What he says about the spacing is actually not true, the system will always try to pick the least amount of sellers to decrease the amount of accounting that has to be made. In essence your chances of selling depend on the average amount that someone buys and number of people that sell the requested amount of gold. Taking this into account it's best to sell gold in logical units: 5$-2mil, 10$-4mil, 25$-10mil, 100$-40mil, 250$-100 mil. There are way more offers in the lower brackets so, sell big.
What you quote is out of context. Krippa makes perfect sense, no man can explain it any better. These guys not playing the games as we do, they are seeking the very mechanic of the game, which is a lot of work, but as a result they have information we do not have. Especially in D3, none of us can tell them any new information. Maybe you already knew that...
@hanekines in D2 we had runes as currency mostly. Gems in D3 won't be able to fill that gap since you van make them using good. What is more likely is that maybe a year down the drain people eho are still trading will be more inclined to use d2jsp again, which was the only proper way to trade in D2 aswell. :)
Telling me that I will quit the game soon and telling me that I am on the easiest of difficulties is rather negative and can "bring people down." And what can I do after Inferno? Challenge myself to farm my own gear for a tank wizard, or farm my own gear for a Barbarian to clear inferno in a different class. There's a few things you can do after the first Inferno clear, but not many.
You are wrong about the last statement, you can post all your gold in an auction and if for example you put up 100 mil and only 10 mil sells from that you get back your 90 mil and the money on the 10 mil sold.
Hey Kripp, please answer, this question might be important for a lot of us: Would it be better to invest all gold in good items now or is that too risky? I'm afraid that they will eventually buff the items and then all my items will lose a lot in value...
Not meant to accuse anyone of anything. First the burger, now the gold. I've been trying to sell my gold at RMAH at floor price for sometimes now, so far, 0 gold sold. Cheers, happy gaming.
Exactly! I played D2 for 2 years more, back in the day you could not complain and should not, you get the game and play it. I'm still playing Diablo3 since it's been out and loving it. This new generation of people will never be happy with what they have, they always complain :/
Krip, I commend you for still commenting on d3. As most people have completely left the game, you still put out our updates for d3. Even tthough you have obviously lost intererest, it shows me you care about your fans that you still are up to date on this stuff. (Way ahead of blizzard)
From what I've read blizzard takes a cut from the money of your items you sell.. Selling it at a lower price would mean you would make more money if you priced it to make up for profit cut.
Buying gold from the auction house is kind of ridiculous when third party websites will sell it for much much cheaper. Blizzard was quite intelligent when creating a limit on how low per million you can sell gold. Great way to battle illegal gold.
Gold is not dropping in value, items are. As such gold is actually more valuable as it can afford a better number of quality items on the gold auction house. Thats what is happening, ur good on hording gold. Not arguing that is just how it is.
Kripp---With the gold--people can buy in weird portions. For instance, I sold 17.5 million the other day. I got 4 strange e-mails of people buying different amounts (4 mil, 5 mil, 3.5, ect).
AH effects everyone in one way or another. AH was nerfing inferno, since some classes could get to a3 to farm with exploits and stuff. Then they posted the stuff, so you could get way better loot then you deserve. That made them very rich, wich started the inflation at the first time. The loot is system is based on the AH, the number of actually GOOD items are really small, since it would lessen the prices by a huge amount. The gameplay is fantastic but there is no content that lasts long enough
I'm not sure about the rmah but it looks like they take 15% off and then another 15% if you transfer it to paypal because he only got $180 for $250 of gold sold. Look at 0:36.
D2 had a reason though. Even D1 had a reason for it (although that was a LOT more PvP and anti-PvP based). His point still stands: there's nothing to do with gear you farm. On the other hand, he hasn't even experiences some of the best content the game has to offer, so he prolly got influenced by vids like kripp's even when they don't apply to him (yet).
Yeah, SWTOR was over after battlemaster set... not more than a month of fun. But in GW2 each server will have it's own structure and you can visit servers with your character, is not it?
They don't have to, since the legal way shouldn't be as cheap as the illegal way. For example in another game called TF2 there is Keys that cost 1.99 Euro or $2.5. People buy them alot from the game itself even tho players sell them for $1.3-1.4. Legel way should be more expensive since it's legal.
The game model of gold dropping off of mobs during regular gameplay and not much being done to remove said gold from the game except for repairs, the concept of inflation is relevant, thus the economy is rapidly inflating and has been since launch, thus gold will continue to decrease in value.
correction kripp: people should consider selling ALL their D3 items AND gold. Items are devaluing even faster than gold, to the point where only the top 0.001% of items will sell for more than a few dollars on the RMAH and everything else will go for peanuts.. case in point: I sold a 29% stormshield for only $29.99 today.. it would've gone for $150+ a month ago.. sell those mid-range items while you can, especially legendaries before1.0.4, their value is dropping fast as fuck.
What you can do is buy gold from farmers use it to buy items flip those items in rmah and make profit. Small amounts each time but you more than double the gold spent on the item.
It's all perspective, but yes, those busy playing the game aren't the ones trolling around in videos and forums about how bad the game is. Per my perspective, I am as much of a Diablo fan as anyone. It is far and away my favorite universe of any game franchise. D3 wasn't a huge letdown for me, but it definitely had shortcomings. Everyone... literally EVERYONE I know who purchased the game no longer plays. After they left, I too quit after losing 200+ hrs of HC to rubberbanding in two days.
I can assure u the floor will NEVER be dropped. As blizz are now cheapskates they wont. Every transaction has a transaction fee for blizz (paypal only credit card companies might do it to). now blizz gets 15% of the transaction if the floor is dropped suddenly they have to pay for people trading gold out of their own pocket. Bliz is no long in the gaming industry for gamers, they are in it for shareholders.
If people are selling gold cheaper on forums then it is on the rmah couldn't you just buy it from them then put it on the auction house to make profit?
I make money from Diablo3, plus its alright to log in, kill champ packs, get loots than go do something else. Having it as a second game to play for 30 minutes every day or two is fine. I've made 70 euros already, I think thats decent since I actually enjoyed the game at start, now i've made more back than the game costed, and I managed to buy another game for that money. The question is, why do you post stupid comments on youtube? Just a disappointment.
Last time I checked D3 was behind some casual games on twitch viewers count :) 3months after its release for a Blizzard game, thats quite a performance Blizzard lol.
hey, in EU ofc the floor of gold is the same as in US, but as i guess everyone should know atleast is that Euro got a higher value than US dollars, ive been trying to selling gold on eu for a long long looooong time but havent sold more than like 5m... ive started to bid on items that are really popular on gold ah to sell on rmah which makes me more profit than the gold, but as far as i have seen, Americans are easier up with their wallet to buy a bunch of "useless" crap for 50dollars..
what makes me rage is that the game content and the difficulty curve is build around the fact that lvl 60 is the max level and that is because RMAH, without lvling like 90-99 in d2 the game just doesnt make sense imho
I've played D1 and D2 a lot, but D3 can't hold me like it's predecessors. I don't blame that somebody still loves D3 or any other game like SWTOR, it's just not joyable for me anymore. And if I don't get what a game must give - I just don't play it.
because they can't. it's region restricted and most of the farmers/botters are in regions where there is no demand and excessive supply.. they have no real way of transferring the gold over to N.A. or Europe regions to sell them. Only real way i guess would be to sign up on North American servers to start.. they still can't sell them from these accounts.. but they can transfer the stuff to people located in N.A. and Europe who can sell them.
Well I'd assume, taking a rough sample from the number of likes you each have, that 10.7 (at time of comment) times more people share his opinion over yours? I'd love to see some active player numbers posted from blizzard about this game to prove any theories correct about the amount of players getting bored after just a month. Do you mind if I ask what about there is about the game that you love to keep you playing?
Thats like saying Bananas are good, fridges arent... completely different games, both are good in the aspects they focused on and these aspects are completely not comparable.
Krip , why should I listen to anything you day about diablo economy when you recomended "don't hold on to your gold, buy something now because the value is dropping daily" you said this at the PEAK of devalued gold. So if I listened to you then, I would have bought a way overpriced item with devalued gold (which is worth more now after the floor blizzard set)
Anybody still plays D3? I've just abandoned it like a month ago and feeling no pity. It's a good game, worth it's price, but you reach the non joy point too early. Really... gw2 is on 25.08, path of exile soon...
Can someone please tell me how it works in terms of selling gold. Is there a que of all the 400,000 and you get placed in it. Or if there is some one that wants 800,000 it takes 2 400,000 sells in the 400,000 que or is it taken from the 800,000 if there is such a thing.
PoE is way better than D3. I was excited for D3, and enjoyed it for a good week. The game is just too shallow. After the initial honeymoon phase with the game I went back to PoE, and I am damn glad I did.
Really? After 1K boss runs you can gear up 7 characters? You would need some insane drops for that to happen. For instance Griffon's Eye has I think around a 1 in 45,000 chance to drop from Hell Baal. That's one item for one character. D2 had much more of a grind. I honestly wonder how many people played D2 at the top level...
Sorry, I didn't mean that it was true, I meant that just more people on YT agreed with his opinion then yours. Is there anything you could recommend to make Diablo 3 more exciting to play as I got very bored of it very quickly in the game. I admit I did not get much progress into the game but all the gameplay videos I've watched of mid-end game content looks just as boring =/ Doesn't it bother you that anyone with a small tactic and almost no gear can solo the final boss in the hardest mode?
Im having fun playing this crapfest. I started a new monk and im not using either AH, merchants or the blacksmith or anything from my stash. Im still way OP halfway into nightmare and I find upgrades all the time. I do think hell is going to beva brick wall though.
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Thanks so much for giving so much back to a community that hasn't realy done much for you! Keep being awesome.
i really enjoy watching your videos. you're just yourself and dont go over the top and its really enjoyable!
1. Yes.
2. No listing limit, they can list however much gold they want at whatever price they want on a 3rd party site.
What he says about the spacing is actually not true, the system will always try to pick the least amount of sellers to decrease the amount of accounting that has to be made. In essence your chances of selling depend on the average amount that someone buys and number of people that sell the requested amount of gold. Taking this into account it's best to sell gold in logical units: 5$-2mil, 10$-4mil, 25$-10mil, 100$-40mil, 250$-100 mil. There are way more offers in the lower brackets so, sell big.
I just bought a POE beta key and am not disappointed at all. Highly recommended. Maybe D3 will be good in a year or so.
Well, can't tell before trying, already pre ordered and I think it will not be disappointing one.
What you quote is out of context. Krippa makes perfect sense, no man can explain it any better. These guys not playing the games as we do, they are seeking the very mechanic of the game, which is a lot of work, but as a result they have information we do not have. Especially in D3, none of us can tell them any new information. Maybe you already knew that...
@hanekines in D2 we had runes as currency mostly. Gems in D3 won't be able to fill that gap since you van make them using good. What is more likely is that maybe a year down the drain people eho are still trading will be more inclined to use d2jsp again, which was the only proper way to trade in D2 aswell. :)
Telling me that I will quit the game soon and telling me that I am on the easiest of difficulties is rather negative and can "bring people down." And what can I do after Inferno? Challenge myself to farm my own gear for a tank wizard, or farm my own gear for a Barbarian to clear inferno in a different class. There's a few things you can do after the first Inferno clear, but not many.
You are wrong about the last statement, you can post all your gold in an auction and if for example you put up 100 mil and only 10 mil sells from that you get back your 90 mil and the money on the 10 mil sold.
Hey Kripp, please answer, this question might be important for a lot of us: Would it be better to invest all gold in good items now or is that too risky? I'm afraid that they will eventually buff the items and then all my items will lose a lot in value...
I sold every little part of stuff and my whole gold already a week ago, got me 75$, directly invested into Path of Exile.
Not meant to accuse anyone of anything.
First the burger, now the gold.
I've been trying to sell my gold at RMAH at floor price for sometimes now, so far, 0 gold sold.
Cheers, happy gaming.
Exactly! I played D2 for 2 years more, back in the day you could not complain and should not, you get the game and play it. I'm still playing Diablo3 since it's been out and loving it. This new generation of people will never be happy with what they have, they always complain :/
Good suggestion Krippa, Well I use my gold mainly to craft anyway. So I'm not concern about the gold price.
Krip, I commend you for still commenting on d3. As most people have completely left the game, you still put out our updates for d3. Even tthough you have obviously lost intererest, it shows me you care about your fans that you still are up to date on this stuff. (Way ahead of blizzard)
From what I've read blizzard takes a cut from the money of your items you sell..
Selling it at a lower price would mean you would make more money if you priced it to make up for profit cut.
stopped playing D3 about a week ago. I tried to enjoy it as much as i can. i really did. It's just too bad that blizz fucked it up.
Buying gold from the auction house is kind of ridiculous when third party websites will sell it for much much cheaper. Blizzard was quite intelligent when creating a limit on how low per million you can sell gold. Great way to battle illegal gold.
I don't think they have to lower the floor. I mean the Illegal way is $1.07 but the legit way is $2.5
Gold is not dropping in value, items are. As such gold is actually more valuable as it can afford a better number of quality items on the gold auction house. Thats what is happening, ur good on hording gold. Not arguing that is just how it is.
Kripp---With the gold--people can buy in weird portions. For instance, I sold 17.5 million the other day. I got 4 strange e-mails of people buying different amounts (4 mil, 5 mil, 3.5, ect).
AH effects everyone in one way or another. AH was nerfing inferno, since some classes could get to a3 to farm with exploits and stuff. Then they posted the stuff, so you could get way better loot then you deserve. That made them very rich, wich started the inflation at the first time. The loot is system is based on the AH, the number of actually GOOD items are really small, since it would lessen the prices by a huge amount. The gameplay is fantastic but there is no content that lasts long enough
kinda difficult to do that when you don't have the gold to buy new gear so you don't die
I'm not sure about the rmah but it looks like they take 15% off and then another 15% if you transfer it to paypal because he only got $180 for $250 of gold sold. Look at 0:36.
D2 had a reason though.
Even D1 had a reason for it (although that was a LOT more PvP and anti-PvP based).
His point still stands: there's nothing to do with gear you farm.
On the other hand, he hasn't even experiences some of the best content the game has to offer, so he prolly got influenced by vids like kripp's even when they don't apply to him (yet).
Yeah, SWTOR was over after battlemaster set... not more than a month of fun.
But in GW2 each server will have it's own structure and you can visit servers with your character, is not it?
They don't have to, since the legal way shouldn't be as cheap as the illegal way. For example in another game called TF2 there is Keys that cost 1.99 Euro or $2.5. People buy them alot from the game itself even tho players sell them for $1.3-1.4. Legel way should be more expensive since it's legal.
Totally agree with you.
All the qq'ers and haters are complaining while the ppl that loves the game is playing it.
diablo 3 was great for a while, honeymoon period lasted a couple of months. havent logged on in weeks. poe ftw and tl2 also :)
Well I was planning on selling my gold soon but now that 40,000 people have watched this video I don't stand a chance.
The game model of gold dropping off of mobs during regular gameplay and not much being done to remove said gold from the game except for repairs, the concept of inflation is relevant, thus the economy is rapidly inflating and has been since launch, thus gold will continue to decrease in value.
correction kripp: people should consider selling ALL their D3 items AND gold.
Items are devaluing even faster than gold, to the point where only the top 0.001% of items will sell for more than a few dollars on the RMAH and everything else will go for peanuts.. case in point: I sold a 29% stormshield for only $29.99 today.. it would've gone for $150+ a month ago.. sell those mid-range items while you can, especially legendaries before1.0.4, their value is dropping fast as fuck.
What you can do is buy gold from farmers use it to buy items flip those items in rmah and make profit.
Small amounts each time but you more than double the gold spent on the item.
agreed im still only in act 2 on my barb because i havent mf'd the best gear yet and im not spending money on gold to buy it but im not complaining
It's all perspective, but yes, those busy playing the game aren't the ones trolling around in videos and forums about how bad the game is.
Per my perspective, I am as much of a Diablo fan as anyone. It is far and away my favorite universe of any game franchise. D3 wasn't a huge letdown for me, but it definitely had shortcomings. Everyone... literally EVERYONE I know who purchased the game no longer plays. After they left, I too quit after losing 200+ hrs of HC to rubberbanding in two days.
I am trying to sell 20 mil gold from when gold selling was enabled. 0.25 per 100k. So far I sold 7mil. That is what EU RMAH is like.
Why do you think Blizzard will drop the floor on gold when it's still selling on the RMAH?
Which one will I benefit better off. 1 x 100m or 10 x 10m? Or does the tax works out to be the same both ways?
I can assure u the floor will NEVER be dropped. As blizz are now cheapskates they wont. Every transaction has a transaction fee for blizz (paypal only credit card companies might do it to). now blizz gets 15% of the transaction if the floor is dropped suddenly they have to pay for people trading gold out of their own pocket. Bliz is no long in the gaming industry for gamers, they are in it for shareholders.
Now its $ 0.33 per mill, nice to look back at what was
d2 was great, i wish you could get legendaries in d3 at the rate of in d2 nuff said
blizzard cuts plus the fluctuation of an economy like diablo that is just so volatile I would not risk it and im assuming others feel the same.
Today was the first day that I didn't even go on forums to taste people's tears. I think I'm well and truly done with the game.
Thursday 5am to Saturday 5pm is 2dh12 not 1d12. So you would want to sell it on Friday 5am. Peace.
If people are selling gold cheaper on forums then it is on the rmah couldn't you just buy it from them then put it on the auction house to make profit?
Thank God I don't use GAH and RMAH. I won't have to worry about the Wall Street simulation.
I make money from Diablo3, plus its alright to log in, kill champ packs, get loots than go do something else. Having it as a second game to play for 30 minutes every day or two is fine. I've made 70 euros already, I think thats decent since I actually enjoyed the game at start, now i've made more back than the game costed, and I managed to buy another game for that money.
The question is, why do you post stupid comments on youtube?
Just a disappointment.
Just curious, you can sell your gold on the rmah in US but not in EU?
Last time I checked D3 was behind some casual games on twitch viewers count :) 3months after its release for a Blizzard game, thats quite a performance Blizzard lol.
more like items that are about 1% improvement over the previous you had, but cost 100x more.
hey, in EU ofc the floor of gold is the same as in US, but as i guess everyone should know atleast is that Euro got a higher value than US dollars, ive been trying to selling gold on eu for a long long looooong time but havent sold more than like 5m... ive started to bid on items that are really popular on gold ah to sell on rmah which makes me more profit than the gold, but as far as i have seen, Americans are easier up with their wallet to buy a bunch of "useless" crap for 50dollars..
If he gets people interested in gold more, he has the potential to make more money.
Nuff said.
What website was he checking the price of gold on?
You know, for science
im trying to do that atm, bought 10 mil at first for about 11 euros and now selling
LETS ALL PLAY PATH OF EXILE:
BETTER DEVELOPPERS = BETTER EVERYTHING
what makes me rage is that the game content and the difficulty curve is build around the fact that lvl 60 is the max level and that is because RMAH, without lvling like 90-99 in d2 the game just doesnt make sense imho
the prices at sec are in usa as europ becous lowest item u can buy i 1000M
The day9 of Diablo. Keep up the videos!
You clearly already bought the game so why not just play it an enjoy it. Nobody forces you to use the RMAH. The gameplay is absolutely fantastic.
there we go..now the floor is 25cent per million
I've played D1 and D2 a lot, but D3 can't hold me like it's predecessors.
I don't blame that somebody still loves D3 or any other game like SWTOR, it's just not joyable for me anymore.
And if I don't get what a game must give - I just don't play it.
because they can't. it's region restricted and most of the farmers/botters are in regions where there is no demand and excessive supply.. they have no real way of transferring the gold over to N.A. or Europe regions to sell them. Only real way i guess would be to sign up on North American servers to start.. they still can't sell them from these accounts.. but they can transfer the stuff to people located in N.A. and Europe who can sell them.
This is kinda funny...D3 could become the next stock market with so much discussion on value of gold to real money
Gold doesn't come easy to me, and I'm trying to fuel half a dozen characters. Not going to be selling gold any time soon. GG
woh woh woh stop the clock... Thought we were done playing D3 Mr Kripp
Yeah he's one of those guys thinking that when he quit the game everyone did and anyone who didn't is stupid because he knows best.
Kripp why didn't you sell all your gold for forum gold on jsp. I sold 10mil a long time ago, and that's almost worth 200mil worth now!
Only reason why EU > US is when you sell gold. US get $180, EU gets 180€. € is stronger then $
Well I'd assume, taking a rough sample from the number of likes you each have, that 10.7 (at time of comment) times more people share his opinion over yours? I'd love to see some active player numbers posted from blizzard about this game to prove any theories correct about the amount of players getting bored after just a month. Do you mind if I ask what about there is about the game that you love to keep you playing?
Thats like saying Bananas are good, fridges arent... completely different games, both are good in the aspects they focused on and these aspects are completely not comparable.
Looks like im staying up till thursday 5 am.
nearly noone buys gold in the ah, so it's a huge risk, especially when the really lower the floor.
I've sold over 30M on RMAH on 1 day. US or EU? I play EU
Krip , why should I listen to anything you day about diablo economy when you recomended "don't hold on to your gold, buy something now because the value is dropping daily" you said this at the PEAK of devalued gold. So if I listened to you then, I would have bought a way overpriced item with devalued gold (which is worth more now after the floor blizzard set)
15% transaction fee and 15% transfer fee on RMAH.
maybe even the arena pvp can turn into an e-sport like bloodline champions
True, the perception of wealth is only idealistic if everyone believes in it. I've already sold off my "gold" lol
I haven't compared them, understanding engrish = hard these days?
Anybody still plays D3?
I've just abandoned it like a month ago and feeling no pity. It's a good game, worth it's price, but you reach the non joy point too early.
Really... gw2 is on 25.08, path of exile soon...
so exactly how fun is this game again?
Can someone please tell me how it works in terms of selling gold. Is there a que of all the 400,000 and you get placed in it. Or if there is some one that wants 800,000 it takes 2 400,000 sells in the 400,000 que or is it taken from the 800,000 if there is such a thing.
Explain how it's false? It's been entirely proven that gold continues to lose value.
opinions, everyone has them
Octavian... only Kripp can be named after a Roman Caesar. Truth.
Why is the leveling/skill systems so bad in D3?
I played D2 for over 10 years and never got tired of leveling new chars.
cant you just buy 100M from a website for 107$ and then resell ad 250 per 100M?
PoE is way better than D3. I was excited for D3, and enjoyed it for a good week. The game is just too shallow. After the initial honeymoon phase with the game I went back to PoE, and I am damn glad I did.
Really? After 1K boss runs you can gear up 7 characters? You would need some insane drops for that to happen. For instance Griffon's Eye has I think around a 1 in 45,000 chance to drop from Hell Baal. That's one item for one character. D2 had much more of a grind. I honestly wonder how many people played D2 at the top level...
friday 5am, not thursday 5am
Its actually Friday at 5am not Thursday 5am...
still waiting as of now i'm done with that job. I quit. lol
So I'm going to buy D3 and buy tons of gold right before PvP, then sell it right after PvP comes out. I think I can make a shit ton of money that way.
Sorry, I didn't mean that it was true, I meant that just more people on YT agreed with his opinion then yours.
Is there anything you could recommend to make Diablo 3 more exciting to play as I got very bored of it very quickly in the game. I admit I did not get much progress into the game but all the gameplay videos I've watched of mid-end game content looks just as boring =/
Doesn't it bother you that anyone with a small tactic and almost no gear can solo the final boss in the hardest mode?
Just for u to know =] ... I live in Brazil and I really love your videos ... =]
Im having fun playing this crapfest. I started a new monk and im not using either AH, merchants or the blacksmith or anything from my stash. Im still way OP halfway into nightmare and I find upgrades all the time. I do think hell is going to beva brick wall though.
Check "My Experience With DDoS'ing" and Athenes video response.
I miss this Kripp. He probably still does amazing work but I can't stand hearthstone. I hope he focuses more on D4 when that comes out.
you pick a hero and then pew pew monsters
Hey Kripparian , hows it goin? Guys here.