupting" caleb, he can't see that it was his own close-mindedness and prejudice that led him to kill his own brother.
@@tobsonasanya4765 In one of the paintings in his mind, the one with Caleb and his lover in the background, Philip is holding a dagger behind his back. So I think we can assume it was a complete murder.
And every guard “betrayed” him because they wanted to support Wild magic and wild witches, so technically, if he considers the rest of the guards his family (considering how he killed most of them before the reached adulthood, maybe not) he would justify their murder with something along the lines of “I had to save them from the corruption of Wild magic”
The season one finale is even better once you realize Belos was going easy on Luz on purpose. He spent years with Lilith and realized she was the witch who punched him. So once Luz showed up he realized Lilith would travel back in time and once he meet Luz that confirmed it since he say her use the glyphs and Lilith took Luz’s side. So he knew he couldn’t kill Luz in their little “fight” so he let her go knowing she needed to time travel. That’s why in Hollow Mind right after he knew she had already meet Philip he outright tried to kill her, cause she had already surved her purpose of giving him the light glyph.
@@gadget2327 plus Luz did yell “Lilith!” When Philip was digging the mirror to contact the Collector when the guardian to the mirror was charging after her. So when Belos met Luz, he then put the dots together. Plus I would remember someone’s face if they punched me in the face and gave me a permanent crooked nose
I’m sure Belos put up a show to make Luz think she fought him, as if he killed her, he’d break the timeline. He threw that fight as he needed her alive for his plans, Belos is a very smart man, and he knows that he has to sometimes lose the battle to win the war.
The little excitement in his voice talking about Luz doing glyph combinations is like a older relative complementing a child that picked up on something they struggled on. It's creepy how Belos' mannerisms always seemed warm and loving like a parent with their child, everything about him is a return to that Golden Era Disney villain that I haven't seen in years
Definitely, nowadays the villains in shows and movies are sympathetic and redeemable. But The Owl House shows that villains don’t have to be sympathetic, have a tragic backstory, have a reasonable reason to be doing what they’re doing, or be redeemable.
i think that luz was able to trick belos twice is because he extremely understimates her, he subjogated a whole island and generations of witches for centuries, a single kid isn't a threat at all in his mind,plus luz is human, so he doesn't see her as a real enemy, just a nuisance and another fellow human to "save". let's be honest, if belos took luz seriously, he probably would have her killed in their first match
@@makorutledge202 yeah it's pretty well established that both times Belos was going easy on Luz though like Ichigo from Bleach Luz's massive leaps in growth are usually one of the things that mostly throws people off as Luz is far more quick learning in terms of magic and tactics whereas in her 2nd fight she for the most part kept out of sight to avoid being caught plus there's other instances where Belos let down his guard around witches not just Luz it's just that Luz took advantage of it in a way Belos isn't used to that being Luz exploiting his faith in humanity especially in a situation where he usually is always controlling a deal's outcome.
Bit nice how the Collector turned out to have not been the "real villain." Nope, Phil was the villain and his plans were indeed not to conquer Earth, but actual, literal, and directly genocide. Meanwhile, the Collector is rather huggable..
Philip/Belos is more of a villain with his twisted mindset while the Collector is an atnagonist. And to rephrase it another way, Philip/Belos is lawful evil(not sure though) while the Collector is chaotic neutral for me. What's interesting is that the Collector is supposed to be the final antagonist the protagonist(Luz) needs to face of, but not really a villain.
@@tc4331 Oh yeah Belos is the definition of LawfulEvil. Absolute control forthe 'greater good', even outright mruder is jsut to make sure everything runs smoothly.
I’d pin the Collector as Neutral Evil actually. The Collector does whatever they want regardless of whether people get hurt, not caring about the consequences so long as they themselves aren’t effected. In contrast, chaotic neutral is purely motivated by self interest, but has enough morality to not deliberately hurt others for their own amusement.
What's really scary about Phillip is that, once you look past the more eldritch aspects of his character, someone like him can actually exist in real life. The chances of running into a dorito shaped chaos god like Bill Cipher or a multiverse conquering newt like Andrias are incredibly slim. But Phillip? He's a charismatic, manipulative bigot who persecutes a race he considers subhuman. There are plenty of people in the real world with his twisted mindset, whether they be a politician, a religious zealot with significant influence over the masses, or even your next door neighbor. Not to mention that his abuse of Hunter isn't too far off from the abuse people under fundamentalist religious households face for their "satanic" interests.
And the worst part ? Is that he looks like he's nice. He doesn't like he's evil. (Which can definitely hit as many people look like nice person, and convice you they're the good one when they're abusing you. But also show that because someone look like they're nice, doesn't mean they're not culprit of evil. (*cough cough* people asking to (make petition to) free murderer because they're "too pretty" or "look too nice" to be a criminal *cough cough* that one "yandere" girl who also had the same thing happened to her. Aka : people are too forgiving for look. Be it just prettyness or they're convinced look prove your innocence) (Note : for the last part it's more that they don't think they can find an actual criminal nice looking (not necessarily pretty). Forgetting the whole "don't judge a book by it's cover))
To be fair to Belos, first time he was impassive to anything Luz did as he already had everything he needed, except for the Titan’s blood. The second time he genuinely wanted to let Luz go home and this prevented him from seeing her plan. Belos may be a genocidal psychopath, but he still holds humans above witches so he would still want to bring a human back with him, even if she had been working against him.
My personal favorite detail of Belos is how much of a tone shift he is. Every other villain is a joke or has jokes made about them. Belos really doesn't. He's taken seriously by everyone in the show, and I love it. He's not goofy. He's not over the top. He's just... dangerous.
Exactly. This man just exudes an aura of pure, terrible malice. Even when he cracks jokes in his dry sense of humor, it doesn't feel forced or misplaced, and in fact feels calculated to instill rage in his opponents.
@Ultimate Sora I might have forgotten some of the villains, but for the most part I think the show at one point or another jokes about most of them. Or at least has moments meant to be kinda funny, like when the Collector asks King to read him a story, and slams down hundreds of stone tablets. I don't mind that the other villains get laughed at btw, Spiderman laughs at all of his rouges gallery, and they're pretty damn good villains in there. I'm just saying that Belos I think is taken the most 100% serious out of them all
I think the best thing about Belos' writing is that he's understandable, but NOT empathetic. After learning he's from 1600's America, you understand why he hates witches, but you still know he's wrong for doing do. He does truly heinous, evil acts time and time again, and has woven webs upon webs of lies (he even had the fandom fooled about his true intentions), but he's so GOOD at it that it's entertaining to watch. There are villains that you love, villains that you hate, and villains that you love to hate (or vice versa). But I've NEVER seen a villain so perfectly centered on that scale like this man is; he's arguably the most well-written and nuanced character in The Owl House.
His hatred of witchcraft also goes too deep; after experiencing this realm for hundreds of years he fully understands that witches are just people with magic, and they aren't and were never a threat to Earth. Traveling between the Isles and Earth is barely possible, and there was never any intent shown from witches or demons that they would even want to go to Earth. Yet, he still gleefully tries to genocide the witches and would gladly kill Luz too, but the consequences of his actions and arrogance come back to haunt him(if only he stopped toying around with Luz and increase his own ego by trying to sway her to his side, or wasn't cruel to Kikimora, etc.)
@@an8strengthkobold360 He does have that 1600's Puritan New England mentality of "destroy all the witches"... Makes sense if he is in fact from Luz's hometown back in Connecticut.
That’s… probably very close to how Belos actually perceived his actions. Replace ‘Titan’ with ‘God’ and you’ve got the foundation of Belos’s puritan beliefs.
Phillip/Belos is the perfect foil for Luz. Luz is a human that loves everything about witches and magic, is extremely loyal to the people she cares about, and wears her emotions on her sleeves. Belos is a human that despises magic, is manipulative and throws away loved ones like they’re trash, and is always calm and collected. Perfect contrast between the hero and the villain.
I hope that piece of Belos goo falling on Hunter really means we will see more of him because as much as I'm loving The Collector, I really want a proper conclusion to Philip and Caleb, and just to Philip in general. He truly is an amazing villain so he deserves to get an amazing finale.
Honstly yeah as cool as the collector stuff is, I'm mroe invested in Belos as the big bad especially since I'd rather the main characters be the ones who defeat him rather than an OP god-like antagonist
I hate the dudes guts but I agree. Not only do I want to see the conclusion to his story, I want him to see the human realm and despair at it's change. I want him to see his fellow humans that he worked and sacrificed hundreds of years to 'save' reject his ideals. I want him to lose and realize that what he based his entire life off of was a nasty phase that any sensible person hates.
I still cannot get over how nice and gentle he looks. When we first see his face during his little talk with Hunter about the human realm, it's easy to forget how evil he truly is. I love that design choice.
Yes, this! He looks like a kindly grandfather, and even talks like one at some points. Especially in the finale when he gets ready to return to earth, he actually looks quite good honestly. I love that he’s just a guy, he’s not evil looking he’s just evil
@@realnamebutitisnt.6610 I'm convinced the corporate ₣⨄¢₭s who currently run Disney don't know a thing about Disney. It's as if they've never watched any of the movies, any of the previous shows. I mean, I doubt Walt himself would approve of how they treated this masterpiece.
@@BoygeyMario Yeah,Disney really turned into a Sh!thole. Since im extremely annoyed by this show ending,im just gonna make myself happier by writing a crossover of Amphibia,Gravity falls and TOH,since I still want one.
@@realnamebutitisnt.6610 You got the right idea! Disney should be run by the animators/creators, not a bunch corporates who clearly know nothing about the entertainment industry. Speaking of crossovers, I often notice people comparing this show to Hunchback of Notre Dame, namely due to them both being extremely dark media, & how similar Hunter & Belos are to Quasi & Frollo respectively. (As an Owl House fan it just makes me want to see that movie.)
@@BoygeyMario Yeah,Disney really seems like it has no idea what to do with itself now. Like,they cancel all their good shows,remake the movies everyone knows them for in live action and make them crap and just..jeez. And that Hunchback thing is pretty interesting,they are weirdly similar.
Even though the big reveal about Philip was an amazing twist, it stands to perfect reason that the big villain of a series based around witches and magic, would be a Puritan witch-hunter.
Ya because the Collector could basically just be summed up as a kid who’s just a spoiled brat or someone just really destructive. Having someone like that overshadow Belos would be a really stupid thing to do
Yeah he'll probably overshadow him a lot Bc he's supposed to be the final antagonist O THINK although I like Enzo helps is just more interesting and there's much more depth to bells then collector so ye
Why Belos is a great villain: 1. He’s actually competent-Belos is one of the smartest, if not the smartest, characters in the show. He only lost due to a wild card he couldn’t account for, and even then, we don’t know how much of a setback that is. He will lose the battle to win the war. He won’t uphold a deal if he knows that it has no benefit to him, as Eda doesn’t want to owe him anything, and only an idiot would give magic to the person who hates them with a passion. 2. He’s legit evil-Belos is manipulative, cruel, arrogant, and violent. However, while it’s clear there’s no talking him down, his behaviour is implied to be due to having the virtues of a society that incinerates outcasts drilled into his skull since he was an impressionable child. Even his creation of the Grimwalkers has multiple interpretations of why he does it: Does he miss his brother? Does he hate him so much that killing him once wasn’t enough? A bit of both? 3. He’s a dark reflection of the hero-Luz and Belos are both humans that entered the Boiling Isles, learned how to use glyphs, and were both outcasts on Earth. The big difference is that Belos was raised to hate witches and value conformity, and Luz was raised to admire them, and value individuality. Ironically enough, Belos sees Caleb in Luz more than he sees himself in her. While the parallels can be made between Luz and Caleb, she’s more like a heroic version of Belos.
Something else that I like is that he’s delusional as HECK. He did every despicable thing I can think of and he STILL thinks he’s good. For some reason, I like that.
Phillip Wittebane is one of the most HUMAN villain I've seen. He wasn't born an all-powerful being like the Collector; instead, he built everything from scratch with his own hands. He had grand plans, but those plans weren't immune to accidents, either; throughout the series, we can see him always improvising in the face of various forces majeures, just like an ordinary man versus insurmountable odds. If not for his parochial views, his story would have almost been that of a hero. And even his seemingly petty bias, which drove him to such length, is a common and HUMAN weakness that we are all prone to. He is as human as Luz the Protagonist, if not more so in a different direction.
6:51 It's a small detail, but I really love how his voice deepens and he looks annoyed when he says "It's Phillip". In general, I love the damn voice of this man, he conveys emotions so well, and above all, how manipulative he is
1:07 It just occurred to me that the only reason Belos isn't trying to kill Luz is because she goes back in time to help him before she knew they were the same person.
My favorite detail about his design is the lack of a twinkle in his eyes. Every last character-human,witch,demon,even starchild has that white spot on the upper right of their pupil and the facet of a lighter shade in their eyes,except Belos Even Phillip,Belos’ own past self,had that detail in his eyes-but with his present self it’s nowhere to be found To me,this shows how far Phillip has sunk. Murdering his own brother,creating and promptly discarding those dozens of Grimwalkers,manipulating,persecuting,oppressing and petrifying the denizens of the Boiling Isles while planning to kill them all,abusing Hunter and consuming so many palismen that he lived far beyond his natural lifespan and turned himself into something inhuman-and doing it all for centuries. It’s said the eyes are the window to the soul,and Phillip’s soul has become so incredibly dark and twisted that his eyes have literally *lost their shine.*
I would agree unfortunately he isn’t, King, Kikimora, Barcus, Piniet and others don’t have that, and at first Viney and Jerbo didn’t either but that was changed later on.
Belos is one of my favorite villains He's cunning, intelligent, sociopathic, and a geniunly disturbing DISNEY villain, but also quite belivable and even understandable from his background
What I love about Belos is how many villain forms he takes as a character. We see him in the first season as the mysterious masked tyranical ruler, we can only guess what lures behind that mask, all we get is a blue flaming eye and mud like tentacle outbursts. Then we see him as an older kind looking man with long hair, like some kind of wise mentor, we see him as Phillip, a 16th century chap that reminds me of Charles Darwin with long beard and the curiosity of an adventurer and a explorer. In the episode in which Luz and Hunter are in his mind we get the creepy little Horror kid trope with Belos as a child wearing a mask, then we see his mudlike straight up monster form resembling a fucked up swamp-Wendigo, which was hintet at with his outbursts, in that form he is straight up an animalistic beast, hunting its prey. Then we also see him in his for him normal clothes. He is an old man with ponytail and nice uniform from the colonial times, we see him as just an arrogant and evil but stylish and classy gentleman villain. And then his final form which I dont think we need to talk about. Belos is awesome.
Definitely one of Disney's all-time great villains. Plus he's got some things in common with some of the animated canon villains; like Scar, he murdered his brother. Like Radcliffe, he wanted genocide. Like Frollo, he believed he was getting rid of the unholy. I could go on.
I like how Belos is pretty much a Lovecraftian main character as an antagonist. A scholarly 17th century old stock new englander who found himself in an oniric landscape full of weird and wondrous magic and dangerous creatures. He was initially a very inquisitive soul who became jaded, bitter and bigoted as his strange adventure wore on, growing to feel as hateful to the witches and demons as he felt homesick. There are a lot of traces from different HPL characters in his personality, but two of them are the most apparent. Joseph Curwen's wretchedly aged figure, malignant and cunning personality and manipulation of his kin as Belos ; and at his core, as Phillip Wittebane, Randolph Carter's disilusionment with his current life and a burning nostalgia for his childhood, and a place to which he lost the way long ago and only exists in his dreams. It's interesting however that contrary to Carter, it is a mundane and wholly physical world that Wittebane longs for.
*When you make up a lie and everyone believes you, so you just go with it:* But, in all honesty, he's such a well written character, he HAS to be Disney's best villain. Edit: Exaggeration, people. EXAGGERATION, PEOPLE
Disney had him cancelled, they'll never acknowledge he ever existed until the series can be resurrected for nostalgia cashgrab purposes, see you in 10 years :(
I really love how people thought he wanted to unify the two realms and has a slight shimmer of sympathy we don't know yet but no, he's just a monster who wants genocide. Can't believe people actually started hating him when they found out he's not a villain to get redeemed... I'm very happy for that...
My favorite part about Hollow Mind was that it didn't just feel like Hunter was betrayed and lied to by Belos, but the audience as well. Many fan theories relied on Belos actually having a connection to the titan and Hunter actually being important to it, so when it was revealed that all of his mystical-ness was built off of lies, half of the fandom (including myself) was blown out of the water.
let's be honest, if belos took luz seriously , he probably would have her killed in their first match, but since he sees her as a fellow(ignorant) human to save, he just doesn't care at all, because in his mind, luz is just a little nuisance, nothing to worry about, until he got pissed at the end and as you saw, he went full rampage and tried to kill her almost immediately. another thing i appreciate, is that even if he went full rampage, when he saw the collector, he immediately regained his common sense and instead of doing some stupid cliche like "i'm the main villain, nobody can defeat me, blablabla " ***(proceeds to do something stupid that leads to his inevitable demise), he tried to do something smart....well, atleast he tried, but still managed to survivie. thinking straight and trying the "have mercy" strategy isn't always a shameful way you know..
To think that out of the hideous mask, petrifications, his monster form and all the villanous abilities he has his manipulative nature takes the most absolute cake! Getting to the point of plain psychological torture in Hollow Mind when Luz confronts him. The fact that his words are his biggest weapon... It's always been there, this ascpect of his character, and the more out in the open he gets, more unhinged, boundless and menacing it gets. Coming to the point again of deliberately torturing Luz with the truth and while she has an emotional breakdown having the guts of asking her to do him a kindness like it's no big deal
5:59 This part and onward is really interesting compared to the previous parts of the video because he's finally starting to show his true colors to more than just Luz; now that he's so close, he kinda knows he can just do whatever because the pieces of the puzzle are already in place It really shows the manipulation (Also, stop the Kikimora hate 💔) 7:42 This part too, even though Hunter found out Belos's true intentions, he knows that Hunter most likely still has some type of soft spot for him because he hasn't had time to heal over the trauma and refuses to talk about it as well. Belos knows and is trying to manipulate him, which in all honesty I feel it would've worked (as in Hunter might stop fighting) if he didn't get distracted by Flapjack
Someone pointed out that up until that point, Hunter isn't even fighting Belos, only protecting the others and getting them out of line of fire, probably because even after everything, he still sees the man as his only family. Either Belos still considers helping allies as "hurting him", either he's aware of Hunter's reluctance to fight him directly and is trying to gaslight and manipulate him even now
Why did Belos reveal his face to the public during the parade? Well, with the Day of Unity in one month, he wanted every witch and demon to remember the face of the man who led them all to death.
Belos showing his face can be seen as a form of vulnerability. After all these years of hiding it behind a mask, ashamed of it, he reveals it to the world. He trusts the populace with something shameful, gains their sympathy, and expects them to trust The Titan's plans for the Day of Unity. Belos is a cunning manipulator, and showing his face is a part of his manipulation so his plans can go smoothly.
As much as I loathe this man, I can’t deny that he’s an expertly crafted villain. His monstrous condition combined w/ the beliefs you can find among real people today has created someone truly terrifying. & the fact is that he didn’t get so far bc of his power level or skill w/ magic, he got where he was bc he’s a master manipulator. He manipulated the Boiling Isles society as a whole, he manipulated the people he created from his own brother’s corpse, he even manipulated the godlike being that gave him his magic. I’m willing to bet that he also manipulated his brother & was a regular fear monger-er/accuser as a child in his Puritan village (I really hope season 3 can go into detail about the Wittebane brothers’ backstory). & to add to the terror, he truly believes he’s taking the path a righteousness. All while planning & enacting a genocide. I hate him as a person, but adore him as a character.
*8:01* Such a legendary and masterfully written antagonist who has such an amazing chemistry with the main character(s) being disposed in an instant by this new villain was surely shocking to me. I would haved love to see him get defeated in a climactic way at the end of the series, but instead we got this spoiled child deity annihilating him.
@@LePoetKing To add to that, if you watch the end credits of the episode, Philip goo closes the door to the abandoned house- so we know it's like still sentient/functioning or whatever
As much as I love Bill cipher, belos hits different, bill was all about chaos & made it fun to watch, belos is chaos but with reason & some what pity & hypocrite & other stuff & some how works for a villain like him.
Bill is a fun, silly yet dangerous villain. He makes jokes and does silyl things but, much like the Joker and Xykon, is a twisted psychopath who will hurt people because he finds it funny. Belos is very differnt. He's a very control oriented dude, a guy who beleives murdering an entire dimension of people is for the ebst of everyone to make balance and bring ordr to the world. He's calm, even tempered and, in his twisted way, rational....but this only serves to highlight his own madness and cruelty. Very different villains, but very compellign in their own way.
I disagree of Belos being chaos. He's order, uncaring and oppresive order. You either fit in or die. Coven system was early example of this, but his "real order" was much simpler. "No witches!"
My little opinion + TOH spoilers To be fair, belos showed quite the improvvisation skills: he got destroyed and his plan failed, but then he discovers that in that broken form he can posses things, so he learns to use this new power, possess Hunter and come back to posses the Collector. When that fails he tries to manipalute him to do his job, when even that fails he realize that the Titan is an option more powerful and pretty vulnerable for him to use. Some people thinks that's too convenient for him to have so many backup plans, but truth is he made those out of improvisation, to rember us that he's quite of a genius.
I love how irredeemable he is That and how he rolls with being a villain He's ruthless yet extremely cunning, intelligent, and resourceful And finally how he believes he's doing everything he does for the good of humanity, failing to see how corrupt he was
@@tobsonasanya4765 ya. Why wouldn’t he be? He may not be *THE BEST* but he should definitely fall into the category of *ONE OF THE BEST* . Anyone who says otherwise probably just hates the show, not the character
@@tobsonasanya4765 you’ve just been saying this on literally every comment. Kindly explain to me why you don’t think he’s one of the best Disney villains
The reason Belos's twist works is that he's still allowed to be evil before the reveal. With other twist villains, it's just like "Yes it was me all along. Mwahahaah" and they get defeated like 5 minutes after you learn they're evil..
5:15 luv how he holds up the golden guard's mask - meaning his brother's copies - as he says that he'd "do anything to save humanity from evil". This is how he justifies killing his brother. That he saved him from corruption or some other deranged idea. Generally this is obvious enough by the rest of his character but i love this detail
The scariest, and most attractive 😩, part about Belos/Phillip is how calm and nurturing he is to Hunter when he's unmasked... That fake persona of caring and loving uncle/Emperor just makes you want to love him, and then when you see who he really is you're just in disbelief. Not me though, I love both sides 🖤 it's my toxic trait
Finally someone who understands!! Indeed Philip is one of the best villain!! Many people hate him but we have to admit, that makes him a good villain. He has a cool villain backstory, he tricks people. As a person who loves villains, Philip is one of my favorite villain of all time!! Thanks for making this!! Also I came here to watch this after seeing possessed hunter.
He literally is like Frollo: -He is probably very religious -He hunts witches -he is a feared figure of authority -He Is responsable for a Genocide -Abuses a young inocent person by isolating him from society and even hiding his face (also killed his parents, indirectly) -Got the main character tricked into helping him commit the genocide in question -he uses witches as an excuse to escape from Guilt and his own delusions Quick! Make an animation of Hellfire with Belos!
He's creepy, honestly. The fact that he wanted to "protect" and "help" Luz. Because she's a human and he wants to "protect" humanity. He is the best villain I've seen in a Disney show.
I love how just absolutely unhinged he is but it’s also simultaneously subtle to the point that you (& many of the characters) don’t realize it unless you are just smacked in the face with it
I love how Belos is so smug and vile in his actions that him screwing over Kikimora and the Collector made people go 'oof'. Just threw them aside like dirty socks once he got what he wanted. My favorite thing is that when he betrays the latter, he did so without any regrets and such relish, making a bunch of reactors I saw actually go 'aww, poor collector!' a bit, making people temporarily forget that they also did some rotten shit (hunting down the owl beast and indirectly being responsible for Eda's hardships). Belos was just smart enough to twist the knife in first. Also, his design heavily reminds me of Wiseman from Baten Kaitos, another irredeemable bastard spellcaster who sucks out life-force to sustain themselves.
He killed his brother, lied through every teeth he had, used others as sacrifices, and betrayed everyone who would’ve considered him as a friend. And still somehow a bit short behind Big Jack Horner.
Disney show antagonists are just better than Disney movie villains these days. *Dr.Doofenshmirtz*- a hilarious yet tragic "villain" who, despite his goals of taking over the tri-state area, is actually a bumbling fool who happens to have an uncanny skill at building inators and is honestly a really good dad, which is rare for villainous characters (and let's not forget his great relationship with Perry lmao) *Toffee*- a compelling antagonist who really sells his threatening nature by how well he plays off the other characters, playing with them and taunting them, as if they're pieces on a chessboard...all for his finger, which sells something that any antagonist should have: a reason (yes, doing things for no apparent reason or just for the chaos can count as a reason), as the finger is his goal because it is a symbol of how magic poses a serious threat to him and his monstrous bretherin *Lord Dominator*- a fun-to-watch psychopath (I don't really have much to say about her tbh...although I do like her villain song (nobody tops Dr.Doof when it comes to Disney animated show villain songs tho) and her character design is memorable and awesome) *Bill Cipher*- a great balance between comedic and utterly terrifying and a great way to write a seemingly overpowered villain. His presence was powerful and he accomplished the role of antagonist well, as he essentially forced the protagonists to improve and become better and stronger in order to defeat him. His personality and powers combine to make a chaotic dorito god with a cute hat who steals the show everytime he is on screen *King Andrias*- probably the best twist villain in a long time (his goofy personality wasn't an act, so when he showed he was evil, but remained goofy, the audience didn't have to relearn his personality, which gave him some complexity), who also had great comedic moments, amazing parallels and contrasts with the protagonist (Anne) and a truly understandable and sympathetic backstory (and let's not forget the stellar voice acting from Keith David) *Emperor Belos*- a character who is expertly written as a complete monster with little to no redeemable moments and a perfect antagonist for a show like Owl House, as he represents the opposite of what the show promotes: acceptance of people for who and what they are and self-love. His lack of comedic moments also cements how serious of a threat he is (that isn't to say Bill or Andrias weren't threatening as they showed that comedic villains can be just as dangerous as serious ones), contrasting with every character in the show (even Kikimora had a couple of funny moments). Also, even though we barely saw him in season 1, his presence was definitely felt through his coven system, the conformitorium, and the Emperor's Coven itself, so when we did meet him, we already had reasons to not like him and even fear him In conclusion, Disney needs to either stop f***ing making remakes, stop restricting creators such as Dana Terrace, Matt Braly, and Alex Hirsch with their shows, or both lol Also if you couldn't tell, I fricking love villains/antagonists in general. They are usually very interesting and fun to watch.
I like how the 1st encounter with luz he keeps her alive not because he just wanted the portal or anything but because he remembers that's shes neccesarily for his present self. And when luz clearly shows it has happened he just immediately goes to murder
As soon as he pulls his hair back, he no longer looks like a kind hearted old man (which he never was in the series, but the first sight of his actual face we got appeared that way).
I love this trend of modern Disney shows getting these big-name actors to play the big bads. We've gotten Michael C. Hall as Toffee, Noël Wells as Lord Dominator, Catherine Tate as Magica De Spell, Keith David as King Andrias, and now we somehow have Matthew Rhys as Emperor Belos. Keep it going!
I'm really trying to get my dad to watch this show, but some how we always running into the same problem: forgetting about watching it! I got him slightly hooked on it, so I think I may have got one more to watch it with my sisters.
You’re lucky you have family members who would want to watch this with you. If I showed this to anyone in my family, they’d probably say they’re not interested and tell me to stop watching it
3:34 I truly have to admit one thing though, as menacing as he is, You can also hear the kindness in his voice when he talks to Hunter. It seems the mask muffles his voice.
Witch Hunter general is a very specific term, only used by one man. An Englishman by the name of Matthew Hopkins, who invented the title. He wrote the book "The Discovery of Witches", detailing his exploits, how to hunt. This book made it's way to the colonies, where it greatly influenced the witch hunts there. This puts Philip's childhood or young adult life around 1647, when it was published. The implications of wanting that specific title is...severe. Matthew Hopkins killed over 100 so called witches in two years. He and his men were responcible for more witch trials than the previous 160 years, with Matthew himself often sighted as the main cause of the trials in the first place. Matthew was a mere man with a cult of personality. Philip is a shapeshifting, soul devouring seemingly now ageless abomination with a plethora of spells and knowledge, and literal centuries of experience leading a religious dictatorship. And he wants to be just like Hopkins.
@EMOTIONAL DAMAGE Actually I’ve got a theory for it now. I think when he’s wearing his full mask and robe that he’s not in human form, but monster form. I mean think about it, he’s about the right height and he probably wouldn’t care that he looks like that if no one can see his face
Is it weird I don't like calling him a "Disney" villain? He's just too great of a villain compared to what Disney has been putting out for the mainstream public. And lest we forget they themselves said that The Owl House "doesn't fit their brand".
@@tobsonasanya4765 ...Hard to explain. I feel like there's a clear distinction between "a Disney show" and a show written by someone who happens to work for Disney, where their creative vision clearly shows, and they strive to keep it as authentic and uncensored as possible, even if it doesn't appeal to as wide an audience as Disney tries to with their modern productions. It's the same way with Gravity Falls, which, I believe, was technically a Disney production too, but I've never seen anyone calling Bill Cipher a Disney villain.
I find it interesting how in the episode where Luz helps Phillip, he says the isles where hiding the gliphs from him, but cut back to current day, he says it was the titan, as if he has convinced himself of his own lies.
I forgot that I was dying to see what Belos looked like without a mask and thought of him to be just Belos but then I was given much more than what I expected- He has ✨CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT✨ . not character development like Zuko just character development of him turning from a witch hunter into a *monster*
Notice how earlier we see emperor belos use his left hand very dominantly, but then we see Philip use his right hand, to let you know hes a puritan who hates witches. He switched to left as rise to power to 'pretend' to be an evil witch' (catholics, and puritans believed left handed were evil 🤣very clever clues.
I think the truth about the grimwalkers really showed how evil he is. He created actual copies of his brother and then he LITERALLY threw them out like garbage
Threw
@@carl8760 thanks
Not even the Pale King was that bad.
Plus he's made like hundreds of them over time.
Fun fact: The original brothers, Caleb and Philip Wittebane, Belos/Philip is the younger brother. If you look at the memory paintings in Hollow Mind, you’re sure to find Caleb teaching Philip something, and Philip seems to be 7 or 8 but Caleb is… 16.
I really like that Belos never really raises his voice. It shows he is someone who doesn't need to be loud because when he speaks, everyone listens.
Except for that freaked out when he saw flapjack. But that just makes him more creepy.
A calm wave hides a bottomless sea of insanity below.
He has to keep control of his emotions, otherwise he would turn into his monster form.
He’s charismatic
@@j3ssthealien283 freaking out is not the same as shouting to get someone's attention
I really love how Philip is pure evil and not sympathetic but he's still allowed to have feelings. He misses home. He's worried about what the world will be like when he returns. He's anxious about the DOU not working out like he thinks it will. He needs his brother and yet he hates him. Letting him be pure evil while also letting him feel makes him fascinating to watch.
He also worries about the danger that the witches can be to humanity.
I mean, he doesnt commit murder for nothing yk? He came from a past where witches were monsters. He believes that he is doing the right thing.
@@youshouldhydrate5018 Lawful Evil
Another understated aspect of his character is that he GENUINELY cares about Luz, as another human, and wants to bring her back to the human world because he thinks she doesn't belong there. He is racist and genocidal, but he sees her as just a kid who's bitten off more than she can chew, which to some extent is true. His care is infantilizing and doesn't excuse his actions at all, but it reflects really well on the ways real-life racist people can be so nice to their own race.
@@coreyeverett5500 for him, Luz was another victim of witch's manipulation, just like his brother.
@@youshouldhydrate5018 Except there is the minor fact that he killed his brother for falling for that 'manipulation'. He is batshit crazy enough to somehow think that killing his 'brother' is acceptable as long as he can 'remake' him in an 'unbroken' state. it's part of why he insisted on 'dealing' with Hunter before making another grimwalker. Whitibane/Belos is a serial killer who, in his early days, not only deliberately sent people to their deaths when he had no reason to, wrote a false account to make himself look heroic. In the present, he a propagandist and dictator, who rigidly controls the isles. He's little more than a high functioning sociopath.
The moments he gets to be so effortlessly confident are so entertaining. "Goodbye Boiling Isles." and "Go find a hole to wither away in." Hes just. So entertaining. Even the little "can't reason with crazy" he GETS to be fun in his own way and its amazing
He admits he’s crazy
Sassy
@@tysondennis1016 I thought he was talking about Luz 💀
@@joltixer3099 he was
Man I’ll never get over him saying that cause Luz said the same thing to Eda in one episode too
I haven't enjoyed a villain like Belos in a long time. He feels like he stepped right out of the classic era of Disney, where villains were exactly that - villains. They weren't sympathetic, they weren't redeemable. And they aren't some surprise twist revealing "I was evil all along!". They were vile monsters, and the more your learn about them just reinforces how despicable they truly are. Right from the get go Belos treats everyone as tools to be discarded the moment they no longer serve his use. He's a manipulator, a liar, and a murderer, with a powerful presence that just sucks you in. Belos is true, honest evil, and I absolutely love it.
Yeah it's refreshing to see a villain like him showing that villains don't have to be sympatric, have a reasonable excuse for doing what they're doing or a redemption arc.
I kinda expected that he would be the selfish villain you can understand but can't agree with. Not redeemable, totally egoist, but you can see how someone could fall into one of those.
... And then Hollow Mind came and literally slapped me with a "Nah, this guy has been a psychopath maniac for 400 years and he is not stopping now" and honestly, he just became one of my favorite Disney villains of all time at that point.
I tend to really like sympathetic villains but I like how Belos is written too. I think it's important to have representation of both sad, redeemable people and insane monsters who can't be reasoned with, because both types of people exist in the real world. It's important to have empathy, but it's also important to watch your back for people like Belos. I love the metaphors used with him, like how he turns into the monster made of all the palisman he murdered in cold blood, symbolising the weight of killing so many eating away at his sanity until there's nothing left, yet he abandons and ignores the crying of his inner self for the sake of his mission. He views even himself as a tool, mutilating his own body for his lost cause. He truly lives an entirely empty existence.
@@PedroShadow2011 i mean we have not seen his origin
Disney animation studios should take notes from this. I hate the twist villains, they just come out as super pretentious to me.
3:08 "our family is gone because of wild magic" the twisted thing about that line is that he actually believes that. he is convinced that killing caleb was the fault of the witch for supposedly "corrupting" caleb, he can't see that it was his own close-mindedness and prejudice that led him to kill his own brother.
honestly what if he killed his brother by accident
@@tobsonasanya4765 Actually, that would be an interesting plot twist.
@@MasterKnightDH yeah like we never saw ho it went that but with season 3 being shortened i don't know if we would get a flashback
@@tobsonasanya4765 In one of the paintings in his mind, the one with Caleb and his lover in the background, Philip is holding a dagger behind his back. So I think we can assume it was a complete murder.
And every guard “betrayed” him because they wanted to support Wild magic and wild witches, so technically, if he considers the rest of the guards his family (considering how he killed most of them before the reached adulthood, maybe not) he would justify their murder with something along the lines of “I had to save them from the corruption of Wild magic”
The season one finale is even better once you realize Belos was going easy on Luz on purpose. He spent years with Lilith and realized she was the witch who punched him. So once Luz showed up he realized Lilith would travel back in time and once he meet Luz that confirmed it since he say her use the glyphs and Lilith took Luz’s side. So he knew he couldn’t kill Luz in their little “fight” so he let her go knowing she needed to time travel. That’s why in Hollow Mind right after he knew she had already meet Philip he outright tried to kill her, cause she had already surved her purpose of giving him the light glyph.
Nah I doubt he recognized Lillith
@@gadget2327 the voice at least
@@gadget2327 plus Luz did yell “Lilith!” When Philip was digging the mirror to contact the Collector when the guardian to the mirror was charging after her.
So when Belos met Luz, he then put the dots together. Plus I would remember someone’s face if they punched me in the face and gave me a permanent crooked nose
@@gadget2327 dana confirmed belos recognized lilith
I’m sure Belos put up a show to make Luz think she fought him, as if he killed her, he’d break the timeline. He threw that fight as he needed her alive for his plans, Belos is a very smart man, and he knows that he has to sometimes lose the battle to win the war.
The little excitement in his voice talking about Luz doing glyph combinations is like a older relative complementing a child that picked up on something they struggled on. It's creepy how Belos' mannerisms always seemed warm and loving like a parent with their child, everything about him is a return to that Golden Era Disney villain that I haven't seen in years
Definitely, nowadays the villains in shows and movies are sympathetic and redeemable. But The Owl House shows that villains don’t have to be sympathetic, have a tragic backstory, have a reasonable reason to be doing what they’re doing, or be redeemable.
Seems like the good villains moved to the series.
@@chloejoyhenry3137 to be fair belos came from the 1600s
He reminds me of Claude Frollo from Hunchback of Notre Dame
@@chloejoyhenry3137 To be fair it at least makes sense to what why he's doing. It's kind of like a "ohhh" moment.
Luz being able to out wit Belos not once but twice just goes to show that being clever and quick with improvisational thinking is Luz's best strength.
That’s probably why she learned about glyphs way faster than Philip did
@@jacobb4795 well that and it's kinda implied that the Titan itself was trying to hide the glyphs from Philip and might've help Luz find them.
@@williehughes1690 I know
i think that luz was able to trick belos twice is because he extremely understimates her, he subjogated a whole island and generations of witches for centuries, a single kid isn't a threat at all in his mind,plus luz is human, so he doesn't see her as a real enemy, just a nuisance and another fellow human to "save".
let's be honest, if belos took luz seriously, he probably would have her killed in their first match
@@makorutledge202 yeah it's pretty well established that both times Belos was going easy on Luz though like Ichigo from Bleach Luz's massive leaps in growth are usually one of the things that mostly throws people off as Luz is far more quick learning in terms of magic and tactics whereas in her 2nd fight she for the most part kept out of sight to avoid being caught plus there's other instances where Belos let down his guard around witches not just Luz it's just that Luz took advantage of it in a way Belos isn't used to that being Luz exploiting his faith in humanity especially in a situation where he usually is always controlling a deal's outcome.
Bit nice how the Collector turned out to have not been the "real villain." Nope, Phil was the villain and his plans were indeed not to conquer Earth, but actual, literal, and directly genocide.
Meanwhile, the Collector is rather huggable..
Philip/Belos is more of a villain with his twisted mindset while the Collector is an atnagonist. And to rephrase it another way, Philip/Belos is lawful evil(not sure though) while the Collector is chaotic neutral for me. What's interesting is that the Collector is supposed to be the final antagonist the protagonist(Luz) needs to face of, but not really a villain.
@@tc4331
Exactly.
@@tc4331 Oh yeah Belos is the definition of LawfulEvil. Absolute control forthe 'greater good', even outright mruder is jsut to make sure everything runs smoothly.
@@GlacedPancake
Indeed.
I’d pin the Collector as Neutral Evil actually. The Collector does whatever they want regardless of whether people get hurt, not caring about the consequences so long as they themselves aren’t effected.
In contrast, chaotic neutral is purely motivated by self interest, but has enough morality to not deliberately hurt others for their own amusement.
What's really scary about Phillip is that, once you look past the more eldritch aspects of his character, someone like him can actually exist in real life. The chances of running into a dorito shaped chaos god like Bill Cipher or a multiverse conquering newt like Andrias are incredibly slim. But Phillip? He's a charismatic, manipulative bigot who persecutes a race he considers subhuman. There are plenty of people in the real world with his twisted mindset, whether they be a politician, a religious zealot with significant influence over the masses, or even your next door neighbor. Not to mention that his abuse of Hunter isn't too far off from the abuse people under fundamentalist religious households face for their "satanic" interests.
Holy cow. You're right.
Props to u for making a full on essay
you basically described hitler
@@florinaslan5482
... yeah, genocidal dictator does describe them both.
And the worst part ? Is that he looks like he's nice.
He doesn't like he's evil. (Which can definitely hit as many people look like nice person, and convice you they're the good one when they're abusing you. But also show that because someone look like they're nice, doesn't mean they're not culprit of evil. (*cough cough* people asking to (make petition to) free murderer because they're "too pretty" or "look too nice" to be a criminal *cough cough* that one "yandere" girl who also had the same thing happened to her. Aka : people are too forgiving for look.
Be it just prettyness or they're convinced look prove your innocence)
(Note : for the last part it's more that they don't think they can find an actual criminal nice looking (not necessarily pretty). Forgetting the whole "don't judge a book by it's cover))
The fact that in both the season Finale's Luz tricks him
He got outsmarted by a 14 year old twice
@@JP_FRFR Yeah he is way too overconfident.
To be fair to Belos, first time he was impassive to anything Luz did as he already had everything he needed, except for the Titan’s blood. The second time he genuinely wanted to let Luz go home and this prevented him from seeing her plan. Belos may be a genocidal psychopath, but he still holds humans above witches so he would still want to bring a human back with him, even if she had been working against him.
And he betrays an important character in both as well
And he should had learn by now
My personal favorite detail of Belos is how much of a tone shift he is.
Every other villain is a joke or has jokes made about them. Belos really doesn't.
He's taken seriously by everyone in the show, and I love it.
He's not goofy. He's not over the top. He's just... dangerous.
Exactly. This man just exudes an aura of pure, terrible malice. Even when he cracks jokes in his dry sense of humor, it doesn't feel forced or misplaced, and in fact feels calculated to instill rage in his opponents.
@Ultimate Sora I might have forgotten some of the villains, but for the most part I think the show at one point or another jokes about most of them. Or at least has moments meant to be kinda funny, like when the Collector asks King to read him a story, and slams down hundreds of stone tablets.
I don't mind that the other villains get laughed at btw, Spiderman laughs at all of his rouges gallery, and they're pretty damn good villains in there. I'm just saying that Belos I think is taken the most 100% serious out of them all
I think the best thing about Belos' writing is that he's understandable, but NOT empathetic.
After learning he's from 1600's America, you understand why he hates witches, but you still know he's wrong for doing do.
He does truly heinous, evil acts time and time again, and has woven webs upon webs of lies (he even had the fandom fooled about his true intentions), but he's so GOOD at it that it's entertaining to watch.
There are villains that you love, villains that you hate, and villains that you love to hate (or vice versa). But I've NEVER seen a villain so perfectly centered on that scale like this man is; he's arguably the most well-written and nuanced character in The Owl House.
His hatred of witchcraft also goes too deep; after experiencing this realm for hundreds of years he fully understands that witches are just people with magic, and they aren't and were never a threat to Earth. Traveling between the Isles and Earth is barely possible, and there was never any intent shown from witches or demons that they would even want to go to Earth. Yet, he still gleefully tries to genocide the witches and would gladly kill Luz too, but the consequences of his actions and arrogance come back to haunt him(if only he stopped toying around with Luz and increase his own ego by trying to sway her to his side, or wasn't cruel to Kikimora, etc.)
I felt the same way
"can't reason with crazy"
It's like he knows he's evil
Does he? From his scewed puritan perspectives he has a very good reason for what he's doing.
@@an8strengthkobold360 He does have that 1600's Puritan New England mentality of "destroy all the witches"... Makes sense if he is in fact from Luz's hometown back in Connecticut.
We know he is, Toby, he and his brother founded Gravesfield
@@WizardToby Not sure if that is an excuse. Caleb also comevrtom the 1600s, and he was sane.
I think he thinks Luz is the cray one
"It's almost as if the Titan himself didn't want me to possess this magic."
Makes sense now actually.
Belos when he does anything bad: TITANS WILL
Some priests be like. "Not all just corrupt ones"
That’s… probably very close to how Belos actually perceived his actions. Replace ‘Titan’ with ‘God’ and you’ve got the foundation of Belos’s puritan beliefs.
Phillip/Belos is the perfect foil for Luz. Luz is a human that loves everything about witches and magic, is extremely loyal to the people she cares about, and wears her emotions on her sleeves. Belos is a human that despises magic, is manipulative and throws away loved ones like they’re trash, and is always calm and collected. Perfect contrast between the hero and the villain.
I hope that piece of Belos goo falling on Hunter really means we will see more of him because as much as I'm loving The Collector, I really want a proper conclusion to Philip and Caleb, and just to Philip in general. He truly is an amazing villain so he deserves to get an amazing finale.
If we are going off of the end credits scene, yeah Belos is definitely coming back in some way in Season 3. Belos is now in the human realm.
Honstly yeah as cool as the collector stuff is, I'm mroe invested in Belos as the big bad especially since I'd rather the main characters be the ones who defeat him rather than an OP god-like antagonist
I hate the dudes guts but I agree. Not only do I want to see the conclusion to his story, I want him to see the human realm and despair at it's change. I want him to see his fellow humans that he worked and sacrificed hundreds of years to 'save' reject his ideals. I want him to lose and realize that what he based his entire life off of was a nasty phase that any sensible person hates.
Belos no merece nada
@@davidfrankpenaospina3446 Que aburrido suenas compa
I still cannot get over how nice and gentle he looks. When we first see his face during his little talk with Hunter about the human realm, it's easy to forget how evil he truly is. I love that design choice.
Even the music playing in the background is pretty soft
Yes, this!
He looks like a kindly grandfather, and even talks like one at some points.
Especially in the finale when he gets ready to return to earth, he actually looks quite good honestly.
I love that he’s just a guy, he’s not evil looking he’s just evil
Once you make a villain that is both badass and hateable for what they did, you know you made a great villain.
yeah,and once they do that,they proceed to cancel the show.
@@realnamebutitisnt.6610 I'm convinced the corporate ₣⨄¢₭s who currently run Disney don't know a thing about Disney. It's as if they've never watched any of the movies, any of the previous shows. I mean, I doubt Walt himself would approve of how they treated this masterpiece.
@@BoygeyMario Yeah,Disney really turned into a Sh!thole.
Since im extremely annoyed by this show ending,im just gonna make myself happier by writing a crossover of Amphibia,Gravity falls and TOH,since I still want one.
@@realnamebutitisnt.6610 You got the right idea! Disney should be run by the animators/creators, not a bunch corporates who clearly know nothing about the entertainment industry. Speaking of crossovers, I often notice people comparing this show to Hunchback of Notre Dame, namely due to them both being extremely dark media, & how similar Hunter & Belos are to Quasi & Frollo respectively. (As an Owl House fan it just makes me want to see that movie.)
@@BoygeyMario Yeah,Disney really seems like it has no idea what to do with itself now.
Like,they cancel all their good shows,remake the movies everyone knows them for in live action and make them crap and just..jeez.
And that Hunchback thing is pretty interesting,they are weirdly similar.
The way he said, "Goodbye, Boiling Isles"... Matthew Rhys gave me the chills. He captured Belos' sadism perfectly.
Even though the big reveal about Philip was an amazing twist, it stands to perfect reason that the big villain of a series based around witches and magic, would be a Puritan witch-hunter.
I love ths sadistic man so much. He has such a kind face from his face reveal, which was creepy. He's the kind of villain you want to know more of.
I didn't realise that at 1:34, you can hear him doing one of those monsterous sounds he does while transforming.
I hope the collector doesn’t overshadow Belos in the third season, Belos is such a great villain that I love to despise
Ya because the Collector could basically just be summed up as a kid who’s just a spoiled brat or someone just really destructive. Having someone like that overshadow Belos would be a really stupid thing to do
Yeah he'll probably overshadow him a lot
Bc he's supposed to be the final antagonist O THINK
although I like Enzo helps is just more interesting and there's much more depth to bells then collector so ye
Well
He did
I think they got a good balance between the 2
I absolutely loved Emperor Belos/Philip Wittebane! He's no doubt Disney's Best Dark Villain, as well as one of Disney's best villains too!
Yeah. He's DEFINITELY better than someone like Frollo
Hell no. Bill Cipher is the best and most intimidating disney villain and no one comes closes, especially not belos.
@@xnortheast1106 We all have our opinions
@@haydenberends3905 eh
@@tobsonasanya4765 At least Belos isn't creepy (in the same way)
Why Belos is a great villain:
1. He’s actually competent-Belos is one of the smartest, if not the smartest, characters in the show. He only lost due to a wild card he couldn’t account for, and even then, we don’t know how much of a setback that is. He will lose the battle to win the war. He won’t uphold a deal if he knows that it has no benefit to him, as Eda doesn’t want to owe him anything, and only an idiot would give magic to the person who hates them with a passion.
2. He’s legit evil-Belos is manipulative, cruel, arrogant, and violent. However, while it’s clear there’s no talking him down, his behaviour is implied to be due to having the virtues of a society that incinerates outcasts drilled into his skull since he was an impressionable child. Even his creation of the Grimwalkers has multiple interpretations of why he does it: Does he miss his brother? Does he hate him so much that killing him once wasn’t enough? A bit of both?
3. He’s a dark reflection of the hero-Luz and Belos are both humans that entered the Boiling Isles, learned how to use glyphs, and were both outcasts on Earth. The big difference is that Belos was raised to hate witches and value conformity, and Luz was raised to admire them, and value individuality. Ironically enough, Belos sees Caleb in Luz more than he sees himself in her. While the parallels can be made between Luz and Caleb, she’s more like a heroic version of Belos.
The best villains ever are dark reflections of the hero. Look at Vader. Look at Scar.
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And of how deep his hatred for the Clawthornes run for generations. It reminds me of Sauron's hatred for the line of Isildur.
Something else that I like is that he’s delusional as HECK. He did every despicable thing I can think of and he STILL thinks he’s good. For some reason, I like that.
Matthew Rhys should be considered a legend.
Phillip Wittebane is one of the most HUMAN villain I've seen. He wasn't born an all-powerful being like the Collector; instead, he built everything from scratch with his own hands. He had grand plans, but those plans weren't immune to accidents, either; throughout the series, we can see him always improvising in the face of various forces majeures, just like an ordinary man versus insurmountable odds. If not for his parochial views, his story would have almost been that of a hero. And even his seemingly petty bias, which drove him to such length, is a common and HUMAN weakness that we are all prone to. He is as human as Luz the Protagonist, if not more so in a different direction.
The way he said "Knock knock, human." Always gives me chills. Belos' voice actor does such a great job.
Dude went from being a weirdly attractive old man to being an actual skinwalker
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It's a small detail, but I really love how his voice deepens and he looks annoyed when he says "It's Phillip". In general, I love the damn voice of this man, he conveys emotions so well, and above all, how manipulative he is
Can we just appreciate for a minute how FREAKING AMAZING his voice actor is? Really brings him to life in such an awesome way
1:07 It just occurred to me that the only reason Belos isn't trying to kill Luz is because she goes back in time to help him before she knew they were the same person.
My favorite detail about his design is the lack of a twinkle in his eyes. Every last character-human,witch,demon,even starchild has that white spot on the upper right of their pupil and the facet of a lighter shade in their eyes,except Belos
Even Phillip,Belos’ own past self,had that detail in his eyes-but with his present self it’s nowhere to be found
To me,this shows how far Phillip has sunk. Murdering his own brother,creating and promptly discarding those dozens of Grimwalkers,manipulating,persecuting,oppressing and petrifying the denizens of the Boiling Isles while planning to kill them all,abusing Hunter and consuming so many palismen that he lived far beyond his natural lifespan and turned himself into something inhuman-and doing it all for centuries.
It’s said the eyes are the window to the soul,and Phillip’s soul has become so incredibly dark and twisted that his eyes have literally *lost their shine.*
Dunno about the “murdering his brother thing”…. But murdering different versions of his brother? Sure.
@@wqweqwet1804 Bruh
@@wqweqwet1804 Its even shown in Hollow Mind
I would agree unfortunately he isn’t, King, Kikimora, Barcus, Piniet and others don’t have that, and at first Viney and Jerbo didn’t either but that was changed later on.
Disney has some really great villains, inclduding Andrias and Belos.
dont forget Bill!
@@emalmohsenzada3887 don't forget Toffee
Belos is one of my favorite villains
He's cunning, intelligent, sociopathic, and a geniunly disturbing DISNEY villain, but also quite belivable and even understandable from his background
What I love about Belos is how many villain forms he takes as a character. We see him in the first season as the mysterious masked tyranical ruler, we can only guess what lures behind that mask, all we get is a blue flaming eye and mud like tentacle outbursts.
Then we see him as an older kind looking man with long hair, like some kind of wise mentor, we see him as Phillip, a 16th century chap that reminds me of Charles Darwin with long beard and the curiosity of an adventurer and a explorer. In the episode in which Luz and Hunter are in his mind we get the creepy little Horror kid trope with Belos as a child wearing a mask, then we see his mudlike straight up monster form resembling a fucked up swamp-Wendigo, which was hintet at with his outbursts, in that form he is straight up an animalistic beast, hunting its prey. Then we also see him in his for him normal clothes. He is an old man with ponytail and nice uniform from the colonial times, we see him as just an arrogant and evil but stylish and classy gentleman villain. And then his final form which I dont think we need to talk about. Belos is awesome.
Definitely one of Disney's all-time great villains. Plus he's got some things in common with some of the animated canon villains; like Scar, he murdered his brother. Like Radcliffe, he wanted genocide. Like Frollo, he believed he was getting rid of the unholy. I could go on.
Can I add Mother Gothel? Cause just like her Belos/Philip probably gas-lit Hunter and was probably an abuser to Hunter.
@@chloejoyhenry3137 he is we’ve seen it.
Philip Wittebane will go down as one of the greatest antagonists of all time, and im not only talking about cartoons. Hes a great villain, period.
My favorite part about him is that he’s probably the most delusional villain in cartoon history
I like how Belos is pretty much a Lovecraftian main character as an antagonist. A scholarly 17th century old stock new englander who found himself in an oniric landscape full of weird and wondrous magic and dangerous creatures. He was initially a very inquisitive soul who became jaded, bitter and bigoted as his strange adventure wore on, growing to feel as hateful to the witches and demons as he felt homesick. There are a lot of traces from different HPL characters in his personality, but two of them are the most apparent. Joseph Curwen's wretchedly aged figure, malignant and cunning personality and manipulation of his kin as Belos ; and at his core, as Phillip Wittebane, Randolph Carter's disilusionment with his current life and a burning nostalgia for his childhood, and a place to which he lost the way long ago and only exists in his dreams. It's interesting however that contrary to Carter, it is a mundane and wholly physical world that Wittebane longs for.
*When you make up a lie and everyone believes you, so you just go with it:*
But, in all honesty, he's such a well written character, he HAS to be Disney's best villain.
Edit: Exaggeration, people. EXAGGERATION, PEOPLE
Disney had him cancelled, they'll never acknowledge he ever existed until the series can be resurrected for nostalgia cashgrab purposes, see you in 10 years :(
@@BaalFridge oh, I didn't know about that. :(
lol best
@@tobsonasanya4765 ?
@@perfectionist7547 he is far from the best villain lol
I really love how people thought he wanted to unify the two realms and has a slight shimmer of sympathy we don't know yet but no, he's just a monster who wants genocide. Can't believe people actually started hating him when they found out he's not a villain to get redeemed... I'm very happy for that...
he is boiling isles Hitler
My favorite part about Hollow Mind was that it didn't just feel like Hunter was betrayed and lied to by Belos, but the audience as well. Many fan theories relied on Belos actually having a connection to the titan and Hunter actually being important to it, so when it was revealed that all of his mystical-ness was built off of lies, half of the fandom (including myself) was blown out of the water.
“Almost as if the Titan himself didn’t want me to have that knowledge.”
This is going to be foreshadowing, I can sense it
belos saying "almost like the titan himself didn't want me to" was REAL
He is such an interesting villain, he feel's like an actual threat and his manipulation feel real and raw.
let's be honest, if belos took luz seriously , he probably would have her killed in their first match, but since he sees her as a fellow(ignorant) human to save, he just doesn't care at all, because in his mind, luz is just a little nuisance, nothing to worry about, until he got pissed at the end and as you saw, he went full rampage and tried to kill her almost immediately.
another thing i appreciate, is that even if he went full rampage, when he saw the collector, he immediately regained his common sense and instead of doing some stupid cliche like "i'm the main villain, nobody can defeat me, blablabla " ***(proceeds to do something stupid that leads to his inevitable demise), he tried to do something smart....well, atleast he tried, but still managed to survivie.
thinking straight and trying the "have mercy" strategy isn't always a shameful way you know..
To think that out of the hideous mask, petrifications, his monster form and all the villanous abilities he has his manipulative nature takes the most absolute cake!
Getting to the point of plain psychological torture in Hollow Mind when Luz confronts him. The fact that his words are his biggest weapon...
It's always been there, this ascpect of his character, and the more out in the open he gets, more unhinged, boundless and menacing it gets.
Coming to the point again of deliberately torturing Luz with the truth and while she has an emotional breakdown having the guts of asking her to do him a kindness like it's no big deal
Luz was not ready for the "humans are the real monsters" trope
This man doesn't mind being called crazy because he knows he is, but is offended when Luz said his fashion taste was bad.
5:59 This part and onward is really interesting compared to the previous parts of the video because he's finally starting to show his true colors to more than just Luz; now that he's so close, he kinda knows he can just do whatever because the pieces of the puzzle are already in place
It really shows the manipulation
(Also, stop the Kikimora hate 💔)
7:42 This part too, even though Hunter found out Belos's true intentions, he knows that Hunter most likely still has some type of soft spot for him because he hasn't had time to heal over the trauma and refuses to talk about it as well. Belos knows and is trying to manipulate him, which in all honesty I feel it would've worked (as in Hunter might stop fighting) if he didn't get distracted by Flapjack
Oof ur right
Someone pointed out that up until that point, Hunter isn't even fighting Belos, only protecting the others and getting them out of line of fire, probably because even after everything, he still sees the man as his only family.
Either Belos still considers helping allies as "hurting him", either he's aware of Hunter's reluctance to fight him directly and is trying to gaslight and manipulate him even now
Why did Belos reveal his face to the public during the parade? Well, with the Day of Unity in one month, he wanted every witch and demon to remember the face of the man who led them all to death.
That, and he was getting tired of playing the role of the Emperor for so long.
Belos showing his face can be seen as a form of vulnerability. After all these years of hiding it behind a mask, ashamed of it, he reveals it to the world. He trusts the populace with something shameful, gains their sympathy, and expects them to trust The Titan's plans for the Day of Unity.
Belos is a cunning manipulator, and showing his face is a part of his manipulation so his plans can go smoothly.
@@jaysonhodges7154 And it was a ploy to get them to love and trust him more/feel like they meant a lot to him.
@@garden_creature Manipulation is Belos' forté. Though that's a heavily massive understatement.
As much as I loathe this man, I can’t deny that he’s an expertly crafted villain. His monstrous condition combined w/ the beliefs you can find among real people today has created someone truly terrifying. & the fact is that he didn’t get so far bc of his power level or skill w/ magic, he got where he was bc he’s a master manipulator. He manipulated the Boiling Isles society as a whole, he manipulated the people he created from his own brother’s corpse, he even manipulated the godlike being that gave him his magic. I’m willing to bet that he also manipulated his brother & was a regular fear monger-er/accuser as a child in his Puritan village (I really hope season 3 can go into detail about the Wittebane brothers’ backstory). & to add to the terror, he truly believes he’s taking the path a righteousness. All while planning & enacting a genocide. I hate him as a person, but adore him as a character.
*8:01* Such a legendary and masterfully written antagonist who has such an amazing chemistry with the main character(s) being disposed in an instant by this new villain was surely shocking to me. I would haved love to see him get defeated in a climactic way at the end of the series, but instead we got this spoiled child deity annihilating him.
a piece of phillip goo fell on hunter, he'll probably be back
Not their fault Disney cut them short :/
@@LePoetKing To add to that, if you watch the end credits of the episode, Philip goo closes the door to the abandoned house- so we know it's like still sentient/functioning or whatever
bold of you to assume he died
s3 want to talk to you
He spoilers*
Does come back and gets epically defeated!!!
To think that just a few months ago we didn't exactly know what Belos meant when he said "It would be such a hassle to find a replacement" to Hunter.
As much as I love Bill cipher, belos hits different, bill was all about chaos & made it fun to watch, belos is chaos but with reason & some what pity & hypocrite & other stuff & some how works for a villain like him.
Bill is a fun, silly yet dangerous villain. He makes jokes and does silyl things but, much like the Joker and Xykon, is a twisted psychopath who will hurt people because he finds it funny.
Belos is very differnt. He's a very control oriented dude, a guy who beleives murdering an entire dimension of people is for the ebst of everyone to make balance and bring ordr to the world. He's calm, even tempered and, in his twisted way, rational....but this only serves to highlight his own madness and cruelty.
Very different villains, but very compellign in their own way.
I disagree of Belos being chaos. He's order, uncaring and oppresive order.
You either fit in or die.
Coven system was early example of this, but his "real order" was much simpler. "No witches!"
My little opinion + TOH spoilers
To be fair, belos showed quite the improvvisation skills: he got destroyed and his plan failed, but then he discovers that in that broken form he can posses things, so he learns to use this new power, possess Hunter and come back to posses the Collector. When that fails he tries to manipalute him to do his job, when even that fails he realize that the Titan is an option more powerful and pretty vulnerable for him to use.
Some people thinks that's too convenient for him to have so many backup plans, but truth is he made those out of improvisation, to rember us that he's quite of a genius.
"You really want to help? Go find a hole to wither away in."
god damn 😭kiki had it coming but that was brutal
I love how irredeemable he is
That and how he rolls with being a villain
He's ruthless yet extremely cunning, intelligent, and resourceful
And finally how he believes he's doing everything he does for the good of humanity, failing to see how corrupt he was
Manipulative
Cunning
Powerful
Ruthless
Yep, Phillip/Belos is truly a great villain
For the record, he says "Caleb!?" Not "Kill him!"
Well that’s what the tv subtitles thought he said
both can apply tho
it's funny how a series Disney did everything to cancel fast is already hailed as having one of the best ''disney'' villains
eh one of the best?
@@tobsonasanya4765 ya. Why wouldn’t he be? He may not be *THE BEST* but he should definitely fall into the category of *ONE OF THE BEST* . Anyone who says otherwise probably just hates the show, not the character
@@bengilhooly3616 eh that is debatable i don't know about one of the best
@@tobsonasanya4765 you’ve just been saying this on literally every comment. Kindly explain to me why you don’t think he’s one of the best Disney villains
@@bengilhooly3616 he is good but not that good in all of disney , we are talking about one of the best lol
The reason Belos's twist works is that he's still allowed to be evil before the reveal. With other twist villains, it's just like "Yes it was me all along. Mwahahaah" and they get defeated like 5 minutes after you learn they're evil..
His treatment of Hunter and his fellow predecessors shows just how much of a psychopath he is
5:15 luv how he holds up the golden guard's mask - meaning his brother's copies - as he says that he'd "do anything to save humanity from evil". This is how he justifies killing his brother. That he saved him from corruption or some other deranged idea. Generally this is obvious enough by the rest of his character but i love this detail
The scariest, and most attractive 😩, part about Belos/Phillip is how calm and nurturing he is to Hunter when he's unmasked... That fake persona of caring and loving uncle/Emperor just makes you want to love him, and then when you see who he really is you're just in disbelief. Not me though, I love both sides 🖤 it's my toxic trait
It’s a very “alright hear me out” type of attractive he is, especially when he can’t handle his human form
@@Powered1Buttercup RIGHT?!
Finally someone who understands!! Indeed Philip is one of the best villain!! Many people hate him but we have to admit, that makes him a good villain. He has a cool villain backstory, he tricks people. As a person who loves villains, Philip is one of my favorite villain of all time!! Thanks for making this!! Also I came here to watch this after seeing possessed hunter.
Why can’t people understand that you can hate a villain for the awful shit they do but love them BECAUSE they’re a villain?
He literally is like Frollo:
-He is probably very religious
-He hunts witches
-he is a feared figure of authority
-He Is responsable for a Genocide
-Abuses a young inocent person by isolating him from society and even hiding his face (also killed his parents, indirectly)
-Got the main character tricked into helping him commit the genocide in question
-he uses witches as an excuse to escape from Guilt and his own delusions
Quick! Make an animation of Hellfire with Belos!
He's creepy, honestly. The fact that he wanted to "protect" and "help" Luz. Because she's a human and he wants to "protect" humanity. He is the best villain I've seen in a Disney show.
why is hunters little headshake at 3:41 so freaking adorable
‘Cause he’s baby
@@Powered1Buttercup u right
I love how just absolutely unhinged he is but it’s also simultaneously subtle to the point that you (& many of the characters) don’t realize it unless you are just smacked in the face with it
I love how Belos is so smug and vile in his actions that him screwing over Kikimora and the Collector made people go 'oof'. Just threw them aside like dirty socks once he got what he wanted. My favorite thing is that when he betrays the latter, he did so without any regrets and such relish, making a bunch of reactors I saw actually go 'aww, poor collector!' a bit, making people temporarily forget that they also did some rotten shit (hunting down the owl beast and indirectly being responsible for Eda's hardships). Belos was just smart enough to twist the knife in first.
Also, his design heavily reminds me of Wiseman from Baten Kaitos, another irredeemable bastard spellcaster who sucks out life-force to sustain themselves.
He is one of my favorite villains! Hope he gets more screenti-
collector: _boop_
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Well, he got to become a blue eyes white dragon.
He killed his brother, lied through every teeth he had, used others as sacrifices, and betrayed everyone who would’ve considered him as a friend.
And still somehow a bit short behind Big Jack Horner.
Belos: Betrayer of Children
Disney show antagonists are just better than Disney movie villains these days.
*Dr.Doofenshmirtz*- a hilarious yet tragic "villain" who, despite his goals of taking over the tri-state area, is actually a bumbling fool who happens to have an uncanny skill at building inators and is honestly a really good dad, which is rare for villainous characters (and let's not forget his great relationship with Perry lmao)
*Toffee*- a compelling antagonist who really sells his threatening nature by how well he plays off the other characters, playing with them and taunting them, as if they're pieces on a chessboard...all for his finger, which sells something that any antagonist should have: a reason (yes, doing things for no apparent reason or just for the chaos can count as a reason), as the finger is his goal because it is a symbol of how magic poses a serious threat to him and his monstrous bretherin
*Lord Dominator*- a fun-to-watch psychopath (I don't really have much to say about her tbh...although I do like her villain song (nobody tops Dr.Doof when it comes to Disney animated show villain songs tho) and her character design is memorable and awesome)
*Bill Cipher*- a great balance between comedic and utterly terrifying and a great way to write a seemingly overpowered villain. His presence was powerful and he accomplished the role of antagonist well, as he essentially forced the protagonists to improve and become better and stronger in order to defeat him. His personality and powers combine to make a chaotic dorito god with a cute hat who steals the show everytime he is on screen
*King Andrias*- probably the best twist villain in a long time (his goofy personality wasn't an act, so when he showed he was evil, but remained goofy, the audience didn't have to relearn his personality, which gave him some complexity), who also had great comedic moments, amazing parallels and contrasts with the protagonist (Anne) and a truly understandable and sympathetic backstory (and let's not forget the stellar voice acting from Keith David)
*Emperor Belos*- a character who is expertly written as a complete monster with little to no redeemable moments and a perfect antagonist for a show like Owl House, as he represents the opposite of what the show promotes: acceptance of people for who and what they are and self-love. His lack of comedic moments also cements how serious of a threat he is (that isn't to say Bill or Andrias weren't threatening as they showed that comedic villains can be just as dangerous as serious ones), contrasting with every character in the show (even Kikimora had a couple of funny moments). Also, even though we barely saw him in season 1, his presence was definitely felt through his coven system, the conformitorium, and the Emperor's Coven itself, so when we did meet him, we already had reasons to not like him and even fear him
In conclusion, Disney needs to either stop f***ing making remakes, stop restricting creators such as Dana Terrace, Matt Braly, and Alex Hirsch with their shows, or both lol
Also if you couldn't tell, I fricking love villains/antagonists in general. They are usually very interesting and fun to watch.
His eyes, his hair, his figure! Oh my gosh, it's worse than I thought! He's GORGEOUS!
I like how the 1st encounter with luz he keeps her alive not because he just wanted the portal or anything but because he remembers that's shes neccesarily for his present self. And when luz clearly shows it has happened he just immediately goes to murder
It unnerves how calm and polite he sound most of the time.
"It will be such a hustle to find a replacement"
Daaaamn that hits hard now
As soon as he pulls his hair back, he no longer looks like a kind hearted old man (which he never was in the series, but the first sight of his actual face we got appeared that way).
I love this trend of modern Disney shows getting these big-name actors to play the big bads. We've gotten Michael C. Hall as Toffee, Noël Wells as Lord Dominator, Catherine Tate as Magica De Spell, Keith David as King Andrias, and now we somehow have Matthew Rhys as Emperor Belos. Keep it going!
I'm really trying to get my dad to watch this show, but some how we always running into the same problem: forgetting about watching it! I got him slightly hooked on it, so I think I may have got one more to watch it with my sisters.
You’re lucky you have family members who would want to watch this with you. If I showed this to anyone in my family, they’d probably say they’re not interested and tell me to stop watching it
@@bengilhooly3616 I feel you, it's the same way for me.
I once had a dream that Emperor Belos was in fortnite.
3:34 I truly have to admit one thing though, as menacing as he is, You can also hear the kindness in his voice when he talks to Hunter. It seems the mask muffles his voice.
God, I love his voice. It’s so musical and creepy
Witch Hunter general is a very specific term, only used by one man. An Englishman by the name of Matthew Hopkins, who invented the title. He wrote the book "The Discovery of Witches", detailing his exploits, how to hunt. This book made it's way to the colonies, where it greatly influenced the witch hunts there. This puts Philip's childhood or young adult life around 1647, when it was published.
The implications of wanting that specific title is...severe. Matthew Hopkins killed over 100 so called witches in two years. He and his men were responcible for more witch trials than the previous 160 years, with Matthew himself often sighted as the main cause of the trials in the first place.
Matthew was a mere man with a cult of personality. Philip is a shapeshifting, soul devouring seemingly now ageless abomination with a plethora of spells and knowledge, and literal centuries of experience leading a religious dictatorship.
And he wants to be just like Hopkins.
Even worse....
Matthew Hopkins and Phillip Wittebane are the same person.
Belos IS Matthew.
@@ladygrey7425 Huh?
Season 1 Belos was a vibe bro, so badass
Does anyone else notice that Belos is about a foot and a half taller when he’s wearing the mask? And I’m not including the horns.
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@EMOTIONAL DAMAGE Actually I’ve got a theory for it now. I think when he’s wearing his full mask and robe that he’s not in human form, but monster form. I mean think about it, he’s about the right height and he probably wouldn’t care that he looks like that if no one can see his face
he can literally shapeshift and teleport so I think he can fake his height without any struggle
Is it weird I don't like calling him a "Disney" villain? He's just too great of a villain compared to what Disney has been putting out for the mainstream public. And lest we forget they themselves said that The Owl House "doesn't fit their brand".
I think it refers to the classic disney villain type, back when they actually tried doing good stuff
he is till a Disney villain.
@@tobsonasanya4765 no one said otherwise though!
@@kiilliing3490 so what was the issue. disney still have solid villains unless you are referring to their animated movies i guess?
@@tobsonasanya4765 ...Hard to explain. I feel like there's a clear distinction between "a Disney show" and a show written by someone who happens to work for Disney, where their creative vision clearly shows, and they strive to keep it as authentic and uncensored as possible, even if it doesn't appeal to as wide an audience as Disney tries to with their modern productions.
It's the same way with Gravity Falls, which, I believe, was technically a Disney production too, but I've never seen anyone calling Bill Cipher a Disney villain.
GOOD FUCKING TIMES I LUV U EVIL OLD MAN
I find it interesting how in the episode where Luz helps Phillip, he says the isles where hiding the gliphs from him, but cut back to current day, he says it was the titan, as if he has convinced himself of his own lies.
What’s scary is how hot he is in kings tide…
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in the beginning i didn't even realized he was british
I forgot that I was dying to see what Belos looked like without a mask and thought of him to be just Belos but then I was given much more than what I expected-
He has ✨CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT✨ . not character development like Zuko just character development of him turning from a witch hunter into a *monster*
This is the manifestation of these lyrics right here “ever since my brother died I’ve been thinking bout homicide
LMfaOOoo 💀
that quiet "Ok, I'll play" is so terrifying
Notice how earlier we see emperor belos use his left hand very dominantly, but then we see Philip use his right hand, to let you know hes a puritan who hates witches. He switched to left as rise to power to 'pretend' to be an evil witch' (catholics, and puritans believed left handed were evil 🤣very clever clues.
Emperor Belos makes The Owl House so fricking DARK.