The New Expert Map Has A Crazy Twist... (Bloons TD 6)
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- The New Expert Map Has A Crazy Twist... BTD6 / Bloons TD 6 - glacial trail is the new map in update 40.0 that looks easier than it actually is - and that's because of the brand new gimmick that will freeze your towers! See how I tackle this freezing mechanic on CHIMPS mode with Corvus to boot.
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Despite the inaccurate difficulty, pretty cool map mechanic!
Also 13:41 today is opposite day
Check out the first Corvus showcase here: ua-cam.com/video/ewLQzuGBQQM/v-deo.html
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@BTDIsab what are you referring to as opposite day
@@fantage_lukeh2oas in the hero is actually bad (which I highly disagree with)
@@davidpff4131 no he meant he couldn't disagree more
I would say it belongs in expert just due to the extent of the mechanic, but then again; erosion and geared and advanced so what do I know?
Seeing ISAB not use the mana shield for the two camos killed me.
Isab should be investigated for this untimely death.
15:33 :)
also getting towers for camo means we get the $8 for popping the bloons instead of getting nothing by tanking it (all planned)
@@BTDIsabthose 9$ clearly mattered, I mean, look at how little you had left at the end!
@@BTDIsab Understandable, $8 is $8. I'd do _a lot_ of things for $8... Hit me up 😉
@@thomb.9013What do you mean?
10$ is nothing!
2:30 rare footage of ISAB calling the x3x druid "Druid of the Jungle" and not "Jungle of the Druid".
Wrath of Avatar
@@memeemporer11 vengeance of heart
@@demetriajones3231 forest of the spirt
i always wonder why he says flavored trades instead of favored trades
@@edvardskalva Clearly not a long time ISAB viewer XD
i think the issue with corvus is an even more extreme version of the geraldo issue: due to the very high skill ceiling, if the hero is balanced in a way where it is good enough for the average player to use, it would be incredibly overpowered when correctly min-maxed. on the other hand, if its balanced around being min-maxed correctly, it would be far too weak in the hands of a beginner.
That's actually a great way of looking at it. You can clearly get some crazy saveup with him, it just takes a lot.
so it's an issue of skill
a skill issue
I think thats the point of him. Hes meant to be strong when used correctly, but weak when used incorrectly.
Ehh tbh he isn’t even that difficult to play he’s just inconvenient and annoying to play which is why he isn’t used but if people actually took the little time to micro during the match he’s not that hard to use
Thank you isab for having a weird posting schedule
Fr tho
Woof woof
:3
fr
What do you mean by weird?
I actually tested Corvus on this map and was playing around with his spells when he froze. I clicked on the one that regenerates his other spells, he said his voice line, and- froze. So I was confused about that for a bit.
“dam this spell sucks” LMAO
I do think its funny how the effect 'snowballs'. Dropping all your towers on 1 and 2 means you need more help on those rounds, meaning you drop more towers on 1 and 2 meaning you need more...
Or you think ahead like I suck at battles
just upgrade the ones you already have
@@jwicy that wouldn’t work because they would be frozen during those 3 rounds
You have to plan ahead. This doesn't really affect planned runs where you know what beats what round. Only casual gold border runs mainly affected probably.
that isnt exactly how it works u could for example just place one on round 5 to help them
20:20 thank you isab for using your big hand to beat off the bloons
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In every game I've ever played, characters/items like corvus always end up powerful no matter how weak they look. The sheer amount of options always allow player skill to make them better than they seem. That and people always find some strong combinations.
I can just tell that this character is WAY too complex for me, personally. I might use him from time to time just to experience it, but never will I use him efficiently.
I don’t think Corvus is a bad hero, it’s just you have to constantly micro him to make him useful which is just not how I like to play or many others like to play, which is why people think he’s not good. For people who play btd6 more chill, he’s not a hero that will be used much as compared to heros like sauda who you can smack down and do very good on most maps.
thats prob why he’s 7k
Agreed. I've been messing with him on chimps and he's insane for save-ups. He can solo pretty much the entire midgame with good micro, with a little support for blimps. I think he's quite strong.
As a player with under 50 hours of gameplay, Corvus is extremely fun to use once you understand what each of his moves do. His spells are reliable thanks to global targeting and can greatly help out if you know what your struggles are. Etienne plays out similarly: Both requires support but Etienne can handle swarms whereas Corvus can help you deal big damage to certain boon types. Both are versatile and cannot carry themselves alone far without other high dps towers.
It seems that if you are not mindful of the freezing mechanic, it could lead you to a vicious cycle where your towers freeze and then drop more towers in the same round just for all of them to freeze again in the same rounds.
i love that theyre trying new gimmicks for maps to make them more interesting or harder - stuff like geared and covered garden were contest winning maps but their gimmicks are rad. midnight mansions space limits making bigger towers only work on the dressers is rad. freezing towers is a fun idea. heck; bloonarius primes weird track changing on prime numbers too - i love when they try new stuff to change things up and im glad they dont limit it or even mostly do it on easier maps which would definitely be the easiest thing they could do
Exactly!
i would love a map with a growing plant that has multiple stage over the 100 rounds. basicly a seed, when it grows it take anytower placed on the seed and elevate it. it grows leaves as elevation. the tower on the seed keep going up next stage on a flower that also act as elevation. and then a single pistil lift the same tower one last tim but no aditional plateform.
as every stage happend a suspended bridge is shot from trees acros the map and a new path is added. every new path is untargetable for anything below it. the last one even goes above flying units like phoenix ace and heli. unlike the slide in the water park map the path doesnt block sight they are just inaccessible.
Thats my idea.
Omg I never knew Bloonarius Prime changes Tracks on prime numbers.... which makes so much sense omg
@@captainphoton1693 that sounds splendid, if you can please submit it to ninjakiwi with some sort of stylized concept art and we might see it in the game eventually
@@rajkanishu thx
It'd be cool if the 400 and 500 tack shooter was also immune to the freeze because of the heat that it generates
I was so sad when 500 tack shooter got frozen
It would also be cool if every tower in range of 500 Tack not get frozen
Waiting for Gwen's Heat it Up passive ability and Fire Storm active ability to thaw out towers
or at least if the ice's texture changed
Isab saying "I am not gonna spoil the twist" meanwhile the thumbnail💀 thanks isab
God Ninja Kiwi is so good, they're such an awesome and creative dev team. This is such a sick concept!!
"I'll just use ancestral might to beat this off. Just one big hand is all we need"
I love that Ice towers don’t freeze but fire towers like tack and Gwen shouldn’t feeeze either
Yeah. I think fire and ice towers should be immune to freezing.
Does lightning ball/super storm get frozen? It can also freeze, that's why i ask
True, but I doubt they'd nerf the map considering how easy people say it is.
Is it the only immune option?
nah
This reminds me of Frostbite Caves from Plants Vs. Zombies 2 so much
Btd6 players: 😨
PvZ2 players: 💀
And that’s why 0-3-2 hot potato comes in clutch everytime
@@APersonThatsnapdragon pepper pult grid:
Heli gets frozen but will still push back bloons and moabs combined with ice and skpikes you can do a pseudo stall strat on those rounds where the heli gets frozen, it's pretty good
1 tower challenge with corvus will be so fun to see, ngl
most likely it won't be a definite highest round, but something that ppl will try to maximize
dies round 33
maybe not on logs but it will eventually just die to a camo round
@@pigmacpigthe one hero challenge has a camo village
@@daveba981 oh i thought you were talking about 1tc, just realized im an idiot because you cant even afford corvus
Corvus is really weird, if you don’t know how to use him or forget to use his spells then he’s pretty bad, but optimally he might be the best hero in the game, except it’s extremely hard to use him optimally
Corvus is the epitome of a skill cannon. He requires even more micro than Geraldo but he has some of the highest potential in the game. (Although I'd argue that Vengeful Sun God Adora on non-Chimps is the strongest hero in the game.)
@@xbigbooshx4643if u have vtsg u alr won. or at least until the late, late, game in the multiple hundreds. at that pt just use ezili
id argue geraldo is still better, even if assuming you have perfect corvus micro
His micro is ez but constant he can fill any niche or two at the same time for free he can solo a bad kill 63 or 76 he can freeze or push moabs and crush any round his only weakness is the player
he’s very strong i soloed until 96 on cubism with him and mib, i saved over 130k
Post 50's you can reliably leave Agression and Spear on without losing any mana since there's so many bloons. Plus if you time his lvl 3 and lvl 10 correctly you can do some insane combos. Personally my favorite is, for late game dps use echo followed by the nuke ability for complete MOAB destruction.
Challenge Idea: Beating CHIMPS with only the 5 cheapest tier 5 monkey upgrades, Cheapest hero, on whatever map you think. Love the videos Isab!
10:28 Corvus can buy Archmage by this round on Ravine. 34k saveup and it happens before 60. Of course, this run doesn't make much use of Corvus and still makes it to 30k saveup...
In my case I would have had a Corvus black border on this map last night if I had remembered that AMD doesn't protect 025 spact from frozen bloons, but I didn't, so after I struggled trying to replicate it I just went with Sauda instead.
For some funny starts: Ninja can beat round 6 with some micro, then with any extra damage tower can beat round 7 and 8 (Beast Handler requires micro for 8 to hit a green but was my preferred choice due to AMD later), then gets Ninja Discipline to hold all the way through 13. Druid can upgrade itself to 110 and beat every round through round 10, and can beat round 11 but only if you exit out to main menu and reload the save. Sauda solos through round 14, though you want to add defenses before 15 to stagger freeze times.
I'd consider the map Advanced, freeze timings are harder to work around than DC/Infernal lategame but every phase of the game is easier than every true expert map. A major quirk of the map is that it's hard to play on your back foot; if you place towers when your key existing defense is frozen, your new towers will get frozen on the same cycle and in 10 rounds you'll be back at square 1.
Oh, and you want to place the alch on the same cycle as what it's buffing. Alch buffs still go to frozen towers, might as well have both freeze at the same time.
btw the level 10 can be used as a great way to get levels without stopping his damage output. Unlike the level 3, the level 10 has a lingering effect that gives a huge amount of mana if Bloons are popping near him. So you can drain him, pop the lvl 10, refill to max, level him up, and max out the mana again, all while keeping up his Spear + Aggression
He really can stack alot of spells at the same time. Spear + Aggression + Storm + Frostbound + Echo and just keep spamming lvl 3 and lvl 10 to recover mana.
Thankfully I wasn’t spoiled I played the map and Corvus instantly when the update came out and had so much fun testing the two out. Corvus is such a fun hero and I really love this map! It’s height areas are so cool and the obstacles! Also the freeze effect is great! I really love those little gimmicks that make it harder and fun. I love how for an expert map it’s pretty long yet there’s really limited space and can’t use a sniper to use the length either which is so great!
Even without hot keys, I would love to be able to double tap to enable / disable spells. Saves a lot of hand movement and makes things faster, which is really important for a micro intensive hero.
13:35 Corvus stall potential is crazy with repeal + frozen, i was doint a 2mp with him and every late game round i was hitting the ability use cap for him and not even using 50% of the length of logs (had only him, moab glue, gluestorm and a mib until round 98, where i had to get an AZ and extra support)
Pretty sure for camo early game you could have used the mana shield from Corvus
Why doesn't fusty the snowman have an exception to the freezing rule?
they probably don't want hero skins to matter
Wonder how 2tc will work out on this map
It would be cool if all fire monkeys were immune to being frozen
Modded challenge run you could do on this map is maybe when a tower turns to ice it just becomes an ice monkey while keeping the number of upgrades the original tower had
Trouble is, ice is TERRIBLE against moab class when unsuported. So you'd basically just sell and treat the mechanic as a money sink.
Unless you mean a temporary transformation.
@@fractalgem the way I was thinking about it was that the ice is either unsellable or sells for much less. The main challenge is that you only have 10 rounds with any tower that you make before it disappears, but when it disappears it’s not totally useless. Overall it might be needed to be done on an easier map but idk
I hope NK doesn't nerf Corvus the way they nerfed Geraldo, although to be fair he doesn't seem glaringly overpowered so maybe he'll be safe
One thing to note is that Ice Monkeys don't get frozen so one option is to use ice monkeys as your main tower, issue there is that white and zebra bloons will kill you flat out.
13:43 "You just have to use him right". Proceeds to use harvest with a full mana pool.
Corvus is a super fun hero, he makes this tower defense game like an action game more than it already is
"The snow is steadily melting... Perhaps because spring is coming, or it might be the palace collapsing."
It was really cool to see how corvus worked here. It looks like his strength really comes from his wide utility over raw damage. Though he has a lot of that too.
Hold up, Soul Barrier gives up to 760 Lives in Chimps, a DDT is 660 Lives:
You can now tank DDTs in Chimps, thanks NK
Imagine a 2tc on this map.
LMAO BEST COMMENT HERE
Any tower with a fire based attack should also not get frozen lol
4:30 you can use Corvus' Life ability on chimps, it does, in fact prevent you from losing lives
thank you ISAB for trying your best to not spoil the twist while still putting it the thumbnail
Thank GOD for the explanation on the gimmick lmfao. I was SO confused as to why ALL of my towers were frozen on the same rounds, making them impossible LMAO
Fun fact Moab shove also works even if the heli is frozen lol
A Monkey Ace freezes but still flies around, so a flying lump of ice occurs if you use one.
Something cool I noticed. Bottom left of the map is a frozen dart monkey with 10 written on the ice
Fun facr: If a moab shove is frozen above the track then it still shoves the moabs.
Corvus = ISAB’s best friend (no mortar)
A fun little addition should be Gwen,inferno ring, ring of fire can’t be frozen either
It could probably also work with avatar of wrath, could literally be too angry to freeze
Also middle path wizard monkey
20:21 "Just one big hand is all we need" 💀
Another weird interaction is if you get a Moab Shove heli, it will continue to slow or stop moabs even tho its frozen
6:02 Me who saw the 39s on the trucks on Cargo as weird looking fetuses and never understood why da hecc ninja kiwi ever put them there.....
It's funny how everyone immediately after buying druid of the jungle move their cursor to change back to first.
I've actually set one of them to strong once, it was definitely a bit situational tho XD
I felt that that frozen monkey in bottom left corner marked 10 had a secret
Having 0 space, 0 range and a small path so bloons don't have to walk much till the exit seems not enough in NK's eyes... Also, putting Corvus in the start of the path saved most of your time since that lets him farm mana much faster
18:13 yeah, but legend of the night is WAY more expensive than corvus is
13:42
people saying then ew hero is bad
no, your just not using him properly
yes he's complicated but it trains our minds to use every single tool the hero offers to the best of their ability
I may be the worst player in the world at this game, but from me experience, if you are struggling with your best stuff getting frozen at the same time, just try to place new towers when most towers are not frozen, if you place stuff to help you already frozen towers, they will freeze at the same time and you will be kinda screwed
Definitely easier than a lot of the expert maps. In that I was actually able to beat it on hard without following someone's guide on the second try, though i had to escape out to main menu on numerous occasions.
Glad i got geraldo when i did, since he can be parked somewhere unimportant instead of one of the few precious good-placement spots and buff towers that aren't currently frozen so you aren't buying towers that'll be frozen at the same time as your currently frozen towers in 10 rounds.
When I played Glacial Trail the first time, I was surprised that fire towers don't freeze. Especially RoF, considering it has a flame on it.
I recently rediscovered your channel and having lots of fun watching, I vaguely remember you doing videos with a robot voiceover 😭
ISAB: "I think Corvus is really strong, people are saying he's a bad hero but i couldn't disagree... Any... Less..."
Man confused himself with the negatives there 😂
Edit: ik he addressed it in the top comment, just made me chuckle :)
What happens if you use fire based towers like ring of fire, will they freeze?
Yes
Well that doesn’t make sense
@@youraveragemonster not at all
it would be funny if Absolute Zero froze your towers.
I really don't like the frozen dart monkey with a 10 scratched on it bc it feels kinda creepy as if there were monkeys that were there before and died due to being frozen and scratched a 10 for future explorers
So unless you rely on ice monkeys, you have to actually think on deflation mode. Can't just dump everything all at once and hit start.
13:40 corvus can 2tc with a 0-0-0 dart btw
thankyou isab for showing us 2 hands makes corvus go hard [19:02]
Thank you Isab for beating off the bloons with the new hero
Corvus is insanely optimal, honestly had less effort in managing- gameplay wise- for a win. Just focus corvus and money becomes almost unreliable compared to his abilities.
If you put a wizards wall of fire on the frozen monkey it melts out and helps pop balloons
2:51 you could tank it with the 40 mana ability (yes it dose work in chimps)
so Corvus takes the bloons’ souls and PoD takes their bodies
making full use of the bloons
At first I couldn’t figure out the gimmick so the first thing I did was use a mortar on the frozen 10 monkey lol
I'm just sad that the wizard with fireball and the Ring of Fire for the tack shooter get frozen when one of them casts fire and the other is on fire
druid name: "make sure you"
spactory name: "use code ISAB"
If you look in the bottom left of the map there is an ice cube/berg that has a frozen dart monkey with the number 10 written on top
The second after I wrote this isab pointed it out lol
fun fact: nourishment actually gives you money instead of hero xp, so he is technically a farming stratagy
You forgot to mention that it's only at level 20
It also does nothing on chimps sadly.
Not sure how the freeze works, but it'd be fitting if the towers that are hot(phoenix, inferno, sun avatar, sauda) also inherited the freeze immunity ice monkey has
Sucks how the druid of the forest strat was patched
Now the balloons just float over the branches
i just realized that 2megapops is impossibol on this map
Corvus' life buffer works despite on chimps. Future reference for the r24 camo
round 51 is a rough round if you were relying on your hero... sorry i stopped around 7 minutes in i just wanted to get a general idea of the map ty for the post
Glad to know that corvus is good at beating off bloons. Thank you isab very cool!
So we can put a Pat on this map and get him frozen... does that make this the canon prequel map to Frozen Over?
When ISAB was talking about hotkeys, as a mobile player: You guys have hotkeys??
Honestly to me as a new player who has never used Corvus OR Geraldo, I think he's less complicated than Geraldo.
lol when I was playing this map, I was like “WAIT YOU CAN’T JUST FREEZE ALL MY TOWERS!!!”
I love these cool map designs Ninja kiwi is killing it rn
At first I thought “Damn this map doesn’t look like an expert map at all” and then the monkeys just froze
20:20 just one big hand to beat this off 😵💫
spirit walk = darkshift
spirit of forest = forest of the spirit
absolute zero = absolute ero
crazy to me thats the first thing i tried was if the ice monkey freeze. he doesnt. bottompath is pretty good on this map
Comanche commander and defense are pretty good, bcs the small helis are not frozen, so they can still push back moabs
9:16 "goes hard in the paint" crazy
Okay that was so easy, you need to do a Blackboarder run now.
Can you try a similar challenge where any monkey you place will only lasts for lets say 30 rounds and they would be sold for 0 dollars then. So you need good monkeys, but also need to think about future investments.
Btw im pretty sure plane just straight out ignores the frozen effect