They're your machines and you should do with them however you like. I respect that and it's too bad Ubuntu and Microsoft don't understand that concept. And this is coming from a Firefox user since Netscape Navigator Gold 3. Your hate for Firefox is the same exact hate I've always had for Internet Exploder. Good riddance IE!
as a Firefox user, the forced snap was poorly integrated into my system and reset my Firefox settings. it was VERY aggressive about being installed I ended up adding a PPA and an apt pin to prevent it from installing Firefox from the main source, only from that PPA. I'll check again in my system doc how I did this after eating and edit this/reply if needed. edit: to update firefox via a regular package rather than snap, add ppa:mozillateam/ppa as a source for the apt pin, create a text file in /etc/apt/preferences.d/ it should contain the following Package: firefox* Pin: release o=Ubuntu Pin-Priority: -1 this tells apt to ignore any package starting with the name firefox that comes from the main ubuntu source
@@kevinrineer5356 to update firefox via a regular package rather than snap, add ppa:mozillateam/ppa as a source for the apt pin, create a text file in /etc/apt/preferences.d/ it should contain the following Package: firefox* Pin: release o=Ubuntu Pin-Priority: -1 this tells apt to ignore any package starting with the name firefox that comes from the main ubuntu source ill add this in an edit too
I like Firefox. it works fine for me. But ubuntu is acting more like a typical corporate entity than a real Linux alternative. Of course, I think this video is ironic considering that, a few years ago, you were suggesting that Mint was getting too angry about Ubuntu installing snap with their version of a chromium installation. 😄 That's okay, though, we live and learn. Great video rant and I like all your videos!
This is crazy! I thought they replaced your Firefox package install with a snap, which also seemed annoying but more reasonable. But adding a snap for Firefox without it being installed is nuts. I don't understand the point about Firefox not being cross platform though. What's different between the Linux and Windows versions of Firefox?
I respect your browser choice, and linux distro's should too more importantly. I dont understand what you mean Firefox isnt cross platform compatible? I use Firefox on my Linux, Mac and Windows systems? Is that different than what you meant?
Yes, Firefox has packages for those OS's but there are things about how Chrome handles syncing and updating that I like much better. No time for detail in a rant. LOL :)
Hey Joe. Just love the rant. Because of you I became a Mint user some six years ago now. I've also spread out into Fedora (Cinnamon) and Arch installations (again, with Cinnamon), but Mint is my first love. Ubuntu? I absolutely hate it, although the user forums are top notch. Sorry to hear you're so turned off about Firefox. I think I've been on FF for at least 15 years now and am aware of it's issues, but I stick with it because of the Gekko engine. What this means (among many other things) is that my Ad-blocker add-on still functions perfectly in UA-cam's INSANE ad environment. Take care, Joe. Once again, LOVE your content!
I use Debian for this reason. To hell with Ubuntu and forcing snaps down my throat. I need Firefox so I get it direct from them. I'd do the same with Chrome.
I can confirm Ubuntu does the same thing for chromium too. Just installed Ubuntu studio on bare metal to use the save desktop flatpak to save the studio layout. The first update I ran, Ubuntu automatically installed chromium as a snap when I don’t ask for it and makes chromium the default browser too. Found out some core stuff, cups and Firefox installed as snaps by default. Also when I installed flatpak, Ubuntu actively tried to block it and flatpaks don’t show up in the menus.
When I install an operating system, I only want the basics that make the OS function. I want to choose all of the other applications that I use: internet browser, word processors, etc. 👍👍👍👍
NOTICE: Yes, Firefox is cross platform... I was talking more about VBox there but I still don't like how Firefox works with syncing. Sorry fur-fox fans. :)
My goodness Joe, you're really fired up!! You need to call Martin Wimpress or Alan Pope and get this sh!t straightened out! On a more serious note, NO ONE likes Snaps, but Canonical does what it wants to do.
Is it possible that Firefox was suggested or recommended by some other package and the author had not disabled installation of recommended/suggested packages (which is enabled by default)? 🤔
I love firefox but I totally understand your great annoyance that it is being installed against your will. A really poor move by Ubuntu. P.S. I'm pretty sure my linux firefox is the same as the firefox I installed on my work laptop .
I agree with your sentiments here. No software should be pushed upon a user. Personally, I prefer Firefox simply because they go a step further with regards to privacy. I dislike that Google collects so much data from their users, such as search data and websites visited. I have recently de-googled my phone and installed GrapheneOS, and literally dropped off Google's radar. I just feel better about it. As far as Linux distributions are concerned, I moved away from Ubuntu and their derived distro's a long time ago and moved to Q4OS. I started with KDE desktop in the late 90's, and now I've gone full circle, and love KDE Plasma 5 desktop, and I no longer have to deal with snap or flatpak. Am I a dinosaur? Maybe, but I don't care. I'm just very old school, and the older I get, the more resistive to change I become. :)
I don't understand what you mean about needing to use the "googly" version of chrome rather than just chromium because it is "cross platform". I'm pretty sure chromium is cross platform and you can install that on windows too (don't know about Mac). Am I missing something?
Hey Joe, could you do a Firefox video? I have been using it for a while now without any problems and would like to know why I shouldn't use it. I've always thought that anyting Google or Microsoft was poison so that's why I use Firefox.
I agree with you stance about an OS should not force a user into a specific way of using their product. I also agree that not everything you use day to day can be FOSS. However, I use Firefox on my phone, windows and Linux machines and they all seem to talk to each other ok. They sync history, bookmarks, extensions ECT. I'm curious what chrome does cross platform wise that Firefox either does not or can not in your opinion.
Hey Joe, been a while since I've commented on one of your videos, however, still try to watch each one of interest as you produce them. Not trying to stir a hornet's nest here, but I don't remember why you don't like Firefox. I agree with you about the being forced part. I just didn't remember the Firefox part. I use it typically as my main browser because it's cross platform, and it lets me use browser extensions for a few apps I have, that Chrome no longer supports. I'm still using my Mac, so Safari is also a browser that I use at times, but am considering Linux going forward. I still use a mix of open source, and closed source software, but have been able to find more open source alternatives that I am happy to use. My browsers include: Firefox Chrome Brave Edge Safari Hope things are going well with you, have a great day!
I hope you feel better Joe lol it's so funny listening to you ranting but I do understand I personally don't like Google but we all different and all have are own preferences .
I agree with Joe, except I like Firefox but I use Brave and Librewolf. I've be a Debian user since 1996. I think the Linux user should be allowed to setup their system anyway they want...even login as root without being told the world will end. It's my system. I don't need to be protected.
I'm using Mint 21 and Zorin 16 pro but theses will be my last uses of any Ubuntu LTS. It seems now with any new install, the multimedia codecs installation does not include ubuntu-restricted-extras, and blocks the apt cache release of it, even if you try it in a terminal. This disabes the function of VLC unless you install the Snaps version. I agree wholeheartedly with you on the reasons why we choose Linux in the first place, to avoid being manipulated in this way. Goodbye Ubuntu, hello Debian, can't wait for the Debian 12 LMDE !
I jumped away from Ubuntu because of their registration requirement for certain updates. I have more than 5 virtual machines and don't want to pay for updates on all of them.
That sucks that it’s reinstalled. I’d understand if it’s installed by default so new users could access the internet on a fresh install. It’d be nice if they’d asked what browser you’d prefer to use on setup rather than preselect Firefox for you. I love Firefox, but people should also have a choice too.
One man's meat is an other man's posion 😅 what ever floats your boat Joe, I won't tell you what colour of sockes to wear if you wear them, I use Firefox it meets my needs, I also have chrome installed on 22.04 😅
Yeah, no snaps for me... :P Can anyone here please tell me if I am I safe to run MX Linux again when I reengage with Linux soon, or should I just make the jump over to Debian instead..? Where I have to think that ".Deb" packages will never be given their last rights..?
Agree. After the last update from Firefox which broke more crap than fix. Not a big fanboy of the other browser's out there but testing Edge right now and see how that goes.
Using Firefox on Linux Mint since v18. Flawless browsing with ability to block all the cruft, Do not like snap stuff. Love apt in a terminal. I dig the command line for OS manipulation on that level. Do not like my choices being made for me. As for Firefox cross compatibility, I have it on MS XP, 7, Apple High Sierra, and Linux Mint. It is the same on all platforms. I do the same with Libre Office and the GIMP, along with VLC. This stuff simply works and it has no antisocial share bs going on. My work is local. It is not on any cloud unles I put it there. There is the issue of trust and I have none.
This is why a lot of us went off on one about snaps long ago. Me, I've dumped Ubuntu and gone to plain ole Debian. Canonical are going down the RHEL road I reckon.
I agree about companies shoving software down your throat. It is the biggest dislike I have for cell phone companies and providers. I think I have 3 different browsers on my phone. Two of which I can't uninstall because they come Samsung and Google. There is a butt load of crap I don't use but can't uninstall. I don't love Firefox but I've used the mozilla stuff since NCSA Mosaic back in the early 90's. When I recently upgraded from LM 18.3 to 21.1 the first thing I did was remove the LM branded Firefox and installed Firefox in my home directory. Something I learned from Joe 😁
BIG FAIL!! You didn't piss me off.🤣 You're exactly right and the only distro (or sub distro in this case) I know off that has pulled these kinds of egregious boners is Ubuntu. I think they will soon discover that Canonical is not quite as canonical as they would like us to believe they are.
when ever i install new distro i download something else, and then purge firefox off all my systems. i can't stand it. ubuntu is trying to turn into microsoft. one of the reasons i love linux mint, they strip out snaps. woohoo.
Bwahaha love it. I personaly love firefox, never use anything else. I dont quite understand the non xplatform argument as I use it on win gnu/linux and android. Anyways tots agree with everythinng else ubuntu is dog and im never using it, As per reasons u have stated in this video. Cheers
Linux is about your own choice, so I understand your hatred for what Ubuntu is doing. I can't say I hate Firefox so much as I find Google Chrome better in 90% of scenarios... I keep both on my system mostly because Chrome decides to be stupid on certain downloads that are perfectly safe but because Google hasn't blessed the download (including my own github repos) I have to copy the link into firefox to download...Its hard for me to see considering they brought me into the linux-fold first. Linux Mint was the 2nd distro I used and the one I always came back to.
THIS is easy, they feel they has lost the Snap/flatpak racing(because they did) and they try to push snap on all the people they can, they remove flatpak/appimage from they distro. they make a snap only distro that will be the main one in a few years, they make a "new" app store there only install snaps for the next Ubuntu in Oct, this app store can do deb and snap now, but they remove the deb part before the release. why do they force update Firefox to snap ??? 1 + 1 = 2?
while i do enjoy my firefox (in a modded way), i'm quite pissed about how snaps or flatpaks are shoved down our throats by default these days. (*edit* certbot, anyone? ...snap, on a server?)
Virtualbox being cross platform is pointless, VMware is cross platform too, even kvm/qemu is cross platform for me - it’s just called utm on a Mac. From experience, virtualbox does not work well on Mac or windows. Windows inbuilt virtual manager called Hyper-V Manager, works better than virtualbox on windows. I found VMware and kvm/qemu work consistently on Linux, Mac and windows. Bsd systems use its own virtual machine manager called bhyve.
First of all: Hello, *Joe.* How've u been? Ubuntu and all its flavours have been coming with snap packages pre-installed by default. And soon they will become a whole snap package 'solution'. But do we have another OPTION? *DEBIAN!* Use Debian Testing and be happy! Or *MX Linux* - I would use *MX Linux* if I knew how to put it in the Testing version. I tried, but it failed. If someone knows how to put it in the Testing version without headbreaking issues, teach me, please.
The real problem is this Universe thing.. In the beginning it was created. This made a lot of people very unhappy and has generally been seen as a Bad Move!
I'm not a Mozilla fan either. I don''t really understand why it has so much support in the open-source community. It collects telemetry by default; it forced Brandon Eich's resignation (a Mozilla co-founder) for a very mainstream political opinion; and it doesn't support free-speech on the internet.
i don't agree with your statement about firefox, but that's fine, there are other open source chromium browser. but yes, forced installs are bullcrap, and any linux distro having that is completely unacceptable, corporate owned distros were always a bad idea
Rikki (realising that FF hardly contains any accessibility options): (*internal squealing*) In all seriousness: even if I end up using FF for random stuff, I will still use cross-platform browsers (sorry Opera GX Aura). Off to OpenSUSE I get
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personally, I would rather use Debian than Ubuntu now.
Came here to say this
I don’t blame you! Voyager Linux Debian version would also be a good choice! Any alternatives anyone?
@@ericjohnson5990 depends on what desktop environment you like, q4os is quite good for Debian plasma
@@ericjohnson5990 The amazing debian based Q4OS is a very great distro. MX Linux is also a very good debian based distro.
I just made the switch
I'm a FF user and Canonical doing this would piss me off regardless.
I'm in total agreement with you. I'm done with these corporate owned distros. I left Ubuntu years ago.
They're your machines and you should do with them however you like. I respect that and it's too bad Ubuntu and Microsoft don't understand that concept. And this is coming from a Firefox user since Netscape Navigator Gold 3. Your hate for Firefox is the same exact hate I've always had for Internet Exploder. Good riddance IE!
as a Firefox user, the forced snap was poorly integrated into my system and reset my Firefox settings. it was VERY aggressive about being installed
I ended up adding a PPA and an apt pin to prevent it from installing Firefox from the main source, only from that PPA.
I'll check again in my system doc how I did this after eating and edit this/reply if needed.
edit:
to update firefox via a regular package rather than snap, add ppa:mozillateam/ppa as a source
for the apt pin, create a text file in /etc/apt/preferences.d/
it should contain the following
Package: firefox*
Pin: release o=Ubuntu
Pin-Priority: -1
this tells apt to ignore any package starting with the name firefox that comes from the main ubuntu source
Following this comment
@@kevinrineer5356
to update firefox via a regular package rather than snap, add ppa:mozillateam/ppa as a source
for the apt pin, create a text file in /etc/apt/preferences.d/
it should contain the following
Package: firefox*
Pin: release o=Ubuntu
Pin-Priority: -1
this tells apt to ignore any package starting with the name firefox that comes from the main ubuntu source
ill add this in an edit too
I like Firefox. it works fine for me. But ubuntu is acting more like a typical corporate entity than a real Linux alternative. Of course, I think this video is ironic considering that, a few years ago, you were suggesting that Mint was getting too angry about Ubuntu installing snap with their version of a chromium installation. 😄 That's okay, though, we live and learn. Great video rant and I like all your videos!
This is crazy! I thought they replaced your Firefox package install with a snap, which also seemed annoying but more reasonable. But adding a snap for Firefox without it being installed is nuts.
I don't understand the point about Firefox not being cross platform though. What's different between the Linux and Windows versions of Firefox?
I was talking more about VBox there.... Firefox is cross platform but I still don't like it. :)
Just an fyi: Firefox isn't "Linux only". It works cross platform also.
Give 'em hell, Joe!
That said, I like Firefox; it's Microsoft's Edge browser which endlessly leaves me irked Thanks for the video. :-)
ubuntu should not have the right to force snap versions on you
I respect your browser choice, and linux distro's should too more importantly. I dont understand what you mean Firefox isnt cross platform compatible? I use Firefox on my Linux, Mac and Windows systems? Is that different than what you meant?
Yes, Firefox has packages for those OS's but there are things about how Chrome handles syncing and updating that I like much better. No time for detail in a rant. LOL :)
I'm allergic to Ubuntu, since first day we met.
Then i met Mint, the antidote.
happily ever after
i use mint and uninstalled firefox but i still get firefox updates.......
mint is very similar to ubuntu
Hey Joe. Just love the rant. Because of you I became a Mint user some six years ago now. I've also spread out into Fedora (Cinnamon) and Arch installations (again, with Cinnamon), but Mint is my first love. Ubuntu? I absolutely hate it, although the user forums are top notch. Sorry to hear you're so turned off about Firefox. I think I've been on FF for at least 15 years now and am aware of it's issues, but I stick with it because of the Gekko engine. What this means (among many other things) is that my Ad-blocker add-on still functions perfectly in UA-cam's INSANE ad environment.
Take care, Joe. Once again, LOVE your content!
For people who don't want to mess with SNAPs, the time is NOW to move to another distro.
I'm with ya Joe. I have been saying for over a year now it is MS-Ubuntu...
One more reason in a long list of why not to use Ubuntu!!!
LLAP 🖖
I use Debian for this reason. To hell with Ubuntu and forcing snaps down my throat.
I need Firefox so I get it direct from them. I'd do the same with Chrome.
I can confirm Ubuntu does the same thing for chromium too. Just installed Ubuntu studio on bare metal to use the save desktop flatpak to save the studio layout. The first update I ran, Ubuntu automatically installed chromium as a snap when I don’t ask for it and makes chromium the default browser too. Found out some core stuff, cups and Firefox installed as snaps by default. Also when I installed flatpak, Ubuntu actively tried to block it and flatpaks don’t show up in the menus.
When I install an operating system, I only want the basics that make the OS function.
I want to choose all of the other applications that I use: internet browser, word processors, etc.
👍👍👍👍
NOTICE: Yes, Firefox is cross platform... I was talking more about VBox there but I still don't like how Firefox works with syncing. Sorry fur-fox fans. :)
I'm less of a "firefox" fan and more of a "Fck Google" person while I use UA-cam :D
My goodness Joe, you're really fired up!! You need to call Martin Wimpress or Alan Pope and get this sh!t straightened out! On a more serious note, NO ONE likes Snaps, but Canonical does what it wants to do.
Wimpy and Popey left years ago now.... We don't have strong community leaders like that working for Canonical these days. Unfortunately.
@@EzeeLinux Joe, I thought they were still with Canonical, but after a search I see they left a couple of years ago.
Is it possible that Firefox was suggested or recommended by some other package and the author had not disabled installation of recommended/suggested packages (which is enabled by default)? 🤔
Joe, have you seen Chris Titus' latest video about Linux distros?
I dropped Ubuntu when it installed that Amazom junk.
That's when they lost me trust.
Dam straight Joe,this is why I run Mint
I am new to snap concept. But why are there two installations of the same software? Why have snap package and an apt package?
I love firefox but I totally understand your great annoyance that it is being installed against your will. A really poor move by Ubuntu.
P.S. I'm pretty sure my linux firefox is the same as the firefox I installed on my work laptop .
I agree that cross platform compatible is something important! Thank you
I agree with your sentiments here. No software should be pushed upon a user. Personally, I prefer Firefox simply because they go a step further with regards to privacy. I dislike that Google collects so much data from their users, such as search data and websites visited. I have recently de-googled my phone and installed GrapheneOS, and literally dropped off Google's radar. I just feel better about it. As far as Linux distributions are concerned, I moved away from Ubuntu and their derived distro's a long time ago and moved to Q4OS. I started with KDE desktop in the late 90's, and now I've gone full circle, and love KDE Plasma 5 desktop, and I no longer have to deal with snap or flatpak. Am I a dinosaur? Maybe, but I don't care. I'm just very old school, and the older I get, the more resistive to change I become. :)
I don't understand what you mean about needing to use the "googly" version of chrome rather than just chromium because it is "cross platform". I'm pretty sure chromium is cross platform and you can install that on windows too (don't know about Mac). Am I missing something?
no sync. i use edge instead.
If you want a wall garden, you have to deal with the gardener...
On ipv6 only network, snaps fail to install, regular packages work
I don't use Ubuntu any longer,I use Linux Mint and Debian now and have no grief from dictators any more.
Hey Joe, could you do a Firefox video? I have been using it for a while now without any problems and would like to know why I shouldn't use it. I've always thought that anyting Google or Microsoft was poison so that's why I use Firefox.
Firefox is a great browser. Stick with it.
What is Firefox not compatible with?
Oh Joe you never made me mad. 😆 I thought your little rant was amusing especially by the end!
The TL;DW Joe channels his inner Linus Torvalds
@Joe - You had me ROTFLMAO with the Richard Stallman comment. TY
I agree with you stance about an OS should not force a user into a specific way of using their product. I also agree that not everything you use day to day can be FOSS.
However, I use Firefox on my phone, windows and Linux machines and they all seem to talk to each other ok. They sync history, bookmarks, extensions ECT. I'm curious what chrome does cross platform wise that Firefox either does not or can not in your opinion.
I guess it's time for Mint?
Perfect. You said it all.
Oh snap
You are absolutely correct about pissing people off!
100% agree. And It's not just Ubuntu
Hey Joe, been a while since I've commented on one of your videos, however, still try to watch each one of interest as you produce them. Not trying to stir a hornet's nest here, but I don't remember why you don't like Firefox. I agree with you about the being forced part. I just didn't remember the Firefox part. I use it typically as my main browser because it's cross platform, and it lets me use browser extensions for a few apps I have, that Chrome no longer supports. I'm still using my Mac, so Safari is also a browser that I use at times, but am considering Linux going forward. I still use a mix of open source, and closed source software, but have been able to find more open source alternatives that I am happy to use.
My browsers include:
Firefox
Chrome
Brave
Edge
Safari
Hope things are going well with you, have a great day!
Hey Moziller.... I don't want anything you have.
I love you Joe XD
Busted!!!! Caught red-handed!
Joe - everything you said Joe - I concur and empathise with it all.
I hope you feel better Joe lol it's so funny listening to you ranting but I do understand I personally don't like Google but we all different and all have are own preferences .
I agree with Joe, except I like Firefox but I use Brave and Librewolf. I've be a Debian user since 1996. I think the Linux user should be allowed to setup their system anyway they want...even login as root without being told the world will end. It's my system. I don't need to be protected.
I'm using Mint 21 and Zorin 16 pro but theses will be my last uses of any Ubuntu LTS. It seems now with any new install, the multimedia codecs installation does not include ubuntu-restricted-extras, and blocks the apt cache release of it, even if you try it in a terminal. This disabes the function of VLC unless you install the Snaps version. I agree wholeheartedly with you on the reasons why we choose Linux in the first place, to avoid being manipulated in this way. Goodbye Ubuntu, hello Debian, can't wait for the Debian 12 LMDE !
I jumped away from Ubuntu because of their registration requirement for certain updates. I have more than 5 virtual machines and don't want to pay for updates on all of them.
That sucks that it’s reinstalled. I’d understand if it’s installed by default so new users could access the internet on a fresh install. It’d be nice if they’d asked what browser you’d prefer to use on setup rather than preselect Firefox for you. I love Firefox, but people should also have a choice too.
One man's meat is an other man's posion 😅 what ever floats your boat Joe, I won't tell you what colour of sockes to wear if you wear them, I use Firefox it meets my needs, I also have chrome installed on 22.04 😅
Well done Joe!!
Yeah, no snaps for me... :P
Can anyone here please tell me if I am I safe to run MX Linux again when I reengage with Linux soon, or should I just make the jump over to Debian instead..? Where I have to think that ".Deb" packages will never be given their last rights..?
I love Firefox, but I'll defend your right to not have it.
Agree. After the last update from Firefox which broke more crap than fix. Not a big fanboy of the other browser's out there but testing Edge right now and see how that goes.
Using Firefox on Linux Mint since v18. Flawless browsing with ability to block all the cruft, Do not like snap stuff. Love apt in a terminal. I dig the command line for OS manipulation on that level. Do not like my choices being made for me.
As for Firefox cross compatibility, I have it on MS XP, 7, Apple High Sierra, and Linux Mint. It is the same on all platforms. I do the same with Libre Office and the GIMP, along with VLC. This stuff simply works and it has no antisocial share bs going on. My work is local. It is not on any cloud unles I put it there. There is the issue of trust and I have none.
I'm not mad. I'm using Linux Mint MATE!
manjaro do it the same way, so to say, where are we going?
This is why a lot of us went off on one about snaps long ago. Me, I've dumped Ubuntu and gone to plain ole Debian. Canonical are going down the RHEL road I reckon.
I guess lmde is going to be the goat
Joe's a little grumpy.
Ubuntu? Isn’t that for Windows users? Personally I do my linuxing in the enterprise space so it’s all RHEL or Rocky for me.
Go penguin 🐧 power
Preach it brother! I don't like Firefox either, and I dislike snaps even more.
Firefox is the only competed against Chromium browser, we should appreciate that, dude.
I am so glad my distro disabled snaps. I will consider using flatpaks, but i will never touch snaps. Also i hate firefox too.
Joe, Yay! Dale
Firefox make you fire 😂
I agree with JC
i agree, i like to choose what software to use. Nevertheless i like firefox.
Oh Snap :D
Mint.
😂 Though I love Firefox!
I agree about companies shoving software down your throat. It is the biggest dislike I have for cell phone companies and providers. I think I have 3 different browsers on my phone. Two of which I can't uninstall because they come Samsung and Google. There is a butt load of crap I don't use but can't uninstall. I don't love Firefox but I've used the mozilla stuff since NCSA Mosaic back in the early 90's. When I recently upgraded from LM 18.3 to 21.1 the first thing I did was remove the LM branded Firefox and installed Firefox in my home directory. Something I learned from Joe 😁
BIG FAIL!!
You didn't piss me off.🤣 You're exactly right and the only distro (or sub distro in this case) I know off that has pulled these kinds of egregious boners is Ubuntu. I think they will soon discover that Canonical is not quite as canonical as they would like us to believe they are.
Canonical not being 'canonical'
@@edgarmartinez7371 I've used this line IRL and people know what I meant.
when ever i install new distro i download something else, and then purge firefox off all my systems. i can't stand it. ubuntu is trying to turn into microsoft. one of the reasons i love linux mint, they strip out snaps. woohoo.
Bwahaha love it. I personaly love firefox, never use anything else. I dont quite understand the non xplatform argument as I use it on win gnu/linux and android. Anyways tots agree with everythinng else ubuntu is dog and im never using it, As per reasons u have stated in this video. Cheers
Love ffx myself, don't like forced installs I didn't initiate, surprised they didn't snap push internet explorer or Cortana 😂
Eva, Sarah, Matilda: (*raging*)
Do you use Google Chrome instead?
Linux is about your own choice, so I understand your hatred for what Ubuntu is doing. I can't say I hate Firefox so much as I find Google Chrome better in 90% of scenarios... I keep both on my system mostly because Chrome decides to be stupid on certain downloads that are perfectly safe but because Google hasn't blessed the download (including my own github repos) I have to copy the link into firefox to download...Its hard for me to see considering they brought me into the linux-fold first. Linux Mint was the 2nd distro I used and the one I always came back to.
I have to use Chrome for work. No way around that. My personal browser is Brave but I use FF for some things
One more reason I'm happy I dumped Ubuntu about a decade ago
lol
good video joe
i use win10+arch linux
i use microsoft edge
on arch linux
Time for an arch/arch derivative? Your BU script for an arch would be cool..
All ya have to do is edit it for Arch.... Not hard... If you can install Arch you can edit a simple script... LOL
LLAP 🖖
THIS is easy, they feel they has lost the Snap/flatpak racing(because they did) and they try to push snap on all the people they can, they remove flatpak/appimage from they distro.
they make a snap only distro that will be the main one in a few years, they make a "new" app store there only install snaps for the next Ubuntu in Oct, this app store can do deb and snap now, but they remove the deb part before the release.
why do they force update Firefox to snap ??? 1 + 1 = 2?
it is time to stop using Ubuntu
while i do enjoy my firefox (in a modded way), i'm quite pissed about how snaps or flatpaks are shoved down our throats by default these days. (*edit* certbot, anyone? ...snap, on a server?)
I like snaps as much as I like being constipated. Flat doesn't bother me at all. I find it works well.
Virtualbox being cross platform is pointless, VMware is cross platform too, even kvm/qemu is cross platform for me - it’s just called utm on a Mac. From experience, virtualbox does not work well on Mac or windows. Windows inbuilt virtual manager called Hyper-V Manager, works better than virtualbox on windows. I found VMware and kvm/qemu work consistently on Linux, Mac and windows. Bsd systems use its own virtual machine manager called bhyve.
Ubuntu is the Devil. I would never use it!
First of all: Hello, *Joe.* How've u been?
Ubuntu and all its flavours have been coming with snap packages pre-installed by default. And soon they will become a whole snap package 'solution'.
But do we have another OPTION? *DEBIAN!* Use Debian Testing and be happy!
Or *MX Linux* - I would use *MX Linux* if I knew how to put it in the Testing version. I tried, but it failed.
If someone knows how to put it in the Testing version without headbreaking issues, teach me, please.
Wow now ubuntu updating your dependencies too without you knowing?
Now that is just sad 😂
Basically Ubuntu is Windows now, so why use it at all?
Not sure If you're mad at Ubuntu, Firefox or life.
The real problem is this Universe thing.. In the beginning it was created. This made a lot of people very unhappy and has generally been seen as a Bad Move!
I'm not a Mozilla fan either. I don''t really understand why it has so much support in the open-source community. It collects telemetry by default; it forced Brandon Eich's resignation (a Mozilla co-founder) for a very mainstream political opinion; and it doesn't support free-speech on the internet.
i don't agree with your statement about firefox, but that's fine, there are other open source chromium browser. but yes, forced installs are bullcrap, and any linux distro having that is completely unacceptable, corporate owned distros were always a bad idea
Rikki (realising that FF hardly contains any accessibility options): (*internal squealing*)
In all seriousness: even if I end up using FF for random stuff, I will still use cross-platform browsers (sorry Opera GX Aura).
Off to OpenSUSE I get
just switch to mint.
That's annoying!!
Use Debian. Last Ubuntu I used was 16.04. Now Ubuntu is dead for me.
Hey can you please help me out? I have tried before on my Dell XPS 13 and found my wifi card to have issues running there... Any way to fix that..?
@@notapplicable2636 You can change the wifi card to another one that works well on Linux.