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  • @TheCrewExpendable
    @TheCrewExpendable 6 років тому +299

    5 TVs, 5 Gamecubes, 4 GameCube GBA players, 4 GameCube GBA link cables, 4 GameCube controllers, 1 copy of 4 swords or Crystal chronicles, 0 actual GBAs.

    • @zolikat4458
      @zolikat4458 5 років тому +9

      Why do you need 5 gamecubes, but only 4 gameboy players

    • @Takr13
      @Takr13 5 років тому +48

      @@zolikat4458 Id imagine 4 gamecubes are acting as a GBA and one gamecube is well, a game cube

    • @TheLeggedOne
      @TheLeggedOne 5 років тому +39

      Now your playing with power

    • @trueskatemafucker4251
      @trueskatemafucker4251 5 років тому +2

      awesome dome

    • @nysato
      @nysato 5 років тому +15

      Me and my friend kinda did this, he had a GBA and I had the Gameboy Player so we had 2 TVs, 2 Gamecubes, 1 GBA, a copy of Final Fantasy CC and a power strip to run it all. it wasn't bad but I can see it getting confusing with Zelda Four Swords as you are moving from TV to TV

  • @andressacapuntas9523
    @andressacapuntas9523 6 років тому +141

    The Tingle Tuner was so good. It basically turned Wind Waker into a bizarre co-op game where the GBA player could bomb enemies or just bomb Link and it was really good.

    • @AdamTheGameBoy
      @AdamTheGameBoy 6 років тому +17

      Yeah, it was a blast. It's one of the reasons I'm not sure if the HD remake is actually an improvement.

    • @SakuraAvalon
      @SakuraAvalon 6 років тому +8

      HD is an improvement. One minigame a good chunk of people never played excluded.
      I mean, if you like WindWaker the game itself that is.

    • @Shadowwand
      @Shadowwand 6 років тому +20

      @@SakuraAvalon still seems silly, that with a built in second screen console not to put that functionality in.

    • @Lakersdude7
      @Lakersdude7 2 роки тому +1

      @@Shadowwand I know I was shocked they removed that feature

  • @SeshohoCian
    @SeshohoCian 6 років тому +361

    On the front of the Game Boy Player is a link cable slot, intended for multiplayer stuff like pokemon. But, with two Gamecubes, (or a gamecube and a wii,) you could hook up the Gamecube-GBA Link Cable to the Game Boy Player, and have a Gamecube + TV act as a giant GBA in any of these games! Playing four player Four Swords Adventures with one Wii, four gamecubes and five tvs? Now THAT's ambitious and unnecessary.
    Oh also, Pac-Man Vs. has been included in the Nintendo Switch Namco Classics collection, although it requires two separate Switches to be played.

    • @S0larisPrime
      @S0larisPrime 6 років тому +20

      That has actually been done! Check out the Let's Play Archive for Pokecapn and Friends' LP of FSA!

    • @unnameablename
      @unnameablename 6 років тому +9

      SeshohoCian this was done in the RunawayGuys Lets play of four swords adventure

    • @Ds_is_i
      @Ds_is_i 6 років тому +4

      Well finally I can play pac man vs except it’s not my gamecube copy

    • @CassietheReal
      @CassietheReal 6 років тому +3

      Pac-Man Vs. was also in the DS Namco Collection

    • @scamila17
      @scamila17 6 років тому +5

      The link cable i have to trade Pokemon between 2 GBA is not like the one shown in the video. Why is that?. oes it mean that there is a different Link Cable that works with The Gamecube?

  • @AdvancePlays
    @AdvancePlays 6 років тому +163

    GBA's Four Swords and GCN's Four Swords Adventure aren't different versions; they're different games.

    • @screamingfalcon71
      @screamingfalcon71 6 років тому +27

      Exactly what I was thinking when he said that. The ACTUAL Four Swords game was rereleased on the DS to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Zelda with the ability to finally play it alone.

    • @Gameboy_9917
      @Gameboy_9917 5 років тому +8

      @@screamingfalcon71 Clarification: it was re released on the Dsi, not the ds/dslite.

    • @jamcdonald120
      @jamcdonald120 5 років тому +8

      And GBA 4 Swords came out 2 YEARS before 4 Swords Adventure (p.s. just try to find a 4 swords playthrough that isnt 4 swords adventure)

    • @gregorymirabella1423
      @gregorymirabella1423 4 роки тому +1

      @@jamcdonald120 it sure as hell ain't easy.

    • @allenserna1290
      @allenserna1290 4 роки тому

      Is it possible to just play 4 sword with 4 gamecube controllers no link cable

  • @Leon14344_
    @Leon14344_ 6 років тому +68

    So, the actual intended way to play Crystal Chronicles is to run a whole campaign with the same four people, usually with at least one person who has done it before. You tend to decide on party composition at the beginning, and the bucket is often left to the "white mage" player, who more than likely doesn't need to heal at the start of encounters anyway.
    Think of it like a D&D campaign; you get three other players to sit and play it for a multi-hour session. It is NOT a party game. It's an absolutely fantastic time; I run at least one campaign a year with my friends, cycling out people from year to year sometimes in order to keep the run fresh. As i'm the most experienced, I play the white mage, and tend to the chalice, acting as a pseudo Dungeon Master.
    I highly recommend it to everyone. I went out of my way to get 4 GBA SPs just for these sessions.

    • @xpl0d1n
      @xpl0d1n 6 років тому +3

      Ive started a few campaigns with some buddys but havent yet been able to have everyone organized enough to come back and beat the whole game. I love the game to death though and am really exited for the day i can say i finally finished it with a whole group!

    • @animuswiese5533
      @animuswiese5533 5 років тому +5

      Thats a badass way of thinking of it. I used to have 3 friends that we just go in building different stories all the time. I played more of the red mage side and tended the bucket.. Boss fights were funner that way. Good times.

    • @kryzethx
      @kryzethx 3 роки тому +3

      Same, basically, except me and the friends I was playing with all graduated before we could beat the game. Sad to leave it unfinished; it was an amazing time together

    • @Ffancrzy
      @Ffancrzy 2 роки тому +2

      CC is a great game that I'm super nostalgic for. My friends and I played it during some of our hurricane days and it was a super innovative game, really took advantage of the fact that each players controller also had a screen on it. I was often the heal bitch which I didnt mind so much.

    • @TheLazySamurai
      @TheLazySamurai 2 роки тому +1

      Including the 3 of the GBA to GC cables I've seen in youtube videos, I've only seen 5 in total. They were too rare to get so that I could play FF:CC with friends, and thats all I wanted to do :(
      Glad to hear others are able to enjoy, that game was well made

  • @EposVox
    @EposVox 6 років тому +26

    I loved my link cable for Pokemon, had didn't realize at the time that it did all of this too!

  • @GameTacoFTW
    @GameTacoFTW 6 років тому +217

    I remember back in elementary school, I'd connect my gba to animal crossing so I could design flags and shirts.

    • @rwiseart2269
      @rwiseart2269 6 років тому +10

      Game Taco That’s the best reason to have the link cable, except for playing NES games on the GBA

    • @mandymom2800
      @mandymom2800 6 років тому +13

      Don’t forget the tiny chao garden :)

    • @joe_schmoe_420
      @joe_schmoe_420 3 роки тому +1

      You could go to the island if you connect the link cable
      Its the only way to get coconut palm trees

  • @kaimcdragonfist4803
    @kaimcdragonfist4803 6 років тому +62

    Pac-Man VS is such a good time. A friend of mine got a copy of Pac-Man World 2 for his birthday that had Pac-Man VS in it, and honestly, we had no idea how amazing a pack-in (or Pac-in) it would be.
    Also, Pac-Man VS was actually designed by Shigeru Miyamoto, which is probably why they thought having Mario as an announcer would be a good idea.

    • @gameguy73
      @gameguy73 6 років тому +3

      Pac-Man VS. was ported to the switch recently in Namco Museum.

    • @GatorRay
      @GatorRay 6 років тому +1

      +JimF It also got ported to Namco Museum on the Nintendo DS.

    • @Ariesguy41499
      @Ariesguy41499 6 років тому +2

      Kai McDragonfist I've got Pac-Man Vs. for the GameCube along with Pac-Man World 2(which I think is an amazing platformer btw) but I've never played it. I dont have a gba but would like to get a gba sp someday so I could play it.

    • @PhirePhlame
      @PhirePhlame 6 років тому +1

      There's also a standalone Switch version of Pac-Man VS for free.

  • @SoberDwarf
    @SoberDwarf 6 років тому +154

    Man, whoever did the editing for this video is amazing! Probably good looking too!

    • @StopSkeletonsFromFighting
      @StopSkeletonsFromFighting  6 років тому +14

      SoberDwarf No kidding! Check him out fam! ua-cam.com/video/iVuqN0RBFcY/v-deo.html

    • @TimewornUncle
      @TimewornUncle 6 років тому

      I followed the link and found a hideous sasquatch. Enter at your own risk. But if a sasquatch can compile something that sophisticated, they will soon be off the monster myth list.

    • @MixAndMash
      @MixAndMash 6 років тому

      Best joke 2018.

    • @annmosely8863
      @annmosely8863 6 років тому +2

      Good looking, talented, brave and probably one of the nicest people on youtube. Your stuff is some of the best I've seen! Anyone who tells you otherwise are just trolls who are too busy spending time spewing vitriol in the comments section to do anything worthwhile in their lives!

    • @SoberDwarf
      @SoberDwarf 6 років тому

      Thank you! I really appreciate hearing that! It's always nice seeing you comment on my stuff, even when it's not on my channel!
      To be honest, those comments don't bother me, they have their right to their opinion as much as anybody. Besides, two comments out of 59 thumbs up and being the top rated comment? I'll take that any day of the week!

  • @minimalchill
    @minimalchill 6 років тому +40

    Honestly, Id love a part 2 and 3 of this exact topic...just exploring more games. Appreciate the quality entertainment guys. Spectacular as always. :)

  • @Igorcastrochucre
    @Igorcastrochucre 6 років тому +16

    Honestly Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles is at its best with four people, the experience is akin to a couch MMORPG. But the sheer thought of gathering four people, four GBAs and four adapters is probably why many skipped this game.

  • @Valtharr
    @Valtharr 6 років тому +5

    Pac-Man Vs is actually on the Switch, as part of the Namco Museum (which also includes Splatterhouse!)

  • @lolidayo
    @lolidayo 6 років тому +38

    Please do an episode on Mario no photopy on the N64. It's a Japanese exclusive.
    Very weird and unnecessary game / peripheral.

    • @ajthem554
      @ajthem554 6 років тому +1

      It's not it's fixed the bugs with Japanese version and made it better

    • @BigOlSmellyFlashlight
      @BigOlSmellyFlashlight 6 років тому +1

      lolidayo I once tried to translate it but couldn't reinsert the graphics

  • @RealityXP_
    @RealityXP_ 6 років тому +45

    The reason why I subbed to this channel

  • @chfgn
    @chfgn 6 років тому +29

    Pac Man Vs is second only to Mario Chase for the title of Best Party Game Ever. Animal Crossing had a bunch of good uses for the GBA link, and Rayman 3 had a minigame where the person on the Game Boy played Tetris to create a racetrack for the person on the TV who was playing some kind of racing game.
    If you want a good idea for something weird, ambitious, or unnecessary to take a look at, check out Quest for the Rings on the Magnavox Odyssey 2. It's half board game and half video game, and if you're willing to use your imagination it's a whole lot of fun.

    • @mspeter97
      @mspeter97 6 років тому +1

      each time I have friends around we end up playing Pac-Man Vs for quite a long time. This game is so great (if you can forget Mario's voice)

  • @eandjproductions2
    @eandjproductions2 6 років тому +29

    Surprised he didn't mention the e-Reader at all. Love to see an episode on that also.

  • @AllUsernamesTaken
    @AllUsernamesTaken 6 років тому +5

    Pac Man VS. is actually available on the DS too, as a part of Namco Museum.

  • @totallymady42069
    @totallymady42069 5 років тому +15

    I remember when I was a kid I borrowed pokemon channel from a friend but didn't have the gba cable, upon unlocking Jirachi I immediately ran to my friends house ( who lived about 15 minutes away) to borrow his cable, unfortunately he wasn't in so I had to sit around for a while until he arrived home. Upon recieving the cable my eyes lit up and I ran all the way home again.
    It was at this moment I completed my 100% pokedex in Sapphire. Ooooh good times.
    A friend of mine later erased my save.

  • @GreatScooty
    @GreatScooty 6 років тому

    The Tingle Tuner is preeeetty cool. It lets a friend play Wind Waker with you as basically an "assistant". They can set bombs, reveal things, find extra power ups, give you buffs (I think? It's been awhile), and each dungeon has a specific Tingle trophy you can only get with the Tingle Tuner. There's even bits and pieces of story in it for Tingle character development.
    Definitely fiddle with it, more to it than it initially lets on.

  • @otakuribo
    @otakuribo 6 років тому

    _Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles_ is literally my favorite game of all time. I could go on forever about how perfectly designed it's game mechanics storytelling, art and music direction were; but much more importantly, this game, along with Gamecube couch multiplayer games like _Phantasy Star Online_ and _Four Swords_ forged deep spiritual bonds between me and my siblings, and we are each other's best friends to this day.

  • @GameplayandTalk
    @GameplayandTalk 6 років тому +121

    Ouch. Requiring the link cable for Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles was a major oversight. The Gamecube was the party system of choice for many back then and so I bet the game would have been much more popular with Cube owners had the cable not been required.

    • @BologneyT
      @BologneyT 6 років тому +11

      I guess they thought that was gonna sell that cable. They bet wrong and should maybe have bundled it.
      I own Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles (got it back in the day) and it was pretty cool, and I actually owned one of the cables, too! MY unfortunate problem was I had no friends to play it with. :( So I had to test it by myself to see how it worked... and it actually works alright as a two player game played alone, because one player has to be on bucket duty anyway... so it... ALMOST works. If you play 2 player alone, you get to swap characters, at least.

    • @tomstorm255
      @tomstorm255 6 років тому +15

      Gameplay and Talk I think it would have been way too annoying to play without the cable unfortunately. Having the GBA screen meant everyone could easily use menus and setup skills and such without having to pause the game for the other players. While they could've made it work otherwise, it would have felt much slower and more clunky with 4 players I think (ie: Diablo 3's menus on 4p coop on consoles)
      That said, they definitely should have bundled a cable or two with the game

    • @KevinTwiner
      @KevinTwiner 6 років тому +1

      I agree ☝️

    • @KuraIthys
      @KuraIthys 6 років тому +2

      Yeah, I love the thought of these games...
      But getting that setup together is nuts.
      Plus, I literally had no friends at the time so... There is that.
      I have the link cable. Possibly even two of them.
      And a gba.
      And... Well, technically a Wii (but that still works)
      I even remember playing that game with 3 people once...
      But... to do it justice, you need a gamecube, 4 people, 4 cables, and 4 gba systems!?
      Yeah, good luck with that. XD

    • @noahmccann4438
      @noahmccann4438 6 років тому +2

      I found the game’s magic system to be very ingenious for a multiplayer RPG - it was very rewarding to perfectly time a spell with your friend to get a more powerful spell, and even cooler the first few times you unintentionally overlapped unrelated spells and in so doing cast a new spell (ex. Fire + blizzard + thunder to cast graviga). The hardware requirements were a huge hurdle though, and getting enough interested people together to play it didn’t help. I can’t help but think that (with many tweaks) it could work well as a modern day online multiplayer game. Or possibly with an accompanying phone app (although those never really work well). The most important change would be ditching the bucket. Or at least converting it from a requirement to a nice-to-have (like an AoE buff).

  • @Knuxfan24
    @Knuxfan24 6 років тому +3

    Pac-Man VS was remade(?) as part of Namco Museum DS. & it was a bloody BLAST to play.

  • @shamwowser6449
    @shamwowser6449 6 років тому +12

    Not sure why this is still a big misconception, but Four Swords is a different game entirely than Four Swords Adventures. It is not just another version or a port. They have different stories, levels, items, bosses, music, graphics, and modes. Even Hyrule Historia, the official Nintendo book that lists the Zelda timeline, lists the 2 games as separate events. They aren't even close to each other in the timeline branch either. Not mad, but a little research goes a long way. :) otherwise great video!

    • @KrunkCobain
      @KrunkCobain 4 роки тому

      You sound fucking mad bro

    • @shamwowser6449
      @shamwowser6449 4 роки тому +1

      Nope! Just wanted to clear it up. It's a fun Zelda game just wanted to make sure people didn't write it off as the same thing. :)

  • @aguchamp7766
    @aguchamp7766 6 років тому +18

    I love using this in Pokemon Colosseum. A huge upgrade from what the N64 did.

  • @ShadyHitchhiker
    @ShadyHitchhiker 6 років тому

    Man Derrick,
    I played SOOOO much four swords adventure and FF:CC. I feel like a very niche expert.
    Between me and all my friends and nephews we had 4 GCN/GBA link cables, as well as 2 GBA SPs, and 2 GBAs modded with the afterburner backlight (remember that?).
    For simplicity and because I often hosted the gaming sessions, everybody left all the kit with me, so we regularly played these games at my house.
    Both Four Swords and FF:CC are differently amazing games.
    FF:CC had full "trust fall" co-op which initially appeared to be cut-throat co-op, since everybody had their own personal secret missions that dictated their play style (Kill monsters with spells, Collect Gil, Pick up items), and the person who did the best on their mission got to pick their stat boosts FIRST from the pool of reward items. But then when you read into the systems you realise that if EVERYBODY scores very highly on their personal secret missions that the pool of reward items gets better, so it's better to help everyone out in their secret mission because it's better for you to pick last on the tier 1 of amazing items, rather than pick first on the tier 6 of crappy items.
    Also, contrary to what your video says, you SHOULDN'T import characters from someone else's memory card, unless you're farming end game stat boosts with mostly maxed characters. The reason for this is that NOTHING carries back to the original memory card except the stat boost relics (of which you only get 1 per stage). No items and no equipment; which makes up the bulk of what you actually gather as you play. When I found out that nothing carries back originally, I can remember thinking it was a bug and e-mailing Penny Arcade to ask them if they knew how to fix it (because they had comics talking about playing the imported Japanese version). They obviously never replied lol.
    Best way to play through FF:CC is to make a village on one memory card with friends, paper/rock/scissors for the best parents (Blacksmith, Alchemist, Merchant, Tailor) and then have gentleman's agreement to never play the file unless all people are present. You can have one village per memory card, so you can do a couple of different ones with different friend groups if you have the cards.
    Main reason to agree never to play without each other is that the stages level up when beaten, and get (as we found out) way way too difficult for newly made or absent characters to compete in.
    I don't have as much to say about Four Swords (it was good too, you just didn't really progress your characters to the same extent you did in FF:CC), but it did create what we dubbed "Four Swords co-op" where you are willing to, and will slit your friends throats at the earliest available opportunity so you can nab that fun temp equipment or get a heart container.
    My biggest complaint about Four Swords, as compared to FF:CC is that if ANY GBA CABLE BECOMES EVEN SLIGHTLY LOOSE, THE GAME WILL RETURN YOU TO THE TITLE SCREEN AND ERASE ALL STAGE PROGRESS. EVEN ON THE FINAL STAGE, WHICH IS A GOOD 2 HOURS LONG. This also happened if one of the GBAs lost power...
    Trying to beat it with a group of 4 cables, two of which were a little dodgy was so incredibly frustrating that we, as a group, ragequit Four Swords forever.
    This is in stark contrast to FF:CC, where if one player loses power/connection, their character will auto-follow the bucket until the connection is reestablished.
    Hope you had fun playing these games, they were very important to me at that point in my life!

  • @TheShangryLlamas
    @TheShangryLlamas 6 років тому +5

    Quick correction for ya. Four Swords on the GBA is not the same as Four Swords Adventures on the Gamecube. They take place in completely different points of the timeline, with Four Swords happening after Minish Cap and Four Swords Adventures happening after Twilight Princess.

  • @marcovoltage
    @marcovoltage 6 років тому

    I love Crystal Chronicles. It has one of the best gaming soundtracks in existence. I still listen to it regularly.

  • @0rderSol
    @0rderSol 5 років тому +2

    Year 2019; Still hasn't been a single GBA emulator than connects to Dolphin with mass ports.
    Iphone, android, PSP, Vita, GPD, imagine going to a friend's house and having a good time with Crystal Chronicles or 4-Swords via WLAN.

  • @Pilpup
    @Pilpup 6 років тому

    Crystal Chronicles. Action Replay, removed the need for a light bucket. An amazing device used not to cheat but to (In my opinion) fix the game. Makes it incredibly fun and me and my old roommate dumped tens of hours playing this game because it was so much more playable.
    Man I love this channel so much! It hits all my favourite niches. D, you are into the same nerdy old outdated technology as I am. And I love you for it!

  • @Dongled
    @Dongled 6 років тому

    Great episode. The link cable was widely underappreciated but Pac-Man VS was by far the BEST use of it. I still play it with friends to this day!

  • @NeoBlueCD
    @NeoBlueCD 6 років тому

    I can't believe I haven't heard of this before yet. These Punching Weight episodes always make me feel like I know less about games than I thought I did!

  • @KevinTwiner
    @KevinTwiner 6 років тому

    Love the link cable! Can’t wait to use it for all the games that were supported. Enjoyed your time and effort.

  • @GermanGarageGames
    @GermanGarageGames 6 років тому +12

    The Animal Crossing GBA link content Needed to be in this video !!! For The rest .. great video as always ;-)

  • @TheLazySamurai
    @TheLazySamurai 2 роки тому +1

    With your 2 official cables, I have seen a total of 5 of these cables in my life; too rare they were, making using them with friends almost impossible.
    All I wanted was to play Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles with friends :(

  • @danielburleson563
    @danielburleson563 2 роки тому

    The tingle tuner just allows you to have a second player move a cursor around and help link out a little bit, by placing bombs, or healing him. The tingle Turner is also capable of finding secret spots, only findable using the device. That's about it

  • @jpsplat
    @jpsplat 6 років тому

    We had 4 cables and 4 gameboys back in the GC days... I got to play a lot of 4 swords and Crystal Chronicles with 4 players as well as raising chaos on Sonic adventure 2. 4 swords adventure was an absolute blast and I am just boggled as to why nothing like it has come out since. We also did the tingle tracker a few times but it didn't really help out much. Years later I tell people about these games and they say you actually got to play them with 4 people?? Probably my most exclusive gaming moments lol. In retrospect Crystal Chronicles really didn't need the gba and I remember thinking that when it was new. They really shot themselves in the foot with that move. Also you could use action replay to unlock the fusion suit and play og Metroid in Prime... Wow this video brings a lot of memories back

  • @MortMort
    @MortMort 6 років тому

    the Tails Chao in PSO was the only reason I got PSO back then, but I felt in love with the game tho :D

  • @soltreeii
    @soltreeii 6 років тому +3

    I still have my GBA cord and a bunch of games that are compatible. You're not missing much with the Sonic games it just transfers chao between Advance/Pinball Party to Adventure gardens. Billy Hatcher has cool temp GBA download games like a mini version NiGHTS. (Super fun) Phantasy Star did much of the same. Nintendo Puzzle Collection gave you downloadable barebones versions of GBA ports of the Dr. Mario and Panel de Pon plus a Yoshi Cookie thing. There's a bunch more i still have but cant remember but I'd be happy to support

    • @Kara_Kay_Eschel
      @Kara_Kay_Eschel 6 років тому

      PSO had NiGHTS, Chao, and a Puyo game. Two of those was from online quest (unless you had PS plus, which you can get them offline)

  • @Diyomaro
    @Diyomaro 6 років тому

    I was lucky enough to get this going as a kid. Rounding up all the link cables was tough, but what helped was buying one I got for Sonic Adventure 2 Battle, and having a 3rd party link cable that also had the GBA port on one end. My friend had the one that came with Four Swords, and he went and got the same 3rd party link cable I bought. Most of my friends had their own GBA, so that was not an issue really.
    This is one of my favorite game experiences, and it's a shame that it was never revived on wii/wii u via DS systems. I know you can pair DS systems wirelessly.

  • @GomerJ
    @GomerJ 6 років тому

    Ohh man Pac Man VS was one of the best party games I miss that thing. Never worked quite as well as it did with the link cable. Too much fun.

  • @jeremyandrews3292
    @jeremyandrews3292 6 років тому

    This feels like a better version of the idea behind the Wii U. Imagine if Nintendo had simply called the Wii U the Wii 2, bundled Wii Motion Plus controllers with it, but also provided a way to use the 3DS as a second screen wirelessly or something for certain games. Instead of having a whole separate gamepad, just let people use the handheld systems they already have as a controller. Brilliant idea, it was ahead of its time.

  • @phil_matic
    @phil_matic 6 років тому

    When I was a kid, I wanted the GBA cable so badly for windwaker. My parents ended up getting me a cheap intec GBA set which was a case for games, the GBA SP, and some other crap, and surprisingly it had an intec branded GBA cable. It was a dream come true to find that in there.
    One thing to note is that while the 1st party GBA cable is the best quality, it still sucks. It blocks out the charging port. You can't charge and play with that at the same time unfortunately. I am planning on having a 4 swords party with my friends soon, and hopefully our SPs last long enough.

  • @arekhautaluoma4276
    @arekhautaluoma4276 6 років тому

    I personally used the Gamecube GBA link cable with Animal Crossing (going to the island), Four Swords (actually played with 4 friends, stayed up all night...we might've played it twice even), Crystal Chronicles (my friends liked it a lot more than me, but I do love the art style) and I might've used my friends Pokemon Bank a little bit? It was awesome. Wish there had been more interconnectivity in later generations of consoles/portables! DS and Wii could've done a lot more together besides demo downloads.

  • @RoddyDev
    @RoddyDev 6 років тому

    I didn't knew about this Link Cable, it's really an original concept and pretty awesome for multiplayer features. I'm really surprised.

  • @Mystemo
    @Mystemo 6 років тому +1

    Awesome, I've missed Punching Weight. I'd love another episode on this subject since there are so many other games that used the Link Cable in cool ways. My favorite was the Sega minigames you could unlock in Billy Hatcher and the Gigant Egg.

  • @drew8235
    @drew8235 6 років тому

    I wished I could've had the right setup to play FF Crystal Chronicles years ago, but thankfully it's coming out on Switch soon.
    When I was a kid I definitely bought this peripheral just to connect between Sonic Adventure 2 and Sonic Advance. I was so hooked on raising Chao, gave that game such longevity. =)

  • @_J2C
    @_J2C 6 років тому

    With this cable I got to use the tingle tuner to play Wind Waker co-operatively with my brothers and friends. Definitely enhanced the overall experience and made Wind Waker a much more memorable Zelda game to me.
    It still boggles my mind that Nintendo omitted this fantastic feature from the HD version of Wind Waker when the Wii U gamepad with a screen would’ve been the perfect opportunity to improve the Tingle Tuner experience in HD. Definitely a big missed opportunity there.

  • @jesusvela5174
    @jesusvela5174 6 років тому

    I never had a game boy so this is a surprise… hidden content on some console games?! I kinda love it and hate that I missed it

  • @7elevenhomelessman310
    @7elevenhomelessman310 6 років тому

    4 swords adventure with 4 players is so hectic but amaZing

  • @sarahskileth6925
    @sarahskileth6925 5 років тому +1

    You can use that with your GBA and the GameBoy Player add on to control your GBA/GBC/GB games.

  • @theycallmejojo6090
    @theycallmejojo6090 6 років тому

    That thing was awesome, I never had a link cable and a second gba so I had to use the GC/GBA cable to transfer my Pokémon with coliseum being the bridge.

  • @NightRanma
    @NightRanma 6 років тому

    I loved having that cable, but it was a pain in the butt in some aspects. You couldn't charge your gba sp while playing so you damn well better have a full battery going into a gaming session!

  • @Xizax41325
    @Xizax41325 6 років тому

    As a dude who had 4 friends with 4 GBAs and 4 link cables. Crystal Chronicles was my jam. I never got to play four swords though...

  • @rudolphna54
    @rudolphna54 5 років тому

    Honestly once I used the tingle tracker thing in Windwaker, I refused to play the game without it ever again. It's pretty damn convenient and nice to have.

  • @kduhtdkzrt
    @kduhtdkzrt 6 років тому +7

    Four Swords. So many memories. Cant believe its been 15 years.

  • @moth.monster
    @moth.monster 6 років тому +4

    The third party cables work just fine. One that i have has some durability problems, but it's almost fifteen years old now so I can accept that honestly. The other one is new and works great as well. They're really just cables.

  • @JessieEchidna
    @JessieEchidna 6 років тому

    Pac-Man Vs was originally just an E3 demo intended specifically to showcase some of the possibilities of the GameCube GBA Link Cable. Zelda FourSwords (the original) was un-bundled and re-released as a free DSiWare download on the Nintendo 3DS for a limited time, but Pac-Man Vs was re-bundled and continues to be sold on the Nintendo Switch...
    Both games are rather hard to get set up with, considering one was a limited time offer and the other requires a friend's Switch, but I suppose being able to buy it again still beats not being able to obtain it at all, so... Kudos to Namco for at least attempting to keep the game available??

  • @DraculaXHunter101
    @DraculaXHunter101 6 років тому

    The GBA link cable always made Pokemon so much more fun TBH.

  • @19Szabolcs91
    @19Szabolcs91 6 років тому +16

    Oh man, Crystal Chronicles is so awesome, and it's truly special. Even after all these years, there isn't anything else like this (its own sequels were very different, and also not very good..)
    But it truly WAS hindered by needing GBAs for multiplayer, and it wasn't justified in any good way like in Four Swords Adventures.

    • @EskChan19
      @EskChan19 5 років тому

      uhm... yes it was? It had the menu for every player on the GBA screen, so people could be in the menu at the same time. It gave everyone an own map, it added the bonus point feature for everyone, it had a TON of features that would have simply been impossible without the GBA. So yes, it was completely justified. Without GBAs the game wouldn't have been possible in the same way.

    • @kryzethx
      @kryzethx 3 роки тому +1

      @@EskChan19 None of those features have to be exclusive to the GBA, except for the menu, which is the hardest thing to do without pausing the action for everybody.
      The different maps/radars are interesting, but you can easily just put the minimap on the TV screen. The bonuses can just be shown to everybody at the start; this is a coop game, you shouldn't be competing for score (Four Swords Adventures has enough of that). And the lack of buttons on the GBA limited the combat system more than anything. X or Y could have been used for quick guard or food commands, which you can never reactively use because of the slow L/R command swapping, especially with big lists of spells.
      The menu system is really the only issue. Not easy to squeeze the menu into a quarter of 480p screen and still be legible AND not block the other player's view of the action

  • @DonnieDoodles
    @DonnieDoodles 6 років тому

    5:10
    I rate the original FFCC as one of the hardest games I've played due to the fact that single player is WAY more difficult than it should be. I still beat it, but god DAMN.

  • @Ubebread1
    @Ubebread1 4 роки тому

    Tingle tracker in windwaker helps you find things and navigate through the map

  • @TimelostFlare
    @TimelostFlare 5 років тому

    Way to remind me Vamos Ay Carnival is the lobby theme for PSO2 in Easter.

  • @SakuraAvalon
    @SakuraAvalon 6 років тому

    Something about the GameCube's games have this interesting feel. I almost wish I had a GameCube.

  • @expendableindigo9639
    @expendableindigo9639 3 роки тому

    If you have the Tingle Tracker, there’s actually a Majora’s Mask reference hidden in Wind Waker!

  • @peterpeterson4800
    @peterpeterson4800 6 років тому

    I played Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles as a kid, and I liked it. I didn't know any other final fantasy games though, and I think didn't really understand the game anyway.

  • @CassietheReal
    @CassietheReal 6 років тому

    They brought Pac -Man Vs. to the DS and Switch in the consoles' respective Namco Museums

  • @AlexWitney
    @AlexWitney 6 років тому +13

    That Pac-Man game looks like great fun!

    • @undercoverweeb
      @undercoverweeb 6 років тому +1

      alex & emily four days ago? what magic is this

    • @megamarsonic
      @megamarsonic 6 років тому +1

      Patreon backer I think.

  • @SummonerArthur
    @SummonerArthur 6 років тому

    "Eighter the gamecube *or wii"*
    Thats what I was looking for. Thank you.

  • @JohnDoe-xh5wp
    @JohnDoe-xh5wp 6 років тому

    As someone that has 4 gc link cables and 4 gbas my friends hated me when I brought FSA in cause it would take an hour just to clear one world over constant fighting.

  • @MudkipOnYT
    @MudkipOnYT 5 років тому

    nobody:
    SSFF: 8 minute video on a cable

    • @StopSkeletonsFromFighting
      @StopSkeletonsFromFighting  5 років тому +1

      Stay tuned, the follow-up is coming soon and will be much longer

    • @MudkipOnYT
      @MudkipOnYT 5 років тому

      Stop Skeletons From Fighting Amazing! Thanks for the heart! 💖

  • @Discoh
    @Discoh 6 років тому +4

    Pac-Man VS was also included in Namco Museum DS. That version’s pretty fun.

  • @KevinTheTimeGeek86
    @KevinTheTimeGeek86 6 років тому

    Derek, have you ever heard of a game called "Skurge: Hive"? It came out for GBA and DS and is kinda like Metroid, except from an isometric perspective. I think it needs more attention, so if you could do a vid on it, I'd love it. Thanks!

  • @julianx2rl
    @julianx2rl 2 роки тому

    Fun fact: Some GBA games are compatible with rumble through the Gameboy Player, one such title is Superstar Saga.

  • @schizogony
    @schizogony 6 років тому

    Gang Cube should be the name of Ice Cube's next album.

  • @halberdierv2
    @halberdierv2 6 років тому

    had a mad catz 3rd party cable. managed to be superior since didnt have that bulky curve to connect to the gba, and it also doubled as a link cable. oh the days of link cables.

  • @Olkv3D
    @Olkv3D 2 роки тому

    Pac-Man VS is so freakin awesome!

  • @Tyresome
    @Tyresome 5 років тому

    Some really cool games in here man. Such a great piece of hardware too!

  • @Slenderquil
    @Slenderquil 6 років тому

    Pac man vs was also on a namco museum game on ds, without the Mario voice over

  • @thisisabadchannel.stopsubs2952
    @thisisabadchannel.stopsubs2952 6 років тому +6

    I don't think it's fair to have the Discord locked away to patrons, so I'll start a free, unofficial one. Anyone who likes that can reply in the comments. It's not done at the moment, invite coming soon

  • @yostoyou
    @yostoyou 6 років тому

    Coincidentally, I recently purchased two GBA SPs (which I re-shelled and modified) and two link cables. It's a blast playing some of these games for sure, but I wish there were more multiplayer games.
    Most games just use it as a bonus unlocking thing it seems.
    I tried Tingle Tracker back in the GC days and it ain't anything special. It really just is a way for a second player to screw around and bomb the crap out of everything (by wasting your precious rupees).
    I can't remember being able to do much else, but I didn't try it that much.

  • @badreality2
    @badreality2 5 років тому

    You should have given Final Fantasy: Chrystal Cronicles, more of a chance. With three friends, it is really fun.

  • @yamigekusu
    @yamigekusu 6 років тому +12

    Some heartless jerk broke into my house and stole my GameCube and all the accessories I had for it (including four spare sets of official Nintendo AV cables...). I had the link cable to play Pac-Man Vs with my nephew. Now that I don't have the link cable, it's unplayable...

    • @KuraIthys
      @KuraIthys 6 років тому +5

      mmh. I know that pain. It's happened to me twice in my life.
      Well, not breaking into my house, but the effect is the same.
      First time lost me my SNES and everything that went with it.
      Second time my n64, pristine boxed copy of Ocarina of Time, and boxed copy of Goldeneye.
      (my copy of Mario 64 somehow survived.)
      I got secondhand replacements, but the packaging is gone for good, and almost impossible to replace.
      Somehow lost my US copy of a Link to the Past as well, though I'm unclear when and where since everything that was with it was still there.
      Really sucks.

  • @MarbleCellar
    @MarbleCellar 6 років тому

    Were you guys aware that Pac Man VS was actually rereleased for the first time on Switch last year, as a part of NAMCO Museum [citation needed]?

  • @RobinE_Art
    @RobinE_Art 6 років тому +5

    PacMan VS eventually came to the switch via Namco museum. So thats something atleast.

    • @mspeter97
      @mspeter97 6 років тому +2

      and there's a DS port of the game in Namco Museum DS.
      It's...not that good compared to the Gamecube original but it's a bit easier to setup

  • @RedFlameFox
    @RedFlameFox 6 років тому

    This is a very nice idea, I have 4 of them... sadly you can't charge your GBA with it, so it's quite annoying if you're playing a 4 players game like Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles

  • @ThePerro
    @ThePerro 6 років тому

    You could also use the eReader and link cable together if I recall. I did that with Animal Crossing to get card specific furniture

    • @StopSkeletonsFromFighting
      @StopSkeletonsFromFighting  6 років тому

      We have an eReader but not a lot of cards, so we’ll make a proper video after we scoop up a few on ebay or something.

    • @ThePerro
      @ThePerro 6 років тому

      Stop Skeletons From Fighting I still have my eReader and cards somewhere. Do you guys have a PO box? I'd consider donating them if I could find em.

  • @-libertyprimev1-902
    @-libertyprimev1-902 5 років тому

    Just a heads up, Pac-man Vs is on the Switch now in a Arcade Classic Type Bundle. Need another Device (in this case another Switch) to play as Pac-man though, without it you can still play 3 Player where Pac-man is a Com...

  • @bathtubbuddy
    @bathtubbuddy 6 років тому

    Loved four swords. Loved Crystal chronicles. I was fortunate to play them with ppl. Hahaha wind waker was also fun tinkering with tingle. Not so usefull but pretty neat

  • @Nintendude.
    @Nintendude. 6 років тому +1

    Being the huge Metroid fan I was I bought that cable for that very reason.
    Yeah I was kinda disappointed that the fusion suit was just a re-skin; no power grip, screw attack, no log data about the suit, etc (yes even more about Zero mission & Echoes later on)
    Thankfully I have come across most of the other comparable games & extra cables by chance.
    Final Fantasy CC was.... ok... (solo - I couldn't find anyone who was willing to play this game with me) I never did finished the game I'm not a big RPG fan anyway yet...
    I still have it right there collecting dust hoping that one day I get to try the full experience.
    Wind Waker was "meh" or worse.
    Fire Emblem (GBA) & Mario Kart was a nice surprise. I definitely recommended Fire Emblem fans to try it out.
    Pacman vs was hands down THE BEST easy to use, pick up and play and anyone and EVERYONE would play this game even my parents and uncles played for a nostalgia blast.
    Lastly a list of games that could have used the cable in someway:
    Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
    Skies of Arcadia
    Luigi's Mansion
    Paper Mario and The Thousand Year Door + Fire Emblem 7

  • @ovolmase6724
    @ovolmase6724 6 років тому +3

    I actually had these devices back when I was a wee boy. I actually did a full windwaker play through with the tingle tuner and even got all the secret bonuses from it (don't remember what they were but I got them)

  • @joaquinfernandez1752
    @joaquinfernandez1752 6 років тому +7

    03:27 i wish i had friends

  • @demonboy619
    @demonboy619 6 років тому

    This channel is great, love Nintendo wierdness

  • @vizsla826
    @vizsla826 6 років тому +7

    Do a video about the gba card readers

  • @joaquincastaneda6695
    @joaquincastaneda6695 6 років тому

    Pacman VS was also bundle with some random racing car game

  • @Vednier
    @Vednier 5 років тому

    5:04 - WHOA

  • @childofcascadia
    @childofcascadia 6 років тому

    I too remember being so stoked for crystal chronicles. Then I got it and found out it was a party game action adventure, not actual final fantasy. Okay... I tried it alone and found it boring AF. I called a friend to come over and play it. Then we found out you needed a GBA and link cable for each person to do any multiplayer at all. I remember being so annoyed I sold it the next day.
    I'm sure I wasnt the only one who felt like this.

  • @topo8444
    @topo8444 6 років тому +1

    Pac-Man vs. was also included in the namco museum for the DS. Its a lot like the one for GameCube though everyone needs their on DS but only one game card. Worth getting the game for just that!

  • @ssbmunch7012
    @ssbmunch7012 6 років тому

    Parappa the rapper or how Yoshi's island broke the formula for 2-d Mario games at the time and succeeded

  • @maxresdefault_
    @maxresdefault_ 6 років тому

    The LINK cable came with a zelda game, staring LINK

  • @TheDoctorProfessor
    @TheDoctorProfessor 6 років тому +2

    How about an episode about weird or unnecessary extra modes? For examples, Resident Evil has a slew of odd battle games and the mercenaries modes that include some really odd stuff, especially in the earlier games. Another example would be the VR missions amd Snake Tales in Metal Gear Solid 2, which offer some really crazy mechanics and alternate reality stories.