MK party threatens not to attend first Parliament sitting - What now?

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  • Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
  • John Maytham interviews constitutional law academic, Pierre de Vos.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 146

  • @sallyramabu2503
    @sallyramabu2503 4 місяці тому +27

    Even if they boycott the National Assembly, they have only 58 seats.
    According to the law, only 133 MPs n the N/A, can elect a sitting president and other positions to govern. Let them boycott and go to courts for re-counting or re-election. We are very exhausted of treats and violence. Our country needs stability ,peace and governance. Our people have suffered enough to be where they are today. We need a smooth democratic transition to continue governing this beautiful country❤.

  • @annampuntsha8123
    @annampuntsha8123 4 місяці тому +34

    Zuma is not allowed to rhe doors of parliament legally

    • @GugulethuHlongwane
      @GugulethuHlongwane 4 місяці тому +3

      Not as president,u fool.ujahile too much.he can be something else

    • @pamelamonteiro9601
      @pamelamonteiro9601 4 місяці тому +3

      @@GugulethuHlongwane - we should all be pleasant, this is an informative debate & of people's own opinion. God bless all in SA.

    • @mtgigi
      @mtgigi 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@GugulethuHlongwanenot as anything. He is however allowed back in prison where he belongs. Isinyoga! Thief and liar that he is.

    • @Point-taken
      @Point-taken 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@GugulethuHlongwaneSuch a rush to call someone a fool only for you to say some stupid nonsense? 'A fool doth think he is wise '

  • @Ouma-p5w
    @Ouma-p5w 4 місяці тому +9

    No loss to the country

  • @JaDanBar97
    @JaDanBar97 4 місяці тому +7

    MK must piss off

  • @thusombambo9620
    @thusombambo9620 4 місяці тому +25

    Good for SA let them stay away hooray 👏👏👏👏🙌🙌🙌🙌

  • @coach4286
    @coach4286 4 місяці тому +21

    Parliament has 400 seats and MK has 57 seats, if the MK boycotts parliament sitting it will not matter because with 343 members attending parliament will form a quorum so their boycott is NEITHER HERE NOR THERE

    • @stefanmnguni5168
      @stefanmnguni5168 4 місяці тому

      Parliament needs a minimum of 350 members in order to operate

    • @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
      @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub 4 місяці тому +5

      @@stefanmnguni5168 You're confused.
      It only needs about a third of MP's to attend to make a quorum.

    • @christophermaitin1373
      @christophermaitin1373 4 місяці тому +3

      Wow! Already starting off on a bad footing showcasing their arrogance and expected stupidity

    • @coach4286
      @coach4286 4 місяці тому

      @@christophermaitin1373 Stupid and arrogant are those who think their view I'd the right one LIKE YOU

    • @christophermaitin1373
      @christophermaitin1373 4 місяці тому

      ​@@coach4286 Perhaps fix your damn grammar before you attempt attacking someone on social media. Idiot!

  • @martincronje5242
    @martincronje5242 4 місяці тому +4

    Lets face it, MK doesn't want to go to parliament because they don't have enough people in their structures to fill those seats.

  • @jantjiexaba7189
    @jantjiexaba7189 4 місяці тому +29

    MKP is under the Zuma spell. I wonder what will happen to the party if Zuma is removed as their president. Their plan is clear they are not planning to better the conditions of the people who voted for them but merely to score cheap political points.

    • @SbongokuhleNgobese
      @SbongokuhleNgobese 4 місяці тому +4

      Zuma won't be removed by Jabulani Khumalo his attempts are baseless and full of lies

    • @pamelamonteiro9601
      @pamelamonteiro9601 4 місяці тому +2

      You are totally spot on. Very sad & dangerous time for the people of South Africa.

    • @fanamlawuli6761
      @fanamlawuli6761 4 місяці тому +2

      Stop being a lazy thinker, how will he be removed? What do you black people want? Don't you want your forefathers lands? Don't you believe in your own kind? Wake and embrace this wonderful opportunity to reclaim the dignity of the black man

    • @GugulethuHlongwane
      @GugulethuHlongwane 4 місяці тому

      Lazy thinker

    • @LeoV63
      @LeoV63 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@fanamlawuli6761what forefathers land blacks took the land from the San and Khoi. If you want your forefathers land then go back north and go and claim it. Don't claim land that was not yours to begin with.

  • @bradleybrazington385
    @bradleybrazington385 4 місяці тому +6

    The MK will not attend because they cannot put candidates together

    • @jamludentertainment
      @jamludentertainment 4 місяці тому

      ill informed comment (to be polite), they said why twice, but you know better.

  • @abudlkader927
    @abudlkader927 4 місяці тому +6

    Salary? Zuma has got enough money to pay his nembers' salaries.😢😢😢

  • @thenyloncurtain
    @thenyloncurtain 4 місяці тому +6

    This is where DEMOCRACY fails.... ZUMA?????

  • @corinnevanjaarsveldt6087
    @corinnevanjaarsveldt6087 4 місяці тому +1

    I have often wondered why the govt does not give zululand independancy?

  • @maurchesnyman3955
    @maurchesnyman3955 4 місяці тому +10

    Who cares? Zuma is not allowed in any way.

  • @johnhudson1039
    @johnhudson1039 4 місяці тому +8

    Complete ignorance and defiance

  • @mercedeskadish1930
    @mercedeskadish1930 4 місяці тому +3

    MK is self serving and disruptive they want to demand and strong arm every thing in a disruptive direction seems like that's how they operate similar to eff - havoc - is their aim 🤔

  • @TommyGoodwin-q3m
    @TommyGoodwin-q3m 4 місяці тому +13

    The future looks very bleak for. S. A people with a. Zuma led. M k he nearly drove. S. A in to the ground now he will finish what he started we all hope for a better future without the. Anc but it's not to be

    • @pamelamonteiro9601
      @pamelamonteiro9601 4 місяці тому +1

      So friggen true. Bugger the South African people. They don't know what's coming. Already the critics overseas, are also worried, economical about this happening.

    • @dumololwazimbobondiweni-mm8tn
      @dumololwazimbobondiweni-mm8tn 4 місяці тому

      you are lazy to think ...or you are just drunk by hatred for Zuma or you are just brainwashed slave

    • @Ritesh-yy1zr
      @Ritesh-yy1zr 4 місяці тому +1

      Either way, whoever the government is, if the last 30 years was anything to go by, the next 30 looks worse

  • @khanyimbhele4661
    @khanyimbhele4661 4 місяці тому +1

    We need to be independent

    • @davidopsina3871
      @davidopsina3871 4 місяці тому

      The MK Bantus need to be brought in line. They are SOOO STUPID.

  • @JosiahManganyi-xs8bi
    @JosiahManganyi-xs8bi 4 місяці тому +4

    It's possible because they want Zuma in parliament!

  • @Antoinette-iv6ev
    @Antoinette-iv6ev 4 місяці тому +9

    They will lose out,voting will continue

  • @sandrahutchinson1242
    @sandrahutchinson1242 4 місяці тому

    What has happened to all the international votes. Why have they not been included?

  • @red_headed_goddess
    @red_headed_goddess 4 місяці тому +5

    this is why some say that many EFF members silently voted for MK and stand with MK on policy matters, because the childish behaviour of boycotting the assembly is so reminiscent of past EFF antics in parliament. Hopefully this election has matured the EFF leadership.

  • @denniskeagile2535
    @denniskeagile2535 4 місяці тому

    For the issue is simple. MK does not want to be seen to be voting either for Ramaphosa or anyone from the DA or any other party, so it is trying to safe face-nothing more, nothing less because it's absence won't stop the business of parliament or election of the president. From there it will say I never voted for so and so.

  • @rachaelpetersen5727
    @rachaelpetersen5727 4 місяці тому +1

    and we pray

  • @siasmoise661
    @siasmoise661 4 місяці тому +6

    This constitutional expert can define the imperialist monopoly capital constitution eloquently. Wow!

    • @kamps492
      @kamps492 4 місяці тому +2

      In the context of the South African Parliament, if a party or group of members totalling 58 decides to boycott the election of the Speaker of Parliament, it would not invalidate the proceedings according to the Constitution of South Africa. The Constitution allows for the election of important positions such as the President and the Speaker to proceed as long as a quorum is present. Specifically, only a third of the members need to be present for the vote to be valid.
      If the boycotting members are not sworn in, the National Assembly has the authority to strip them of their membership, and they could potentially be replaced by other members from their party. This means that the Speaker's election and other parliamentary proceedings can continue without the presence of those 58 members, provided that the quorum is met. The Constitution ensures that the functioning of the Parliament is not hindered by the absence or boycott of a minority group of members. we are going to have problems here with MK

    • @antonvrb1510
      @antonvrb1510 4 місяці тому

      You are offering what exactly instead?

    • @desstanbridge8283
      @desstanbridge8283 4 місяці тому +1

      Regardless if MK is there or not the business of Parliament will continue...

  • @AbZak_1
    @AbZak_1 4 місяці тому +7

    You really think Zuma doesn’t know this.

  • @happytape307
    @happytape307 4 місяці тому

    That's dumb, there will still be a quorum without MK.

  • @thequarter2
    @thequarter2 4 місяці тому +1

    DA-ANC-ActionSA Coalition

  • @FredPrinsloo-l3p
    @FredPrinsloo-l3p 4 місяці тому +10

    Do we need them in parliament

  • @farouk69jacobs
    @farouk69jacobs 4 місяці тому +10

    Good day CapeTalk Fam,
    Simple question to all South African citizens....
    Who pays MP salaries?
    So who's time and money are these disruptive entities wasting with these type of antics?
    #TheUnassumingBillionaire

    • @ThokozaniM
      @ThokozaniM 4 місяці тому

      I pay what your problem

    • @farouk69jacobs
      @farouk69jacobs 4 місяці тому

      @@ThokozaniM what do us taxpayers pay them to?

    • @Ritesh-yy1zr
      @Ritesh-yy1zr 4 місяці тому

      @@ThokozaniM wow you rich Wena

  • @cmovum9637
    @cmovum9637 4 місяці тому +1

    This Analyst is purely suffering from a product of certain circumstances

  • @antoniocollins1154
    @antoniocollins1154 4 місяці тому

    ANC AND DA DONT NEED EFF MK PA.THEY VERY STRONG ON THERE OWN

  • @ThokozaniM
    @ThokozaniM 4 місяці тому +8

    Very nice to be European in this country.

    • @johngrebnebeil4311
      @johngrebnebeil4311 4 місяці тому +8

      ?

    • @ronelpeens7366
      @ronelpeens7366 4 місяці тому +4

      i am a white normal South African..its KAK!

    • @Dubandlela1
      @Dubandlela1 4 місяці тому +2

      Say that again but nothing lasts forever.

    • @dragonslayer125
      @dragonslayer125 4 місяці тому +2

      Please inform us citizens of the country why ???

    • @velimasuku8808
      @velimasuku8808 4 місяці тому +8

      Race cards pulled out the deck 😂😂😂

  • @lukassteenkamp6593
    @lukassteenkamp6593 4 місяці тому

    Ban them

  • @muzimindMaps8703
    @muzimindMaps8703 4 місяці тому +1

    Zuma the last man standing..

  • @sindimasango2735
    @sindimasango2735 4 місяці тому

    😂😂😂😂😂

  • @nicholasmthethwa1845
    @nicholasmthethwa1845 4 місяці тому

    Why they continie

  • @rohanasmith106
    @rohanasmith106 4 місяці тому +2

    Does this guy know that the camera is on him? Behaves very strangely.

  • @ThembaTsela
    @ThembaTsela 4 місяці тому +3

    The MK will occupy their seats. They have been elected.

  • @mystynice56
    @mystynice56 4 місяці тому +1

    He is lying to you 😂😂

  • @juniormolefe3046
    @juniormolefe3046 4 місяці тому +1

    De vos contradicts himself 😂

  • @archibaldwittes2855
    @archibaldwittes2855 4 місяці тому

    The media campaign already underway against Zuma.

  • @qalas7327
    @qalas7327 4 місяці тому +3

    Is this a real professor 😂 Pierre deVos never gives factual analysis. Let him go read S46 that says there must be no less than 350 MPs which means without MK there will be 342 MPs. He is not sure what counts as a seating 😂

  • @alfredondwalane
    @alfredondwalane 4 місяці тому +2

    ANC-DA coalition will sink the ANC down to 6% starting in 2026, ANC went down by 17% now, that would multiply leaving the movement with nothing but 6%

    • @samanthaholm9634
      @samanthaholm9634 4 місяці тому

      You talk nonsense 🙄

    • @shelby6
      @shelby6 4 місяці тому

      What?

    • @kayisebangani3950
      @kayisebangani3950 4 місяці тому +2

      We need coalition that will take the county forward irrespective of which party

    • @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub
      @ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub 4 місяці тому +6

      That's great.
      Once people see how the DA govern without corruption they'll get over 50% and the country can grow economically , lifting millions out of poverty.

    • @sbongazulu8025
      @sbongazulu8025 4 місяці тому

      ​​@@ProcaviaCapensis-ts8ub Talking lies, in WC you still have lot of communities living under poverty and DA is governing there what gonna be the difference when they running the whole country?

  • @BornwellMoyo-v8s
    @BornwellMoyo-v8s 4 місяці тому +2

    Your guy is not telling the truth

    • @CharlesModise-tl7vz
      @CharlesModise-tl7vz 4 місяці тому

      Wrong analysis. The constitution of parliament requires no less than 350 me bers and no more than 400 members before any work of parliament could be done.

  • @mosadiolefile3085
    @mosadiolefile3085 4 місяці тому +2

    We love Zuma like it or not

  • @sharonjames2041
    @sharonjames2041 4 місяці тому +1

    😢EFF /MK/ANC AN ALL PAN-AFRICANIST PARTIES UNITE ✊🏿❤

  • @stolenlegacy2617
    @stolenlegacy2617 4 місяці тому +1

    This expert is talking nonsense

    • @ThokozaniM
      @ThokozaniM 4 місяці тому

      We're not playing

    • @kamps492
      @kamps492 4 місяці тому

      do you even understand?????

  • @Oushimoto
    @Oushimoto 4 місяці тому

    I'm so extremely sorry that I didn't mean to be so extremely rude in the most extreme rude way but I can't help myself because I'm such a total fanatic so it can't be me it must someone else who is really very EVIL. Honestly I'm telling you the truth a promise you that a Jew made me do it.

    • @cloudstrife8791
      @cloudstrife8791 4 місяці тому +4

      HUH?

    • @cathypotgieter6345
      @cathypotgieter6345 4 місяці тому

      What kind of comment is this???😢😢

    • @Oushimoto
      @Oushimoto 4 місяці тому

      Blame all the Jews for everything it's the latest trend in the world today coming around again since the Nazis made it a thing.