Are You Squeezing Your Bowling Ball Too Much? | Are You Forced to Squeeze Because of Your Fit?
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This is seriously the first video that explains this, thank you so much. As a beginner, I had my thumb hole expanded because it grabbed too much, and now it is huge. I actually got carpal tunnel because I had to squeeze so much to keep it from dropping. 4 pieces of tape later and carpal tunnel is gone, but I just got a new ball with a thumb hole that's fit better and now it's grabbing so hard its not coming off my hand. Turns out it's because I'm coming in over the top it looks like. Great tip, thanks.
Mind. Blown. 41 years I've been playing this game, and I've never known this. Thank you.
If the ball falls off your hand when it’s by your side or you feel like it will when you relax your hand you need to change your fit
Great tip. I’m two years late to the party but I’ll definitely try more tape in the thumb and see how it works for me.
Dude I never knew about "oval thumb hole". I'm looking at my hand and I can't un-see it now. THIS IS THE GREATEST TIP. my coach years ago would always say pendulum swing, but i never could focus on my swing since my thumb was getting raw from gripping.
yeah.. my ball fit is completely wrong with this in mind. I have to grip the ball throughout my entire swing path and release it. My wrist is killing me all the time.
I've always had to have a death grip on the ball to hold it. I thought that was normal. I went to a different pro shop, and the amount of measurements that were taken this time were way more in depth. In fact the pro told me I have a strange hand or thumb that makes the drilling a challenge. The new ball has given me the consistency I've been looking for. Thanks for the knowledge.
This video taught me more about the release than ANY other video! Bravo JR!!!
i was already considering getting a fit change but after this video i DEFINITELY am going to. mind blown. thank you! 🎉🎉
Thanks that help me I was having that problem. Thanks for the correction I was ready to change all of my thumb holes.
Ive been watching so many videos trying to figure out how to clear my thumb, i kept getting hung up and was bowling terribly until now. thank you!
This is the most helpful video for my needs. Thanks for this. I have questioned my grip and felt the need to squeeze the ball to keep from dropping it.
Great post . thank you
Great Tips !
Mine feels great 👍 very helpful ty
Great tip and thank you!
Awesome tip! I'm a recreational bowler and have always struggled with my thumb getting stuck. Just practiced this with my new ball by dropping it on the couch and it worked every time! You're officially my favorite tip guy. Thanks so much for all of your advice!
I’ve watched hundreds of videos including others from JR, but this one finally opened my eyes on what I should look for when getting my balls drilled. I’m also now looking for my thumb to parallel to the lane for proper release. I had three balls freshly drilled and I couldn’t figure out why on some it felt like it was going to fall off and on others my thumb would get stuck. I know I have to work on my fit with a PSO as well as my wrist strength to make sure I can keep my thumb parallel. Thank you JR
Great Tip, I've been hanging up and couldnt figure it out, may seem like a simple tip but that was huge, love your channel just ordered a ball thru bowlerx and Thank You
Good points! As a two hander with thumb in, my thumb holes are always a bit more loose than the normal grip for a one hander.
Thanks I’ll be checking soon.
Wow. Never tried that before but it works just the way you said. Yay for my PSO at Hard Rock Lanes in Garden City, KS!!!
Great tip! I recently changed to fingertip grip. My ball has been sticking to my hand badly. And sometimes it would just fall right off my hand so I had a tendency to have an excessive grip. So today I had my pro shop guy take a look at my thumb hole and he changed the pitch and made the hole more oval. Now I feel a huge difference in my grip and I don’t feel like I have to put so much effort into my swing now.
I had my own ball when I was a kid, from a hav-a-ball league. Since then I’ve used lane/house balls - and rarely bowled (only a few times in 30 years). Until a couple weeks ago, when I got a good ball and had it correctly fit. Unfortunately I did not know how to throw it. My first game with it was a 203, but I nearly killed the thumb tendons doing that. So last night I spent ensuring that my grip and startup are correct. They go together. I’m not really gripping the ball anymore; it is just sort of sitting in my hand as gravity does its job. What grip I’m using comes at the base of the thumb. And with the fingertips set up correctly, the thumb is now sliding out naturally at the bottom of the throw.
Yup did exactly what yours did had to wiggle to drop off then slid off easy when I keep my hands behind it✊🏾
thank you for this video. I've been having alot of issues with the size of my thumb hole. every pro shop says something different and none have been able to get the size right yet. I'll do this when I go back to the lanes
I'm still throwing my first ball (with the thumbhole drilled round by my pro shop when I bought it). It's been sometimes too loose in the past, but once I used the right tape in the right places, it fits perfectly. I'm exploring getting a second ball soon, and my pro shop guy definitely thinks I need an oval thumbhole for a better fit this time. I agree.
I struggled greatly last weekend with my thumb sticking. I’ll give this a shot in some practice drills today
Your absolutly right and i could never figure out why i would somtimes chuck the ball half way down the lane and dislocate my wrist. Lol because i was on top of the ball. I have been struggling with that forever but now it all makes s3nse. Thanks JR
Great tip....ty
Finally a good answer about this topic.
Thank you for this. I didn't realize how bad my fit was
I had problems with grip pressure and getting a ball to fit, and my thumb got blisters every time I practiced, I got my fit re adjusted all the time so I just switched to two hand style and so far it’s going well
Thanks for the video, very useful.
Captain photo bomb strikes again.
Will try this weekend definitely wish I lived closer to come in though and see you and get help but 6 hour drive is a lil to much haha thank you for the info though
Hi JR, excellent video. I never knew that the thumb should be snug to hold the ball until your cup your wrist to make the thumb parallel and force the thumb come out on the release ! Great Job ! :)
Great info, and that kid was hilarious!
awesome explanation
Will definitely try this..
Great video JR, this is the type of diagnostic video we beginners need. What drills do you recommend for keeping your hand and thumb in the proper position for release?
Great tip
Thanks for this video! Never assume we know this stuff! I fight the local pro shop here where I bowl, (Illinois - grew up in Milford many, many moons ago!) to always have my thumb hole drilled oversized when I buy a new ball. The young guns in there behind the counter are always telling me “how it should be”. But, I have ALWAYS had a problem early and late in the season because of temperature, humidity, etc. getting my thumb out. I just use thick tape for fit and feel, then replace it with a thinner piece in about 1/2 way through each week. In the dead of winter, same piece all night is fine. However, after it hangs up once, I’m too damn conscious of it for the rest of the night. Nobody has ever told me about keeping my thumb parallel to the ground on release. Lord knows I have asked everyone in the league who is really good and claims to “know the game”. I have picked all their brains on release positions.
My finger tips usually get sore by nights end and I think,(now that I watched this video) it’s because I’m so worried about getting it off my hand sometimes, I’m NOT getting my thumb parallel to the ground, (actually leaving it short of that) and there’s too much weight on my fingers at release. I’m thinking if I keep my thumb straight up and down, (or at least close to it) it would somewhat come off / fall off easier. You just demonstrated that’s it’s the opposite! Anxious to now try that mental note in warmups on Monday Night and see how it feels. Good stuff! Love your content!
Your assistant was AWESOME!!!!
I’ve been bowling wrong for years. Going to try to get this changed this week.
Awesome video
I tried this while watching. My ball stays on when relaxed. I also had my proshop guy put in a reverse pitch so I would not be squeezing hard. What a difference in my releases. As far as thumbhole shapes go I used to have an oval hole. But now I use switch grips. Alot better for me for when my thumb swells.
I saw this video. My balls drilled by undoubtedly the best pro shop owner in Norway, so it fit well. But i didnt think about the whole paralell to the floor. After I saw this I managed to relax ALOT more and the axxis instantly got better, no more deflecting from the pocket for some nasty splits
Sooo I know I'm late to this party, but here is my answer! Mine stays on and I also need to wiggle it quite a bit to shake it off. I had no clue that this was the proper fit! I got the Black Widow 2.0 when it came out and I went from a 20 year old 156 average to now a 190 average. My pro shop must have known what they were doing for the fit...I just didn't know how it was really supposed to feel. I'm 52 years old and have bowled since I was 10...even in league I had no clue! Thank you!
Mine falls off instantly...I have to squeeze with my thumb to hold it. I have heard of doing this, but did not understand at the time. Now I do. I will have to play with it to figure out what I need to do to fix it. Great Video! Thanks
My fit is correct thanks for the tip
Digging the new camera!!
I have the switch grip thumb. I assume doing an oval is easy for those inserts.
My ball fall s right off. I just bought it a rhino blue and grey reactive. Had it drilled at the pro shop. He never had me throw a ball and said how it was drilled really didn't matter to the ball and fitted my hand but it falls right off i am thoroughly unhappy and want to truly get good at bowling and told him this because he seemed to care about bowling and maybe he does just not my bowling. I love you channel and tips thanks so much for your time sir
Finally got all my balls to fit this way, last night. Had some new grips installed because I started taping my fingers, but none of the grips of the same size matched/ felt the same, and none of the thumb holes felt the same either, even though they were all drilled by the same PSO. Mostly my fault because I asked him to make things over size a little to allow room for swell and that I would fine tune things as I went. But long story short, they all feel the same now and only fall off my fingers at the bottom of the swing and I don't have to grab or squeeze at all. Still getting used to it after squeezing for nearly 20 years. 166, 208, 258 was the series, and usually it is best game first then going down in the gutter from there. Excited for doubles tournament tomorrow, see if I can bang out 4 games above 200.
Aside from fit, best improvement was bowling one frame at a time, never looking at the score. someone will tell you when its the tenth. Score only matters after the last ball rolls down the lane.
I'm in exactly the same boat. Had an 80's grip since I was a kid (I'm only 29) and just got my equipment refitted a week ago. Now I have to relearn almost 20 years of grip pressure. Yay!
LoL Lil JR video bombing
My problem is that my thump comes out before I'm ready to release the ball and it usually hits the 4, 7 and 8 pins. It happens once or twice during league play.
We have 1 shop close to me and I always have a problem with his drilling’s. Thumb hole appears straight and hangs up. I had ream the thumb out. Fingers don’t look completely round. He has an old press and doesn’t ask any questions. He takes your measurements, fits fingers, and punches holes.
My ball falls off. Great video
It will DEFINITELY fall off... I thought I would just have a bad grip pressure. I really have to squeeze it and even if I squeeze, my thumb will hang out a bit which makes it even harder to hold the ball. My thumb just can't stay inside the ball... it's so frustrating. Got my ball drilled the second time already because the first time the fit was so bad that I couldn't even play with it.
I don’t use any grip pressure at all in my set up. Should I start gripping lightly with my thumb?
So if it falls off when beside you, do you need a wider span or tighter thumb hole? Or???
I finally got a tighter thumb hole on my ball and am having trouble keeping my thumb parallel to the lane. I’m still a bit scared the ball will stick to me hand and send me down the lane with it but after using it for a few days I’m still having trouble keeping my hand Benin’s the ball. Any tips?
JR, love your son in the videos.
The guy who drilled my ball we had this conversation during this time he said that the people that think it should stick to your thumb or wrong that it should not stick so naturally when I do this it just Falls right off what can I do to change it tape insert or what
It seems like I'm always in between -- I squeeze and then one more piece of tape and then my thumb is stuck
Thanks for the great way to check the fit. I have a large flat thumb. I went from actually dropping the ball early to a hanging ball without understanding the factors and the interaction between proper fit and squeezing the ball too much. The comment about the position of the thumb relative to the lane during the release helps me visualise.
I don't believe I've ever had a balled drilled properly, when my hand is in the right position it hurts and I feel like the ball will drop off my hand so I squeeze the crap out of it. I'm going to see a new PSO next Friday recommended by my new coach. I can't wait to feel a proper ball fit!
I have a tendency to grab it at the bottom... I found out my thumb hole was way to big for a long time and did not know that. I had to add 4 pieces of tape to get it to fit snug. Should I drill another thumb or learn to relax my hand? Or both? Thanks
I literally have to knuckle the ball and really claw grip it on the downward back swing or the ball is going to go flying. I've been bowling like this my whole life and just now I'm figuring out I've been doing it all wrong. I also have a circle thumb hole instead of oval...is my pro shop operator not drilling right?
Do you have any tips for thumbless bowlers?
Does this apply to finger tip as well as conventional?
It stays on when I'm hanging. IBPSIA shop did the fit.
my ball does not do that, I just got my first ball ever and the proshop guy measured and drilled the ball, i feel like I have to squeeze the entire time or it feels like it's gonna fall off. and it hurts my fingers from having to squeeze so much, after a game or two. basically I've just wasted money on a improper fitting ball,
at least I got the cheapest ball and didn't fall for the spend more for your first ball, because then I would be really sad.
I really can’t do this technique but I have a conventional grip
My ball falls off instantly unless I'm squeezing it. Should I have the fit changed?
Mine stays on but a little slack.
My tight oval insert doesnt make much of a difference compared to my round
Mine barely hands on. I’ve had a gnarly burn mark on my thumb for months. It developed when one of my interchangeables was barely too big and the suction caused the burn. I have a tighter thumb that I use now but the burn I’m convinced will be there forever.
I used to get this, but it was because I was bending my thumb in the thumb hole creating extra pressure trying to hold on to it. I learned to "squeeze" correctly and havent had the issue in years.
@@HitemWithTheFlex How do you “squeeze” correctly? I try to squeeze at the base of my thumb. In my case, I wonder if using tape actually makes it worse too.
@@iamasooner86 I personally squeeze the way you do then. You may try using some powder on your thumb if you dont as well as making sure the thumb tape you are using is not textured. It took me quite some time to figure out my personal situation but eventually got there. best of luck
Lauren, I had the same problem of the excessive suction in the interchangeable thumbs for a long time. Felt like I was always hanging up.
My last pro shop guy suggested drilling a very small hole in the bottom part of my interchangeable thumbs. VOILA! No more suction and the thumb comes out very clean now.
@@scottbarnes4549 That’s amazing! I will suggest this to my PSO! Thank you!
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My Thumb is pretty good in all my balls. I do have a problem with fingers which I am sure I not alone. Most of my balls have inserts. The issue is my finger size and Insert sizes don't match always. Is there a way snug up the fingers when needed for a more relaxed grip?
Put tape on the fingers themselves like JR does in the video.
5 pieces of tape up the back helps
Got any suggestions for an arthritic middle finger, recently dropped down to 13 lb ball because of finger issues.
Same here. Have finger hole drilled more "away"' That means the angle of the hole is actually pointing away from the middle or palm of your hand
Mine falls off !!
But once you’ve become used to squeezing, how do you stop squeezing after you get the fit changed?
You have to practice to get used to the new feel. I did. Took about a week to get used to the new feel, but it works wonders. Go open bowling as much as you can to get used to it.
It stays there, but it is pulling on the knuckle.
All my balls are not fitted properly. I had a feeling the Ball was too loose and my pro shop guy said no it should fit loose 🤦🏽♂️
I've always known my balls never fit properly. I have to squeeze the heck out of it to keep it on my hand. It will fall off immediately if I do this.
I learned to bowl using my dad's equipment so I've always had to squeeze the heck out of it since his fingers/thumb/hands were much bigger than mine at the time. I knew this wasn't right but I learned to be a really good bowler even with this awful technique.
Now, I still squeeze the hell out of it, still have the same very short backswing with a bent elbow that I learned to bowl with so the ball wouldn't just fly off my hand and I still have the same problem, even with being fitted for my own equipment now. I also have major arthritis in my bowling fingers, probably from doing it wrong for so many years.
I can put a foam work glove on (thin glove) and cram my hand into the ball and it will stay on when I hang it by my side. I could also take a vertical backswing if I wanted to while wearing this glove.
Maybe all this means is I just need smaller finger/thumb holes? Maybe I need to try tape? I've never had problems blistering, even with my extreme squeeze-grip, so I've never even tried bowling tape. I don't think my hand will survive for too long if I keep this up.
Falls off. I thought my pro shop knew what they were doing, maybe they don’t.
Holy smokes, ALL of ny balls must be wrong then. Cause if i hold it down and relax, it falls off EASILY.. which wouid also explain why i am gripping the ball... Gitta add tape or get ut redrilled. Which tou were in Florida.
Who else was worried the kid might get hurt ?😅
My ball driller is the best in western pa. I tried the thumb test as you suggested. The ball falls off when it is supposed too. Thanks! 🎳
Could you tell me what pro shop you use and the persons name?