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The D-pad isn't smaller, it's the exact same size! Everything on that thing is the exact same as the original! They didn't remake the controller, they used their old molds!
Yeah, and they sell out with 60-90 minutes, so you're scrambling to check out.. I quickly looked for something for 99 cents or 5 dollars, but I almost immediately gave up and just ate the $10 shipping.
Good point. I am planning ahead thanks to warnings from you and others about the 1 cent difference for free shipping. I pre-planned this out now, so you can add a game to your cart to help with this as well. Go to "games" and filter by "4.99 and under" (I chose Among Us at $3.50 on sale / $5 normal price). Or just add any other game you were interested in getting anyway and kill two birds with one stone.
I'd rather have nothing than something with poor performance. And honestly, 3rd parties have done terrific jobs with N64 Switch controllers, such as Retro-bit & Retro Fighters
@@RoXolid Good thing it doesn't perform poorly then. You not liking the feel is an entirely different issue. Works perfectly for what i's made for. If you don't like the authentic feel, fine, go with third party, but it doesn't perform poorly.
Besides the difficulty to attain, I spent every day checking from june to september, AND being limited to 4 (not able to buy as gifts for others). I have no issues with the controllers. And it's pretty much needed to play the NSO N64 games correctly. I bought 4 and I don't regret it a single moment. Games like Star Fox and Golden eye it's pretty much required. Plus the Mario Party games. Not only that but if you have muscle memory it allows you to play like normal. But to each their own. But as somebody who bought all 4 controllers in 2023, being 2024 now. I would buy again.
I think you've just forgotten what a new controller feels like. I bought a new, in the box, controller on eBay for my n64 and it's just as tight as the one I bought for my switch and I LOVE both. I bought an official ps3 controller a while back that was heinous in its sensitivity at first. Sometimes these things just have to be broken in.
If you want an authentic n64 experience, it doesn't get any better than this. Absolutely worth it if you want a controller like the original. I paid $100 for mine a year ago and it was still worth it imo.
@@RoXolid is it tighter than an OEM n64 controller? all my oem n64 controllers are well used and the sticks are loose af so i honestly don't know lol i just assumed it was comparable to a new oem stick
@@MTSGaming It does seem much tighter than an original N64 stick, but even taking 30-year old memories out for a moment, it's still much tighter than other contemporary analog sticks out there. To me it makes it unusable and why I have it stuck in the box, collecting dust now.
@@RoXolid that is fair, i only have a brawler64 to compare to as far as modern controllers which is a different joystick all together....the more that i think about it now though it does seem tighter than oem was lol
People keep blaming the "scalpers". But you know what I think? Either the people from Nintendo are extremely dumb, or they're the "scalpers". It shouldn't take almost a year for a company to restock and then run out under 1 hour because somehow they keep "miscalculating". No, Nintendo is doing this on purpose.
I have one, and I love it.. there's no substitute for the identical dimensions and layout, yes the control stick is tight, but it makes me feel like it's a brand new controller from 1996 whether that's how they were out of the box back then or not. Who knows, maybe it'll loosen up over time? It sounded like the vast majority of your review was positive. Usb-c is great, rumble is great, no button mapping required or extra bells and whistles.. just pure authentic nostalgia with wireless capability. I'll deal with the touchy control stick in exchange for that funky N64 controler style grip and button layout.
My cousins had a controller that was damn near never used and it's stick felt pretty much how these feel. They're only super easy to push from the amount of use and ground down plastic gears
I for one am very impressed with the controller, including the analog stick. Very close to the original in both functionality and feel, although not quite the same.
If this ever comes back in stock I want one. I find the 64 games impossible to play using either standard switch controller or pro controller and none of the third party ones like Brawler64 have that Z button in the right place which is the whole point of the classic controller, especially with the announcement that Goldeneye is coming I need that trigger in the middle
is it worth it for 50? no, its still kinda neat to have though. Something to buy when you feel like treating yourself to something. I bought mine for 40, which its still not worth it at that price. But it does make playing the N64 much better. Wish Nintendo would put smash on there already.
Analog input on NSO feels like smeary inaccurate garbage compared to playing on real console. The wireless controller is very nice and feels authentic but the way the NSO emulator handles the inputs is what is so wrong with the feel of the emulator.
you cant get one without having a Switch and signed up under their system, anyway; officially unless find a reseller that can garentee its authenticity
I can't get a hold of one of these if my life depended on it. But I am not giving the scalpers on ebay the time of day. I wonder if this works with Project 64 on PC? Yes I know your stance on emulation, but I am still curious lol. I have both the Genesis and 6 button Megadrive controllers, and I must say they are very well built. But sadly, it does not pair to the 8bitdo wireless receiver for Genesis. I hope they eventually release a firmware to make this possible. Have you been able to get a hold of the Famicom joycons yet? Great, honest review as always Gary.
I wish this controller was available to purchase still on Nintendo's site but unfortunately only the usual scalpers are selling it on Amazon and Ebay, etc now..
Supply chain shortage because they can’t make enough of these controllers. Not many people still can’t afford Nintendo Switch Online because they like to play on original hardware. This is all difficult & impractical.
Is the disappointment with the analogue stick just because more modern 3rd party versions are closer to modern switch or other console hardware? How does it compare to an original N64 controller stick?
I agree the N64's joystick is not a great design (it's pretty bad), but if want a newer style of joystick, you should really be using a pro controller, or just the joy-cons. I feel like these are just supposed to be a 100% accurate recreation of the old controllers, but wireless. And in that regard, I think they're spot-on
Thanks for watching and commenting. These are just my personal experiences and my opinions. If you like it, you know what I will admit I am thrilled for you. Just not something I enjoyed.
I just recently picked up the Retro Fighters style n64 controller to play NSO games with. And it's a much better experience imo versus using the original n64 controller. It has a layout more akin to a pro controller, with the standard stick placement and everything. Same price tho for around $50
@@RoXolid Thanks. I just added another comment. I looked into this today, I'm wondering if you should recalibrate the control sticks in the Switch settings. Is that a thing for this N64 controller? I can say that for PC emulation, a friend told me that they needed to go through the mapping/calibration so that the controls were "proper". Worth a try? I'm very curious!
is the switch n64 controller stick still poor quality ? i might get this for my n64 if the sticks are better , the problem with the n64 controller (official one) is that the bowl inside creates this dust that wears out and it’s annoying
I'm wondering if you need to recalibrate the control sticks, if you can do that in the Switch settings? I know you needed to do this on PC emulation or somebody told me that in the past. Any chance you would try?
@@RoXolid I'm so sad right now hearing this! Haha. I don't see Nintendo doing the right thing and having sensitivity settings which is unfortunate. I figured this recalibration would be the same as what the PC emulators required. That said, I still need to try the recalibration myself to be sure. My friend told me there was a technique to it.
they are readily available in stock if you have the Nintendo online account.some people tried to scalp but even on eBay they sell for original price now.
@@RoXolid yeah I know the mid 90's is where everyone's turning into their mid 20's, I mean like 30 years ago was since the release of the SNES by that time 👀
I’m REALLY glad I found your review! It really made me do my research and watch some other videos as well. It really seems like that stick is terrible. My main reason for wanting one has been for Goldeneye. I’ve seen several videos of people using one of these and it’s extremely difficult to even get lined up for a shot. (Especially a sniper shot) Thank you for saving me from making a mistake!
The stick is not terrible but if you never have used a real N64 controller and are more familiar with modern controllers since the N64, it won't feel right. I was able to finally buy a pair from Nintendo and they are pretty good for what an N64 controller is. They take a bit of breakin. I also put joy-con rubber caps on them and they fit nicely. I also have the latest Retro Fighters modern N64 NSO controllers. They have a nice analog stick, not the best but you won't notice. I can see opening the NSO controllers and lube the inside of the analog stick but I do love using them.
@@RoXolid Oh I do agree that these are a little too tight. I do remember the original controllers not behaving consistent either, maybe that has also been replicated? I don't have any sensitivity issues with mine but they definitely have that ridge feeling like there is a horizontal and vertical 'hump' to cross over. They are a nostalgia piece and I would recommend the Retro Fighters to anyone not wanting that. I have a Retrobit Tribute64 USB controller too, kinda small for large hands, not a lot of space in the button layout, terrible dpad.
@@RoXolid The Wireless Tribute 64 is listed as currently unavailable on Amazon. It might be on Castlemania's site but I didn't look too hard as it appears to be more expensive there. I didn't consider the Brawler 64. Admittedly I'd prefer the Tribute over it. I do enjoy the wired Tribute and would prefer to stick with that controller lineage.
I agree - the price but realistically I watched a teardown of one & it us definitely made primo! Lots of work & parts put in it so realistically it is worth 50 bux BUT the sega genesis controller?!? Maybe 20 bux tops!
Getting mine soon. I can’t deal with the pro controller controls for the N64 emulation. It really translates poorly imo I really hope the stick isn’t too big of an issue. I own so many 3rd party n64 controllers and the stick always becomes defective after a few weeks
The tribute 64 or Brawler 64 and other N64 controller alternatives do not allow you to play some games in the specific way that you may require. Such as, in Goldeneye 007, I have to use the D-pad on the left and my R hand in the center for the control stick. That is the most modern way to control that game. I cannot do that with those other alternative controllers. I must use the original style controller for certain games to be playable.
I’m writing this in the middle of the video so I apologize in advance if you answer this question in said video. Do you have any recommendations on what controller you use with the Nintendo N64 online? I have not subscribed to it yet because I haven’t been able to score one of the official ones from Nintendo. Is there a way to sue one of the 3rd party N64 controllers with the online system? I know at the beginning it really wasn’t possible. Has that changed? I hope all is well with you and the family Gary and thanks in advance for the help. 👍. Edit: looks like you answered my question. The Brawler 64 and another one both will work 100% with the online system??
If you want one your gonna have to play scalpers its not really the scalpers fault its Nintendo's for not making enough supply and demand if that wasn't the issue then people would be scalping switch pro controllers but there's no point of scalping those as its easy to get them.
Me and my buddy love the Nintendo switch 64 controller it actually works way good and the games that we play Someday Gary you’re gonna have to come join us
Maybe I'll just pay the extra $20 and get one from Japan, since the shipping is $10 and since we can't buy them here. That's great that the d pad is smaller...
I don't think I ever liked the stick either especially once the Dual Shock came out, but Nintendo still hasn't give the ability to adjust the x and y sensitivity speed on their Switch for the Pro Controller. For Star Fox and and for Golden Eye, I pretty much need to play with the N64 controller, so if it's identical to an original controller I'm fine with it. It does suck though. Don't get me started on their stupid "hold down the ZR button to momentarily change X and A to UP and RIGHT buttons". Shame on whoever came up with that.
The controller runs fine. Pricey but works. I’d be more concerned about Nintendo ruining games with patches that force you to play games the way they intended instead of how you want to play them.
Hey Rox, im doing retro emulation for n64 on the Nvidia shield. Is there any specific controller you would recommend for this? I have been using Xbox elite but it's not ideal as almost every button needs to remapped.
You know, that'd be a good idea for a discussion video because you are 100% spot on and I've thought of that myself in the past. Because of the Nintendo switch and the online services that is Nintendo's focus and why we never got an N64 Mini. I'm honestly a bit surprised that Sega is doing a Genesis Mini 2
@@RoXolid Exact. Why would Nintendo spend the time and money on Minis when they are making monthly subscription continues cash on N64. It wouldn't be a smart business tactic. Less people would buy the subscription and just buy a console and call it a day. Yup.
Shame they didn't modify the Analogue Stick, but kudos for all the work Nintendo are putting into their legacy systems and games. Perhaps they could send someone over to have a chat with Sony 🤣
The "gamecube style" sticks are absolutely awful. The sensitivity is extreme and they have large deadzones making games borderline unplayable. Don't get them.
After Mario party 1 hit the switch N64 online my stick feels way better with all that palm rotation, doesn't feel too stiff anymore LOL But it still just doesnt move the same I find it hard to be as accurate as I could with the original stick It just sucks they're constantly unavailable and I can't get a second one for my boyfriend to use so he doesn't have to deal with the crappy unmappable switch button setup
They need to meet demand with these. It's crazy a controller is so hard to get. Using the regular switch controller isn't the best experience for the N64 games.
There are other alternatives, the brawler 64 and tribute 64 have both been updated to be compatible with the switch online services and they are fantastic
@@DapperAF there's a new version of the brawler coming that I want to say is either 40 or $50 that is optimized for switch online. That's at worst the same price as the Nintendo version at best $10 cheaper
@@DapperAF Here's some more information retrofighters.com/our-collection/brawler64-bluetooth-wireless-nintendo-switch-switch-online-pc-video-game-controller/
The USB version? There's not a way to update the firmware on that to put it into an NSO mode, as it were. But I'll reach out to them to see if they have plans to update it.
@@RoXolid Oh ok . Console x is an emulator console. But I have real hardware also . When I don’t feel like digging out one of my boxed systems I play on my emulator systems. I have the switch with Mario all stars but I don’t pay or online upgraded so the switch n64 controller doesn’t make mush sense for me unless I could use it on my real 64 or emulators . Thanks for your review
The stick of the Switch N64 Online controller is really bad. As you've experienced yourself, it's too sensitive but that's not all that is bad about it. Internally it's the worst of both new sticks and the original N64 stick. It has the same parts that wore down really fast on the original but also uses the same electrical resistance based hardware that tends to develop stick drift over time on newer style sticks. The original N64 controller had optical encoder wheels instead that don't develop any drift over time and can have an even smaller (nearly zero) dead zone than modern sticks. While I'm not 100% sure, sensitivity is something that could've been addressed with proper manufacturer calibration and adjustments. Either way, it's a pretty sloppy product Nintendo brought to market.
@@mariokart8715 From my experience it not something that's common with GC, PS2 and PS3 controllers. However, those old controllers used to have larger dead zones than current ones, meaning there is more room for error before a stick would start drifting but that also means older sticks are less ideal for finer movements. Stick drift is a problem with Nintendo's (Pro-Controllers), Sony's and Microsoft's current controllers as they use largely the same parts and similarly small dead zones. Oddly enough, my launch model joycons are still fine, but I had several PS4 controllers drift on me. I wish we'd to back to optical sensors or maybe try hall effect sensors on analog sticks but I guess reliability is not a desirable trait for current day manufacturers.
Ugh. Ok, I have another question. What about the wired version of the Tribute controller? Will that work with N64 online? It seems that the wireless devices are sold out on Castlemania and Amazon. Unless you know where I can order a wireless controller I may have to get a wired one for now. This sucks. HELP. Lol
I bought 2 when they released awhile ago. Kept one in box (always able to sell it to pay for both) and have the other one out of box. I want to use it for PC but haven’t tried it yet. I have 0 intention on playing Switch N64 games as I have a great computer that can emulate way better, don’t need to subscribe for something that should be free and also have the OG N64 console with an everdrive. The tribute64 and brawler64 are great options as well but nothing beats that original controller feel. Wish it could work on the OG console!
Well we are in the Bluetooth era, third party n64 controllers were if not worse then mediocre back in the day. If we wanna play some leisure nice portable n64 in handheld mode we already use joycons plus there’s a lot of other options. I don’t think you need it really for anything too technical except perhaps maybe real specific scenarios like Zelda Oot glitches such as dot skip but nothing is impossible without that remote. I have 5, one still boxed, it does make it convenient for get togethers when a group is gonna play n64 and I need controllers. EDIT: however might feel better if used in smash 64 if and when it ever drops
I got two straight as they were released played not an hour with it now I keep both on the shell for decoration and collecting ... n64 service from nintendo is terrible.. they should better release the n64 games on an physical collection card than this shitty online stuff... no thanks
Well... I paid $150 for it because of the lack of stock and impossible to get in my country and I'M SO HAPPY! I can even use it on my OG N64 thanks to a bluetooth dongle.
Ugh c'mon man... you're encouraging scalpers to keep scalping. And you gave into it. You just make it hard for everyone else to hope to buy one at a fair price. And definitely you got ripped off, not at all worth $150.00.
You can use on pc. Simply connect with Bluetooth or usb. Your pc may need drivers, specifically. Should be able to find drivers pretty easy if you need them, you got this buddy!
You're entitled to your opinion, and I to mine. The ergonomics are spot on but the analog stick isn't as good IMO. So as this is my channel where I share my views, I will not STFU, but I can't wait to see your take and review on your channel.
@@RoXolid lol, yes i suppose ur entitled to being wrong if u want but what did u expect, they wanted it as close to the original as possible if not then the same & we all know how that 1 is lol. I don't plan on doing a review so
Not wrong just different. Just like the fact that I hate the Xbox controller and I know many people love it. I also know many people don't like the PlayStation controllers and those are my favorites
@@RoXolid i don't play those so i wouldn't know but yes it would appear u are just odd & that being the case u give off false views. Like if someone said skittles tasted weird but neglected to tell others they don't have a regular tongue & or have sensitive or odd taste buds. Sure they can't fool those who already had them but to those who hadn't they might discourage them from trying them out. If u have an odd love for thing u should tell ur viewers that i guess idk
@@Salvypapi87 You must be new around here as I am transparent with my dislike of Xbox controllers and preference for Playstation. Also, I have a like-new OG N64 controller and it the stick performance is much superior to the NSO version. An opinion is just that, not a false (not fauls) view. In my opinion, the stick on the NSO controller isn't as good as the original.
Hall effects should add a lot of longevity and now you can get 8bitdo mod kits to retrofit original n64 controllers to include Bluetooth and hall sticks. They are competitively priced and the sticks work just about as good as the originals once calibrated, at least according to the majority of reviews I watched, still waiting on mine to be delivered.
@@jayjayhooksch1 Hey 👋🏻 Yes the need to replace and calibrate the sensors (potentiometers) is extensive on normal sticks. Hopefully these issues are addressed and dealt with in the near future. Thanks for reading my comment. 🙏
@@jayjayhooksch1 I have seen people having issues with those GC-like HAL-sticks, and they aren't getting full 360º angles. Is that a calibration issue of some sort? Because that's a big issue, if not.
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The D-pad isn't smaller, it's the exact same size! Everything on that thing is the exact same as the original! They didn't remake the controller, they used their old molds!
Correct
Nintendo charges $49.99 for these and you need $50 to get free shipping on their site. That is the most Nintendo thing I've ever heard.
No lies detected
This is not exklusiv to Nintendo...
Many Shops work like this.
Yeah, and they sell out with 60-90 minutes, so you're scrambling to check out.. I quickly looked for something for 99 cents or 5 dollars, but I almost immediately gave up and just ate the $10 shipping.
Good point. I am planning ahead thanks to warnings from you and others about the 1 cent difference for free shipping. I pre-planned this out now, so you can add a game to your cart to help with this as well. Go to "games" and filter by "4.99 and under" (I chose Among Us at $3.50 on sale / $5 normal price). Or just add any other game you were interested in getting anyway and kill two birds with one stone.
@@crzycowboy8 do you know about how much the shipping costs?
Well, 50 bucks for a brandnew wireless N64 Controller is still better than 80 for a Joy Con pair.
nintendo fans be ranting about the wrong things the fact that nintendo would even put in the "effort" to reprint these is insane.
I'd rather have nothing than something with poor performance. And honestly, 3rd parties have done terrific jobs with N64 Switch controllers, such as Retro-bit & Retro Fighters
@@RoXolid Good thing it doesn't perform poorly then. You not liking the feel is an entirely different issue. Works perfectly for what i's made for. If you don't like the authentic feel, fine, go with third party, but it doesn't perform poorly.
In my opinion the analog stick performs terribly compared to the original. It is much too sensitive and much too firm.
I thought it was too cool to pass up. Is $50 too much? Yes, but I still bought 4.
Besides the difficulty to attain, I spent every day checking from june to september, AND being limited to 4 (not able to buy as gifts for others). I have no issues with the controllers. And it's pretty much needed to play the NSO N64 games correctly. I bought 4 and I don't regret it a single moment. Games like Star Fox and Golden eye it's pretty much required. Plus the Mario Party games. Not only that but if you have muscle memory it allows you to play like normal. But to each their own. But as somebody who bought all 4 controllers in 2023, being 2024 now. I would buy again.
I think you've just forgotten what a new controller feels like. I bought a new, in the box, controller on eBay for my n64 and it's just as tight as the one I bought for my switch and I LOVE both. I bought an official ps3 controller a while back that was heinous in its sensitivity at first. Sometimes these things just have to be broken in.
I actually have a new-ish N64 controller just for this, and no, this one is far too stiff IMO.
If you want an authentic n64 experience, it doesn't get any better than this. Absolutely worth it if you want a controller like the original. I paid $100 for mine a year ago and it was still worth it imo.
Everything except the analog stick i am with you on. the stick is just wayyyy too tight
@@RoXolid is it tighter than an OEM n64 controller? all my oem n64 controllers are well used and the sticks are loose af so i honestly don't know lol i just assumed it was comparable to a new oem stick
@@MTSGaming It does seem much tighter than an original N64 stick, but even taking 30-year old memories out for a moment, it's still much tighter than other contemporary analog sticks out there. To me it makes it unusable and why I have it stuck in the box, collecting dust now.
@@RoXolid that is fair, i only have a brawler64 to compare to as far as modern controllers which is a different joystick all together....the more that i think about it now though it does seem tighter than oem was lol
I love the original controller, I will never get one of these as Nintendo doesn’t want me to have one. 🤷🏻♂️
People keep blaming the "scalpers". But you know what I think? Either the people from Nintendo are extremely dumb, or they're the "scalpers". It shouldn't take almost a year for a company to restock and then run out under 1 hour because somehow they keep "miscalculating". No, Nintendo is doing this on purpose.
I have one, and I love it.. there's no substitute for the identical dimensions and layout, yes the control stick is tight, but it makes me feel like it's a brand new controller from 1996 whether that's how they were out of the box back then or not. Who knows, maybe it'll loosen up over time? It sounded like the vast majority of your review was positive. Usb-c is great, rumble is great, no button mapping required or extra bells and whistles.. just pure authentic nostalgia with wireless capability. I'll deal with the touchy control stick in exchange for that funky N64 controler style grip and button layout.
Still ur stick work good?
My cousins had a controller that was damn near never used and it's stick felt pretty much how these feel. They're only super easy to push from the amount of use and ground down plastic gears
I for one am very impressed with the controller, including the analog stick. Very close to the original in both functionality and feel, although not quite the same.
I did not feel the same but that's just me
If this ever comes back in stock I want one. I find the 64 games impossible to play using either standard switch controller or pro controller and none of the third party ones like Brawler64 have that Z button in the right place which is the whole point of the classic controller, especially with the announcement that Goldeneye is coming I need that trigger in the middle
Hey, shout out from Brazil, you got blessed by the UA-cam augorithm or whatever the way it is written. Nice video! Sorry for the bad english.
Yeah this guy did get blessed from the UA-cam algorithm, this appeared on my recommended and only at 1k views dauym
Honestly the stick feels fine to me reminds me of my 64 controller before i played mario party as a kid lol
is it worth it for 50? no, its still kinda neat to have though. Something to buy when you feel like treating yourself to something. I bought mine for 40, which its still not worth it at that price. But it does make playing the N64 much better. Wish Nintendo would put smash on there already.
Analog input on NSO feels like smeary inaccurate garbage compared to playing on real console. The wireless controller is very nice and feels authentic but the way the NSO emulator handles the inputs is what is so wrong with the feel of the emulator.
try syncing your controller with the usb wires included, that may help solve your issue.
I pretty much only use it with bluetooth on my pc for emulation and it feels a lot better than the n64 online app
you cant get one without having a Switch and signed up under their system, anyway; officially unless find a reseller that can garentee its authenticity
I can't get a hold of one of these if my life depended on it. But I am not giving the scalpers on ebay the time of day. I wonder if this works with Project 64 on PC? Yes I know your stance on emulation, but I am still curious lol. I have both the Genesis and 6 button Megadrive controllers, and I must say they are very well built. But sadly, it does not pair to the 8bitdo wireless receiver for Genesis. I hope they eventually release a firmware to make this possible. Have you been able to get a hold of the Famicom joycons yet? Great, honest review as always Gary.
This channel is one of the best! Honest reviews are hard to come by
Thank you so much for the kind words, it means a lot and I really do appreciate it
I wish this controller was available to purchase still on Nintendo's site but unfortunately only the usual scalpers are selling it on Amazon and Ebay, etc now..
I will sell you my soul for one......Im serious brother. This is the controller I'm used to.
Follow on Twitter, these were just available again yesterday!
Supply chain shortage because they can’t make enough of these controllers. Not many people still can’t afford Nintendo Switch Online because they like to play on original hardware. This is all difficult & impractical.
Is the disappointment with the analogue stick just because more modern 3rd party versions are closer to modern switch or other console hardware? How does it compare to an original N64 controller stick?
I agree the N64's joystick is not a great design (it's pretty bad), but if want a newer style of joystick, you should really be using a pro controller, or just the joy-cons. I feel like these are just supposed to be a 100% accurate recreation of the old controllers, but wireless. And in that regard, I think they're spot-on
But you gotta remember. The n64 controllers never drifted. Maybe that won't either. I'd gladly take switch analog stick for one like that
They may not have drifted but they definitely developed slop over the years
I still want one. Its annoying how hard they are to get. I wish they would also release some funtastic colors.
I think the funtastic colors would be awesome
They are hard to obtain because of the global supply chain shortages.
Generally a lot of bad takes here. Especially the stick
Thanks for watching and commenting. These are just my personal experiences and my opinions. If you like it, you know what I will admit I am thrilled for you. Just not something I enjoyed.
yeah the title kinda misleading, I thought the controllers were poorly made or had some problems.
@@starfy1289 In my opinion the Stick is poorly made/designed
you mean it fails to replicate the original?@@RoXolid
@@starfy1289 In so much as the resistance iss too tight and the accuracy isn't there either, yes
I'm just confused on what is the best Nintendo 64 controller
I like the Brawler 64 myself
@@RoXolid thank you and I apologize for that whole situation
how the hell can I get c up and c right to work on my nintendo 64 switch controller!?
I just recently picked up the Retro Fighters style n64 controller to play NSO games with. And it's a much better experience imo versus using the original n64 controller. It has a layout more akin to a pro controller, with the standard stick placement and everything. Same price tho for around $50
Do you know how to close games without the x button or do you just need to use a different controller for that?
Click on a different game and open it but don’t select a profile
If you've got N64 controllers laying around, there is an Adapter for Switch from Mayflash. Works great
Yeah I've seen them
Thanks for this. Do you know how many N64 controllers you can connect to one Switch system? I heard someone saying on 2 max. True or no? Thanks!
I thought 4 but I only have 1 to test
@@RoXolid Thanks. I just added another comment. I looked into this today, I'm wondering if you should recalibrate the control sticks in the Switch settings. Is that a thing for this N64 controller? I can say that for PC emulation, a friend told me that they needed to go through the mapping/calibration so that the controls were "proper". Worth a try? I'm very curious!
is the switch n64 controller stick still poor quality ? i might get this for my n64 if the sticks are better , the problem with the n64 controller (official one) is that the bowl inside creates this dust that wears out and it’s annoying
It's not great to be honest. The Tribute 64 or Brawler 64 are much better for the NSO
I'm wondering if you need to recalibrate the control sticks, if you can do that in the Switch settings? I know you needed to do this on PC emulation or somebody told me that in the past. Any chance you would try?
I have and it does not make a difference but good suggestion
@@RoXolid I'm so sad right now hearing this! Haha. I don't see Nintendo doing the right thing and having sensitivity settings which is unfortunate. I figured this recalibration would be the same as what the PC emulators required. That said, I still need to try the recalibration myself to be sure. My friend told me there was a technique to it.
@@user-wl7dt1uw2e I get that
they are readily available in stock if you have the Nintendo online account.some people tried to scalp but even on eBay they sell for original price now.
Definitely been more accessable recently
Dude, I'm not even 30 years old yet :0
Ooooof
@@RoXolid yeah I know the mid 90's is where everyone's turning into their mid 20's, I mean like 30 years ago was since the release of the SNES by that time 👀
Is it better than other N64 usb controllers? I hear Saffun is the best one in general.
I'm not really worrying about super Nintendo games I can just use my pro controller
I get that
I’m REALLY glad I found your review! It really made me do my research and watch some other videos as well. It really seems like that stick is terrible.
My main reason for wanting one has been for Goldeneye. I’ve seen several videos of people using one of these and it’s extremely difficult to even get lined up for a shot. (Especially a sniper shot) Thank you for saving me from making a mistake!
Glad I could help!
The stick is not terrible but if you never have used a real N64 controller and are more familiar with modern controllers since the N64, it won't feel right. I was able to finally buy a pair from Nintendo and they are pretty good for what an N64 controller is. They take a bit of breakin. I also put joy-con rubber caps on them and they fit nicely. I also have the latest Retro Fighters modern N64 NSO controllers. They have a nice analog stick, not the best but you won't notice. I can see opening the NSO controllers and lube the inside of the analog stick but I do love using them.
@@GiSWiG I had an N64 at launch, this has a much firmer spring and is more sensative around center than that was.
@@RoXolid Oh I do agree that these are a little too tight. I do remember the original controllers not behaving consistent either, maybe that has also been replicated? I don't have any sensitivity issues with mine but they definitely have that ridge feeling like there is a horizontal and vertical 'hump' to cross over. They are a nostalgia piece and I would recommend the Retro Fighters to anyone not wanting that. I have a Retrobit Tribute64 USB controller too, kinda small for large hands, not a lot of space in the button layout, terrible dpad.
Unfortunately I think the wireless Tribute 64 isn't currently available so... there may not be much of a choice here.
The Brawler 64? & the Tribute 64 hasn't been discontinued
@@RoXolid The Wireless Tribute 64 is listed as currently unavailable on Amazon. It might be on Castlemania's site but I didn't look too hard as it appears to be more expensive there.
I didn't consider the Brawler 64. Admittedly I'd prefer the Tribute over it. I do enjoy the wired Tribute and would prefer to stick with that controller lineage.
@@TBrizzle01 that's perfectly fine, and like I say it's not discontinued or anything so it'll be coming back soon
@@RoXolid Fingers crossed it returns soon.
I hope that you have a nice day!
I agree - the price but realistically I watched a teardown of one & it us definitely made primo! Lots of work & parts put in it so realistically it is worth 50 bux BUT the sega genesis controller?!? Maybe 20 bux tops!
Getting mine soon. I can’t deal with the pro controller controls for the N64 emulation. It really translates poorly imo
I really hope the stick isn’t too big of an issue. I own so many 3rd party n64 controllers and the stick always becomes defective after a few weeks
The joy cons are perfectly fine
The tribute 64 or Brawler 64 and other N64 controller alternatives do not allow you to play some games in the specific way that you may require. Such as, in Goldeneye 007, I have to use the D-pad on the left and my R hand in the center for the control stick. That is the most modern way to control that game. I cannot do that with those other alternative controllers. I must use the original style controller for certain games to be playable.
I’m writing this in the middle of the video so I apologize in advance if you answer this question in said video. Do you have any recommendations on what controller you use with the Nintendo N64 online? I have not subscribed to it yet because I haven’t been able to score one of the official ones from Nintendo. Is there a way to sue one of the 3rd party N64 controllers with the online system? I know at the beginning it really wasn’t possible. Has that changed? I hope all is well with you and the family Gary and thanks in advance for the help. 👍. Edit: looks like you answered my question. The Brawler 64 and another one both will work 100% with the online system??
The retrobit tribute 64 controller works with NSO if you upgrade the usb dongle's firmware, I have one of those and can confirm that.
N64 controller always had a LOT of movement in the analogue stick.
Are you talking slop or deadband around the stick?
Impossible to buy one, tried weekly for 8 months
I am proof it is not impossible. Difficult? Heck yeah, but not impossible
If you want one your gonna have to play scalpers its not really the scalpers fault its Nintendo's for not making enough supply and demand if that wasn't the issue then people would be scalping switch pro controllers but there's no point of scalping those as its easy to get them.
It might be worth it now that an adapter to use it on a real Nintendo 64 is coming out soon.
I have one now ;)
@@RoXolid really? Where can I find that adapter?
something to know, the stick on these uses potentiometers instead of the optical sensors the original used
Me and my buddy love the Nintendo switch 64 controller it actually works way good and the games that we play Someday Gary you’re gonna have to come join us
I'll admit I am not a fan, not at all.
Maybe I'll just pay the extra $20 and get one from Japan, since the shipping is $10 and since we can't buy them here.
That's great that the d pad is smaller...
It's fun to have in the collection but I just don't dig the stick
I don't think I ever liked the stick either especially once the Dual Shock came out, but Nintendo still hasn't give the ability to adjust the x and y sensitivity speed on their Switch for the Pro Controller. For Star Fox and and for Golden Eye, I pretty much need to play with the N64 controller, so if it's identical to an original controller I'm fine with it. It does suck though.
Don't get me started on their stupid "hold down the ZR button to momentarily change X and A to UP and RIGHT buttons". Shame on whoever came up with that.
The controller runs fine. Pricey but works. I’d be more concerned about Nintendo ruining games with patches that force you to play games the way they intended instead of how you want to play them.
The c sticks on the original was always bad for wear I used to take mine apart and clean out the plastic dust in it
Hey Rox, im doing retro emulation for n64 on the Nvidia shield. Is there any specific controller you would recommend for this? I have been using Xbox elite but it's not ideal as almost every button needs to remapped.
I don't do emulation so I am the wrong person to ask, sorry. I would question if the Shield would have the power to do it too, I have a Shield TV.
Thanks to this we aren't even going to ever get a N64 mini. Shame. But still epic of you N64 game up on the switch.
You know, that'd be a good idea for a discussion video because you are 100% spot on and I've thought of that myself in the past. Because of the Nintendo switch and the online services that is Nintendo's focus and why we never got an N64 Mini. I'm honestly a bit surprised that Sega is doing a Genesis Mini 2
@@RoXolid Exact. Why would Nintendo spend the time and money on Minis when they are making monthly subscription continues cash on N64. It wouldn't be a smart business tactic. Less people would buy the subscription and just buy a console and call it a day. Yup.
Shame they didn't modify the Analogue Stick, but kudos for all the work Nintendo are putting into their legacy systems and games. Perhaps they could send someone over to have a chat with Sony 🤣
What's an Analogue stick? ;) American humor there
It's hard to find & been sold out for almost a year now. How did you find one?
I follow Cheap Ass Gamer on Twitter, and they posted in-stock alerts.
Analog Stick definitely needs a update noticed modding the original 64 controller with gamecube parts have become popular
True, and I am looking into that for this, the problem is the gate did not have equal throw on a lot of those mods
The "gamecube style" sticks are absolutely awful. The sensitivity is extreme and they have large deadzones making games borderline unplayable. Don't get them.
You can use this controller for other games than just n64 games?
Yes
After Mario party 1 hit the switch N64 online my stick feels way better with all that palm rotation, doesn't feel too stiff anymore LOL
But it still just doesnt move the same I find it hard to be as accurate as I could with the original stick
It just sucks they're constantly unavailable and I can't get a second one for my boyfriend to use so he doesn't have to deal with the crappy unmappable switch button setup
So it wasn't worth the 70 I just paid? I only bought for collection purposes anyway.
I don't think so personally
I have a question. Does anyone know if this controller works with Shadow Man Remastered? Is Shadow Man playable like on the N64 with this?
It will work but there might be some things you can't do
They need to meet demand with these. It's crazy a controller is so hard to get. Using the regular switch controller isn't the best experience for the N64 games.
There are other alternatives, the brawler 64 and tribute 64 have both been updated to be compatible with the switch online services and they are fantastic
@@RoXolid thanks for the info! The cheaper options aren't wireless though and the one that is wireless is pretty expensive.
@@DapperAF there's a new version of the brawler coming that I want to say is either 40 or $50 that is optimized for switch online. That's at worst the same price as the Nintendo version at best $10 cheaper
@@RoXolid Oh sweet, i'll keep my eyes open for it! Thanks!
@@DapperAF Here's some more information
retrofighters.com/our-collection/brawler64-bluetooth-wireless-nintendo-switch-switch-online-pc-video-game-controller/
Can i also use the Wired Controller on NSO N64 with the right button mapping?
Which wired controller do you mean?
@@RoXolid the Retro-Bit Tribute 64
The USB version? There's not a way to update the firmware on that to put it into an NSO mode, as it were. But I'll reach out to them to see if they have plans to update it.
I wonder if a dongle on the super console x that would work with n64 wireless?
I use my snes wireless with my original snes with 8bitdo adapter
I have no idea what that is
@@RoXolid
Oh ok . Console x is an emulator console. But I have real hardware also . When I don’t feel like digging out one of my boxed systems I play on my emulator systems. I have the switch with Mario all stars but I don’t pay or online upgraded so the switch n64 controller doesn’t make mush sense for me unless I could use it on my real 64 or emulators . Thanks for your review
Is Nintendo Switch Online a commercial failure? It costs more or less than original hardware.
How did you get rid of the dotted borders
Dotted borders?
@@RoXolid i think they mean the terrible grey border on nso emulators.
The stick of the Switch N64 Online controller is really bad. As you've experienced yourself, it's too sensitive but that's not all that is bad about it.
Internally it's the worst of both new sticks and the original N64 stick. It has the same parts that wore down really fast on the original but also uses the same electrical resistance based hardware that tends to develop stick drift over time on newer style sticks. The original N64 controller had optical encoder wheels instead that don't develop any drift over time and can have an even smaller (nearly zero) dead zone than modern sticks.
While I'm not 100% sure, sensitivity is something that could've been addressed with proper manufacturer calibration and adjustments. Either way, it's a pretty sloppy product Nintendo brought to market.
It would have been nice to have a good analog stick
Did GameCube have this issue at all? Is Sony and Microsoft much better in the hardware business than Nintendo?
No, the GameCube controllers still hold up amazingly well even today. A popular mod is to put a GC stick in an N64 controller
@@mariokart8715 From my experience it not something that's common with GC, PS2 and PS3 controllers. However, those old controllers used to have larger dead zones than current ones, meaning there is more room for error before a stick would start drifting but that also means older sticks are less ideal for finer movements. Stick drift is a problem with Nintendo's (Pro-Controllers), Sony's and Microsoft's current controllers as they use largely the same parts and similarly small dead zones.
Oddly enough, my launch model joycons are still fine, but I had several PS4 controllers drift on me.
I wish we'd to back to optical sensors or maybe try hall effect sensors on analog sticks but I guess reliability is not a desirable trait for current day manufacturers.
PS1 controllers are still ok.
I'll stick with my Brawler 64.
I wonder if it's more accurate than the original Nintendo 64 usb one.
Ugh. Ok, I have another question. What about the wired version of the Tribute controller? Will that work with N64 online? It seems that the wireless devices are sold out on Castlemania and Amazon. Unless you know where I can order a wireless controller I may have to get a wired one for now. This sucks. HELP. Lol
Supply chain shortages
wired version has a super sensitive analog stick - buyer beware
Discontinue them.
Great review Gary!
Cheapassgamer is the best.
They are amazing for sure!
I bought 2 when they released awhile ago. Kept one in box (always able to sell it to pay for both) and have the other one out of box. I want to use it for PC but haven’t tried it yet. I have 0 intention on playing Switch N64 games as I have a great computer that can emulate way better, don’t need to subscribe for something that should be free and also have the OG N64 console with an everdrive. The tribute64 and brawler64 are great options as well but nothing beats that original controller feel. Wish it could work on the OG console!
I just did not care for the about stick
I'm assuming your taking to the other poster?
Ok, just wanted to verify
In 2023 what is the best controller for Nintendo 64 games on the Nintendo switch I don't know what to bye bye
Retro Fighters Brawler 64 is my go to
@@RoXolidWhat about the Tribute64?
I like it but I prefer the Brawler 64
@@RoXolid8bitdo retrofit mod kit
Can anyone tell me if this works on the pc?
No idea, sorry
I have used my NES Bluetooth on steam, they're recognized as joycons, maybe this one is recognized as a Pro Controller? I would say yes
Well we are in the Bluetooth era, third party n64 controllers were if not worse then mediocre back in the day. If we wanna play some leisure nice portable n64 in handheld mode we already use joycons plus there’s a lot of other options. I don’t think you need it really for anything too technical except perhaps maybe real specific scenarios like Zelda Oot glitches such as dot skip but nothing is impossible without that remote. I have 5, one still boxed, it does make it convenient for get togethers when a group is gonna play n64 and I need controllers.
EDIT: however might feel better if used in smash 64 if and when it ever drops
I got two straight as they were released played not an hour with it now I keep both on the shell for decoration and collecting ... n64 service from nintendo is terrible.. they should better release the n64 games on an physical collection card than this shitty online stuff... no thanks
Well... I paid $150 for it because of the lack of stock and impossible to get in my country and I'M SO HAPPY! I can even use it on my OG N64 thanks to a bluetooth dongle.
Oooof, definitely not worth $150
Ugh c'mon man... you're encouraging scalpers to keep scalping. And you gave into it. You just make it hard for everyone else to hope to buy one at a fair price. And definitely you got ripped off, not at all worth $150.00.
He's saying it's impossible in his country, and I feel that, Nintendo doesn't ship to my country neither, we really don't have other option 😢
Cant use with a pc so annoying
Well it's designed specifically for the switch so I don't know why you would find that surprising?
you can actually im pretty sure there are drivers for it now
Will 8bitdo or another adaptor let you use it with a PC?
@@viewtifuljon8105 not sure, sorry
You can use on pc. Simply connect with Bluetooth or usb. Your pc may need drivers, specifically. Should be able to find drivers pretty easy if you need them, you got this buddy!
Does it come with a usb adapter?
It does not
@@RoXolid ya i didnt wait up until the part where you showed the top with the sync feature. Thanks trying to get this for my modded wii U
Stfu, it feels just as amazing as if it was a new original controller!
I own 4 of them lol
You're entitled to your opinion, and I to mine. The ergonomics are spot on but the analog stick isn't as good IMO. So as this is my channel where I share my views, I will not STFU, but I can't wait to see your take and review on your channel.
@@RoXolid lol, yes i suppose ur entitled to being wrong if u want but what did u expect, they wanted it as close to the original as possible if not then the same & we all know how that 1 is lol. I don't plan on doing a review so
Not wrong just different. Just like the fact that I hate the Xbox controller and I know many people love it. I also know many people don't like the PlayStation controllers and those are my favorites
@@RoXolid i don't play those so i wouldn't know but yes it would appear u are just odd & that being the case u give off false views. Like if someone said skittles tasted weird but neglected to tell others they don't have a regular tongue & or have sensitive or odd taste buds. Sure they can't fool those who already had them but to those who hadn't they might discourage them from trying them out. If u have an odd love for thing u should tell ur viewers that i guess idk
@@Salvypapi87 You must be new around here as I am transparent with my dislike of Xbox controllers and preference for Playstation. Also, I have a like-new OG N64 controller and it the stick performance is much superior to the NSO version. An opinion is just that, not a false (not fauls) view. In my opinion, the stick on the NSO controller isn't as good as the original.
Analog sticks need to be replaced periodically. That's the downside with analog sticks. 😕
Hall effects should add a lot of longevity and now you can get 8bitdo mod kits to retrofit original n64 controllers to include Bluetooth and hall sticks. They are competitively priced and the sticks work just about as good as the originals once calibrated, at least according to the majority of reviews I watched, still waiting on mine to be delivered.
@@jayjayhooksch1 Hey 👋🏻 Yes the need to replace and calibrate the sensors (potentiometers) is extensive on normal sticks. Hopefully these issues are addressed and dealt with in the near future. Thanks for reading my comment. 🙏
@@jayjayhooksch1 I have seen people having issues with those GC-like HAL-sticks, and they aren't getting full 360º angles. Is that a calibration issue of some sort?
Because that's a big issue, if not.
Commercial failure after commercial failure and so on.
"Not a Great Experience" dislike
Did you watch it or just react to the title?
Sounds like a great recreation of a terrible controller!
Pretty much
The GameCube/Wavebird ones are much better.
The n64 controller has always been horrible