There were a few Whistlerisms in this one, most notably "Messfistifflees" for Mephistopheles! For someone making a living from reading things out, he does make a mess of it sometimes! 😉
The fact there is no reference in this video to Louis Le Prince's "Roundhay Garden Scene", the oldest surviving film, from 1888, is jarring. Le Prince famously disappeared from a moving train in 1890, and this disappearance is unsolved to this day.....
The first full-length narrative film was 'The Story of The Kelly Gang, produced in 1906 in Australia. Unfortunately, only 17 minutes of the hour-long movie have survived over the years.
Lost media is an entire genre in and of itself and super frustrating because of how much gas been, well...lost, over the years. Either way it's a solid UA-cam rabbit hole for those insomnia-ridden nights when you inevitably wind up on the weird side of the internet
I was initially going to comment _Ugh, Simon you've covered this several times before!_ But I've never heard the background stories of the underlying characters. Kudos 👏. Once again Fact Boi, you amazed me!
Why was there no reference to 'The Story of the Kelly Gang'? It was a one hour movie produced in Australia in 1906, of which 17 minutes remain. In 2007 'The Story of the Kelly Gang' was inscribed on the UNESCO Memory of the World Register for being the world's first full-length narrative feature film.
I've never understood how people didn't know that horses leave the ground at a gallop... You can literally hear the difference in hoof beats 😂 glad they couldn't though I suppose given what came from it
As usual, Mr. Whistler, great content. Is there a facet of life that you don't have a channel for, as your total production ethic would break most hardened UA-camrs.
This video completely ignores the work of Louis Le Prince who captured moving images before the Lumiere brothers. His work wasn’t as famous as Edisons though and Le Prince disappeared before he was able to publicly show his work. This disappearance was allegedly organised by Edison.
No one really knows what happened to Le Prince. Its shocking really. It's as if he just vanished out of thin air on a moving train. Many theories exist but there has been no conclusive evidence, and his disappearance is unsolved to this day. It IS a travesty that Simon doesn't mention him AT ALL in this video.....
@@JadisAmalthea It could be a perfect story for his Decoding the Unknown channel. Why did Le Prince vanish before his ground breaking invention could be revealed to the world and why is Edison involved in so many strange happenings around new inventions.
It's interesting. The Wachowski Bullet Time for The Matrix is done the same way. It's not a movie camera, it's 30-40 single cameras that fire in succession. :)
I seen this bet on "Bat Masterson" TV show. but I think Masterson used up to 10 camera boxes to show that in a full run, all 4 of the horse's hoofs off the ground. Kool.
A couple of extra bits in relation to all this: #1 "Midnight Cowboy" is the only "X"-rated film to win the Academy Award for Best Picture. #2. The film studio that T. Edison built was constructed on a giant turntable that could rotate the whole building. This was done, along with a large section of the roof that could be opened, in order to orientate the studio with the motion of the sun thereby maintaining the light inside during filming.
...they couldn't tell from hoofprints? I mean, I'm guessing, like, no, but, I'm not really sure why. Sure, the front hoofers and the rear hoofers probably end up on top of each other, but it's not going to be exact and it wouldn't be all that hard to make up horse-shoes that could identify which were what. As a speedcow rider I mean I find it difficult to believe this wasn't known - you can tell when the speedcow is airbourne when you're on it, and this corresponds with the silent pause in the clip-cloppery. Sounds exactly the same as when you take a jump.
@@CourtneyCoulson The cat's name is Mr. Mistoffelees, because he was probably named by the child in the family, who didn't get it quite right, but it did get the "toff" emphasis right. But yes, I always think of him too when I see or hear the name Mephistopheles :)
Seeing a black and white movie that's going at a solid 7 fps of people running around the moon with no vacuum survival gear seems so innocent like a baby, "awwwwww, look, he thought the gravity was the same and that there's air pressure and even oxygen out there. Isn't he adorable?"
The" Soldiers of the cross", a silent, Made by the Salvation Army in Australia= I challenge anyone to prove me wrong. Merry Christmas & peaceful holidays to all.
As we’ve learned during the Darrel Brooks trial, in the words of the great and honorable Judge Dorrow, juries don’t have the right to nullify but they do have the power.
I was looking for a comment relating to the Brooks case. I didn't watch the whole trial, nor did I understand his point in that regard, but I do remember gist of his conversation with the judge.
@@davidhunt6508 he was trying to tell the jury that even tho they all know and he knows he broke the law they should just disregard that and find him not guilty. There is not getting his argument cause it makes no sense!
Muybridge's experiment also helped to answer the question of why, when a horse gallops, one hears only three hoofbeats per step, rather than four. (The answer is that two of the four hooves strike the ground at the same time, producing the sound of a single hoofbeat.) One question still remains unanswered: why Muybridge's first name is spelled "Eadweard." Seriously...I'm surprised that Factboi didn't pronounce it "Eed-Weird." 😉😁
Did the script repeatedly use the term "video camera" or did keep Simon reading it wrong? Certainly the photographic movie cameras of the time were not "video."
There's a very interesting documentary about film ratings called "This Film Is Not Yet Rated." It came out in 2006, so I'm not sure if the MPAA have changed their practices since then, but the documentary shines a light on how ridiculous the US's rating system is. At the time of its filming, every movie rating in the country was decided by a panel of something like eight or ten people, whose identities were withheld from the public. It addresses other absurdities as well, like how a PG-13 movie can be full of violence (think "Taken"), while a thoughtful, poignant film about familial relationships gets an R rating because the word "f*ck" is heard three times, and movies rated PG-13 are only allowed two "f*cks" . . . and only if it's used as an exclamation (stubs toe, yells "F*CK!"), not in a sexual manner ("Did you f*ck my best friend?!"). Oh, and as for killings; Liam Neeson can murder the shit out of 97 bad guys as long as it happens "off screen." Some thug will be cornered in an open elevator, fall to the ground, then weep and beg for his life while Neeson stands in the doorway, slowly lifts a handgun and points it straight at the thug's head. The camera starts to pan left as Neeson snarls one final (presumably badass) quip. Just as the thug exits frame entirely, a gunshot rings out and the lens zooms in on Good Guy's scowl. Sure, it was "off screen," but that sombitch just got shot in the damn face! But god forbid little Timmy sees a boob! (Unless it's a classy boob, like Rose in Titanic. That's a nonsexual PG-13 titty, obviously!) Anyway, you get the point.
@@willmfrank Omg how do you have this intel?! ETA, is this you?? If it’s Peter ‘The Pot Plant’ then sod off, I hate you and your smug over all demeanor. I have no time for such a bad attitude plant. ETA however, let’s rack some line, burnt titanium style. P.s tell Simon his studio decor is SUBPAR, and quite frankly, an insult to one’s sense of beauty. #DoBetterSimon!!
Since others have pointed out Mephistopheles, I will point out that Edison's theater should have been pronounced like Mariah, not Maria, but it is spelled like Maria, so I can't blame him for that one.
“Remember what the MPAA says; Horrific, Deplorable violence is okay, as long as people don't say any naughty woids! That's what this war is all about!” -South Park
I had no idea that Jury nullification was an actual thing in America. If they ever catch me, I'm going to ask for a jury. I guess I will need a bunch of politically connected, extremely rich friends too. This is America after all.
Matters where you are if it's a state trial. It's Commonwealth states do that. Judge can override jury. You have choice of judge alone or judge and jury. Just look up each state. Republic govt based or southern states tend to let jury decisions stand with some writing it into their state constitutions
Really cool 😎. I saw a short Alice in wonderland film from the early 1900's. It was obviously terrible quality compared to today's standards but very impressive for the era and wonderfully creepy! Tfs and have a great day
Note: If she’ll cheat on the last guy with you, she’ll cheat on you with the next guy. Edit: wow, he predicted MTV a hundred years before it came about.
OMG... I need my eyes checked... I thought the title was "What was the best movie ever?" I began watching to see what criteria were used to judge this. :D
They were owned by rich people as they ard today and did more or less the same thing, sometimes going as far as to invent or distort news to sell more papers.
@@alanknewman4294 "The yellow press, led by William Randolph Hearst and Joseph Pulitzer, proprietors of the New York Journal and the New York World, took every opportunity to inflame the situation with the exhortation to ‘Remember the Maine’, publicise the alleged cruelties of Spanish repression and encourage a belligerent hunger for action."
Call me a nasty old man, but I couldn't help notice how the horses tail coif allows for a gentle anus brushing with each stride. Peak Race Performance encouragement?
Pornography always picked up technical innovations. It was "dirty" pictures for I don't know how long, but when printing, movies, home video, online pictures & video came, pornography was right there.
@@tubensalat1453 That makes sense. Now the only other question I have is why do most humans as a species like to watch other humans have sex? I could be wrong but I personally haven't seen any other animal species do that.
@@DeOneTrueSage Wiring. I guess watching sex makes things fire in the reward center. And if it is in brain parts we acquired later and animals don't have, it could explain the difference.
I really hope that with the spread of streaming services cinemas and TV will die out, and they finally abandon this hypocrite censorship system. Nice introduction to the birth of movies, and good stories, BTW.
The first films made that we know about were a horse running and a bunch of weird porn. The first long silent movie to hit theaters in the u.s. was white power propaganda. Todays cinema is more wholesome but still dumb.
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There were a few Whistlerisms in this one, most notably "Messfistifflees" for Mephistopheles! For someone making a living from reading things out, he does make a mess of it sometimes! 😉
You really need to work on your MISpronounciations.
Ya had A LOT of'em Today...........
The fact there is no reference in this video to Louis Le Prince's "Roundhay Garden Scene", the oldest surviving film, from 1888, is jarring. Le Prince famously disappeared from a moving train in 1890, and this disappearance is unsolved to this day.....
The first full-length narrative film was 'The Story of The Kelly Gang, produced in 1906 in Australia. Unfortunately, only 17 minutes of the hour-long movie have survived over the years.
Whistling Simon has confirmed
Yes, Ned Kelly was the subject of the first movie.
Lost media is an entire genre in and of itself and super frustrating because of how much gas been, well...lost, over the years.
Either way it's a solid UA-cam rabbit hole for those insomnia-ridden nights when you inevitably wind up on the weird side of the internet
Watched a documentary about him just a few days ago
I was initially going to comment _Ugh, Simon you've covered this several times before!_ But I've never heard the background stories of the underlying characters. Kudos 👏. Once again Fact Boi, you amazed me!
8:05 dang...they should make a movie about that.
Why was there no reference to 'The Story of the Kelly Gang'?
It was a one hour movie produced in Australia in 1906, of which 17 minutes remain.
In 2007 'The Story of the Kelly Gang' was inscribed on the UNESCO Memory of the World Register for being the world's first full-length narrative feature film.
I've never understood how people didn't know that horses leave the ground at a gallop... You can literally hear the difference in hoof beats 😂 glad they couldn't though I suppose given what came from it
I'm missing something there too. They could have just looked at a horse running,rt?
@@drphosferrous Your eyes can't keep up. Just like when you see helicopter blades, it is all just a blur.
@@bobthegoat7090 just move your eyes quick for a sec like counting fan blades. It totally works try it.
Comparing horses running to hellicopter blades is a bit much, m8, horses walk as well
As usual, Mr. Whistler, great content. Is there a facet of life that you don't have a channel for, as your total production ethic would break most hardened UA-camrs.
Yeah. Still waiting on his porn channel 😔 😂
"Sponsored by squarespace" 😂
What about Louie La Prince?
You missed one?
This video completely ignores the work of Louis Le Prince who captured moving images before the Lumiere brothers.
His work wasn’t as famous as Edisons though and Le Prince disappeared before he was able to publicly show his work. This disappearance was allegedly organised by Edison.
No one really knows what happened to Le Prince. Its shocking really. It's as if he just vanished out of thin air on a moving train. Many theories exist but there has been no conclusive evidence, and his disappearance is unsolved to this day. It IS a travesty that Simon doesn't mention him AT ALL in this video.....
@@JadisAmalthea It could be a perfect story for his Decoding the Unknown channel. Why did Le Prince vanish before his ground breaking invention could be revealed to the world and why is Edison involved in so many strange happenings around new inventions.
@@JadisAmalthea Simons done it. The video is up on Decoding the Unknown.
@@SquirrelArmyStudios2015 Yes, I have since watched that video! It was excellent!!!
Love Simon's delivery of the trivia in this video
Agreed totally, his research and delivery is quite literally why I watch most all his channels.
Thank you , a very interesting subject , very well presented !
33:24 "Jaws" was released in 1975.
Lol🤣😂at Simon pronouncing ‘Mephistopheles!’🤣😂
It's interesting. The Wachowski Bullet Time for The Matrix is done the same way. It's not a movie camera, it's 30-40 single cameras that fire in succession. :)
19:56 Muybridge: "In the not too distant future"
Next Sunday A.D.?
I seen this bet on "Bat Masterson" TV show. but I think
Masterson used up to 10 camera boxes to show that in
a full run, all 4 of the horse's hoofs off the ground. Kool.
That was actually pretty cool, thank you for producing this video.
A couple of extra bits in relation to all this: #1 "Midnight Cowboy" is the only "X"-rated film to win the Academy Award for Best Picture. #2. The film studio that T. Edison built was constructed on a giant turntable that could rotate the whole building. This was done, along with a large section of the roof that could be opened, in order to orientate the studio with the motion of the sun thereby maintaining the light inside during filming.
Imagine an early Whistler movie. A great wurlitzer with oompahs in the background 🤣🤣
...they couldn't tell from hoofprints? I mean, I'm guessing, like, no, but, I'm not really sure why. Sure, the front hoofers and the rear hoofers probably end up on top of each other, but it's not going to be exact and it wouldn't be all that hard to make up horse-shoes that could identify which were what.
As a speedcow rider I mean I find it difficult to believe this wasn't known - you can tell when the speedcow is airbourne when you're on it, and this corresponds with the silent pause in the clip-cloppery. Sounds exactly the same as when you take a jump.
I agree. I've only ridden a few times and galloped once and I swear you could feel the horse was off the ground. Edit: I love the term speedcow
When I (shortly) reach Muybridge's age I hope to be as sinewy and athletic and unabashed about themselves.
This was fascinating 😀
Thank you
Mephistopheles is actually pronounced with emphasis on the "toph" rather than the "phe"
Bless him for trying. There is a character in Cats the Musical with the name Mr. Mephistopheles, that's a good example of the correct pronunciation.
@@CourtneyCoulson The cat's name is Mr. Mistoffelees, because he was probably named by the child in the family, who didn't get it quite right, but it did get the "toff" emphasis right. But yes, I always think of him too when I see or hear the name Mephistopheles :)
@@ElaMongrella The naming of cats is a difficult matter; it isn't just one of your holiday games...
@@willmfrank You may think at first, I'm as mad as a hatter, when I tell you a cat must have three different names
Anyone else think “The Legion of Decency” sounds like the next group supervillains?😂
Loved it! "Meh-fih-STOFF-ih-lees". I'm a stickler about pronunciation!
No offense intended . Much love, Roberta Sirgutz
I hope this video answers who the first movie star was as well. Fingers crossed!
Tom Cruise
Seeing a black and white movie that's going at a solid 7 fps of people running around the moon with no vacuum survival gear seems so innocent like a baby, "awwwwww, look, he thought the gravity was the same and that there's air pressure and even oxygen out there. Isn't he adorable?"
The" Soldiers of the cross", a silent, Made by the Salvation Army in Australia= I challenge anyone to prove me wrong.
Merry Christmas & peaceful holidays to all.
me before Simon presents the question: i know what it is.
Everybody else: And we care that you know because...?
As we’ve learned during the Darrel Brooks trial, in the words of the great and honorable Judge Dorrow, juries don’t have the right to nullify but they do have the power.
I was looking for a comment relating to the Brooks case. I didn't watch the whole trial, nor did I understand his point in that regard, but I do remember gist of his conversation with the judge.
@@davidhunt6508 he was trying to tell the jury that even tho they all know and he knows he broke the law they should just disregard that and find him not guilty. There is not getting his argument cause it makes no sense!
Muybridge's experiment also helped to answer the question of why, when a horse gallops, one hears only three hoofbeats per step, rather than four. (The answer is that two of the four hooves strike the ground at the same time, producing the sound of a single hoofbeat.)
One question still remains unanswered: why Muybridge's first name is spelled "Eadweard."
Seriously...I'm surprised that Factboi didn't pronounce it "Eed-Weird." 😉😁
Did the script repeatedly use the term "video camera" or did keep Simon reading it wrong? Certainly the photographic movie cameras of the time were not "video."
Yes it did. Too much reliance on a thesaurus without the required knowledge.
Happy Thanksgiving to Simon; and everyone! 🙏🥧🍗🦃😊
There's a very interesting documentary about film ratings called "This Film Is Not Yet Rated." It came out in 2006, so I'm not sure if the MPAA have changed their practices since then, but the documentary shines a light on how ridiculous the US's rating system is. At the time of its filming, every movie rating in the country was decided by a panel of something like eight or ten people, whose identities were withheld from the public. It addresses other absurdities as well, like how a PG-13 movie can be full of violence (think "Taken"), while a thoughtful, poignant film about familial relationships gets an R rating because the word "f*ck" is heard three times, and movies rated PG-13 are only allowed two "f*cks" . . . and only if it's used as an exclamation (stubs toe, yells "F*CK!"), not in a sexual manner ("Did you f*ck my best friend?!"). Oh, and as for killings; Liam Neeson can murder the shit out of 97 bad guys as long as it happens "off screen." Some thug will be cornered in an open elevator, fall to the ground, then weep and beg for his life while Neeson stands in the doorway, slowly lifts a handgun and points it straight at the thug's head. The camera starts to pan left as Neeson snarls one final (presumably badass) quip. Just as the thug exits frame entirely, a gunshot rings out and the lens zooms in on Good Guy's scowl. Sure, it was "off screen," but that sombitch just got shot in the damn face!
But god forbid little Timmy sees a boob! (Unless it's a classy boob, like Rose in Titanic. That's a nonsexual PG-13 titty, obviously!)
Anyway, you get the point.
I highly recommend the biopic Eadweard with Michael Eklund to learn more about Muybridge
Interesting video. Nice work.
Ah, so the footage of the horse in your vid must be the wood cutting, cuz it's so conspicuously free of a background
This was an incredible story
It would make a great movie! The irony!
And to think a horse is the reason I'm watching this video today.
Did the video or title change?
It takes a serious level of stupid to not credit a man who can literally get away with murder.
Simon, did you finally pay Danny more? Because this was a rather exceptional episode.
Danny Salter didn't write this one; it was co-written by Daven Hiskey and Matt Blitz.
@@willmfrank Omg how do you have this intel?! ETA, is this you?? If it’s Peter ‘The Pot Plant’ then sod off, I hate you and your smug over all demeanor.
I have no time for such a bad attitude plant. ETA however, let’s rack some line, burnt titanium style.
P.s tell Simon his studio decor is SUBPAR, and quite frankly, an insult to one’s sense of beauty. #DoBetterSimon!!
@@boldandthebeautifulgimbal2881 The credits at the end of the video give the names of the co-writers.
@@willmfrank There is? Huh. Well I still don’t like Peter, f&@k that plant and BRING BACK ETA!!!
Ladies and gentlemen welcome to today's Casual Criminalist.😉
The real question is why nobody even pays attention to the ratings...
Since others have pointed out Mephistopheles, I will point out that Edison's theater should have been pronounced like Mariah, not Maria, but it is spelled like Maria, so I can't blame him for that one.
the first movie is lost or someone has it somewhere. this maybe second movie
I thought the first movie was Pam and Tommy’s?! 😂😂😂
Despite Rodin being a great artist he also was quite stupid to call his work reality and photographs a lie. 😎
He was just scared of something he didn't understand.
To think, the horse in motion movie was originally made just to prove a point
“Remember what the MPAA says; Horrific, Deplorable violence is okay, as long as people don't say any naughty woids! That's what this war is all about!”
-South Park
And no female nipples.
I had no idea that Jury nullification was an actual thing in America.
If they ever catch me, I'm going to ask for a jury.
I guess I will need a bunch of politically connected, extremely rich friends too.
This is America after all.
Matters where you are if it's a state trial. It's Commonwealth states do that. Judge can override jury. You have choice of judge alone or judge and jury. Just look up each state. Republic govt based or southern states tend to let jury decisions stand with some writing it into their state constitutions
There is no power structure behind the curtain.
Really cool 😎. I saw a short Alice in wonderland film from the early 1900's. It was obviously terrible quality compared to today's standards but very impressive for the era and wonderfully creepy! Tfs and have a great day
Oh Rhodin 🤦♀️
Note: If she’ll cheat on the last guy with you, she’ll cheat on you with the next guy.
Edit: wow, he predicted MTV a hundred years before it came about.
🎶 In the not-too-distant future... 🎶
I don't think I've ever heard someone so completely mispronounce Mephistopheles. Heheh... Well, I was amused by it anyway.
He also mispronounced Lumiere, Maria and Robert Houdin.
OMG... I need my eyes checked... I thought the title was "What was the best movie ever?" I began watching to see what criteria were used to judge this. :D
I Drink Your Blood was the first film to receive an X rating based solely on violence and not nudity.
Matters what one means by a movie.
Justifiable homicide and innocence because of insanity in a Venn Diagram with Muybridge in the middle?
For me, the Cinematic release of "HE-MAN" with Dolph Lundgren made me HATE the Franchise...
The Legion of Decency sounds like a cheesy religious comic book spoof.
"you might be wondering where the rating system comes from" here it is, 26 minutes in: ua-cam.com/video/oLhEiMZ3mFo/v-deo.html
In America was known as the flying horse
Jaws came out in 1975. Not 1977.
It's a shame the press aren't as scrupulous today as they were back then, harder to buy back then I suppose...
They were owned by rich people as they ard today and did more or less the same thing, sometimes going as far as to invent or distort news to sell more papers.
@@aaronaaronsen3360 where did you read that, the news papers...
@@alanknewman4294 "The yellow press, led by William Randolph Hearst and Joseph Pulitzer, proprietors of the New York Journal and the New York World, took every opportunity to inflame the situation with the exhortation to ‘Remember the Maine’, publicise the alleged cruelties of Spanish repression and encourage a belligerent hunger for action."
The first ever movie was Morbius. It was written and directed by a Pervatasaurus.
How old is Simon? Is he very old?
What does he know? Does he know things? Let's find out!
He's an immaterial being entirely made of one and zeros, the internet prophet, Factboius Prime.
Some say he is the love child of Chad Hurley and Susan Wojcicki...All we know is he's called the Factboi!
Approval of the catholic church eh? There's an irony... :P
I'm sure not long after this the first adult film was made lol
Call me a nasty old man, but I couldn't help notice how the horses tail coif allows for a gentle anus brushing with each stride. Peak Race Performance encouragement?
WTF Royal Society! Have they apologized? I wonder how many other things they missed by being assholes?
Hey, now...Don't call them "assholes." They're British!
...
Use the British term "Arseholes." 😉😁
Why does the presenter never wear a tie?
What an odd question.
Because he has a beard and glasses
21:27 I cannot be the first "video" ANYTHING. Video is the ELECTRONIC form of a motion picture. Video recording did not exist until the 1950s.
I assume it was a skin flick naturally. 0.1 fps = the best ;P
Why did you completely ignore Louis Le Prince?
why do you keep saying video. Film is not video....
.@34:min...
..do your best impression of Paul Harvey,..
Oh! There are stolen ideas in this video. Of course Edison pops up.
Factboi, don't mess with the Hay's Code for UA-cam. All Hail the Algorithm! Allegedly. Cheers
I'm going to be honest, I honestly would like to know what is the origin of pornography that made it became what it is today.
Pornography always picked up technical innovations. It was "dirty" pictures for I don't know how long, but when printing, movies, home video, online pictures & video came, pornography was right there.
@@tubensalat1453 That makes sense. Now the only other question I have is why do most humans as a species like to watch other humans have sex? I could be wrong but I personally haven't seen any other animal species do that.
@@DeOneTrueSage Wiring. I guess watching sex makes things fire in the reward center. And if it is in brain parts we acquired later and animals don't have, it could explain the difference.
I really hope that with the spread of streaming services cinemas and TV will die out, and they finally abandon this hypocrite censorship system.
Nice introduction to the birth of movies, and good stories, BTW.
The first films made that we know about were a horse running and a bunch of weird porn. The first long silent movie to hit theaters in the u.s. was white power propaganda. Todays cinema is more wholesome but still dumb.
i did.
first
Why did TGC+ change names?? I will never remember the new name but I will never forget TGC+.