Dude, that second guy was maddening. It’s hard to watch some of these, but I power through. Avery must be filled with the spirit, because I couldn’t do it.
I agree, I would want to pull my hair out dealing with people who won't listen. I don't agree with Avery on everything, but he does have patients beyond mine. lol
@@kennyjohnson8479won’t * and patience * it’s critical in obtaining patience to know the context in which your intention is shared. It helps realize others aren’t where you are so you give grace and correction. ❤
Dr zakir!- what an arrogant vain individual, They can't defend the undefendable,,,, Shouting doesn't prove a point,, Repeating only insults intelligence, Sadly I believe they can't be saved,, they don't reason, ,,, they have a lot of money and power to lose, They are not humble. 🙏❤️ That we are chosen,
@ he can pray on his time to his demon god, not my time. Dont accept a fair when you have stuff to do. Its like accepting a fair and then going off to get guess. It’s rude
Listening to the first caller Abdool just gave me a headache. The demonic dishonesty and stupidity of this cult is maddening!!!! Thank The Lord for Avery for exposing the hypocrisy, double standards, and fraudulent religion that is Islam. Christ is King 👑🕊✝️☦️
@@Listenandchillzz God is one Lord and that is the Father , Jesus is son of God who is not 3 "persons" , pagan ideas from pagan cultures . Not indicated God is 3 ANYWHERE. "My God and your God " those were Jesus own words John 20:17
Read 1 Corinthians 8:6. Read the Bible in totality then come back. You just said the Father is one Lord, but the verse I just gave you says the one Lord is Jesus 🤔. Reconcile that with your beliefs. @@dazzadizzy5308
It's does but you're not reading he context. 😂😂😂what's the context? And even if it was, you're reading it wrong. If you didn't read it wrong, then you didn't read the Hadith/tafsirs, if you did read the Hadith/tafsirs then you donthave an open mind, if you do have an open mind then your an islamaphobe.
It's like they don't believe the words they see in front of their face they give it different definitions. It's because they don't actually read their own book they just recite things their favorite online teacher tells them
@@jonathansoko1085 We know that sociality defines humanness, and that organized group processes are everywhere. Islam and other religions, warfare, sports, economies, are such examples.
Man ! I love this brotha right here! It’s so refreshing to see such intelligence and scriptural integrity used to defend the faith. And to witness it done with what the word says, not someone’s own interpretation or personal feelings interwoven into scripture
seems this is just a matter of perspectives with both believing the same thing at the same time... just viewed from different understandings. its all one God, jut how to explain how God entered his creation as a person
@@Matthew-cp2egNo God existed as three persons before he became Jesus In Genesis we read the holy spirit and we get a distinction from God and in the same Genesis God's word moves and walks So we gave God the father the spirit and the word which is the son all in the first two chapters of Genesis Jesus always distinguishes himself from the father despite them being one the father was always in heaven and the spirit desended down
@@Matthew-cp2eg There's no perspective if you say Jesus and God the father are the same person than your wrong Jesus as the son is the image of God through which God created the universe Hebrews 1:4
@orpheemulemo8053 you just explained why its a oneness. "Jesus as the son is the IMAGE of God through which God Created the universe" and thats why it is a matter of perspectives as that IMAGE is just another placeholder for God manifesting in the world. For example, Moses saw three versions of God 1 burning bush, 2 pillar from heaven, 3 from a cleft as he walked by. so are these also the son? no, why? Yet why is Jesus called the son of God though? Because he created a human being to reside inside of with his Spirit. its still a trinity because we separate these things in our mind, but with God why wouldnt his spirit, his physical form and heavenly form are but one.
@@Matthew-cp2eg Oneness individuals believe that Jesus is the Father in the flesh. That's not just a different perspective; it's a completely different doctrine from what the Bible teaches.
"The Father is the only true God" "I and the Father are one" "They wanted him killed because he called God his father, making Himself equal to God" This is the most obvious cosmic side-eye Jesus could have done. He is saying the Father is the only true God, in the same breath called himself the Son of God, making Himself equal to God. So if the Father is the only true God, so is the Son. I could totally see Jesus looking at the disciples like "so who am I really, guys?"
@@AmAxel35 so “God the son is equal with God the father? God is equal with God? God is his father , means the spirit of the one God caused conception in the womb of Mary . It’s not 2 divine persons
@ghsense2626 Yes, because the Old Testament should be interpreted against the light of the New Testament. Once you do, you see Jesus all over it, through it, and in it. Do you believe in the New Testament?
@@ghsense2626 Except the Hebrew that says God is "one" is the same used to say that the two shall become "one" flesh in marriage. There is a different Hebrew word for singular. Read Daniel 7. The one like a Son of Man (hence Jesus calling Himself this) is presented to the Ancient of Days, and is rendered reverent service using a term for service that refers to service ONLY given to God. YHWH on earth in Genesis either 19 or 20 (I can't remember which chapter) calls down fire from YHWH out of heaven. There are multiple other references such as this.
This Oneness character has to keep changing the context to suit his twisted narrative. Poor thing, it must be hard work constantly having to rewrite the Bible so as to fit his personal ideology. May he encounter the Truth. I have to credit Avery- he has a saintly patience.
They always avoid answering the simple questions because they have no simple answers, so they have to make something up that suits islam. They only see what they want to see but have no proof to back up what they say.
this SAME guy comes with different names, dont know if Avery notices and chooses to ignore he is the same guy as motor mouth, mohammed and so many random name he comes up with
Yea the motor mouth guy. Jesus says "I am in the Father and the Father is in me." "If you have seen Me, you have seen the Father. And from now on you know Him, and have seen Him". They're the same being. Just different persons.
I love when these smug people spout some well trodded objection as if they just came up with it ... and not like Christians have been answering that same objection for thousands of years.
Yachid is oneness that does not tolerate plurality,however echad is one but has a unity in deeper sense. So my to oneness doctrine followers why God did not use the word yachid if he is one without unity.
The Father can correctly be identified as the only true God; the issue for Muslims (and others) is that, within the Trinitarian framework, this does not preclude the Son nor the Spirit from also being identified as the same only true God. To argue otherwise is to not understand the Trinity as it has been historically presented, where each member of the Trinity is fully God, not a component of God nor a separate God.
The Biblical Godhead is fully manifested in Jesus the Christ. Colossians 2:9 From what we can apprehend from the Bible; the scriptures clearly seem to suggest that the Godhead is Triune. Man calls it Trinity; I just stick to calling it what the Bible calls it. The Godhead.
Boy, UA-cam was the worst thing that could’ve ever happened or Islam and Oneness King James folks…. Holy cow thank you for letting us know how absurd your oneness doctrine is. Ridiculous trying to get web”context” to explain something that specifically says what it says. The “context card” is getting used too much lately when people don’t even understand what context is especially that guy who was the last caller. Good grief
When you worship a god who is limited in power, how can you grasp that a very powerful God can be in any form, any place, and commune in all His form in oneness simply because He can because He has the power to?
4:38 I think Avery is referring to Jesus calling the father as only True God as there is a lot of humans considering a true God in their own sense. Jesus by the way is speaking as if he is a human in nature in that point
but Christ is praying to the Father explaining what eternal life is… “that they may know You the Only True God, and Jesus the Christ whom You have sent”
I John 1:1-2 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched-this we proclaim concerning the Word of life. 2 The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to us
Oneness doesn’t even make sense. Jesus is sooo clear about who he is and why he came, that you have to be willfully blind. That kind of blindness is better described as pride. It’s much worse than ignorance
The 2nd guy is a perfect example of what Muslims think the Trinity is. ..... that's when the questions come in : "If Jesus is God, was he praying to himself?" 😂
Where does it say that at? Christ is just explaining the way to eternal life after talking about the authority that the Father Gave Him “For you have given him authority over everyone. He gives eternal life to each one you have given him. And this is the way to have eternal life-to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth.” John 17:2-3
Surah 25:2 the One to whom belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, and who did neither have a son, nor is there any partner to him in the Kingdom, and who has created everything and designed it in a perfect measure.
@@salvation-isfree , oh wow! I misunderstood you completely! I thought that you were accusing AVERY of saying something so absurd! Please forgive me! You are quite right. I didn't really pay attention to the last 2 minutes of this video. Avery's opponents are so tiresome.
The Muslim would have had an argument if Jesus said in John 17:3 that the father alone is the only true God. However, Jesus is recognizing the person of the father as the only true God without excluding himself or the Holy Spirit from being true God as well. We believe that the father is the only true God because there are no other gods, the same we would affirm that the person of the son and the Holy Spirit is also the only true God along with the person of the father. The word only modifies true God it does not modify "you" as Avery pointed out multiple times. Also, in Hebrews the person of the father also recognizes the Son as being God as well. So just as the son would recognize the deity of the father so does the father recognize the deity of the son likewise. So according to the unitarian heretic God created the worlds through the flesh (who is not God) that means that matter existed before there was matter and God created matter through matter. This is not biblical, and it also goes against science as well. The guy is a pagan. Genesis is clear that God created the heavens and the earth in the beginning. It does not say that God created matter and then by means he created the heaven and the earth through that matter.
The verse the LORD says to my Lord contains two different Hebrew words for “lord” in the original. The first word is Yahweh, the Hebrew covenant name for God. The second is adoni, meaning “lord” or “master.”
The Oneness guy has to go read the book of John so he can see the following scriptures in print. In the beginning there was the Word. The Word was with God and the Word was God. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
@kevinwilliams8033 Why are you replacing the term "God". Even if you did it would not make less since. For example if you replaced it with the word "King" it would sound exactly the same. Also the key term hear is "The Word". Replace the term "The Word" with the name "Jesus", then suddenly what Jesus is starts to become crystal clear.
What bible are supposed to read from KJV (80 books)? Standard Version Catholic Edition(73 books)? EHV? New World Translation of the Scriptures (66books)? It's decieving to start debating if you don't agree and establish that the source of your faith is actually coming from the divine. Those books above are all christian Bibles.
Any Bible you buy it same message! We focus on the message not textual variant! Some of the Bible have certain stuffs like maps etc that changes the pages not the message.
@@salty-tomato great question! Are you referring to the version? If yes, there is one original text and there are the same in every different translation. Every Quran that you come across has the original text included then the translation on the side. In addition they are millions of human across the world, from different race, social class, that have memorized the original text from the first letter to the last comma hence making it virtually impossible to modify or destroy it. That's the Genius of god!
Wow so Jesus is the father , sit at right hand means , power. Then Jesus is a sprit 😅 and we are ideas and sent from heaven. How can you read simple English and just make what you want from it . The bible isn't a Shakespeare poem . I understand some may need to be broke down but the bible is pretty straight forward. 😅😅 may lord Jesus bless everyone
@@petrospetroupetrou9653 ok yes the Spirit of God is mentioned in Genesis but where does the concept of the doctrine of the Trinity come up in Genesis? where in that book does it indicate that there are 3 persons sharing the same “essence”?
That second guy..his first question is how you show how disingenuous and bad faith you're from the beginning.. Lets start off by assuming you're wrong..than try and prove you're right...but Avery delt with it well
I’m not Oneness but the First Guy had a good point… “the Only True God” this phrase doesn’t mean that the Father is the Only God but rather that He is the “Only True God” there are other people/entities reffered to as “god” throughout the bible but there is “Only One True God” and according to Christ knowing the only True God and Christ (the One whom the Only True God sent) is the Way to Eternal Life… the Father is the One who gave Christ authority to do everything that He did… the Father gave the Son Sovereign power (Daniel 7) and gave the Son the authority to forgive sins (which the Son also gave to his disciples) Christ is the exact image/representation of the Father… if the trinity is true, why can’t we reverse the phrase above? and say that the Father is the exact representation/image of Christ?
We were ideas of god that were sent down and Jesus was up then down and north south east almost west but then went east before north and so God was the son when the father went south on the right. My brain simply malfunctioned.
Avery these people don’t know what “modifies” means. Your problem is that you speak to these people line they are intelligent and understand basic reasoning. You frustrate yourself and audience when you presuppose that you are speaking with people who knows what modify means.
its does not mean "ONE" it means "united" cause al-lah are different pagan idols united: Lah, Lat, Hubal (Baal), Manat, Uzza and the other 360 !!! Idols wich are named on the kaaba, therefore they threw a carpet over it.
“I don’t care about your interpretation, I don’t care about my own. I only care about what the text says.” That is absolutely beautiful.
They have to not understand the argumement because if they understood it they wouldn't have an argument
10:21
Exactly! In the text GOD clearly says that He is ONE! By Himself, NO SAVIOR BESIDE HIM lol
The old testament does not mention 3 god. Change your way and become Muslim
@@ghsense2626 you’re right it doesn’t mention 3 gods so why change to Muslim?
Dude, that second guy was maddening. It’s hard to watch some of these, but I power through. Avery must be filled with the spirit, because I couldn’t do it.
I agree, I would want to pull my hair out dealing with people who won't listen. I don't agree with Avery on everything, but he does have patients beyond mine. lol
@@kennyjohnson8479won’t * and patience * it’s critical in obtaining patience to know the context in which your intention is shared. It helps realize others aren’t where you are so you give grace and correction. ❤
i seriously cant understand this oneness, israelite cult. they don't seem to understand words or how sentences work.
@@yaasupreme8080 I have plenty of grace for them. I just don't want to be the one having to argue/debate with someone constantly.
He was spewing some craziness.
Clipping his own heresy is crazy work!
Even his own arguments argue with themself 😅
Peace to my beloved B.A.S.I.C.s (brothers and sisters in CHRIST)
I like that 😎
@@savedbygrace314 dis is us bro..... we extremely basic.... we jus read mane.....😁
Real talk my bro
Basic-ally speaking same to you. 😅
@@FallenCloud. amen
Had a muslim uber driver who decided to pray right before my ride (annoying). He was listening to Dr zakir lol. Almost recommend GodLogic😂
Dr zakir!- what an arrogant vain individual,
They can't defend the undefendable,,,,
Shouting doesn't prove a point,,
Repeating only insults intelligence,
Sadly I believe they can't be saved,, they don't reason,
,,, they have a lot of money and power to lose,
They are not humble.
🙏❤️ That we are chosen,
I would’ve mentioned how God Logic would smoke them
Annoying for him to pray. I’m Muslim my eye Doctor is Christian and before he began my exam he prayed what’s the issue?
@ he can pray on his time to his demon god, not my time. Dont accept a fair when you have stuff to do. Its like accepting a fair and then going off to get guess. It’s rude
@@freddurstedgebono6029 you actually sound like the demon🤣
Listening to the first caller Abdool just gave me a headache. The demonic dishonesty and stupidity of this cult is maddening!!!! Thank The Lord for Avery for exposing the hypocrisy, double standards, and fraudulent religion that is Islam. Christ is King 👑🕊✝️☦️
the abdool thinks if you say the Only True God only means one person and referring to person. While Avery is highlighting Only True God
@@Listenandchillzz God is one Lord and that is the Father , Jesus is son of God who is not 3 "persons" , pagan ideas from pagan cultures . Not indicated God is 3 ANYWHERE. "My God and your God " those were Jesus own words John 20:17
@@dazzadizzy5308 abdool, dont misrepresent Christianity. You know what is pagan? it's worshipping,licking, praising nonsense blackstone.
@@dazzadizzy5308The only pagan idea is saying that God has two right hands and a chin, and that we should circle and kiss a black stone 😂
Read 1 Corinthians 8:6. Read the Bible in totality then come back. You just said the Father is one Lord, but the verse I just gave you says the one Lord is Jesus 🤔. Reconcile that with your beliefs. @@dazzadizzy5308
"get ready to clip this" 😂, karma is a .....
This gave me a good laugh, but also a bit of sadness. knowing that people like this who claim they know God but deny his word exist.
They disagree with the trinity.....Yet the quran refers to the WORD, the SPIRIT and ALLAH as separate entities.
Yes, when you read the Quran in the English version, it starts out as “WE” straight out the gate Allah refers to himself as plural.
It's does but you're not reading he context. 😂😂😂what's the context? And even if it was, you're reading it wrong. If you didn't read it wrong, then you didn't read the Hadith/tafsirs, if you did read the Hadith/tafsirs then you donthave an open mind, if you do have an open mind then your an islamaphobe.
It's like they don't believe the words they see in front of their face they give it different definitions. It's because they don't actually read their own book they just recite things their favorite online teacher tells them
@@jonathansoko1085 We know that sociality defines humanness, and that organized group processes are everywhere. Islam and other religions, warfare, sports, economies, are such examples.
That last dude is a heretic, I hope he finds the truth.
Man ! I love this brotha right here! It’s so refreshing to see such intelligence and scriptural integrity used to defend the faith. And to witness it done with what the word says, not someone’s own interpretation or personal feelings interwoven into scripture
That last dude dug himself a deep hole and buried himself in it. Lord have mercy 😂
I feel sorry for that Oneness guy because I used to be him. It's a very convoluted and damaging doctrine that takes a while to undo.
seems this is just a matter of perspectives with both believing the same thing at the same time... just viewed from different understandings.
its all one God, jut how to explain how God entered his creation as a person
@@Matthew-cp2egNo God existed as three persons before he became Jesus
In Genesis we read the holy spirit and we get a distinction from God and in the same Genesis God's word moves and walks
So we gave God the father the spirit and the word which is the son all in the first two chapters of Genesis
Jesus always distinguishes himself from the father despite them being one the father was always in heaven and the spirit desended down
@@Matthew-cp2eg There's no perspective if you say Jesus and God the father are the same person than your wrong Jesus as the son is the image of God through which God created the universe
Hebrews 1:4
@orpheemulemo8053 you just explained why its a oneness. "Jesus as the son is the IMAGE of God through which God Created the universe"
and thats why it is a matter of perspectives as that IMAGE is just another placeholder for God manifesting in the world.
For example, Moses saw three versions of God 1 burning bush, 2 pillar from heaven, 3 from a cleft as he walked by.
so are these also the son? no, why? Yet why is Jesus called the son of God though? Because he created a human being to reside inside of with his Spirit.
its still a trinity because we separate these things in our mind, but with God why wouldnt his spirit, his physical form and heavenly form are but one.
@@Matthew-cp2eg Oneness individuals believe that Jesus is the Father in the flesh. That's not just a different perspective; it's a completely different doctrine from what the Bible teaches.
"The Father is the only true God"
"I and the Father are one"
"They wanted him killed because he called God his father, making Himself equal to God"
This is the most obvious cosmic side-eye Jesus could have done. He is saying the Father is the only true God, in the same breath called himself the Son of God, making Himself equal to God. So if the Father is the only true God, so is the Son. I could totally see Jesus looking at the disciples like "so who am I really, guys?"
@@AmAxel35 so “God the son is equal with God the father? God is equal with God? God is his father , means the spirit of the one God caused conception in the womb of Mary . It’s not 2 divine persons
Bro 15:30-15:45 kills me, these Oneness bots going through hoops to deny the Trinity
Old testament does not mention 3 god in one. No mention of Jesus being a God
@ghsense2626 Yes, because the Old Testament should be interpreted against the light of the New Testament. Once you do, you see Jesus all over it, through it, and in it. Do you believe in the New Testament?
@@ghsense2626 Except the Hebrew that says God is "one" is the same used to say that the two shall become "one" flesh in marriage. There is a different Hebrew word for singular.
Read Daniel 7. The one like a Son of Man (hence Jesus calling Himself this) is presented to the Ancient of Days, and is rendered reverent service using a term for service that refers to service ONLY given to God. YHWH on earth in Genesis either 19 or 20 (I can't remember which chapter) calls down fire from YHWH out of heaven. There are multiple other references such as this.
@@Ascendxnce Yes and in the old testament, Yahweh is Jesus
@AjosejaGame Amen my friend. This is the testimony of Scripture
If the second guy is not trolling, he is truly blowing my mind
This Oneness character has to keep changing the context to suit his twisted narrative. Poor thing, it must be hard work constantly having to rewrite the Bible so as to fit his personal ideology. May he encounter the Truth. I have to credit Avery- he has a saintly patience.
The first guy was flat out dumb tbh 😂😂😂😂
The second caller is just making things up at this point.
It’s amazingly ridiculous when people come up stage with half education to challenge the Trinity.
Half knowledge is DANGEROUS
The Trinity concept of three hypostases one God is tritheism in a way, either that or at worst, a contradiction.
@@AjosejaGameSo God has to be limited by your logic?
@@Mr_Gato02 I’m no muslim or Unitarian
Half knowledge is what their leaders want them to be otherwise they leave.
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He knows Father, Son, and Spirit are believed to be the same God, but he can't accept that and thinks proving different persons proves multiple gods.
Why is there a Father and son in one God , what makes them Father and son?
@dazzadizzy5308 If you know that God is infinite and transcendent, why do you expect him to be like you?
@@divadrelffehsThank you!
That oneness dude. Avery you DESTROYED his arguments using scripture masterfully. It was a joy to behold. So good I had to listen to it twice.
"divers manners"
The Mandela Effect
They always avoid answering the simple questions because they have no simple answers, so they have to make something up that suits islam. They only see what they want to see but have no proof to back up what they say.
This is how cross referencing get people into trouble. The oneness guy tried to go to other scriptures to justify his claim.
Well done, chef!
Just to clarify... I have brougth MANY of my former atheist friends to Jesus, by showing them your videos... God bless you brother 💝
this SAME guy comes with different names, dont know if Avery notices and chooses to ignore
he is the same guy as motor mouth, mohammed and so many random name he comes up with
Yea the motor mouth guy.
Jesus says "I am in the Father and the Father is in me." "If you have seen Me, you have seen the Father. And from now on you know Him, and have seen Him".
They're the same being. Just different persons.
How can they be the same but different persons thats stupid @MChristianMan
@matthewlaws7134 same essence.
1 being exists in 3 persons. Are you limiting what God can do, and calling it stupid at the same time???
The second guy is really deceived. The mental blockage is massive.
I love when these smug people spout some well trodded objection as if they just came up with it ... and not like Christians have been answering that same objection for thousands of years.
Not only do they say stupid things alike they also sound alike.
Thats how u know its an evil spirit working in them, my brother sounds the same way smh
What????? Wow how people tear up the bible wow you have so much patience god bless you Avery
Avery logic jst mocking Jesus Avery logic is just embarrassing himself
You need help! @@ShireenMorris-wx7wf
Oneness holy faith?! 🤭🤣
Man . Lord have mercy on us all
Not only do they malfunction they act like they are making sense and that you are the one with the issue.
The fact that he says at the end that you are delusional made me laugh.
Yachid is oneness that does not tolerate plurality,however echad is one but has a unity in deeper sense. So my to oneness doctrine followers why God did not use the word yachid if he is one without unity.
Exactly. I have pointed this out many times.
God bless you Avrey❤
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The Father can correctly be identified as the only true God; the issue for Muslims (and others) is that, within the Trinitarian framework, this does not preclude the Son nor the Spirit from also being identified as the same only true God. To argue otherwise is to not understand the Trinity as it has been historically presented, where each member of the Trinity is fully God, not a component of God nor a separate God.
The muslims should try asking so many questions about islam. BUT THEY WILL NOT AND DARE NOT.
Because questioning Islam is forbidden.
20:03 bro he sound so scary 😂😂😂😂 He thinks hes winning 😂😂😂.
I believe in the oneness of God. All praise to him!
I John 3:1 See what great love the Father has lavished on us, that we should be called children of God! And that is what we are!
This argument from the opposition is 1+1+1=1
How does the oneness believer deal with there being two Yahweh in the Old testament?
Jesus said *I am* from above not himself 😅....
🤣🤣🤣yes logic, i appreciate when you say; “ get out of here”🤣🤣🤣👍
The Biblical Godhead is fully manifested in Jesus the Christ. Colossians 2:9
From what we can apprehend from the Bible; the scriptures clearly seem to suggest that the Godhead is Triune. Man calls it Trinity; I just stick to calling it what the Bible calls it. The Godhead.
the Abduls are crumbling, GodLogic just cooking up and is about to cook up this Abdul again 😂😂😂
So the first caller starting arguing against his own point? I got 🤔 confused
I clipped the part he said the son is the flesh 😂
Boy, UA-cam was the worst thing that could’ve ever happened or Islam and Oneness King James folks…. Holy cow thank you for letting us know how absurd your oneness doctrine is. Ridiculous trying to get web”context” to explain something that specifically says what it says. The “context card” is getting used too much lately when people don’t even understand what context is especially that guy who was the last caller. Good grief
What's that second guy's religion? I thought it was Hebrew Israelite since they always go to Daniel.
How do you have the patience to interact with these people
That last guy got me cracking me up 😂😂😂😂 15:35
When you worship a god who is limited in power, how can you grasp that a very powerful God can be in any form, any place, and commune in all His form in oneness simply because He can because He has the power to?
The father can be the son if they are one. If they share the same divine nature and essence. If they are from the same divine source.
God created all things for His mission of salvation as the Son
“Yeah but” classic😂😂😂
Cookity cook cook cook!
Your patinece is beyond the pale, Avery. The stupid things your opponents say are frequently unbelievable. Love how you explained "only true God".
Amir mulfuntioned big time 😂
The second dude doesn't have any idea of what he believes
Jesus says “I pray for them here so they might know I am of you.” That’s why he prays to the father.
4:38 I think Avery is referring to Jesus calling the father as only True God as there is a lot of humans considering a true God in their own sense. Jesus by the way is speaking as if he is a human in nature in that point
but Christ is praying to the Father explaining what eternal life is…
“that they may know You the Only True God, and Jesus the Christ whom You have sent”
Bro thought he cooked when he said we worship 3 persons.
"And Jesus Christ, whom you have sent"
The word "and" is a conjunction word that means to include or attach.
I John 1:1-2 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked at and our hands have touched-this we proclaim concerning the Word of life. 2 The life appeared; we have seen it and testify to it, and we proclaim to you the eternal life, which was with the Father and has appeared to us
They’re not intelligent enough t G. Logic. Keep up the great work. Jesus is King
The second guy is so illogical it’s wild. Jesus who is God and spirit, manifested himself in flesh and created the world whaaaaaat!?
Oneness doesn’t even make sense. Jesus is sooo clear about who he is and why he came, that you have to be willfully blind. That kind of blindness is better described as pride. It’s much worse than ignorance
Why don't they ever want to talk about the Quran
The 2nd guy is a perfect example of what Muslims think the Trinity is. ..... that's when the questions come in : "If Jesus is God, was he praying to himself?" 😂
When he says "you are the only true God" he means there is only one true God compared to who others believe the true God is.
Where does it say that at?
Christ is just explaining the way to eternal life after talking about the authority that the Father Gave Him
“For you have given him authority over everyone. He gives eternal life to each one you have given him. And this is the way to have eternal life-to know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the one you sent to earth.”
John 17:2-3
Celebrating prematurely can cause you to be cooked even worse 😂
Surah 25:2
the One to whom belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, and who did neither have a son, nor is there any partner to him in the Kingdom, and who has created everything and designed it in a perfect measure.
Which live stream was this?
"God created the world through the flesh"🤦♂️🤦♂️What Bible that last guy read.
Wow!! flesh is divine now? 😂 🤦🏽♂️ we’re do people come up with this stuff 😂
Who said that?
@ watch the video. Dude said God created the universe thru the flesh. But then tried to back pedal out of it. You got to be crazy to think that. 😂
@@salvation-isfree , time stamp, please.
@@mysotiras21 starts at 24:42 and he clearly says yes at 24:51
@@salvation-isfree , oh wow! I misunderstood you completely! I thought that you were accusing AVERY of saying something so absurd! Please forgive me! You are quite right. I didn't really pay attention to the last 2 minutes of this video. Avery's opponents are so tiresome.
The Muslim would have had an argument if Jesus said in John 17:3 that the father alone is the only true God. However, Jesus is recognizing the person of the father as the only true God without excluding himself or the Holy Spirit from being true God as well. We believe that the father is the only true God because there are no other gods, the same we would affirm that the person of the son and the Holy Spirit is also the only true God along with the person of the father.
The word only modifies true God it does not modify "you" as Avery pointed out multiple times. Also, in Hebrews the person of the father also recognizes the Son as being God as well. So just as the son would recognize the deity of the father so does the father recognize the deity of the son likewise.
So according to the unitarian heretic God created the worlds through the flesh (who is not God) that means that matter existed before there was matter and God created matter through matter. This is not biblical, and it also goes against science as well. The guy is a pagan. Genesis is clear that God created the heavens and the earth in the beginning. It does not say that God created matter and then by means he created the heaven and the earth through that matter.
The verse the LORD says to my Lord contains two different Hebrew words for “lord” in the original. The first word is Yahweh, the Hebrew covenant name for God. The second is adoni, meaning “lord” or “master.”
True. But "Adonai" is frequently used to refer to Yahweh.
@ but in that verse it’s referred as master
@@Dj2023-z2s . so? That has NO bearing on the FACT that "Adonai" is often used as a reference to God in the Tanakh.
@@mysotiras21 the verse still stands
@@Dj2023-z2s , SO?
The Oneness guy has to go read the book of John so he can see the following scriptures in print. In the beginning there was the Word. The Word was with God and the Word was God. And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
if you replace the word “God” with actual names, it would not make sense
@kevinwilliams8033 Why are you replacing the term "God". Even if you did it would not make less since. For example if you replaced it with the word "King" it would sound exactly the same. Also the key term hear is "The Word". Replace the term "The Word" with the name "Jesus", then suddenly what Jesus is starts to become crystal clear.
KJV only😂😂😂😂😂
He needs MSG
The second guy speaks so much confusion.
What bible are supposed to read from KJV (80 books)? Standard Version Catholic Edition(73 books)? EHV? New World Translation of the Scriptures (66books)? It's decieving to start debating if you don't agree and establish that the source of your faith is actually coming from the divine. Those books above are all christian Bibles.
Any Bible you buy it same message! We focus on the message not textual variant! Some of the Bible have certain stuffs like maps etc that changes the pages not the message.
Which koran do you prefer?
@@jacstvofficial4490 Thank you for that response. When you say "same message" what it that message? Could you please shed lights on this? Thank you
@@salty-tomato great question! Are you referring to the version? If yes, there is one original text and there are the same in every different translation. Every Quran that you come across has the original text included then the translation on the side. In addition they are millions of human across the world, from different race, social class, that have memorized the original text from the first letter to the last comma hence making it virtually impossible to modify or destroy it. That's the Genius of god!
Wow so Jesus is the father , sit at right hand means , power. Then Jesus is a sprit 😅 and we are ideas and sent from heaven. How can you read simple English and just make what you want from it . The bible isn't a Shakespeare poem . I understand some may need to be broke down but the bible is pretty straight forward. 😅😅 may lord Jesus bless everyone
Is the trinity not referred to in Genesis?.....GOD the father, the WORD, the SPIRIT
what verse?
@@kevinwilliams8033 In GEN 1 and 2 the SPIRIT of the FATHER (GOD) covers the earth. the WORD of God is mentioned in other sections.
@@petrospetroupetrou9653 ok yes the Spirit of God is mentioned in Genesis
but where does the concept of the doctrine of the Trinity come up in Genesis?
where in that book does it indicate that there are 3 persons sharing the same “essence”?
That second guy..his first question is how you show how disingenuous and bad faith you're from the beginning..
Lets start off by assuming you're wrong..than try and prove you're right...but Avery delt with it well
my goodness. nice long suffering you have brother .
Pslm 45:6,7
Is the correct verse to justified the God head
I’m not Oneness but the First Guy had a good point…
“the Only True God”
this phrase doesn’t mean that the Father is the Only God but rather that He is the “Only True God”
there are other people/entities reffered to as “god” throughout the bible but there is “Only One True God” and according to Christ knowing the only True God and Christ (the One whom the Only True God sent) is the Way to Eternal Life…
the Father is the One who gave Christ authority to do everything that He did…
the Father gave the Son Sovereign power (Daniel 7) and gave the Son the authority to forgive sins (which the Son also gave to his disciples)
Christ is the exact image/representation of the Father…
if the trinity is true, why can’t we reverse the phrase above?
and say that the Father is the exact representation/image of Christ?
There is absolutely no sense in their arguments. Why the sniggering and laughing?
We were ideas of god that were sent down and Jesus was up then down and north south east almost west but then went east before north and so God was the son when the father went south on the right. My brain simply malfunctioned.
God logic couldn’t answer the question, so who is the one that got cooked?
Where is this 'Idea Doctrine' in the Bible? I'm not Sola Scriptura necessarily, but...
KJV Only too? C'mon Mayn.
Hey Avery, I think that you are entertaining a demon here!
Avery these people don’t know what “modifies” means. Your problem is that you speak to these people line they are intelligent and understand basic reasoning. You frustrate yourself and audience when you presuppose that you are speaking with people who knows what modify means.
its does not mean "ONE" it means "united" cause al-lah are different pagan idols united: Lah, Lat, Hubal (Baal), Manat, Uzza and the other 360 !!! Idols wich are named on the kaaba, therefore they threw a carpet over it.