DRIVING THE OLD SPA CIRCUIT (Comparing the FASTEST Ever V10, V8, V6 Vs 2004-05 Layout)

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  • Опубліковано 13 чер 2024
  • We're revisiting the OLD Spa Circuit, with the classic Bus Stop chicane!
    That's not all, we're also comparing the 3 Most Dominant Cars of their respective eras too!
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    Revisiting the old Silverstone: • DRIVING THE OLD SILVER...
    Revisiting the old Hockenheim: • DRIVING THE OLD HOCKEN...
    F1 2004 Ferrari is DLC
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    00:00 - Intro
    00:56 - F1 2004 Ferrari F2004
    08:02 - F1 2011 Red Bull RB7
    13:28 - F1 2020 Mercedes W11
    19:15 - Replays
    #SpaFrancorchamps #Spa #BelgiumGP
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  • @Billiamiscool
    @Billiamiscool Рік тому +155

    I know there’s a lot of nostalgia for the older cars, but seeing how the modern cars just stick to the road with such confidence is awesome

    • @georgetk
      @georgetk Рік тому +18

      For me it’s the exact opposite, I love the more unstable cars :))

    • @Kalerk2149
      @Kalerk2149 Рік тому +8

      @@georgetk same
      I love seeing the cars on edge.
      But the modern cars i also like because of the insane speed into corners and all that stuff.
      It makes it all the more satisfying when you do a really good lap with such unstable cars

    • @vinceh3095
      @vinceh3095 Рік тому

      I think the 2004 cars on slicks will be a few seconds faster

    • @AAA310
      @AAA310 Рік тому

      Modern cars are too big for racing

    • @Tom97
      @Tom97  Рік тому

      I do agree, we'll appreciate them in a few years with the help of nostalgia...

  • @bukharijabarazman2700
    @bukharijabarazman2700 Рік тому +82

    The F2004 Ferrari V10…
    The RB7 BLOWN DIFFUSER…
    The W11’s absolute speed…
    Divine…

    • @user-xn3vj4eu8l
      @user-xn3vj4eu8l Рік тому +2

      combine together that 100% be the best F1 car ever produce

  • @R9naldo
    @R9naldo Рік тому +44

    The default Kunos F2004 is actually underpowered compared to the actual late season F2004, by about 90 hp to be exact. That is a huge difference

    • @freddiemercury3882
      @freddiemercury3882 Рік тому +12

      Yeah that’s why I only use the ACR F2004 it’s much more realistic. Stickier tyres like the 2000s ones, and more power. I think Kunos used the clienti version of the F2004, as it’s a car that Ferrari customers can drive if they have enough money. Engine is tuned down irl and tyres are not the prestige Bridgestone ones, but some less grippy ones.

    • @fatihhanpekel4000
      @fatihhanpekel4000 Рік тому

      @@freddiemercury3882 ungaroring and monza was the best version of F2004

  •  Рік тому +40

    1:44.701 was the time Kimi Räikkönen set during FP2 in 2004 (just for reference)

    • @Tom97
      @Tom97  Рік тому +8

      Cheers for this!

    •  Рік тому +10

      @@Tom97 I remember that Friday being dry, so I look it up. Maybe a low 1:44 was possible. Or even a 1:43. Times fastered by 1 second from Friday to Saturday. Of course, weather played a big part on that weekend.
      Thanks for pinning the comment!

  • @lefishef1
    @lefishef1 Рік тому +43

    Finally, the W11 😍
    Only took 2 episodes of asking for it lmao

    • @Tom97
      @Tom97  Рік тому +11

      Had to try and find a good quality one!

    • @lefishef1
      @lefishef1 Рік тому +11

      @@Tom97 Bwoah
      I hate to say it but I love the speed of this car, undeniably the fastest ever

    • @Tom97
      @Tom97  Рік тому +8

      Agreed!

    • @Wingbar
      @Wingbar Рік тому +1

      Would love to see the 2012 McLaren at one point as well, it’s such a beautiful car and was the fastest car that year

  • @fernandomanzanares5555
    @fernandomanzanares5555 Рік тому +10

    Pre-2004 was the "real" bus stop chicane, as you say.

  • @SaDTV
    @SaDTV Рік тому +4

    The layout prior to 2003-04 was even better re. Bus Stop. This one was always seen as a very watered down version.

    • @hinkypunk7073
      @hinkypunk7073 Рік тому +1

      True! I wonder if there exists a version for AC with the "original" Bus Stop

    • @juancete0107
      @juancete0107 Рік тому

      @@hinkypunk7073 their is actually. Its called Spa 1988

  • @Macak05
    @Macak05 Рік тому +1

    4:18 F1 2004 For the ps2 was also my First F1 Game that is soooo nostalgic when i watch old gameplay 😂

  • @toccus
    @toccus Рік тому +4

    15:50 most satisfying flat out

  • @Tom97
    @Tom97  Рік тому +2

    What other circuits would like to see? I've got Nurburgring on my list (if I can find the old version)
    Revisiting the old Silverstone: ua-cam.com/video/misIjDLRtmM/v-deo.html
    Revisiting the old Hockenheim: ua-cam.com/video/uCxPrWzodY4/v-deo.html

  • @moritz-wi6rj
    @moritz-wi6rj Рік тому +3

    You gotta drive this track with the F2004 slick version !

  • @molnarandrelukacs5866
    @molnarandrelukacs5866 Рік тому +14

    I would love to see a video like this on the old Hungarian GP layout, i know that is not the most popular circuit, but i think it would be very exciting to see these cars go between those huge kerbs they had back in then. (i am saying not the first layout, cuz it has a stupid chichane before T4, but the layout after that (if i know right it was used from 1988 or something)
    (also i don't know if there is a mod for that layout, but i would be suprised if there isnt)

  • @calmyourselfmeditate4821
    @calmyourselfmeditate4821 Рік тому +4

    The screaming sound of V10 & V8 engine are music to ears

  • @KayaK0791
    @KayaK0791 Рік тому

    Love these comparison episodes!! This Thisssss is a Tom classic 😉👏👏🍾🍾💪💪💪

  • @3DWorldMan
    @3DWorldMan Рік тому +4

    i would use the rss formula 2013 instead of the red bull you used as it is a tiny bit faster

  • @Flipflop432
    @Flipflop432 Рік тому

    I think some manual brake bias adjust corner to corner may help with lap time. You can see modern F1 drivers adjusting torq and brake bias on the steering wheel corner to corner when the camera is onboard.

  • @oskaroganton6394
    @oskaroganton6394 Рік тому

    Love this Series pls keep it going❤

  • @VelocidadeAlta
    @VelocidadeAlta Рік тому +2

    Ferrari F2004 was a true beast!

  • @rogerallen6644
    @rogerallen6644 Рік тому

    Very interesting seeing the difference in the cars over the years.

  • @velocitaaa
    @velocitaaa Рік тому +4

    So much better than the modern version.

  • @vamositalia4600
    @vamositalia4600 Рік тому +2

    In F1 2011 you could do Eau Rouge with the DRS open😂

  • @outplayedd_a1367
    @outplayedd_a1367 Рік тому +1

    So happy to see this video lesgoo

  • @Gustavo_Favaro
    @Gustavo_Favaro Рік тому

    i love the Mercedes PU Sound, the downshifting is amazing.

  • @benitoclarke807
    @benitoclarke807 Рік тому +1

    I love this type of video

  • @gabriellapalavecino7605
    @gabriellapalavecino7605 Рік тому +1

    19:46 this sound 😍

  • @lumocre31
    @lumocre31 Рік тому

    ¡Gran vídeo!

  • @bruttomesso
    @bruttomesso Рік тому

    Great! But I keep thinking what that F2004 would do with slick tyres

  • @corpsecoder_nw6746
    @corpsecoder_nw6746 Рік тому

    Compared Kimi's 2005 Monaco pole lap to the 2019 (2020 slow corner performance was surprisingly slower than 2019 based on analysis of Spain sector 3) qualifying sector times from Monaco (currently the fastest overall lap) and the fastest final sector in 2019 was 18.667 by Hamilton in the 2019 Mercedes W10. Kimi Raikkonen with a tighter swimming pool chicane (albeit in this light, nimble, grippy, powerful car) did the final sector in 17.516 (1.151 seconds quicker over the final sector alone). This car was amazing in low speed corners.....and it had grooved tires that had to last a race distance as well. Imagine this on the 2019 or 2022 rubber (with the same wheel rims and stuff because that actually affects it quite a bit).....lovely.

  • @sutoruan4388
    @sutoruan4388 Рік тому +2

    Spa looks so much narrower in this verison, this is how spa should be!

  • @dustin_vincent9183
    @dustin_vincent9183 Рік тому

    The W11 is the best car ever build. i really think nothing will ever get close to it! would have loved to see in direct comparison where the 2022 cars would have been timewise :p but great video Tom!!!

  • @omerosman1280
    @omerosman1280 Рік тому

    the 2018 mercedes the w09 also took it flat in q2 before the rain...there is a video on it on youtube

  • @JayStephens8
    @JayStephens8 Рік тому

    Always find it weird how so many tracks f1 races on seem to have some sort of reconfiguration every handful of years

  • @jake-dk2iv
    @jake-dk2iv Рік тому

    could you do a sazuka hot lap vid comparing different cars

  • @cristianfasolini4932
    @cristianfasolini4932 Рік тому +1

    What steering wheel do you use?

  • @anteplibela
    @anteplibela Рік тому

    you could use a longer 7th gear with the RB since you have kers

  • @FlynnCameron
    @FlynnCameron Рік тому +1

    you should try that w11 on the kunos version of spa, I managed to get a 1:41.9 with a controller so i think you could get into the 1:40`s or 1:39`s
    I used 14, 15 wings and manual ERS, -2.7 camber front, -1.4 camber rear, lower ride hight, higher ARB front and rear and higher wheel rate front and rear
    last 3 change alot between different people and your the only person who knows how you like the suspension, dont lower suspension to much or you will shit yourself up eau rouge

  • @juanindojorgijanad782
    @juanindojorgijanad782 Рік тому

    I believe it's the Mercedes-AMG F1 W11, with V6 engine, 8-speed semi-auto quick gear, going faster than any Formula 1 car at the Spa-Francorchamps.

  • @Super-kid1886
    @Super-kid1886 Рік тому

    How do you get your T-cam like that?

  • @samson4779
    @samson4779 Рік тому

    wanna have ur graphic filter.. it looks so good and realistic like iracing

  • @F1__Maniac
    @F1__Maniac Рік тому

    Best version of Spa

  • @willyum6397
    @willyum6397 Рік тому

    i think sainz went through pouhon flat this year too

  • @tomnewton337
    @tomnewton337 Рік тому

    Didn't use any kers with the rb no?

  • @Wingbar
    @Wingbar Рік тому +1

    Hi Tom, how do you get these cars on AC? Do you need to buy them? I’m thinking about getting AC as well but just want to know how much I need to spend to race with F1 cars

    • @romeogagliotti7918
      @romeogagliotti7918 Рік тому

      In the description are the cars I see

    • @romeogagliotti7918
      @romeogagliotti7918 Рік тому

      And you can download other cars and tracks however you like at Racedepartment.com

    • @F-Man
      @F-Man Рік тому

      All of them with the exception of the F2004 are rips that use various assets of other people’s work without permission. Obtaining them is actually a violation of copyright law.

  • @bipbapthegrunt
    @bipbapthegrunt Рік тому

    That is like the bit in Miami

  • @Noshi64
    @Noshi64 Рік тому

    Hi Tom. Can you give me camera settings for ferrari?

  • @TommyS713
    @TommyS713 Рік тому +3

    I love the V8

  • @lazystairs
    @lazystairs Рік тому

    Please do the even older layout with masta

  • @sansundertale8516
    @sansundertale8516 Рік тому +15

    Get your under 5 minutes medal here

  • @QRT_Ryan
    @QRT_Ryan Рік тому

    Brilliant

  • @Speedworx
    @Speedworx Рік тому

    Old Osterreichring or Old Kyalami would be good if possible.

  • @JNST2023
    @JNST2023 Рік тому

    You should use V12 too for the next one, pleeeeeeeease

    • @Tom97
      @Tom97  Рік тому +1

      I would, but the V12's are just too slow, the V10's still hold up.

  • @Jake-mw6jg
    @Jake-mw6jg Рік тому

    Hey Tom I'm thinking of starting an F1 channel but I cant think of an original name and I have a really bad microphone
    What should I do?

    • @sansundertale8516
      @sansundertale8516 Рік тому +1

      Your name is not that bad Kakti F1 or Kakti racing but you need to get a New mic for sure not a mega qualşty one tho simce it will be New then you can improve

  • @D3rza
    @D3rza Рік тому

    I think that you could've gone for Hotlap mode on W11

    • @Tom97
      @Tom97  Рік тому

      Was close in terms of running out of energy.

  • @vonPelger
    @vonPelger Рік тому

    ok. now put DRS on F2004 and it should devour everything because the racepace was as fast as the qualy pace but the W11 has the racepace much slower

    • @successmojoman
      @successmojoman Рік тому

      Race pace was as fast as quality pace, because they were running with race fuel in Q3 lmao

  • @corpsecoder_nw6746
    @corpsecoder_nw6746 Рік тому

    the grip and downforce of 2020 despite being 33% heavier.....mad. Shame about the low speed grip, rate of direction change/rotational agility.

  • @MatusP91
    @MatusP91 Рік тому

    I have no engine sound in RB7 (only part where you talk)

  • @erpaderpa4469
    @erpaderpa4469 Рік тому

    Wtf is that red bar next to his throttle, not the brake one the other one

  • @D3rza
    @D3rza Рік тому +1

    What wheel do you use 😍

    • @qksf1645
      @qksf1645 Рік тому

      He is using Thrustmaster TS-PC racer with the Open Wheel Rim

  • @bipbapthegrunt
    @bipbapthegrunt Рік тому

    The new one is much better imo

  • @mohammadhosainusofimotlagh6168

    I'm actually glad they've change the bus stop , that's terrible 😩

  • @elvinrobertobardalesespino3434

    I prefer the old bus stop

  • @christellelemaire9749
    @christellelemaire9749 Рік тому

    Ouï accord pas soucis avec mon fiancé Charles Leclerc je te aime fort 💙🧡💜❤️

  • @SabotageDesigns
    @SabotageDesigns Рік тому

    your ffb is clipping a lot

  • @krizalidbrgaming6549
    @krizalidbrgaming6549 Рік тому

    The W11 is a monster, easily the fastest F1 car of all time.

  • @Gromit801
    @Gromit801 8 місяців тому

    This wasn’t the old Spa at all.

  • @pedropalotes6049
    @pedropalotes6049 Рік тому

    Mate, can you stop using ripped mods to do videos? Makes the AC mod community look bad.

    • @Tom97
      @Tom97  Рік тому

      Can you go into more detail?

  • @kioko1312
    @kioko1312 Рік тому

    the british accent... ew :u

  • @velocitaaa
    @velocitaaa Рік тому

    Direct link to the track: sharemods.com/2ap1zq2nmgd5/rmi_gtr2_spa2003_-_v1.20.zip.html :)