Thing is He is one. These little Alien quite explained They are miracle to Human world for sometime. While Catherine Is Succubus. So that is consider normal to have Catherine : Demon Katherine : Human Qaterine : Angel
Ryu The Keeper Rin and Catherine are both aliens when you think about it, just different species of extraterrestrial, but with more Rick and Morty type vibes (as in the two being from modern civilizations who are actually ordinary by modern standards).
@@Xxsorafan I dont think you understand what the game was saying. According to this game there are no angels. The entire conception of angels was from these aliens and their special suit they wore that look like how we imagine them. They essentially are the angels we know in disguise truly being aliens. So basically, Rin is an angel who are actually aliens.
Tbh I used to hate Catherine but the new ending really got me. She didn't want him for sex or seduction atlus showed that she has a lighter side and can be a devoted partner. Love that.
I think New Catherine's ending is the best because nobody really died thanks to Catherine growing up in highschool with Vincent and not seducing any men for Dumuzid.
But doesn't that mean that they didn't have the nightmares, then? Does that mean Catherine erased Mutton from existance? Damn! I guess the lesson here is, if you are a demigod walking the earth and are tasked with making weak men suffer, never employ a succubus!
Aahh yes. The classic anime cliche where they draw a girl and make her feminine af but call her a boy. Thats pretty much Rin here. Altho I did like Rin as a character. I feel like she distracts from the main story rather than adding anything. Personally, my favorite ending would be Catherine's new true ending where she changes the past to just be with Vincent. And I can't believe that Katerine's New Ending is even worse than Vanilla's Bad Endings, I mean, this one was so toxic for Vincent. Ironically, Catherine's New Ending has become my favorite one by far.
@@sebastianjoseph6728 I actually think Rin has added some meaningful story. Unlike Catherine and Katherine in the main plot, Rin never demands anything from Vincent. His love is selfless where Catherine and Katherine's are selfish. He accepts Vincent for the way he is and never once ask that he change for him. The fact that he's a boy reflects this perspective onto Vincent, who instead of wishing him to change (wishing him to be a girl), accepts Rin as he is. Vincent ends up loving him because he wants to, not because of an obligation to a moral compass (Katherine) or because he resents his current life (Catherine). I think the new Katherine ending is a Bad Ending, actually. Vincent cheats on her and she moves on, leaving him. I just like the new Catherine ending over any of Katherine's endings because the writers showed that she's willing to sacrifice a part of herself for Vincent, as any sort of love demands. The incentive for choosing Katherine as a love interest is that she deserves a good man (which is true), but it doesn't impact me the same way a demon going back in time to redeem herself does :D Sorry for the long write-up. Catherine has been one of my favorite games since the original came out.
@@holly9096 No need to apologize. Lol I love hearing other people's perspectives and opinions. But personally, I prefer Catherine's new true ending which surprised me considering that she is a succubus and despite that, she's willing to go back in time to just be with Vincent. Not to mention change herself and marry Vincent in the process. Katherine's new true ending turned her out to be a toxic, shallow and fame hungry chick. Yeah, I'd take Catherine over that anyday. As for Rin, as much as I loved Rin as a character, I feel like she disracts from the original two Katherine and Catherine and it seemed like the story was more focussed on her compared to the other two without her adding anything meaningful since she's always the innocent goody two shoes who's going to support Vincent no matter what. Like there's no form of conflict when it comes to Rin like there is in the other two. You'll get a good ending with Rin no matter what you choose if you take the Rin route that is. I laughed my ass off when it was revealed that she was a trap and whats even more laughable are SJWs who are ignorant to anime culture thinking that Rin being a boy is supposed to be some of LGBT representation. XD
Whatever your sexuality or tastes are you can not deny that rins character was written really well. I legit almost forgot technically this would be a gay relationship. I saw it as two people just being in love for being themselves. I’m still on the Catherine boat but well done atlus with their writing on rin.
I don't consider Rin as a male since it is an alien and is mono gendered. I mean when Rin's "brother" appeared in front of them, that figure talked in a dominant male voice but the minion form of Rin's "brother" talked in childish female voice so, it indicates Rin and those aliens can morph into anything they wish to be.
Subhankar Baral yeah I know but the game tries to push rin as a male for its message so I just call rin a male for the sake of it. I don’t really get into the whole classification of genders cause that’s just a whole headache to get through. Especially for people who really shouldn’t do it but do it anyway.
@@subhankarbaral9236 You do realize that male characters have had female voice actors since probably the dawn of anime right? Rins brothers having “female voices” doesn’t indicate anything. There is no indication that Rin has anything other than his “true form” and the human form. if that were the case, it would have been stated. The “indication” you’re seeing is just your headcanon because you don’t want to accept that Rin and her brothers are guys.
@@subhankarbaral9236 BTW in the jp version, Rin’s brothers don’t sound female in their true form. They sound like chipmunks. Rins ending in JP is on UA-cam if you want to watch it
I think Vincent going to Space to become Spike Spiegel, or becoming a Hollywood Mogul Producer are fine. Either one. Long as he's happy. And even though it's not choosing to be by himself, at least he still gets to go to Space!
nooberstone I like that ending too, especially how they were on a giant eco spaceship the whole time but over the course of the game it never goes into it...just decides to reveal it in that ending XD
And Katherine Proved to be the bitch we all knew she was, she's even treating Paul like shit in Catherine's new ending. Maybe she wasn't such a bitch 5 years ago, but she is now.
Wait. If Erica's the redhead at 4:26 I'm really surprised. Idk, I never played this game and I never wondered about how she looked before transitioning.
My personal favorite is Katherine's ending. She was like... I don't need no man to make me happy! I'M FINE ON MY OWN!!! She finally saw her own worth and that's truly *beautiful*
@@Cakemarvelous That's not what I'm saying AT ALL. I was just saying that it was extremely cool to see what Erica looked like as Eric. I prefer Erica 1000000% over Eric anytime of the day.
I did all wrong looking the dlc. I always tought that katherine was just a cute girl, or maybe is better to say woman, she was totally in love with vincent, hates his childish acting because she wants to live with him forever and grow with him. I always tought that catherine was just a succubus that has a crush for a human, never belived something like this, she literally changed the past because she loves him...and she's also goddammed cute
idk about you but the True Rin ending is probably the best one? Vincent gets to go with his dreams and become super rich and famous and tour with his girl. Being a demon god is cool and the space one too. The Kathrine true ending was the best ending, but for her, probably because damn. -
@@WeaponXSigma to my knowledge, it was literally only a single line of dialogue that was changed from the PS3 / 360 / PC version. It was Vincent saying to Erica "I would be more convinced if a woman was telling me this" being changed to "Oh come on." People are really overblowing this, it's such a negligible change that doesn't affect the story at all. People should be actually upset that the Shin Megami Tensei tracks were removed from the Jukebox, lol.
@@CJojo_13_ Wait, THAT was what people are going up in arms about? At least we know why the ResetEra half are bitching about it and for that, I'll gladly collect their tears then make like Nelson from the Simpsons and laugh while pointing at them but the other half needs to calm down as thats not something to go up in arms about
The ONLY way to achieve this in game is to stay in the middle of the meter. I thought these were the bad ending cause I thought I answered the questions wrong for true freedom, but seeing these alternate endings was even more worth it. Catherine’s Ending was better than Katherine(it was cringy af lol)
I'm glad that Catherine had a better ending. Was sort of sad that it's the whole "hell aspect", than just a normal life. It's crazy that it travels back in the highschool one though
Catherine looks like Ann Katherine looks like Sae Toby looks like Ryuji Rin looks like Haru Erica looks like Makoto Jonny looks like Yusuke And I still have no idea why.
Aahh yes. The classic anime cliche where they draw a girl and make her feminine af but call her a boy. Thats pretty much Rin here. Altho I did like Rin as a character. I feel like she distracts from the main story rather than adding anything. Personally, my favorite ending would be Catherine's new true ending where she changes the past to just be with Vincent. And I can't believe that Katerine's New Ending is even worse than Vanilla's Bad Endings, I mean, this one was so toxic for Vincent. Ironically, Catherine's New Ending has become my favorite one by far.
@@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz Have you heard about traps in anime? Look that up before mistaking this for some sort of trans representation. Lol This is just Japan being Japan. XD
@@sebastianjoseph6728 I agree, its on the similar setting as to making a loli character and then declaring they are 28 years old or 100. Point is right that art is subjective, people throw way too much objectivity into something that clearly was never real to begin with and shouldn't be taken so seriously.
@@Azel49 Thank you! Finally, somebody who sees sense. All these SJWs who are ignorant to anime are here thinking this is some sort of LGBT representation. Lol
@@sebastianjoseph6728 This is just me, but what I also hate is how having a LGBT rep in someones game/media/etc is something noteworthy. Like your sexual preference somehow effects a plot point like saving the world. Lack of an idea... just throw a LGBT character in your story and that makes up for bad story telling. What a world we live in.
So is Vincent in his late 20s in the Catherine ending and Erica didn't transition until they were in their late 20s/early 30s? Because Toby is here and he can't be more than a few years younger than he was in the original timeline.
am i the only one who doesn't like Catherine alt ending? she becomes a completely different character, it feels like fanfiction. Catherine was a succubus and her whole character was supposed to represent the chaos of open relationships and whether you value looks and sex over a more traditional, value driven, monogamous marriage. idk, full body added so much, and Rin is a great addition, but they blurred the defining characteristics of the 2 OG CKatherines too much and so now the story feels like it's lost some weight.
@@byazura9824 If you have the meter leaning mostly blue throughout the game and answer Catherine in a specific way when she texts you about Rin and her piano and then stay on the blue side and on day 9 answer the questions that lean towards chaos and you should be good if you need a step by step guide there's one on Psn profiles
5:31 Im confused with the Erica in this scene. I know she is a transgender women, but how come she is dressed more manly and has a deeper voice in this ending? Did she not transition or is she in the middle of it years later? Like why did they change her transgendering schedule? Lol
honestly? i dont like any of the new endings, they dont feel like they belong to the original setting of the game at all. Katherine's looks too woke Catherine's is a bad fanfic and Rin just doesnt make sense considering the original freedom ending is better cuz it involved Vincent achieving his big and really expensive dream of going to mars, and this new intergalactic setting just makes the freedom ending irrelevant the original game is better IMO
THIS seriously this version had so much of the same love and care put into everything BUT the writing this time. new music and artwork is all great, but it feels like they ditched the whole core concept of choosing between romantic lifestyles in favor of pandering and fan service. most of the new writing beats focus on "what-ifs" and changing the defining characteristics of the main cast, and it removes a lot of the philosophical weight that the original game had going for it.
The new endings just seemed to make Katherine into a "C u Next Time" and now that I see the game after years of playing it the first time, she really is a bad match for him
Having these options makes the game much better. The first one is both fun and humorous, but it's also objectively sexist and has some pretty petty views about being in a relationship (it comes off as having a resentful mindset). With these additional outcomes, the characters seem more three dimensional and likable.
I never liked Vincent as a character and don't think he deserves much of the good that happens to him. Personally, I like the new true ending for Katherine. It shows us he was the albatross holding her down.
@@aletanook he was a weak pathetic man who refused to take responsibility for his own life. I didn't notice at first when I played Catherine at 18. But around my mid to late 20s I realized "damn this dude is a weak man child who doesn't deserve a wife, children, a succubus, or an alien angel ladyboy." He was the antithesis of everything I wanted to be as a man. I've been in Vincent's shoes before and had to choose between chaos and order, and it didn't take long for me to do it. Watching Vincent do that disgusted me. If you're wondering why I had so much introspection about a game... it's because I used to be one of the top 100 Catherine speed runners, I even beat Axis Mundi, so I spent A LOT of time on Catherine, especially during covid.
@@euthyphro8935 Funny because I didn't like Vincent at 20 and thought he was too much of a victim player. Now I'm 25 and kinda understand some of his victim playing? I think people were way too harsh on him. Cheating is not ok but it doesn't make someone a devil. In Vincent's situation, I can understand where he's coming from. He was drunk, is trying to deal with his bad relationship, woke up with a strange girl in his bed who might be his dream girl. I wouldn't know what to do with myself either. I just wish they didn't make Catherine so toxic. About which girl he deserves, Katherine and Catherine are both obviously not good options. But saying that Vincent doesn't deserve anyone is harsh and ignores all the character development he has received. Katherine and Catherine both brought out the worst in him, Katherine because of the clashes in their personality and Catherine who was just a bad influence and overall toxic to be around. Due to his drug use and spending habits, he is obviously not ready to have children. Rin he obviously has a good relationship, so I don't know why you think he doesn't deserve her unless you just hate the character in general. It's good that you were able to overcome what you went through. It shows that you are brave, confident, and resilient. But it doesn't make Vincent any less worthy of a human. He just had to have a little more time to overcome his struggles, but he did, in only a weak not a month or a year, and he deserves praise for that. A lot of cheaters and people in general do not change. Change is hard. Besides, Vincent's motivation was never to hurt anyone. I think he is also neurodivergent and struggling with debilitating anxiety and as someone with both of these things, I can relate to his struggles. The indecisiveness, the immaturity, the desire for routine, the need to fit in and please others, the lack of social skills, the communication issues, feeling like a misfit, hurting and offending others when you don't mean to, bad decisions. Only difference is I don't lie or cheat and am much more outspoken but I wouldn't be much different from Vincent in his situation. Luckily I don't drink so I'd never put myself in that. He also doesn't really have a good support system either, none of his friends were really helping him how to deal with that. I don't really blame him. I think we need more characters like Vincent to show the insecurities and anxieties of adulthood. I don't think these things are talked about as much and people often judge us for talking about our anxieties. We should feel seen and understood.
It's revealed that the game takes place in space. I mean, it makes sense with the space tourism poster you see on Vincent's wall, even from the beginning. They're all part of a human space colony.
@@louised2818 Especially a game coming from Atlas, where they make games portraying gay men as being pedophilic sexual predators (yes, I'm talking about Persona 5). 😐
Don't know if you achieved this yet but this will be for those wondering as well. First keep the choice meter in the middle the whole time. In Day 5 ignore the first text she gives you asking "how's your stomach". Then on the second text answer if she wants to be texted the video and respond to the third text. In day six respond to her text "I saw it". In the final stage of the game answer the questions "of course I would, No, Yes,No." And the alternate ending should occur.
Don't know if you ever found the answer but if you have your meter leaning mostly blue then answer a message that Catherine sends to you about rin and her piano answer in a certain way with the meter blue on the 9th day answer the questions leaning towards chaos and you should have the new ending.
You didn't figure it out? Vincent comments a few times that she isn't a true woman. And Orlando's reaction to Tobey's relationship with Erica is a huge hint.
Just got done playing it and it streaming it this is not the true ending it is the new ending for Katherine but not the katherine true ending the true ending are the same in original catherine for ps3 and xbox360
The Rin route was absolutely perfect until the ending. Wtf dude, an alien? Are you telling me that you are ditching all the angel shenanigans (the androginy, the innocency, the fact that we are in a SMT game) for... an alien? It doesn't even make sense. And omg, that true ending is just awful to watch, it's like the ending of a sitcom chapter. I'll just pretend those last 5 minutes of Rin route didn't exist and be happy.
![Catherine: Full Body- EX Final Boss Archangel & Rin's True Ending | Standard-Normal [Perfect]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RGPjbLOZCdU/mqdefault.jpg)
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Woah Catherine really changed the past just to be with Vincent damn
SweetWinterCherry
Well, it does make for a better ending than the demon version.
@@michaelirazori9214 i liked the demon king ending better but this ending is awesome too
She has the infinite power of best girl
Shits wild asf
IKR but I feel so bad for Rin, ARUGH! This game! Catherine's time changing ending and Rin's are the best ones! Wish I could have both at once! XD
So this game is basically a man deciding between a human, a succubus, and an alien?
😨😱
Aliens are usually genderless.
@@Calcifer34Va an alien is a alien. He doesn't have to be specific lol stfu
*an gay alien.
@@santi960609 not gay just an alien
@@awak4nedchulo882 A Male Alien...
It would have made more sense if Rin was an angel since those are androgynous too and it would be a direct contrast to Catherine
He is one
Thing is He is one. These little Alien quite explained They are miracle to Human world for sometime. While Catherine Is Succubus. So that is consider normal to have
Catherine : Demon
Katherine : Human
Qaterine : Angel
CGInferno no he’s an alien.
Ryu The Keeper Rin and Catherine are both aliens when you think about it, just different species of extraterrestrial, but with more Rick and Morty type vibes (as in the two being from modern civilizations who are actually ordinary by modern standards).
@@Xxsorafan I dont think you understand what the game was saying. According to this game there are no angels. The entire conception of angels was from these aliens and their special suit they wore that look like how we imagine them. They essentially are the angels we know in disguise truly being aliens.
So basically,
Rin is an angel who are actually aliens.
Tbh I used to hate Catherine but the new ending really got me. She didn't want him for sex or seduction atlus showed that she has a lighter side and can be a devoted partner. Love that.
Its nice that Paul got to live in Cathrine’s ending
And, assumedly, Steve!
I think New Catherine's ending is the best because nobody really died thanks to Catherine growing up in highschool with Vincent and not seducing any men for Dumuzid.
But doesn't that mean that they didn't have the nightmares, then? Does that mean Catherine erased Mutton from existance? Damn! I guess the lesson here is, if you are a demigod walking the earth and are tasked with making weak men suffer, never employ a succubus!
So love can change even murderous demons... And fix all the murder?
And Steve?
I used to be team Katherine but I'm totally for Catherine with this new ending. But Rin has to be my ultimate favorite. Rin is so wholesome.
Holly Agreed
Well said
Aahh yes. The classic anime cliche where they draw a girl and make her feminine af but call her a boy. Thats pretty much Rin here. Altho I did like Rin as a character. I feel like she distracts from the main story rather than adding anything. Personally, my favorite ending would be Catherine's new true ending where she changes the past to just be with Vincent. And I can't believe that Katerine's New Ending is even worse than Vanilla's Bad Endings, I mean, this one was so toxic for Vincent. Ironically, Catherine's New Ending has become my favorite one by far.
@@sebastianjoseph6728 I actually think Rin has added some meaningful story. Unlike Catherine and Katherine in the main plot, Rin never demands anything from Vincent. His love is selfless where Catherine and Katherine's are selfish. He accepts Vincent for the way he is and never once ask that he change for him. The fact that he's a boy reflects this perspective onto Vincent, who instead of wishing him to change (wishing him to be a girl), accepts Rin as he is. Vincent ends up loving him because he wants to, not because of an obligation to a moral compass (Katherine) or because he resents his current life (Catherine).
I think the new Katherine ending is a Bad Ending, actually. Vincent cheats on her and she moves on, leaving him. I just like the new Catherine ending over any of Katherine's endings because the writers showed that she's willing to sacrifice a part of herself for Vincent, as any sort of love demands. The incentive for choosing Katherine as a love interest is that she deserves a good man (which is true), but it doesn't impact me the same way a demon going back in time to redeem herself does :D
Sorry for the long write-up. Catherine has been one of my favorite games since the original came out.
@@holly9096 No need to apologize. Lol I love hearing other people's perspectives and opinions. But personally, I prefer Catherine's new true ending which surprised me considering that she is a succubus and despite that, she's willing to go back in time to just be with Vincent. Not to mention change herself and marry Vincent in the process. Katherine's new true ending turned her out to be a toxic, shallow and fame hungry chick. Yeah, I'd take Catherine over that anyday. As for Rin, as much as I loved Rin as a character, I feel like she disracts from the original two Katherine and Catherine and it seemed like the story was more focussed on her compared to the other two without her adding anything meaningful since she's always the innocent goody two shoes who's going to support Vincent no matter what. Like there's no form of conflict when it comes to Rin like there is in the other two. You'll get a good ending with Rin no matter what you choose if you take the Rin route that is. I laughed my ass off when it was revealed that she was a trap and whats even more laughable are SJWs who are ignorant to anime culture thinking that Rin being a boy is supposed to be some of LGBT representation. XD
Whatever your sexuality or tastes are you can not deny that rins character was written really well. I legit almost forgot technically this would be a gay relationship. I saw it as two people just being in love for being themselves. I’m still on the Catherine boat but well done atlus with their writing on rin.
I don't consider Rin as a male since it is an alien and is mono gendered. I mean when Rin's "brother" appeared in front of them, that figure talked in a dominant male voice but the minion form of Rin's "brother" talked in childish female voice so, it indicates Rin and those aliens can morph into anything they wish to be.
Subhankar Baral yeah I know but the game tries to push rin as a male for its message so I just call rin a male for the sake of it. I don’t really get into the whole classification of genders cause that’s just a whole headache to get through. Especially for people who really shouldn’t do it but do it anyway.
@@subhankarbaral9236 You do realize that male characters have had female voice actors since probably the dawn of anime right? Rins brothers having “female voices” doesn’t indicate anything. There is no indication that Rin has anything other than his “true form” and the human form. if that were the case, it would have been stated. The “indication” you’re seeing is just your headcanon because you don’t want to accept that Rin and her brothers are guys.
@@pathetic2399 Mono gendered Rin is good for me since I am homophobic. I think I gave enough reason for my head canon.
@@subhankarbaral9236 BTW in the jp version, Rin’s brothers don’t sound female in their true form. They sound like chipmunks. Rins ending in JP is on UA-cam if you want to watch it
still none of these beats the one where vincent chooses none and just goes to space ending from the old one
I think Vincent going to Space to become Spike Spiegel, or becoming a Hollywood Mogul Producer are fine. Either one.
Long as he's happy.
And even though it's not choosing to be by himself, at least he still gets to go to Space!
You can still get that.
ALL the old stuff is here with new stuff to go with it.
nooberstone I like that ending too, especially how they were on a giant eco spaceship the whole time but over the course of the game it never goes into it...just decides to reveal it in that ending XD
Catherine ending was super sweet. Like a really sweet dream.
Similar to Rin's ending.
My favorite ending will always be the true freedom ending. I also really like the Catherine alternate ending
@@JazzStation95 Yeah, but I feel bad for Erica, she's still Erik in that version, which is kinda sad.
@@animesakuragirl she implies that she'll transition soon or date toby anyway.
@@JazzStation95 yeah, but I don't think she's human in the credits she shows her horns to Vincent. I she gave up seducing men, or something.
Yeah, I like the new endings but these thots can't compete with best girl Spaceship-chan, from the Freedom Ending.
@@kei7540 She's still a demon with all her powers but now only Vincent knows that and she is now a reality in human form(i.e. everyone can see her)
Catherine's wedding ending was amazing. I love it so much
And Katherine Proved to be the bitch we all knew she was, she's even treating Paul like shit in Catherine's new ending. Maybe she wasn't such a bitch 5 years ago, but she is now.
7:50 I hope Morgana doesn't tell Rin to go to sleep every night lol
EXOAishi Phantomhive I PEEPED THAT
Isnt there a theory that Catherine and Persona 5 are in the same universe ???
I didn’t even see that
@@marvcastle3916 seems like so ua-cam.com/video/WN6xjUhUHXg/v-deo.html
I really love Catherine's new ending. It definitely is my new favorite. We got to see what Paul looks like too lol.
Wait. If Erica's the redhead at 4:26 I'm really surprised. Idk, I never played this game and I never wondered about how she looked before transitioning.
Yes that is Him before he became transgender but with the new ending with Catherine he stays his gender
What
Meaning Toby's V card will be taken BY A MAN YEEEAAAHH GAE GUYS
I just noticed a p3 school emblem on 5:43
so that a secret
And Vincent also appear in persona 3 portable
Katherine ending feels so real. Tear down the status quo and live free.
true ending katrine like this . this can be . they just cut relationships between Vincent and katherine . just like that . kathrine !!
Damn, didn't even know there was a re-release until now. Catherine truly was the best choice all along.
Anyone feel warm about the music that is played when showing photos of the endings... it nearly made me cry
Why is no one talking about Johnny asking ourt and then marrying an alien !!?? What a legend!!
My personal favorite is Katherine's ending. She was like... I don't need no man to make me happy! I'M FINE ON MY OWN!!!
She finally saw her own worth and that's truly *beautiful*
We finally got to see Erica as Eric! Too bad we only got to see 20 seconds of him the first time and 5 seconds the second time.
Why would you want her before her transition?
@@Cakemarvelous That's not what I'm saying AT ALL. I was just saying that it was extremely cool to see what Erica looked like as Eric. I prefer Erica 1000000% over Eric anytime of the day.
OH PAUL LIVES
Wtf? The True Katherine Ending was that????
cosmicaler I knew she couldn’t be trusted
Not exactly the true Katherine ending but the new one. The original ending is still in the game
It’s her new bad ending.
BLARGLESNARF bad ending? Always wanted her moving on ending instead of that so forgiving ending
Weeb Gamer Yup, new Bad Ending
Its not gay if its angel or alien!
HA GAAYYY
U gotta sprinkle a lil "no homo" on it😂
Still gay. You forgot to say "no homo"
So basically Catherine is space dandy now
Why do I see an older ryuji, a reformed kanji and a guy version of marie in the thumbnail?
I did all wrong looking the dlc. I always tought that katherine was just a cute girl, or maybe is better to say woman, she was totally in love with vincent, hates his childish acting because she wants to live with him forever and grow with him. I always tought that catherine was just a succubus that has a crush for a human, never belived something like this, she literally changed the past because she loves him...and she's also goddammed cute
RIP Vincent after the Katherine ending. He was found washed up on the beach a few weeks later
idk about you but the True Rin ending is probably the best one? Vincent gets to go with his dreams and become super rich and famous and tour with his girl. Being a demon god is cool and the space one too. The Kathrine true ending was the best ending, but for her, probably because damn. -
Tour with his man*
Eh...haven't played this game but Rin route caught me off guard where it expand to somewhere smt verse haven't been.
I guess we can add aliens to the SMTverse now. It was gonna happen sooner or later
They already existed in Desu 2 though
@@joanjoestar3252 But were completely fixated on Earth for some reason
@@joanjoestar3252 Devil Survivor 2 had aliens? Ok time to check that shit out
@@WeaponXSigma I mean it makes sense since (in the Persona series) Nyx is an alien/eldritch being that causes Personas.
Yeah time travel wife lol
Rin is my absolute favorite character. I don't mind the whole alien thing but I wish the family was less goofy. It's a tone thing
I LOVE YOU CATHERINE!!! We need more level dlc’s
rin ending picture music its joyful joyful we adore you
the new catherine ending is so cute ! but katherine will always be my best girl :’)
I love this new Katherine ending xD
Would be cool is Vincent could end up with red haired girl. She seems pretty awesome
You talking about Erica? Or should I say Eric.
I was hoping they would add that ending but oh well. Maybe it will be DLC but doubt it since Erica likes Toby
@@pathetic2399 nah with a re-release like this that would've already been put into the game. I don't see a dlc of that magnitude happening for this.
so again people got upset over nothing.
Yep but people still think they changed it. Gotta love this generation...
Yep. Nothing actually got changed for the english version. If it did then I sure as hell didn't notice it
@@WeaponXSigma to my knowledge, it was literally only a single line of dialogue that was changed from the PS3 / 360 / PC version. It was Vincent saying to Erica "I would be more convinced if a woman was telling me this" being changed to "Oh come on." People are really overblowing this, it's such a negligible change that doesn't affect the story at all. People should be actually upset that the Shin Megami Tensei tracks were removed from the Jukebox, lol.
@@CJojo_13_ Wait, THAT was what people are going up in arms about? At least we know why the ResetEra half are bitching about it and for that, I'll gladly collect their tears then make like Nelson from the Simpsons and laugh while pointing at them but the other half needs to calm down as thats not something to go up in arms about
WeaponXSigma I feel like it's because it feels like some kind of pandering towards a community where most people don't even play this game
Its so cool to hear some voice actors from persona 3 and 4
From earth to galaxy. Wow.
kinda ruins the freedom ending though. vincent's dream of going to mars is made trivial when rin and alien friends just hop around the entire galaxy
The ONLY way to achieve this in game is to stay in the middle of the meter. I thought these were the bad ending cause I thought I answered the questions wrong for true freedom, but seeing these alternate endings was even more worth it. Catherine’s Ending was better than Katherine(it was cringy af lol)
That thumbnail broke my heart
I'm glad that Catherine had a better ending. Was sort of sad that it's the whole "hell aspect", than just a normal life. It's crazy that it travels back in the highschool one though
Isn't this game heavily copyright protected by Sega and has it blocked in Japan?
Yup
Yeah in Europe
SEGA didn't make profit and were very angry. They want money, and for Sonic to be number 1, not Vincent and some alien with a magnum dong of justice
How do you get the new Katherine ending? I tried using a guide but I ended up marrying her again
Mackenzie Strong I saw somewhere that you have to send them each a video of Rin playing the piano. Did you do that?
Uh...your meter has to be neutral, not favoring one or the other.
wtf that "aliens"... 8:38
Catherine looks like Ann
Katherine looks like Sae
Toby looks like Ryuji
Rin looks like Haru
Erica looks like Makoto
Jonny looks like Yusuke
And I still have no idea why.
They inspired them and the game was a testing ground for persona 5
Gotta love how Rin is the only sane choice while the ladies are batshit crazy.
What sequence of events do you need to activate the new Katherine bad ending?
Aahh yes. The classic anime cliche where they draw a girl and make her feminine af but call her a boy. Thats pretty much Rin here. Altho I did like Rin as a character. I feel like she distracts from the main story rather than adding anything. Personally, my favorite ending would be Catherine's new true ending where she changes the past to just be with Vincent. And I can't believe that Katerine's New Ending is even worse than Vanilla's Bad Endings, I mean, this one was so toxic for Vincent.
Ironically, Catherine's New Ending has become my favorite one by far.
have you seen what makeup can do? look up sneaky's cosplays
@@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz Have you heard about traps in anime? Look that up before mistaking this for some sort of trans representation. Lol
This is just Japan being Japan. XD
@@sebastianjoseph6728 I agree, its on the similar setting as to making a loli character and then declaring they are 28 years old or 100. Point is right that art is subjective, people throw way too much objectivity into something that clearly was never real to begin with and shouldn't be taken so seriously.
@@Azel49 Thank you! Finally, somebody who sees sense. All these SJWs who are ignorant to anime are here thinking this is some sort of LGBT representation. Lol
@@sebastianjoseph6728 This is just me, but what I also hate is how having a LGBT rep in someones game/media/etc is something noteworthy. Like your sexual preference somehow effects a plot point like saving the world. Lack of an idea... just throw a LGBT character in your story and that makes up for bad story telling. What a world we live in.
Translated from French by Google.
04:47 Honestly, I prefer Catherine with her hair down than with her swirly hairstyle.
So is Vincent in his late 20s in the Catherine ending and Erica didn't transition until they were in their late 20s/early 30s? Because Toby is here and he can't be more than a few years younger than he was in the original timeline.
am i the only one who doesn't like Catherine alt ending? she becomes a completely different character, it feels like fanfiction. Catherine was a succubus and her whole character was supposed to represent the chaos of open relationships and whether you value looks and sex over a more traditional, value driven, monogamous marriage. idk, full body added so much, and Rin is a great addition, but they blurred the defining characteristics of the 2 OG CKatherines too much and so now the story feels like it's lost some weight.
I also felt weird about this ending. It's cute, but also, it felt forced? I had similar feelings about Katherine's new true ending.
So moral of the story. Just go with the demon.
How do i get this ending i looked everywhere and didn't find anything.
Which one?
@@TopHattIncnew good Catherine ending
@@byazura9824 If you have the meter leaning mostly blue throughout the game and answer Catherine in a specific way when she texts you about Rin and her piano and then stay on the blue side and on day 9 answer the questions that lean towards chaos and you should be good if you need a step by step guide there's one on Psn profiles
psnprofiles.com/trophy/9594-catherine-full-body/13-time-traveling-bride
@@TopHattInc Thank you so much man.
5:31 Im confused with the Erica in this scene. I know she is a transgender women, but how come she is dressed more manly and has a deeper voice in this ending? Did she not transition or is she in the middle of it years later? Like why did they change her transgendering schedule? Lol
The idea in the Catherine ending is that Erica decides to transition later in life, and just hasn't done so yet.
TEDDIE!! 2:59
MORGANA AND SO KOROMARU
honestly? i dont like any of the new endings, they dont feel like they belong to the original setting of the game at all.
Katherine's looks too woke
Catherine's is a bad fanfic
and Rin just doesnt make sense considering the original freedom ending is better cuz it involved Vincent achieving his big and really expensive dream of going to mars, and this new intergalactic setting just makes the freedom ending irrelevant
the original game is better IMO
THIS
seriously this version had so much of the same love and care put into everything BUT the writing this time. new music and artwork is all great, but it feels like they ditched the whole core concept of choosing between romantic lifestyles in favor of pandering and fan service. most of the new writing beats focus on "what-ifs" and changing the defining characteristics of the main cast, and it removes a lot of the philosophical weight that the original game had going for it.
Nah Eric on Toby like they might be closer then you think 💀
The new endings just seemed to make Katherine into a "C u Next Time" and now that I see the game after years of playing it the first time, she really is a bad match for him
How the hell does Erica stay as a man, by Vincent not going with Kathrine
So Katherine is the bad ending, who would have thought
I feel bad... Erica got screwed over :(
Wdym? Erica GOT screwed
And in the Catherine ending here, he still a dude but implies a future still with Toby
idk who to choose between rin and katherine , I love kat but rin is cute too HAOLALDSAIDJSIJAI IDK BYE
Having these options makes the game much better. The first one is both fun and humorous, but it's also objectively sexist and has some pretty petty views about being in a relationship (it comes off as having a resentful mindset). With these additional outcomes, the characters seem more three dimensional and likable.
Stay with rin
8:08 why is there Martians here
how do you get the time travel ending?
Similar method to Katherine's alternate ending. Follow the same steps, except apply it to Catherine, and answer differently on Night 9.
Eh I prefer the original Catherine ending where I get to be a kick ass demon overlord not only nailing Catherine but other hot shedemons
I think I still prefer Catherine endings, specifically the demon version
Are the endings not in this game anymore?
Man, they fucked Vincent up, I mean really give this man a normal love!
My problem with Rin is that she barely has any down sides
Wow they really detransitioned Erica in the Catherine ending huh
Atlus really do just be putting homophobia and/or transphobia in all their games
I got the same ending form Catherine and full body
I never liked Vincent as a character and don't think he deserves much of the good that happens to him. Personally, I like the new true ending for Katherine. It shows us he was the albatross holding her down.
Bro what did Vincent do to you?
@@aletanook he was a weak pathetic man who refused to take responsibility for his own life. I didn't notice at first when I played Catherine at 18. But around my mid to late 20s I realized "damn this dude is a weak man child who doesn't deserve a wife, children, a succubus, or an alien angel ladyboy." He was the antithesis of everything I wanted to be as a man. I've been in Vincent's shoes before and had to choose between chaos and order, and it didn't take long for me to do it. Watching Vincent do that disgusted me.
If you're wondering why I had so much introspection about a game... it's because I used to be one of the top 100 Catherine speed runners, I even beat Axis Mundi, so I spent A LOT of time on Catherine, especially during covid.
@@euthyphro8935 Funny because I didn't like Vincent at 20 and thought he was too much of a victim player. Now I'm 25 and kinda understand some of his victim playing? I think people were way too harsh on him. Cheating is not ok but it doesn't make someone a devil. In Vincent's situation, I can understand where he's coming from. He was drunk, is trying to deal with his bad relationship, woke up with a strange girl in his bed who might be his dream girl. I wouldn't know what to do with myself either. I just wish they didn't make Catherine so toxic.
About which girl he deserves, Katherine and Catherine are both obviously not good options. But saying that Vincent doesn't deserve anyone is harsh and ignores all the character development he has received. Katherine and Catherine both brought out the worst in him, Katherine because of the clashes in their personality and Catherine who was just a bad influence and overall toxic to be around. Due to his drug use and spending habits, he is obviously not ready to have children. Rin he obviously has a good relationship, so I don't know why you think he doesn't deserve her unless you just hate the character in general.
It's good that you were able to overcome what you went through. It shows that you are brave, confident, and resilient. But it doesn't make Vincent any less worthy of a human. He just had to have a little more time to overcome his struggles, but he did, in only a weak not a month or a year, and he deserves praise for that. A lot of cheaters and people in general do not change. Change is hard. Besides, Vincent's motivation was never to hurt anyone. I think he is also neurodivergent and struggling with debilitating anxiety and as someone with both of these things, I can relate to his struggles. The indecisiveness, the immaturity, the desire for routine, the need to fit in and please others, the lack of social skills, the communication issues, feeling like a misfit, hurting and offending others when you don't mean to, bad decisions. Only difference is I don't lie or cheat and am much more outspoken but I wouldn't be much different from Vincent in his situation. Luckily I don't drink so I'd never put myself in that. He also doesn't really have a good support system either, none of his friends were really helping him how to deal with that. I don't really blame him.
I think we need more characters like Vincent to show the insecurities and anxieties of adulthood. I don't think these things are talked about as much and people often judge us for talking about our anxieties. We should feel seen and understood.
True Katherine ending......
I so fucking bad holy shit. I prefer the old normal Lawful ending than THAT
Catherine team 👑
They did Erica dirty
Freedom ending is funny
I rather the demon over the dude with pink hair any day.
New Catherine ending is the beeeest.
Hold up, when did aliens become a part of this? Context please?
Rin's an alien. Her big brother is an "Archangel". She's also a dude but not really. If that makes it less confusing, I would be confused.
What Bloodyidt said, but the game was always set in space as revealed by the Freedom Ending.
Wowwww I watched the part with Rin’s brother, and... uh, I think I get it more?
It's revealed that the game takes place in space. I mean, it makes sense with the space tourism poster you see on Vincent's wall, even from the beginning. They're all part of a human space colony.
Bayley Rowell wow. I never knew that part. That’s really weird but interesting
Anything censored?
Haven't seen anything removed from the JP version
Really?
@@louised2818 There's literally nothing to censor to begin with since the key part isn't even transphobic, so I think that they left it alone
That's interesting to know, coming from a video game from Japan
@@louised2818 Especially a game coming from Atlas, where they make games portraying gay men as being pedophilic sexual predators (yes, I'm talking about Persona 5). 😐
can someone tell me how to get cathrines true ending??? (the time travel one) thank you!
Don't know if you achieved this yet but this will be for those wondering as well. First keep the choice meter in the middle the whole time. In Day 5 ignore the first text she gives you asking "how's your stomach". Then on the second text answer if she wants to be texted the video and respond to the third text. In day six respond to her text "I saw it". In the final stage of the game answer the questions "of course I would, No, Yes,No." And the alternate ending should occur.
Is it bad that Catherine reminds me of my gf?
Lmao what did Catherine do to make Erica stay Eric?
Notjing, butterfly effect I guess
WTF was that last ending?
The gay thing is this game is weird imo, Vincent never even hints at being gay but all of a sudden in this route he's cool with it
Wtf Eric dude or chic?
Erica is a trans woman.
Her deadname was Eric.
CATHERINE NEW TRUE ENDING IS SO GOOD HOW DO I GET IT
Don't know if you ever found the answer but if you have your meter leaning mostly blue then answer a message that Catherine sends to you about rin and her piano answer in a certain way with the meter blue on the 9th day answer the questions leaning towards chaos and you should have the new ending.
Sir Hattington 2 thanks dude but i googled it around when i typed this comment and ima go for it after i'm done with ff7
@@PenguinsAreColdish Gotcha good luck and hope you enjoy both this and ff7 remake
@@TopHattInc i did! thanks
@@PenguinsAreColdish Glad you enjoyed it
wait, Erica is a trans?
WHAT
You didn't figure it out?
Vincent comments a few times that she isn't a true woman. And Orlando's reaction to Tobey's relationship with Erica is a huge hint.
These new endings are crap comparing to OG game. The meaning of the game is totally lost for fun service.
if Rins a boy, does that mean he grows a beard and moustache later on
aww
HOLLY FUCK ERICA WAS A MAN
Just got done playing it and it streaming it this is not the true ending it is the new ending for Katherine but not the katherine true ending the true ending are the same in original catherine for ps3 and xbox360
More of an alternative true ending imo
@@CGInferno In Katherine's case its the alternate bad ending
The Rin route was absolutely perfect until the ending. Wtf dude, an alien? Are you telling me that you are ditching all the angel shenanigans (the androginy, the innocency, the fact that we are in a SMT game) for... an alien? It doesn't even make sense. And omg, that true ending is just awful to watch, it's like the ending of a sitcom chapter.
I'll just pretend those last 5 minutes of Rin route didn't exist and be happy.
Isn't Rin a guy?
Well i think....i mean hes an Alien and i am not a expert in Alien Biology but in Human Ways.....yes Rin is a Guy
All these endings are trash tbh