Wow, people complaining about the New York scene being dead in the early 80's, while today everyone in NY complains about how they wish it was the early 80's again...#irony
it feels dead when people stop inviting you to the cool new thing. most large melting pot cities have their perennial underground scenes. sometimes they come and go so fast the mainstream never even hears about it. the trick is to publicise your scene by populating it with plenty of photographers, journalists and a peppering of famous people passing through
i am just some dude i dont matter, but this has always been my opinion or view on things. and this sort of goes for all musical subcultures that have come and gone, pretty much when they first start they are very small and the people in them are strange and creative and it is interesting, then as it starts to get any exposure at all more and ore people slowly then quickly flood in. but it is a different quality of people, essentially it is followers and not leaders or creators and scenes become watered down very fast and with in a very short time of just a couple of years the truly creative people that made that scene will have moved onto something else. for me personally by the time the 80s hit the interesting people in the punk scene had moved on and it had turned into the hardcore scene which i have never been impressed with, and yeah now that scene was exploding but we all know it was just tons and tons of boring uninteresting suburban kids exploding with youthful angst but no creativity or originality. now through the years i constantly meet people that were those youthful suburban hardcore kids and they all want to argue and picture themselves as having been so cool and interesting, i thought i was so cool and interesting when i was young too but i have gotten older and i have gotten over myself. lets try another view, i have for decades always heard people ask what was the difference between the American punk scene and the English punk scene. and this is how i have always seen it. the American scene at the very start of it all was made up of people that were already in their 20s and even 30s, it was people that really were sort of outcast and had already spent years in weird art scenes. where as the English scene was primarily a lot of young rebellious teenagers, they saw it as something new nd exciting and it exploded fast. and the publicity was off the charts as young arrogant kids courted the attention , and hey when we were skinny teenagers with weird hair and clothes we looked great and took nice pictures and really influenced our peers. and so the chaos of the media coverage made its way to America and our young angry rebellious teens were excited by it and thats what led to that big hardcore scene, as people took the most simple and basic aspects of punk "fast and simple and hard" and extreme it. to me that was boring and uncreative and so were the majority of kids i would have been meeting that were into it. so again while the kids were flooding into the hardcore scene and it was exploding, the slightly older more creative and interesting kids had moved on from punk and were playing what would come to be called post punk, still experimenting and growing. so yeah im sure for Lydia who had been there early on, the early 80s hardcore scene was probably boring as hell and filled with people that were already much younger than her and what the hell do they have interesting to say to her? what complaining about Reagan and Thatcher, or their parents, teachers and the police. what riveting conversation.
So many punk and no wave artists were like Lydia at the time, but Lunch was the most vocal of them all so now she gets all the shit in the world by people who don't know her art or who she is, she was a pioneer of female led punk/rock music, if only people knew what everyone else was saying and doing back then. I mean that was just the culture. It's kind of how none of what happened in those scenes could ever happen today, everything being constantly recorded means nothing ever gets forgotten. I mean people like James Chance were slapping audience members just for fun lol, imagine that happening today.
I’m not so sure about that. Courtney probably pulled from a lot of different people, but frankly if she was ripping anyone off if was very obviously Kat Bjelland, though they were at one point friends.
One of the sexiest women ever. Hatred for typical roles and for music which should be a joke anyway. She's great. I love her. Always have. People are too serious about music and art piss off
The '80s were the BEST time for hair; Blixa, Genevieve McGuckin, Rowland S. Howard, Nick Cave, Lydia Lunch, Foetus, Beate Bartel, Gudrun Gut, Daniel Ash - I could go on.
@@deathmetaldouglas69 gosh, what? i thought his stand up was okay, but when his podcast came out, it turned me off immediately.so I'm not really surprised though..
@Kitty Foreman His name is Nardwuar, and is a very 'unique' and talented interviewer. Who once interviewed this lady(Among many artists like Kurt Cobain, Snoop dog, DaBaby ect. ). And she might be one of the most disrespectful and bratty geusts to ever be on his mega successful string of interviews. Search Nardwuar on UA-cam.
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Wow, people complaining about the New York scene being dead in the early 80's, while today everyone in NY complains about how they wish it was the early 80's again...#irony
it feels dead when people stop inviting you to the cool new thing. most large melting pot cities have their perennial underground scenes. sometimes they come and go so fast the mainstream never even hears about it. the trick is to publicise your scene by populating it with plenty of photographers, journalists and a peppering of famous people passing through
@@tartanhandbag lol underground in the rehash & phone addiction era
@@absrene Thats really odd because NYHC was exploding and evolving or at least was about to...
Yeah, it's a relative thing!
i am just some dude i dont matter, but this has always been my opinion or view on things. and this sort of goes for all musical subcultures that have come and gone, pretty much when they first start they are very small and the people in them are strange and creative and it is interesting, then as it starts to get any exposure at all more and ore people slowly then quickly flood in. but it is a different quality of people, essentially it is followers and not leaders or creators and scenes become watered down very fast and with in a very short time of just a couple of years the truly creative people that made that scene will have moved onto something else. for me personally by the time the 80s hit the interesting people in the punk scene had moved on and it had turned into the hardcore scene which i have never been impressed with, and yeah now that scene was exploding but we all know it was just tons and tons of boring uninteresting suburban kids exploding with youthful angst but no creativity or originality. now through the years i constantly meet people that were those youthful suburban hardcore kids and they all want to argue and picture themselves as having been so cool and interesting, i thought i was so cool and interesting when i was young too but i have gotten older and i have gotten over myself.
lets try another view, i have for decades always heard people ask what was the difference between the American punk scene and the English punk scene. and this is how i have always seen it. the American scene at the very start of it all was made up of people that were already in their 20s and even 30s, it was people that really were sort of outcast and had already spent years in weird art scenes. where as the English scene was primarily a lot of young rebellious teenagers, they saw it as something new nd exciting and it exploded fast. and the publicity was off the charts as young arrogant kids courted the attention , and hey when we were skinny teenagers with weird hair and clothes we looked great and took nice pictures and really influenced our peers. and so the chaos of the media coverage made its way to America and our young angry rebellious teens were excited by it and thats what led to that big hardcore scene, as people took the most simple and basic aspects of punk "fast and simple and hard" and extreme it. to me that was boring and uncreative and so were the majority of kids i would have been meeting that were into it. so again while the kids were flooding into the hardcore scene and it was exploding, the slightly older more creative and interesting kids had moved on from punk and were playing what would come to be called post punk, still experimenting and growing.
so yeah im sure for Lydia who had been there early on, the early 80s hardcore scene was probably boring as hell and filled with people that were already much younger than her and what the hell do they have interesting to say to her? what complaining about Reagan and Thatcher, or their parents, teachers and the police. what riveting conversation.
So many punk and no wave artists were like Lydia at the time, but Lunch was the most vocal of them all so now she gets all the shit in the world by people who don't know her art or who she is, she was a pioneer of female led punk/rock music, if only people knew what everyone else was saying and doing back then. I mean that was just the culture. It's kind of how none of what happened in those scenes could ever happen today, everything being constantly recorded means nothing ever gets forgotten. I mean people like James Chance were slapping audience members just for fun lol, imagine that happening today.
This explains where courtney love got her persona
They are not in the same building.......
@Kitty Foreman criticizing women is sexist
I’m not so sure about that. Courtney probably pulled from a lot of different people, but frankly if she was ripping anyone off if was very obviously Kat Bjelland, though they were at one point friends.
Courtney Love, that's a laugh. It's pretty bizarre she was once in Faith No More.
*`don´t go there´ (agAin!!)*
Holy crap Merle is like a Pre Raphaelite painting.
Didn't notice it until your comment but her pose in the thumbnail confirms this!
She’s extremely homely
@@isruliuspoppycock!
OK I'm convinced Kate Micucci studied Shirley Temple, and Aubrey Plaza studied Lydia Lunch.
I fucking adore her
She got caught up in her words a couple times
That’s sad that your adore this airhead
I LOVE PIGGIES TOO😂😂😂❤❤❤
Oink oink😂😂❤❤
Love her so much!
The 1st interviewer is Merle Ginsberg she was the female judge on season 1&2 of RuPaul's drag race before Michelle visage came aboard
wow
oK 🤔
Thank you for posting "Lydia Lunch Interviews on Videowave -- Oct. 1983, Nov. 1985."
quality pair of clips. really captures the spirit.
Lived in London for 2 years left her house 10 times and said nothing was going on. Lol
"When something becomes a totally extreme and intense and intimate, it's usually I guess filthy. That's where I tend to come in"
so deep huh? gosh i feel like an adult among emotionally inept teenagers
@@axelcats LMFAO
She gets it.
It’s lonely getting it.
but sometimes out of nowhere someone seems to understand. and thats enough for the next decade.
THATS BECAUSE SHE'S A WOMAN 😂😂.. SHE TO EMOTIONAL...
There was definitely a scene in LA in '83.
One of the sexiest women ever. Hatred for typical roles and for music which should be a joke anyway. She's great. I love her. Always have. People are too serious about music and art piss off
Sexiest woman ever? Lol. I would get my eyes checked.
U must be crazy
Yeah. Why not celebrate someone like her? More punk than Sid Vicious.
Love to see Marc’s interview! Anyone got it? :)
It is on schedule to be converted and restored, but given the current circumstances, within the next century
underground arts scenes are such fun
bahaha I love her so much
The second interviewer....is that the mother from A Nightmare on Elm Street?!
lydia would have been a perfect role in clerks
Dude, whatever happened to the New York scene ??? Duuude ....
how she plays with words, concepts and rhetorics..Awesome! Why every comment here have to do with if she is "nice" or a "bitch"? fuck it.
She’s a shithouse mate
Whatever happened to Merle Ginsberg?
She was a judge on RuPaul's Drag Race.
WOW WOMEN ARE SUCH HAPPY PEOPLE 🤣🤣...THIS IS WHAT WOMEN THINK THAT MEN ARE LIKE SO THEY WANT TO BE LIKE MEN😂😂😂... IM TOUGH GIRL...
HORRIBLE CLUB??? I hope she isn't referring to the notorious gothic batcave club. That club was hella cool.
They were talking about Daceteria
I am glad this exists. Holding up to friendly cross examination. She is beautiful and terrifying inside and out. Here's to the truth tellers.
this is the cringiest comment section i have ever seen lmao
the incels lol
Not as cringy as any of her interviews.
Why?
She's fucking amazing.
SHE'S AMAZINGLY GROSS!!!🤢🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮🤮
😂😂😂
❤❤❤
powell!
The interviewer is beautiful, Lydia is amazing.
una grande
salada? 🍲🍄🍅
so lovely
The 80s were a tragic time for hair
no offense but have you seen the hair in your videos
@@hjjabaljlaka5695 none of that is my hair, genius
The '80s were a magical time for hair; you're just envious because there was so much.
The '80s were the BEST time for hair; Blixa, Genevieve McGuckin, Rowland S. Howard, Nick Cave, Lydia Lunch, Foetus, Beate Bartel, Gudrun Gut, Daniel Ash - I could go on.
THANK YOU JOE ROGAN FOR EXPOSING THIS HAPPY WOMAN 😂😂😂
courtney love looks exactly like her but in a blonder version. well just physical
Merle Ginsberg was hot.
Buelligan88 she still is Merle was a judge on first few seasons of rupauls drag race
See my response to Bart Tare above.
she has dark smokey looks that almost belong to a past more classical era
No, she was cool. Beautiful lady, though.
hot, hot, hot!
How loveably narcissistic. Or narcissistically loveable.
is this the same woman joe rogan started screaming at?
unknowntuber unknowntuber you know it
Yep
Yes. That video turned me off to Rogan for a long time.
@@deathmetaldouglas69 gosh, what? i thought his stand up was okay, but when his podcast came out, it turned me off immediately.so I'm not really surprised though..
He put her in her place. Screw her.
0:56 I doubt that somehow though these days it would be believable. It's a more dangerous city than New York.
Жаль я не понимаю английский
Then perhaps you should hire a translator.
she was so fine
This is dopey talk
She was miles ahead of a group like the Police or Elvis Costello . A decade later she was getting even more brutal and intense .
Ahead of Elvis Costello? Are you mad?
Ahead of neither of the two. She can't sing or play!
@@adm8995 no. you're a tool.
Strange comparisons.
@@adm8995 He got uninteresting fast . Of course they were exploring different kinds of expression . Costello is more cheerful .
What a wonderfully awkward interview. Was she always this way?
Yes.
there's no doubt she is gorgeous here, and still is in her 50's
amazing.... loveeeeeeeeeeeee
Every interview I have seen with Lunch she just tries too hard. At what? Who knows.
“At what? Who knows.” 😂
The interviewer was a judge on the first two seasons of drag race.
SO FUNNY
She looked beautiful here
Cool!
Wow she’s always been so miserable and grumpy even when she was younger 🤣 I guess it’s her trademark persona…
*I think they should steal it🙃*
Nice
2:22
Wow that first Woman (is she from the UK) is beautiful. I am a gay male yet I cannot take my eyes off her…she looks so pure and friendly…❤
EDiT
Merle Ginsberg? see description
@@frankenspleanyes I researched right after I posted that comment.
Essa é lenda💙💙💙💙
That poor host. lol. I love you Lydia.
funny how this losers biggest print she left was being a rude to a extraordinarily nice man.
@Kitty Foreman Nardwuar
@Kitty Foreman His name is Nardwuar, and is a very 'unique' and talented interviewer. Who once interviewed this lady(Among many artists like Kurt Cobain, Snoop dog, DaBaby ect. ). And she might be one of the most disrespectful and bratty geusts to ever be on his mega successful string of interviews. Search Nardwuar on UA-cam.
@Kitty Foreman and your a manlet. go cry now manlet
@Kitty Foreman Sure manlet, i geuss thats just your normal interactions with other people LOL. Back to ur grandmas basement
what the fuck are gamers L O L and people into mumble rap even on these videos WHAT THE FUCK
She was gorgeous
I mean maybe if you have been in a Turkish prison camp for the last 30 years she might look about as appealing as a cold bowl of boiled lentils
Like a Matt Lucas character
are you for fucking real
Uhg...what an annoying personality. "Look at me...I'm so different. I'm always annoyed at everything. You just don't see how good I am."
Uuuuugggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ....nice hair tho
truth beauty love filth
What's not to like about Lydia Lunch?
Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!
She killed the new York scene
& bang-banged by henry [the] rollings !! P00F!!
Really? If that's true, Henry must have liked her taste in music.
Interviewer is better looking.
“People say that you‘re a bitch“ hahahhaa
She seems coked out of her head in all of these interviews
little girl trying to be so .......
mean mean meany! owen meany!!!!
Doidinha, coitada.
Pq coitada mow babyzinha gata
NOT PUNK AT ALL
boring
x yawn
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz boring
It took Joe Rogan to put this lady in her place.
Joe Rogan is the king of the hyper-testosteroneated douchebags. What has he ever contributed to society?
@@ModMokkaMatti More than Lydia Lunch.