Possessive and Controlling at Just 16 Years Old. | Martice Fuller & Kaylie Juga
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- Possessive and Controlling at Just 16 Years Old. | Martice Fuller & Kaylie Juga
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As a parent, this case is terrifying. Prayers to the entire family.
Thanks for uploading! This case is quite disturbing
I agree! My oldest daughter starts high school next year too! There's SO much to worry about as a parent!
When are these cute lil white girls going to learn. Stop dating these thugs there’s plenty of good looking alpha jock type white boys.
Don't forget Stephanie Harlowe and Brittany Vaughn
Can you PLEASE do a story on Angelica (AJ) Hassell fm Norfolk Va. the cort case just ended a month or so ago. Her step-dad killed her and dumped her a hour away in a country area of Virginia on the North Carolina line... I am fm Southampton County Va where he tried to hide the horrible thing he did he knew of the area because he had business out here. It really is a crazy case and I know you would do the story justice! please check it out! 🙏🏼
An order of protection or restraining order is nothing to a stalker. It’s basically just a paper trail for after the stalker does something terrifying to their victim! Which is exactly why we need more serious laws protecting victims instead of coddling the criminal
10000% Agree! That was never going to stop him from what he had already planned in his own mind. Restraining orders are literally, just a piece of a paper to majority of people.
It’s awful that an abuser can threaten, stalk and harass their victims with zero consequences. Until the abuser actually causes bodily harm to their victim the police always say they can’t do anything, but write a report. The fact that nothing can be done to the abuser until the victim is injured is what frustrates me the most. It becomes exhausting and so terrifying to even leave your home or be alone for fear of what might happen. Nobody should EVER have to live that way, but yet so many people are living in fear of their lives on a daily basis right now. My oldest daughters father threatened my life and all I could do was make a police report about the incident. No human being should have to live in fear of their life, and nobody should have to lose their life because a mentally ill person is obsessed with possessing another. This story is heartbreaking. This poor young woman’s family will suffer so much PTSD and sadness for the rest of their lives over the loss of their beautiful baby girl. All because a boy became obsessed with her. All the signs were there and nobody could save her. That’s not right. 😢🤬
Aptly, succinctly and very well stated. More importantly, profoundly correct.
That "piece of paper" is dangerous! It makes the abuser more satisfied knowing he/she has the victim scared! Worst thing about that piece of paper in QLD is that the abuser gets 3 chances to kill the victim before the abuser gets jailed???? 🤦😭🤦😭
Exactly 👏
I'm 17 minutes in but I'm impressed that the school actually tried to do something and intervene and keep this poor girl safe.
It's freaking terrifying how manipulative he is. I mean trying to get his family to cover for him, trying to get his family to tamper with the jury and now manipulating fellow inmates? Thank God he's never getting out.
I agree, it’s terrifying because he is clearly a master manipulator who probably started these tactics at home with his parents. I wish we could’ve heard their take on how he was as a kid and why they felt the need to kick him out. Honestly I think there may have been fear from their part and probably felt relieved not having to deal with him on a day to day basis. It doesn’t excuse their neglect though
@@Londi1213 Exactly! It all goes back to the parents.
@@Londi1213 I'm surprised the law didn't get involved sooner. I mean wouldn't the parents have to tell the cops they couldn't have him in their house for whatever reason? They just put him out for society to deal with him.
@@cjrrob7336 exactly. Look at the Crumbly case. The parents are being held accountable. Why aren't these parents?
@@TheMightyBlackPearl 💯
Memorizing the names of the jurors to intimidate them is INSANE. He’s a psychopath
Abusive and controlling relationships among teenagers are more common than you'd think. I know so many friends from high school, as well as me who went through this. Parents need to be hyperaware of who their teenagers choose to spend their time with. This case is beyond saddening. Prayers for her family and friends. RIP Kaylie.
That was a HUGE issue with my parents and I when I got older. My first boyfriend use to beat me up and EVERY ADULT INVOLVED ON BOTH SIDES heard the abuse happening and did nothing. There was one time his grandmother walked in while he had me pinned down and shoving his thumbs in my pressure points and she told me to “quiet down or get out of (her) house.” His family denied the abuse when I reported it and even went as far as telling everyone they knew that I was crazy.
@@KMcKenzie9 Girls need to quit choosing scumbags. Lol.
I was 19 when I was stalked for the first time. I had just met a new friend on campus and we were going to the nearby coffee shop off campus. There we met her brother and a group of his friends. By that night one of the brother's friends was texting me (got my number from my friend by saying he has 3 girls under Annie and doesn't know which one I was, I had never given him my number) by the end of the week, in 2 days, I was receiving texts at 6am "I'm waiting in front of your dorm". When I blocked him, I started getting a few FB messages an hour about where I was and what I was doing from different accounts, most were questions but some were actual pics of me taken from outside the library or a shop. It was a few months of fear until I rented a room and moved, changed my cell number and stopped using social media. I had seen and talked to that dude only once and he had to go to work, now imagine how bad it could have gotten had we actually gone on a date. This is mental!
And yes, I considered calling the cops but after talking with older girls, they said the cops won't do anything unless there is a clear threat in the messages or it's too late to do anything to help me, which sadly is the truth. I was also tempted to just go out with him once to shut him up, but I was very afraid of the escalation. Luckily for me he was after any freshmen girl so I heard he moved on on the 4th or 5th month and even tried to make me feel either jealous or regretful by sending me pics of his new girl from unknown numbers.
One of my best friends got into an abusive relationship our freshman year of college and it took her a year of breaking up and getting back together for her to finally leave him (so proud of her). We talked shit about him with her mom when they first broke up but he somehow managed to charm her parents and even grandparents and they loved him. Even a lot of our friend group liked him. He’s a disgusting rapist. It’s sadly a story we hear over and over like you said. At least my friend has some solace in the fact that he somehow managed to fail out of college (he was a freshman still at 21 even while taking classes) so he got kicked out and then got in a car crash (he lived). Plus in the scenes he still hangs in at our college he’s become mostly unwelcome for violent behavior (shocker) so good riddance
This judge deserves an award! She saved lives by realizing he will never be better. So many teenage killers are let out, only to kill again, eventually.
IMO she 100,000,000% did the right thing!
I thought it studies showed the opposite
I'm conflicted. My instinct is... throw away the key. But I've personally known teenage offenders who *completely* change in adulthood.
@@deathbywords give em a bit
He's a really evil handsome guy. Usually only the uglies have ugly hearts
@@RustyShackleford051 lol I'm nearing middle age. Humans can make better choices. -- We're all still disappointing though, don't get me wrong.
I’m 20 now, but was in high school pre Covid. I think adults nowadays make the fatal mistake of believing teens and preteens are innocent or naïve. In the age of social media and unfettered internet access, anyone can access anything. I struggled fighting for my best friend’s freedom from a similar relationship at the age of 14. I watched kids record principal conversations without their knowledge in order to manipulate school social events. Kids have guns- where I live it’s because families hunt, but in other cities it’s because of gang violence. I live in an incredibly safe and quiet suburban town, but that does not mean our teens are quiet and kind. I will never underestimate kids, as I’ve seen how easy it is for some to act on their desires or research their dark interests. I’ve seen hate crimes be passed off as childish ignorance, but I know fully well that is not the case. I’ve seen SA cases be undermined because “kids are kids” and I vehemently reject this concept. To me, kids can be great, but they can be malicious and cruel. I don’t think this has ever not been the case, but I think the environment today nurtures and promotes twisted behavior.
I agree I think they let a lot of teens get away with seriously fucked up shit like murder because they're teens cause they're teens sorry if they're doing this in their teens I can't imagine what they will do as adults
I completely agree. Such a very sad case of a control freak losing control of a girl who was beautiful inside and out and was so obsessed he rather take her life than move on. He has no empathy at all and to think the family welcomed him into their home. Unbelievable. I’m also (like Anna) questioning why his parents are held responsible for his not having a proper home to stay. If he was that bad why did they not get him help or were they scared of him. Makes you 🤔
Don’t kno why they’d do that. It’s shocking but in the 80s we were very much NOT innocent or naive in middle school and CERTAINLY not at high school age.
It’s just…..jaw dropping how anyone could think growing kids throughout human history were so innocent & naive until what 20?
🤣😂🤣
And then comes the internet days & it’s only NOW that kids are….so corrupted and jaded lmfao
Anyhow. Sorry just not the case. Clearly ignorant of any social history
I agree with you 100% and this no snitching within family and friends especially in more black communities is crazy. Kids up to 25 yrs old don't even know consequences which means they do the action and then think "oh crap what did I do" and that is scary!! Don't get me wrong there is plenty of young people that do think before doing but today with internet and gaming it has corrupted children and now we have schools trying to separate children by color because of blm and lgbtq brainwashing. My child came home the other day and said "my teacher and a friend told me if I just say "I am bi or trans" my life would be easier and I would get special privileges in school" and then she came home yesterday saying "Our school said "whites lives don't matter only until blacks lives are first" and me and my friends don't like that because we all matter" My child is black and knows this is not right but just think how many whites children are feeling pushed back over something they had no control over centuries to decades ago that politics and activist that have no clue what they are doing or maybe they do is pushing this dangerous narrative that is going to cause more young children to harm each other!!! smh sad world today!!
I agree with you 100%
I went to school with Kaylie for many years. It was weird to hear something like this happen to someone i seen every day. I still see her mom's car around town with bumper stickers with her name on it. Rest in peace Kaylie 😞💕
Rip kaylie ! Can you tell us how she was like personally? She seemed so sweet
@@vminajj1267 we didn't talk very much, i wasnt part of the "in" group. But she was nice! Never heard anyone speak an ill word of her
@@kaitokisser_ oh wow that’s good to hear. And yeah sometimes not being apart of the “in “ group isn’t too bad. I wonder how martice acted in school etc but this case is very sad and I hope she’s resting peacefully
So sad dv crazyness
She was so beautiful
I'm 44, and Annie is 100% right. Listen to your Mom, ladies. I still listen to mine! And if you're in a violent or controlling situation, you've got to find the strength to get out. They will NEVER change.
His annoyed look while the judge is talking boils my blood. He's literally a psychopath.
God comfort and bless that family 🙏🏾
Same. I can barely watch it. I hate him.
Agree! What a little punk
This happens alot around the world, sadly, a crime was committed against my 16 yr old granddaughter, she met a 15 yr old boy when she was 14 years old, he began to control her in every way and he would hit her, we would see bruises and she would tell us that she fell, that she hit herself with the door, etc, etc, many excuses, mind you, we never knew that she was seeing this boy or anyone at all,he controlled what she wore, her social media, who she spoke to, her friends. We didn't know anything about what was going on, then she stopped seeing him for two yrs, last year she began to speak to him and one day last year she was in school and he lured her to his house staring that his Mom wanted to say hi to her, so she came out of school, skipping her after school program and she went to his house, she initially; when she got there, she noticed that his Moms car was not there so she was apprehensive at first, but he said come in shes inside, my granddaughter trusted him and when she went in, he immediately began to beat her, broke her nails by pulling them back, he raped her, sodomized her, filmed her and went to cut her throat, but when she pushed back he cut her breast and left her bleeding and badly beaten on the living room floor and he went to the kitchen, she heard him fumbling through things in the kitchen and she gathered herself together and with all her strength made it out of that house, she tumbled towards the school where immediately they took her to the hospital, My God, we were astonished and angry, she needed 35 stitches, she had emotomas all over her face and head, he bit her, he was arrested that same evening, he recently got sentenced to 15 yrs, then strict parole for 5 yrs, then reg parole for life plus he must register as a sex offender, if he violates the strict 5 yr parole he must then go back to prison for 25 yrs. He is now 17 yrs old. My granddaughter recovered from her injuries but she is in therapy for life. I'm happy that she survived because she is a beautiful Angel in this world, after this, she tells us everything about her, NO MORE SECRETS.
Omg bless her poor soul.
I was in two abusive relationships back to back one for two years and then one for 1 1/2 it’s so scary being in that moment not knowing whether or not you’ll come out alive. I hope she can go on to warn other youngsters about what can happen with boys like that. That’s the only way we can bring a lot of awareness, it helps hearing it from people who actually work through it and I Say family because I know it’s hard talking about it with strangers and everybody needs to hear about it.
💜 to you and your granddaughter. I’m glad she survived.
@ Norma.....Oh, my GOODNESS!! Thank our FATHER IN HEAVEN that baby made it out of there before he had time to do anything MORE to her!
I KNOW she will FOREVER be traumatized and affected by such horrific acts done to her especially by someone who was suppose to have cared about her.
My prayer for her is that, with time and therapy, she will be able to make a full recovery from his demented actions against her and she'll, eventually, find a wonderful young man who will treat her like a queen and whom she can trust with her very life and never, EVER be afraid.....a young man who will forever PROTECT her from ALL harm.
I pray that you and your family are able to overcome the shock and pain that this has caused you all, as well.
God Bless you all!
My god. She’s so strong and a survivor. Just a heads up, nobody is ever on parole forever. I’m assuming they used the word “indefinitely” or something similar. It’s until they deem that person fit to not be on it anymore. So for some it’s 4 years.
I live in the same town this happened in, and when everyone found out it was heartbreaking. her mom still struggles so much to this day, but she’s doing her best. thank you SO much for covering this case, i know it’s gonna mean the world to her mama 💜
@erykah Christensen please share this with Stephanie if you can! I live in Kenosha too and the more awareness we can bring to this, the better! ❤️
I'm so very sorry to her mom & the rest of her family & friends. She sounds like she was a bright & mature young girl coming to the decision on her own to break up wasn't easy I'm sure. May she rest in peace & her family find comfort in their memories. 💘
@@LadyFDD i sent it to her! i’ll keep you updated on what she says! 💜
@@erykahchristensen981 sending her a big hug from Montana. 🙏
I bet she does struggle. I can't imagine anything more heartbreaking than losing a child, especially losing one in such a violent way. I'm sure she feels a lot of guilt along with her grief. Please tell her people on this thread are so VERY sorry for her loss and our thoughts are with her. 😥
The letter he had his lawyer read in court is a perfect example of why this person should not be afforded parole. What a heartbreaking and scary situation. As always, you do a great job communicating these important cases!
Yes he said he was innocent, and his mom lost a son. All about himself.
yes this!!! I was shocked at that letter he wrote!! extremely selfish!! entitled and think he did nothing wrong!! absolutely disgusting of a human being!
His lawyer should've had the integrity and decency to not read that letter.
@danielrobbins9776 I think the lawyer also knew the letter was ridiculous, but she has to do her job.
what got me is he was saying he didn’t show emotion bc his mom lost a son too. BITCH YOU DID THAT!! and due to your actions a family lost their daughter.
As a mom to a 17 year old boy who was living in another state at the time, I had ZERO idea how toxic his relationship was with his gf at the time. As SOON as I figured out what she was up to, I was in his state and bringing him back home with me. We have to be involved in our kids lives.
You sound like a great mom. ❤
You did the right thing
This into on this episode is the best one you have. The others were and are too long.
@@mc1069 have you ever heard of divorced parents?? It does happen… good lord how judgmental can you be?? He is here with me now… And he was playing division 1 HS football where he was, was surrounded by family, and had good grades. Until the gf. And I immediately took control of the situation. Again, if that’s the kind of high and mighty attitude and judgmental view to your child, do you think THATS being a good parent??? SMH. Troll.
@@mc1069 U obviously live under a rock 🤦🏻♀️ A LOT OF KIDS LIVE WITH ONE OF THEIR PARENTS IN A DIFFERENT STATE/CITY FROM THE OTHER PARENT smmfh Nothing like being an ignorant slow fool
My Mom loved my high school boyfriend so much that when I told her he was hitting me and more, her response was that I must have done something to deserve it. I wish my Mom had loved me enough to protect me.
Mine didn’t protect me, either. She told me “I asked you if he was abusing you and you said ‘no’ so what was I suppose to do?” Um… maybe intervene?
😢
I’m sorry you had to go through that. That is horrible. Maybe your mom was abused and thought people deserved to be abused?
Oh my god I'm so sorry!!! That is insane!! I hope you are in a much better position now. ❤
😢😢😢
His letter in the trial was reason enough not to release him on parole in the future imo. He is extremely dangerous and has no remorse. So disturbing to think he was only 15.
And I have a inkling that prison won't sober him up but make him all the more dangerous if his arrogance doesn't get him killed.
My jaw DROPPED when you said his defense team tried to gaslight Stephanie, the mother who was there and also got shot, by saying she doesn’t remember things clearly due to the traumatic situation. Wow.
And the letter at the end! Like yeah his mom lost her son because of what HE did, not because he was murdered and taken away by an evil individual
it’s sad but that’s the job of a defense attorney. doesn’t mean they even believe what they’re saying
What else could they have done? there needs to be a defense otherwise the whole court system doesn't work fairly. They probably knew it woouldn't work.
Right like even if she hadn’t seen his face she would still know who is was she’s seen him a thousand times and he was the only threat to her daughter
this case hit way close to home. my ex bf was physically and sexually abusive to me at 14-16 years old. we had a son which he is not allowed to see and sadly my court case was dropped against him. if there is any other young girls reading this, please know that they never change.
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Exactly.., they never change they never give up and they’re dangerous…, my baby father is a psycho and you can’t argue with insane
Wish you all the best, sad but true
girl my heart goes out to you. ❤
High schoolers and middle schoolers should be better educated about domestic violence and relationship boundaries. I was stalked for 2 years in high school and after, by an ex. During the relationship, I had no idea that what I was dealing with was toxic. This guys was so manipulative and had me convinced that his behavior was my fault. I finally got the courage to see a school counselor who helped me realize how much danger I was in and helped me talk to my parents… and yes, they were relieved when we broke up. They tried hard not to step in but I really wish they had.
From someone who HAAAATES to admit that her mother was right. When it came to relationships my mother was ALWAYS right. It’s okay if you wanna learn the lesson yourself but just know listening to mom sometimes can save you from ALOT of bs
Same
Yeah because we mom's have lived longer & been through things. We speak from experience & acquired wisdom which comes with age. ✌🌻🌻
Mine too, lol. They are ALWAYS right...
So so true! My mom saved me from a lot of trouble. At the time I thought she was overbearing but as a 26 year old woman I appreciate her beyond words.
I think it’s important to note this does NOT apply to children of narcissistic or emotionally/physically abusive mothers.
This case is terrifying.. he showed zero remorse man and his statement saying he is not as bad as the media portrays him. Like seriously..my heart breaks for kaylie’s family.. she deserves so much more. Such a bright life gone to soon. Such a senseless and brutal crime.
When I was 13, I “dated” a guy who was the same way. I definitely dodged a bullet with him. He was 19. He broke my finger and my parents found out. Thankfully I’m still alive and he finally moved on, but he married and beats his wife now. He has 3 kids and named his daughter after me. He’s obviously still obsessed. It’s crazy
19 year old with a literal child. Absolute predator. He’s disgusting. I’m happy your parents found out and you’re here and well. I hope his children and his wife are able to escape him. People like him just literally contribute to broken youth.
@@feyrie absolutely.
Woah. Glad you made it out ok!
Stay safe! You never know if he'll decide one day to insert himself back into your life.
Glad you got away
As an educator, I teach children (high schoolers) like him every single day. It’s terrifying being around young children and witnessing their behavior towards their parents and their peers. I try to think positively about each child in hopes that they will mature and grow and be different but many of them scare me to the point where I am afraid they will end up in prison for violent crimes
Do you have any suggestions regarding what steps to take? My 15 yr old niece is in a controlling relationship and her parents are going to speak to her and approach the school next week, but idk just how much can be done. He has encouraged her to kill herself.
Please find a different career. They are counting on you to be afraid and it’s not helping any of them.
@@SuperDesignChick you’re suggesting she change careers bc kids are aggressive and undisciplined these days.. wow. Problem solved.
@@Crystal_chill yup, it would be for her. Living in fear every day because parents won’t do their jobs is no way to live. It creates a permanent fight/flight response in your body that you eventually cannot turn off. They are better off changing careers. They cannot help these kids if they are afraid.
@@SuperDesignChickthat not what u said in your first comment at all. “Yea it’s for her” but in the first comment “you being afraid don’t help them” basically calling her a bad teacher
As a 21 year old girl freshly not a teenager anymore, I can definitely see all the ways my mom was right about sooo many things in my youth. It’s crazy to think how once you’ve grown a bit it’s easy to step back see, holy cow she was right! 😂
Love the videos and your whole vibe Annie, and speaking of my mom I got her hooked on your channel now we watch together. Keep up the great work we love you and the work you do!❤
Right!! I’m literally in this spot, except my parents don’t care anymore and I don’t know how to get away. But yeah , my mom was right!!
Almost never comment but I’ve been watching since you had around 17 thousand subscribers , it’s amazing seeing how far you’ve come! You , Kendall Rae and Christina Randall are my favorites! :)
I watch all 3 religiously as well 😁❤
Thank you so much!! That is such an amazing compliment! And thank you for being such a loyal supporter!
Love all three of them as well!
Me too
I agree! Also love Stephanie Harlowe, Rachel Shannon, Jackie Flores & Brooke MaKenna
I just can't understand how half the town knew he was riding past her house with a gun and did nothing. I know it's his parents obligation to call the cops if necessary. But when it was crystal clear they wouldn't someone else should have. It's a crying shame everyone failed her.
That was my thought too. I love my children to death but I'd call the police immediately. Better my child have a gun charge, than take another life. Or if it was flipped and I heard that about my child's significant other. Not only would I call the police but my home would be a fortress and I would have my own fire arm ready for him to show up
@@rachell7941 I agree 💯. Her parents along with a bunch of other people should have called the cops. I truly believe there would have been a much better outcome for her.👊👍
That is what i thought myself. The police should have been informed about his stalking. Very sad
I also don't understand how they allowed her to see him after the incident at the school. A restraining order should have been placed and every time he was by the house the police should have been called. I would have put my daughter in self defense.
I agree. I feel like this is a racist situation and it's bc he was black that the town treated him so badly. People need to know that people like me have to constantly deal with racism. Every second a white supremacist is trying to kill us. Being hunted down every time we leave our house. We get degraded by Cops. We also have slavery in the back of our minds. Fear whites will make us slaves again. So we snap at times. I feel like this kid is the same. He was talked down to bc he black. Times be weird
#blacklivesmatter
That final letter was of a complete self centred psychopath - at this stage he must think we are all dumb it was all about him ‘the loss of my ex gf’ YOU KILLED HER !!
Oh but he said he was innocent and he would never lie....🙄🙄🙄
Every adult that knew he was kicked out of his house or not living at home without a permanent living arrangement elsewhere had the responsibility to report to child protective services. Kaylee’s parents should bring a civil suit against his parents suing them for neglect so criminal charges will be brought so they are held responsible. If the states not going to hold them responsible for neglecting their son, then they could bring on a civil suit and push them that way. Someone has to take responsibility for this child. He was 15 years old living on his own, basically from house to house. He needed serious psychological help and is to blame for his actions but as a child no one was helping him when he needed it.
They absolutely should
Where’s the parenting? You may not like your teenager but he/she is still your responsibility. You don’t just wash your hands of them and make them everyone else’s problem.
Not these days. Remember back when parents were responsible for their children and their behavior until they were 18.. Parents are no longer held responsible. But I bet they claim him and get that tax refund!
we need to arm our daughters with boundaries, self worth, and an understanding of what is and is not okay in how people treat them.
The most important thing to teach them is that the first and most important symptom of a toxic relationship is the feeling of being constricted! That’s the sign to get out of that relationship.
Exactly right. I shout this all they time!
The sad thing is, she knew. She was a smart girl and tried leaving him. That’s why he did this 😞
Or teach sons not to be manipulative, abusive & controlling lol
@@sassysucculent6291 That’s actually extremely common. Controlling people are made by abandonment. Therefore; abandonment is their trigger. This is when most murders happen, when the person decides they had enough.
He was even allowed to have a gun after his non stop egregious behaviour; how utterly ridiculous. His parents sound as if they knew the score where he was concerned and were responsible enough to warn everyone to look out as he was broadcasting his determination to kill Kaylie .
True and all the parents that let him stay on their couches for weeks without speaking to his parents about why he was thrown out. He should have had to go home and live with his parents' rules. All the adults failed here,, not just his own family.
@@apriljk6557 I think his parents might have had to keep him in a box and what would 10 to Life have to say to that ?
He wasn’t allowed to have a gun, he got it somehow by himself, I blame his parents , there were a lot of organizations that could have helped him , this story is sad all the way around, two young people lost their lives . This kid will probably end up dead in jail ……..
I’ve found it interesting when people say, “somehow, she was convinced by him again”. I can see how someone might see it as being “convinced or forgiving”, it’s not just that. It’s fear. When you feel someone won’t let you go, you convince yourself you want to be with them because the fear of them never letting you go is too frightening to handle.
"Exactly" That's just what it is.
Spot on!
Also the fear they cause due to manipulation it could be them saying they’ll Jill themselves or hurt themselves if they left or say that you’re like everyone else you’re not special there’s so many things abusers use to manipulate their partner to not leave it’s scary
Guilt too. They have a way of making you feel guilty.
I understand but Id still risk it.
It's unfortunate that the parents washed their hands of their son and weren't strict with him. He got so out of control due to his parents being lenient in the things he did. It's truly sad that a young girl had to die. We need better laws to protect victims of stalking
Maybe the parents couldn’t handle him themselves and didn’t know what to do anymore. Just wondering if that was the case…
Kicking an underage kid out is NEVER the solution. Unless it's for Inpatient treatment (the good kind with good professionals not those abusive troubled teens camps)
They weren't lenient. They kicked him out. Maybe he thought they were too strict and rebelled.
I watched this whole trial and it was heartbreaking. The Judge was one of the best that I have seen. The testimony of her Mother was chilling and I cried the whole time watching her. As a parent of three daughters, I couldn't even imagine what they had to go through.
I loved the way the judge explained the reasons to him why he was being sentenced the way he was.
You must love seeing black men getting slammed with jail time right? You and ya klan buddies get a good laugh at seeing a black boy get his life destroyed by a racist white system???? And you wonder why we don't like yall?
#ChicagoBLM
#WHITEbGONE
I commend the adults for trying to do what they could to protect Kaylie, including the school. It is so heartbreaking she lost her life due to this psychopath.
I feel compelled to comment here that an order of protection DOES NOT protect DV victims.
NOT AT ALL :/
Martice is an awful, conniving person.
Shout out to that judge for roasting him the way she did.👏🏼
The judges statement was so perfectly written! You did great on the video always great editing skills mama. My condolences going out to the family. As a mother of 2 teenage daughters this really makes me worry. Yeah the parents kicking him out didn't help his mindset.
I have a feeling that he left his home himself, he didnt want to live under his parents rules, and id guess that they were scared of him too.
When I was 14 I got with a boy 2 years older who my dad instantly disliked, so much so my dad had a restraining order placed on him to not come near me. I got pregnant by this guy at 15 and that's when the abuse started with kicking me down the stairs whilst pregnant. I had chunks of my hair ripped out, was beaten daily, kicked, punched whilst also being isolated from my family and friends. He also cheated often but accused me of doing so despite my never being allowed out without him. I managed to escape at age 19 after he beat me badly that I had to be put in an induced coma and I still remember when it struck midnight on new years crying in my best friends arms at our local pub from the relief of a new year, new chapter as he held me and ordered more champagne. That was 10 years ago now and I am grateful for my friends and family and love my dad for doing everything he tried to protect me even though I was a rebellious teen girl who thought she knew better. I will always now fight for anyone who is in any sort of abusive relationship, if it's 2am and someone calls me that they need to escape now then I'm there to pick them up and get them to safety.
It breaks my heart that this young woman will never get to accomplish her life dreams all because of this sob and I agree with the judge and yourself that he will never be rehabilitated as all he has done since is not shown a single ounce of remorse and instead has continued to use violence and intimidation to get his own way. If one could meet karma then I hope it's him.
Thats sweet of you but you have a child to live for. You shouldn’t directly get involved. Look at the Adrein Payne story.
@@rckxs8724right! There was a story a couple of weeks ago where the friend of an abuse victim was murdered. This was AFTER he beat both of them (girlfriend and said friend) with a hammer! He was out on bail. I say the best thing to do is take you and your friend to a gun range!!!
My most abusive relationship was age 14-18. He used to come home from drinking with his mates and drag me out of bed in the middle of the night by my hair and accuse me of cheating with his friend. He would lie on purpose to try and catch me out, he controlled my money, told me where I could work, what I could wear. I thought it was normal at the time. I met him at age 31 again, and he was still the same b*stard as he had always been. I was so lucky to get away when I did. Luckily I had good friends at that time and they protected me when I wanted to leave him. Coming from an abusive upbringing I did not know any better, we lived together from a young age, we worked hard jobs, we were living a grown up life when we were teenagers. It's so messed up when I look back.
Thanks for another video Annie, you are truly now my favourite true crime youtuber 💜
This case really hits home...had to take a break throughout 😔 I feel so bad for the parents who did all the right things just like my parents did. No kids that age should have such an intense relationship like that. My boyfriend was not physically abusive but very very emotionally abusive & controlling. He committed suicide & was at my house banging on my door right before but I wouldn't let him in. I encourage any parent to go with your gut...your Son or Daughter may hate you for a little while but will thank you years later. At 16 after all that happened I went from smoking weed to using any drugs I could get just to numb the pain. I have 15yrs clean time now & my Husband who I met at 19 saved me in ways he'll never understand. Watch your kids & be there for them, listen & let them talk without judgement...I do that now with my 13yr old Son & he tells me everything good or bad. My heart goes out to this family 💜💜
So many people could’ve stopped this from happening. It’s truly so heartbreaking
How
Where was the football coach.
In the beginning, I also blame his parents, Omg his parents kicked him out at 14. We don’t have a right just because our kid is acting up to just kick them out and leave others to try and help the kid
I also believe the judge is wrong not to think the kid could have some kind of rehab
@@JanzZonewhat? He literally told 50 ppl he had a gun and wished she was dead
Love “your mom is always right” comment. My 16 year old daughter was listening with me. Perfect timing. Thanks 🙏
I wish I would have listened to my mom when I was 16! I would have saved myself so much trouble. 💜
@@GonkBoy66 same.
@@chloeg7353 I hope you’ve found peace and happiness. Sending you so much love and light! 💜✨
@@GonkBoy66 Thank you 💜 I'm working on it. I wish you the same.
@@GonkBoy66
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it makes me so mad that people will protect murders just because they’re friends and family. i love my family more than anything and they’re the most important people to me but i would call the cops in a second as soon as i knew they had likely murdered someone esp in a case where he murdered his young girlfriend just for trying to escape his abuse. i do feel sad that he had a rough upbringing but the way he acted this whole time is so much more than that. that poor sweet girl & her loved ones :( i can’t believe that he’d do this to people who did nothing but support him and give him second chances, it’s heartbreaking
Happy the judge read him!!! Lock up and throw away the key! He is a POS!!! Threw away his entire life bc he was so stubborn and wouldn’t listen and get help. I feel NO pity for him and even if he were 14, it wouldn’t change my thoughts or opinions.
I was on an abusive relationship at 16 and this case triggered tf outta me. He would hit me everywhere except my face. I still have pictures of the bruises. He was so controlling. I couldn’t wear shorts or dresses and wasn’t able to go to prom because of him. We would fall asleep on the phone for hours because he didn’t trust me out of his sight or earshot. His family knew he was abusive and did nothing and to this day get upset if I mention it on social media. When I told my mom what was going on, she was devastated. We were dirt poor due to my stepdads bad habits and abusive ways so my bf would give me money to buy food for the house or get my mom medicine so I stayed and endured it. I ended up getting pregnant at 18 and my mom was so sad. I wrestled if I wanted to keep it or not. We came up with a name and all. One day, he got upset because I talked to a male customer (I worked at a grocery store) and when we got home he drop kicked me in the belly. I made an appt for an abortion the next day. I do not regret it one bit. I knew if I had that baby, he would kill me because he would feel he owned me. After the abortion, I left for college even though he begged and begged me not to go to college. I found out he was cheating with a 13 year old and he was 21. I was so devastated and begged him to choose me. The manipulation in a abusive relationship is so crazy. Stockholm syndrome is real! Anyway, we broke up. I found out he would beat that young girl unconscious. Broke her nose and ribs, threw her downstairs and hit her in the face with a 2X4 once. I thank God I got out when I did. Young abusive relationships happen and are very difficult because it warps your idea on love too early. I was in therapy all through college and am fine now but it was a lot!! Prayers for her family and anyone else dealing with DV relationships. Leaving is easier said than done but you have no voice but to make it happen and leave. Or you will leave in a body bag 😢
At 16 where was your mother ?
@@liscatcat8756 I kept it hidden but she was around. When I did tell her, the gates of hell were opened.
Geez I’m so sorry you had to go through all that! And that poor 13 year old!! Where are the parents??!?
You were so smart not to follow through with your pregnancy. Be well.
Okay so one thing I want to say really quick is this. I have been in several abusive relationships I also constantly hear about cases like this. The Facetime calls are the start, they are one small step that seems sweet to alot of people but is a way of having control and eyes on them at all times. This needs to be recognized as another form of manipulation and controlling behavior 💯💯💯💯
When you said the parents allowed him back into the house so the kids could see each other outside of school, I face palmed myself. But then again I know how that goes as a teenage girl downplaying the bad things about a toxic partner and not letting your parents see that toxic side...ugh. Tragic all around.
True. But parents really need to be parents. That thing wouldn't have been allowed near my daughter regardless of if my daughter tried to manipulate me. Parents need to be parents.
@@AbsyntheAndTears oh I totally agree. I'm just thinking back to when I was a teen and how I know I didn't let my parents see the bad parts of my relationships. I only painted a good picture even tho some of those guys were total POS. It definitely sounds like his parents didn't try to control or guide their son either.
@@AbsyntheAndTears but, you only know the info this podcast gives, there’s much more information than just “letting him back in the house”
This story really hit home for me it is scary. I was severely abused by my high school boyfriend and he would constantly threaten to harm my family and himself when I was at college. He would sneak in my dorm building and get into my dorm and abuse me in every way. I definitely don’t see the abuse of minors against minors covered enough and I thank you for covering this tragic story.
I listened to this with my husband and all we could think about was our daughter. I pray for all of our daughters.
There's so many men out there like this.
I've listened to so many true crime stories that never really bother me but this one is absolutely terrifying.
And there are so many women like this too
Well if she has morals and decency she will be safe it lay in your house hold
Depending on her age it might be worth showing her the video so she can see the signs
@@moomyssweetieyou’re right , but it’s definitely not as common. So in reality having a daughter is 10x scarier than having a boy, and the fact that you and all these other (what I’m assuming are men) are trying to compete, seriously grow up.
That judge is fantastic. She said everything we all were thinking.
It blows my mind how many people in this case where like 'Well, it's none of my business that he has a gun and is stalking her'. We as people need to do better. The judge was amazing in this case.
Scary that someone can be that controlling at 16. Love your channel. I watch around five other true crime channels and yours is becoming my favorite.
she is definitely at the top of the list for me
Yes! I just found her a couple days ago!!
I agree with you. Anna Elise and Christina Randall are my 2favorites by far.
I always love to hear other peoples reccomendations, any other female trimester channels you like? (It doesn’t have to be female but similar to 10 to Life).
Yes agreed! I also love watching Stephanie Harlowe on Crime Weekly with Derek whom is a PI and use to be a detective, they doing AMAZINGG deep dives.
When I was 14 I was dating another 14 year old and it was the most abusive relationship ever, and he had incredibly horrifying sexual interests. I think I just happen upon someone with sociopathic personality. When it comes with that sort of thing, it would grace all ages.
How terrifying, I'm glad you got out ok
Same here. But the next woman he dated ended up marrying him and they seem to be good together, at least online. So weird
Parents fault
This is absolutely frightening. My daughter is 15 and also named Kaylie. This world is absolutely crazy. Sending many thoughts to the family. Thanks for sharing Annie!
show her things like this , I make my son watch true crime stuff sometimes becasue it cant hurt to be aware of the red flags
@@StellaKnights !!!!
@@StellaKnights I actually am going to when she gets home from school today.
@@StellaKnights yesssss!!! I have 2 older kids, my son is 18, and daughter is 21, and I also have a 12 yr old daughter, and the 12 yr old has been a handful lately, much more of a handful, than her older siblings have ever been, even when they were her age. They both have tried talking to her, and getting on her about certain things she is doing, but nothing seems to get through to her. So I've been showing her some heartbreaking videos, of kids that are about her age, to show her why her siblings and I tell her the things we do, because it's a scary world out there. It seems to have worked cause she usually ends up in tears after watching the sadder cases, and she's def been tryin to change her behavior. They think they are invincible, so realizing that kids her age are not exempt from the ugly realities of the world we live in,, is a helpful reality check sometimes, specially this day and age.
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I cannot even begin to understand the absolute horror Kaylie and Stephanie endured that day, and for many months prior... as a mother, I'm not sure how I could live through what Stephanie survived that day.... unfathomable and heart shattering. What a strong woman. Rest peacefully 😞
This case is so heartbreaking . It is not fair that if u met with a crazy guy that your life is over. I mean woman are not safe at all, anything can happen . I'm getting paranoid of cases like this.
“dating yourself”? Having your Mom hand you the yellow home phone on a long ass cord cuz your first girlfriend called you is me dating myself.. Love your channel, wonderful occasional escape…maybe more than occasional. Thanks!
Love the phone cord comment 😂😂😂
I can sooooo relate!
Been there 👋
I was just telling some younger people recently, about the long cord. I would stretch it into the landing & shut the door for privacy.
So he got life! Finally a case where actual justice was served. I’ve seen so many lately where the sentence is a complete insult to the crime committed.
His statement to her parents is ridiculously and just goes to show what kind of person he is and how hat he has no intention of taking responsibility for anything. As far as his parents go, aside from kicking their teenage son out without a suitable place for him to live, the fact they did not notify police when they found out he had a gun is enraging. However it doesn’t surprise me seeing how many people he was able to get help from after he killed somebody!! And that the cops had trouble getting his friends and family to speak to them. That might be a sign as to why he didn’t have any respect for authority.
The constant phone calls by a 16-7 year old demanding to speak to the Ass't Principal? No way, he would be calling & I would be answering the phone with a not only no but hell no until both of us died from old age. The police would be called, as well. That's why people think they can get away with this bullshit.
Hi Annie, first I want to say a few words of many that I have regarding you. You are a phenomenal young woman. I respect you so much because of your ethics. Standards,morals,and truthful deep deep warmth and compassion for the victims of the crimes you typically bring to your show. I swear to God that I pray you never ever stop doing what you’re doing because it is another huge part of your show which in my opinion is one of the absolute best part. When you state that you’re doing this so the victims can have a voice in the crime that happened to them and at the end of your show you ask your viewers to stand up and do something, say something and make that call to CPA, Police, or and anyone that can help before the victim takes their last breath. I commend you for saying this before and after each one of your shows. Just keep doing it because it does take a village to raise a child and it is our human duty. So I can’t thank you enough for telling us out here that it is a matter between life and death.
As a mother of seven adult children and a grandmother of six it literally breaks my heart to see through your shows and the news of how many precious precious innocent children are dying the horrific things that they die from at the hands of family or some evil stranger. Personally with the rate of children dying from the torture their own mothers put them through I no longer believe that it is an insane act of murder, I call it straight up biblical evil and no not like some Hollywood version of evil, I’m talked about biblical evil ( evil as in Andrea Yates case ) I mean when a mother gets up the nerve to drown ONE of her children and then does it over and over till her oldest so who runs and tries to hide, that takes evil. I am sixty five years old and while raising my children plus having their friends at my house most of the time I feel that I raised half our neighborhood so I’ve seen a lot over the years. Annie PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE never stop doing what you do and just an idea here, maybe you could give a bit more on the subject of how very very important it is that we must take action when we see something or hear something. You are doing everything right and better than most of these UA-cam crime podcasts. Please talk more about Child Protective Services. I swear that I do my best in bringing attention to our most innocent children. My own sons and daughters are law enforcement at levels of local police, and federal agents and their husbands and wives. I also have a daughter who is RN and she sees victims of all kind mr of horror and she comes home now and then I st to talk about it. Same thing with my law enforcement children. They are always bringing up the attention Child Protection Services
are overwhelmed with so many cases. This is 2023 we blow more money on things that we don’t need than the things we really really need. I mean why don’t we offer incentives for people who may want to become social workers?? I mean give these students some major low cost loans and other incentives. I mean it would be cheaper for the state than all the law suits victims bring about. So I know I’ve wrote a book here, but I am passionate about this topic. Thank you Annie!! You never know what lives your show may have saved just because you tell your viewers to stand up and say something.
Respectfully yours
Teresa Chahine
Love your videos- you’re so talented when it comes to telling the information and I admire how sympathetic you are to the victims and their families.
At the end of this story though, you’re judgmental harshness for Matrice’s family seemed very unwarranted. You portrayed them as parents that weren’t neglectful to him- but clearly they weren’t and they had just had enough of him. How much help is out there for a 16 year old that doesn’t want help? You said “why didn’t they send him to military camp or something?” First, sending a child off to behavioral camp is not a viable option. My husband and I sent my daughter to one in Utah, the cost was $50k for 6 months, and the options are very slim due to abuse in the past from these centers. And also, there are no grants or government programs to pay or subsidize any if it. In this case, it seems like all parties involved did their part to prevent this type of occurrence, but I strongly believe that if 1 person really believed that this would’ve actually happened, the outcome would be different. It’s so easy to judge when hindsight is 20/20. - My heart truly aches for Kailey’s family, friends and Matrice’s family and friends.
Hearing this story has brought back so many memories for me. I had a very similar relationship in high school. I was stalked. We had to change our home number 3 times. He took me to a desert one time and pulled a gun on me. He even told me he would commit suicide if I didn’t take him back. . I didn’t realize how toxic and scary it was as a teenager. Poor sweet girl.🙏🏽
I'm sorry to hear you had to endure that. I can't imagine having to live through something that traumatic. My ex stalked me for years after we broke up. Now with hindsight I know how wrong it truly was. Hope you're happy, healthy and doing well. Best wishes!
I completely did that in high school as well! Me and my boyfriend would talk all night we would have the phone on but we wouldn't talk and we would fall asleep together LOL we were such dorks when we were in high school lol
I’ve done that with a couple people lol as young adults too
I wish the schools efforts were more effective, but it is at least nice to see them not turn a blind eye. The NFL is now full of these men that have been put on pedestals since high school, and have no consequences for their abusive behaviour. I just wish it turned out differently
It sounds like the school did handle things correctly for her to the extent that they could.
Wym?? This school did more than any other school I've heard of. They did everything within their legal capability.
@@vexu7366 im not sure where you are confused. I said I wish their efforts were more effective. Which means, I wish their efforts had worked. I was specifically complimenting the school on doing something rather than most. 👌
My opinion is his parents should've been held some what accountable for his actions. If his Dad knew that he was riding a bike around the neighborhood with a gun, then he should've contacted the police dept and let them know about it. And let them know that his son had some anger issues towards this young girl. That probably would've helped out quite a bit. I don't think switching schools would have mattered unless her parents were going to move out of the area all together. He was expelled from the school they attended together, so he just started riding the bike by her house so she would feel threatened. Being in an abusive case like she was is a horrible situation. I've been in a couple and I know what it feels like and they're hard to get out of. I'm was very blessed and eventually got out of mine. This young lady wasn't as fortunate as I was. RIH KAYLIE!! Prayers going out to her entire family and all of her friends. GOD BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU!!!!
"Just me dating myself again" love it 😂 i can so relate oh the good ol days!
So so so sad. She was so young and beautiful and had her whole life ahead of her. The biggest slap in the face is how much they did for Martice, the trust they had in him and how they opened up their home and their hearts to him.
The judges words made me cry. She really understood the wider impact of Kaylie’s death upon her family in the long term.
His letter that was read to the court was a fucking joke! That poor woman (who I'm assuming is a lawyer) who had to read it out loud must have felt so stupid reading his words. If I were his lawyer, I'd tell him to read it himself or it's not getting read. And the fact that he couldn't even man up to read it... What a coward!
LOVE the judge!! We should have more courageous judges like that!!!!!
Somtimes teens leave home because of how toxic parents are especially if they're on drugs or have mental health issues.
When I was 15 I dated someone just like this. He was 21 actually. He always cheated and was very abusive. We dated 3 years. He dislocated my jaw jumped on my head the list goes on. But one day he went to cheat and was car racing. He unfortunately passed away, at the time I was devasted but looking back now i realize it probably saved my life because it was probably only time before he tried to kill me
Colored guy, right?
@@jaredreichard889 excuse me?
Why did you say he "unfortunately" passed away? That wasn't unfortunate. Good riddance to him. One less dirtbag in this world.
@@jaredreichard889 why do you keep commenting that? what the heck is your problem?
@@jaredreichard889 - In high school, only the white men in the military preyed on myself and classmates.
There should be awareness and education for children/teens about telling an adult or authorities when someone they know is threatening to kill someone. I hear so often listening to these cases that the perpetrator was telling a friend or relative that were going to kill someone and everytime the friend thought they were joking or wouldn't actually do it. So many lives may have been saved if someone would've just reported it.
Absolutely
I had a friend in middle school who sent me a death threat over MySpace. Her niece (our age) sent me one, too. I immediately told my mom, who called the cops on my friend. Her niece messaged me shortly after begging me not to call the cops on her, as well. Nothing ever ended up happening, but we stopped being friends.
I sure hope people don’t start reporting every time a kid said “I’m gonna kill you” or my 12 year old daughter is screwed LOL
No one should be allowed to destroy someone else's life like he did Kaley. Even with a protective order it really does nothing. He wouldn't have cared about a piece of paper. It's ridiculous. We need to change our laws when it comes to dv and stalking.
Let me tell ya little miss your are an absolutely a very wise person. Some people don't think before they act. Martice is a narcissist who thinks if noone but himself, he's a cruel horrible person who would do anything to get he wants. You are a beautiful intelligent and loving woman. Keep doing what your doing you should think about writing a book about your first you done your first UTUBE crime video. It would be very interesting. Like always, love sharon white
Wish the judicial system had this energy and enthusiasm for every murder case. This family got every single lick of their justice. This is how families should be treated and victims honored.
I remember hearing about this. By you bringing awareness to this, my hope is that parents share it with their children. If it saves just 1 life it is well worth it.
I'm 55yrs old and I will never forget an incident that happened at my HS. My good friend was dating a guy ( whom didn't attend our school). She broke up with him ( after several attempt's). One night he went to our school and busted out the window to the office. He spray painted the walls " tell _______ ______ I love her". ( He wrote her name).
Then he took his sawed off shotgun and shot himself. In the morning his dead body was found. This was a horrible nightmare.
He had threatened he would kill himself as well as her many times. So she kept taking him back. It was his plan to kill her as well that night, but his plan didn't pan out. He had begged her to meet him at the school and she refused.
Thank God your friend listened to her intuition. Thank you for sharing. ❤️
@@kristalkempf7800 absolutely.
To bad this evil kid did not do the same.
Wow that's a horrible situation and I'm so happy your friend refused to meet him. I hope she is ok now and doesnt think about it at all.
That’s honestly frightening To hear that boy sounds like a mental crazy dude! Glad your friend it okay
Its scary how common stuff like this has become, im so glad i don't have a daughter that is a teenager now days, i would loose my mind with all the crap they have to deal with.
The fucking nerve to make a statement that you're innocent when the mother SAW you kill her daughter and shoot her too..
I feel bad for Martice in that no child should be homeless and sleeping in the streets because their parents kicked them out. If you don't want your children, go to the state and sign away your parental rights and let them go into foster care so they at least have a bed to sleep in and food to eat. Wondering if they received any state or government benefits for him while he was sleeping in the streets? That's as far as my sympathy goes for him though. Would he have not killed her if his parents had actually been freaking parents to him? I want to think not, but, who knows. Would like to know if he was diagnosed as a sociopath or psychopath though..
"If you’re a teenage girl, I don’t know why you’re watching my videos if you’re young" hi Annie! Im an 18 year old girl and I love your content so much! I watch almost every upload, I love your personality and the way you cover such horrible cases
Wow! The statement he wrote that his lawyer read was something else. The judge 100% got his sentence right, that boy is beyond rehabilitation & clearly a sociopath.
I was 18 when a 35 year old man inserted himself into my life. He whisked me away and cut off contact with my family. He hid my birth control and drugged me to get me pregnant. I got back in contact with my mother and she sent my dad to come get me. I spent 5 months in HELL. drugs, drinking, he tried to pump me out, and even had me traffick drugs for his mom. I got home and put a restraining order on him immediately. I chose adoption for my baby. The internet is such a scary place. It's been 12 years since this traumatic time in my life, and I will NEVER allow my children on the internet.
So glad you’re okay! ❤️ sending all the love and prayers to you
What about when they have to start doing online projects around middle school and even elementary
Colored guy, right?
Keeping kids totally away from the Internet, will only make them more secretive and do it behind your back, make better choices
@@bbyjscx not true... if you raise your kids right... happy children, with both biological parents in one home, who love and respect their parents, don't dishonor them by disobeying their well intended wishes. My brother and sister-in-law are very strict with my neices and they turned out great. You just have to be a devoted parent who invests in your children. Parents like that don't have to worry about their kids sneaking behind their backs and if they do they know about it quick! Bc they are involved in their children's upbringing...
That judge is incredible! What a speech.
God bless you, Kaylie. I will be praying for your family, especially your mother ♡
An order of protection wouldn't help. He could shoot her from across the street. Switching schools wouldn't help. He shot her at home, not at school. Putting him in military school wouldn't help. He could shoot her before he left for military school or when he came home to visit. Calling CPS wouldn't help. They can't watch him 24/7, nor can parents. My parents were wonderful, loving role models, providers, disciplinarians. They were literally great parents, but I STILL drank and smoked pot and partied at 15, 16, 17, even though I knew I wasn't supposed to. My parents thought I was just out with friends. It's possible moving far, far away would've helped, but maybe not. People this messed up will always find a way to get to their victims. I do however think he was messed up because of his home life, so his parents did fail him in that regard. He will only get more violent in prison, so he's where he needs to be for life.
As a mom of 2 teenager daughters this is terrifying. My oldest who is almost 16 was in a relationship that was getting toxic. Thank God she broke it off with him but he still tried to contact me, her and ny other daughter through social media. We have blocked him and I threatened to get a restraining order of he ever tries to contact any of us again. I hope he takes head to my threat because I was very serious and I will do it of need be. I'm so sorry to this girl and her family. I couldn't imagine. R i.p sweet girl.
Every parent should make their teenagers watch this video. You are solid girl, thanks for the awareness
Yeah they should show this in schools!
I’m a domestic violence advocate and wanted to say thank you for covering this case. Any info that can get out there to our young people about warning signs and ways to get help is so important ❤️
What a heartbreaking story. There really needs to be more help for troubled teens. Military school is crazy expensive. I'm sure in their eyes, they were teaching him a lesson and he'd wake up and come home. But when he was circling her house with a gun, that's the time to call the cops and have him arrested.
We've got to stop raising these entitled kids & quit giving everything they want & demand!
I made that mistake & now that they're all grown & I'm disabled & can't be at their beck & call they can't stand me, even though I've been a free babysitter, paid their rent & car notes or insurance on several occasions, etc. now I'm the worst mother in the world.
Even though I miss them, I can't stand their verbal abuse & disrespect anymore. 😢😢
I have a cousin in that situation. Both her kids turned out to be uncaring sociopaths. It's horrible.
I'm sorry. Kids are horrible these days.
Yep.. Both of mine are wicked liers and manipulators who play games with me, I DNT have anything to do with them at all...all the x Family are nuts..what happens in the dark will come out to the light no one can mock Jeh God and be blessed..
Wondering why teachers/admin/adults didn’t intervene and call CPS when they knew his parents weren’t allowing him to stay at home and couch surf? He was a product of his environment. What a tragic story.
But why in a his case is a 16 year old kid treated as an adult but the 20 year old “ man nd woman “ that tormented Byron Smith weren’t held accountable for what they did and what they did numerous times not only to him but others the man’s cars was full of other stolen items. Byron shot them for breaking into his house while he was home and he was sent to prison because of they say they were just kids who didn’t realize their actions or the possible consequences of those actions
I had a really abusive BF in HS. He stuck gum in my hair in a class we shared. He would rip up my clothes that he thought was “sexy”. The icing on the cake was when he came to my job at the time at the mall and attacked me. Luckily customer saw and security came and got him out. He was controlling and abusive I’m so glad I got out of that terrible relationship.
Colored guy, right?
@@jaredreichard889 no, turns out ass-holes come in all colors 🙄
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@@jaredreichard889 umm not always every human has the ability to become abusive
@@jaredreichard889not sure why that matters but all right-
Hey Annie I love your content! You should cover Debanhi Escobar’s suspicious death. She’s an 18 year old Mexican women who was discovered in the cistern of a motel in Nuevo León, Mexico. Many like my self believe this is a case of femicide, which has been a crisis in Mexico for several year now. I think it would be an important issue to bring awareness to since many do not know about the femicide crisis in Mexico/ Latin America.
Having a 15 year old daughter i remember being so focused on this whole trial it had me shook especially because i was too abused by my boyfriend at 16 years old and I'll be damned if i let my daughter go through that. Watching Kaylee mom talk about the moment he came in and killed her baby girl broke my heart and the fact he was man enough to kill her but still wouldn't confess and take responsibility for his actions it made it worse.
This happened in my hometown, and shook us ALL to the core. I don't think anyone will ever make sense of it, and how that poor girls life was just taken so young and so stupidly, prayers to the Juga fam.
His parents are definitely responsible in this tragedy.. they put their 15 year old out on the streets they knew he was stalking her w a gun... but mainly for putting him out that is child abuse no child should be homeless is their parents have a home.