@@JimmyGrant74 there just trying to keep the best at there events, no different then the nba mlb football do you watch them? At the top that’s how it is
@@Leland387 Armwrestling is not at NBA level and there is only a small pool of elite athletes. Don't try to make anti-competitive behaviour sound acceptable. It isn't. Turkey is not the armwrestling capital of the world.
This response from Engin is unsurprising to me. Engin is a man of principle. For what it's worth i think yourself and Engin are good men and it would be great to see you on the EvW stage once again. All the best 👍 🙏
Finally some movement in the right direction. Seems things are finally cooling off. Can’t wait for the full reconciliation, both of you are good dudes. Not to mention, I really want to see you back commentating matches at events 😂
@@Yes_I_c4n No, that was a whole other total shit show, and part of the cringiest most embarrassing thing ever to blight the sport of arm wrestling. The Fix 138 will forever live in the hearts and minds of true fans of this sport, as the worst and most shameful f**k up in AW history, and should never, EVER be repeated.... Neil...!
@@mymodel6 Yeah, forget Neil. This guys is the definition of stubborn. People keep telling him that nobody likes his format (non live events) and he carries on doing them. He's not taking my money, oh no he isn't.
@@Yes_I_c4nEngin wanted people to stop doing Live Commentaries of EvW events, i.e. where you don't show the video feed but you commentate the event live, so anyone who didn't like the main commentators or wanted a chatroom to chat with live could listen to the Live Commentary while still buying and watching the PPV separately. Bowen was one of the main guys doing Live Commentaries at the time and did not want to stop. Bowen thought it helped promote EvW more, whereas Engin thought it took away PPV dollars, so they butted heads pretty hard over that. Eventually Bowen was essentially banned from EvW events, and also King of the Table too I believe. Engin then started doing contracts with athletes to semi-prevent them from pulling at other organizations also, which Bowen felt was targeted at his organization AWE in Oceania, which made their relationship even worse. I say semi-prevent because the wording on the contracts with the EvW athletes was very vague and left the inclusion or exclusion of leagues up to Engin's discretion pretty much. But they're finally starting to squash the beef it looks like!
What's the bad blood for really? Engin reminds me of mafia, you're either om his side, or you're out. He just didn't like one of my comments once, and banned me from making comments on his channel. What a douche...
The fact is, if they would not let the winner of the qualifying matches pull in EvW, then their whole claim saying that EvW showcases the worlds best athletes would be a joke. In order to stand behind what EvW stands for, they have to let the best pull. Otherwise, it taints the whole organization. I'm glad to hear Engin say that.
Like Travis said, if eating crow enables you to get back into Engin's good graces, do it! Everyone already knows what happened in the past and sides were taken. Let bygones be bygones. Humble youself, even if you did nothing wrong, and get back into the spotlight with the other big names of the sport. The armwrestling world is not complete without you in it, Ryan
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It forces his hand to allow it. Not much to appreciate in my opinion. If he denied you, it would be an ESPECIALLY ugly move by him and from a “principle” standpoint, he won’t allow that to take place. But I can tell you for sure, he’d prefer you don’t win!!
gonna have to go with the dreaded 'do not recommend' channel on this. dont even know why people hate you but i definitely do not care. Not to be inundated with a video a day or more containing your musings on every miniscule AW news blip.
It shows how they run there organizations, if you’re the best you deserve to be there no grudge can stop that. Let’s go BLUE!
Pity they actively prevent athletes from competing in other tournaments. The sport is too small for that shit.
@@JimmyGrant74 there just trying to keep the best at there events, no different then the nba mlb football do you watch them? At the top that’s how it is
@@Leland387 Armwrestling is not at NBA level and there is only a small pool of elite athletes. Don't try to make anti-competitive behaviour sound acceptable. It isn't. Turkey is not the armwrestling capital of the world.
@@JimmyGrant74 ok cool agree to disagree, good day mate
@@JimmyGrant74you're an enemy of the sport
One step towards reconciliation. 💛
True. Social media banters disappear at times when people meet in person.
This response from Engin is unsurprising to me. Engin is a man of principle. For what it's worth i think yourself and Engin are good men and it would be great to see you on the EvW stage once again. All the best 👍 🙏
Finally some movement in the right direction. Seems things are finally cooling off. Can’t wait for the full reconciliation, both of you are good dudes. Not to mention, I really want to see you back commentating matches at events 😂
What's the bad blood for? Didn't all of this started off with the Sedis vs Devon match not being live?
@@Yes_I_c4n No, that was a whole other total shit show, and part of the cringiest most embarrassing thing ever to blight the sport of arm wrestling. The Fix 138 will forever live in the hearts and minds of true fans of this sport, as the worst and most shameful f**k up in AW history, and should never, EVER be repeated.... Neil...!
@@mymodel6 Yeah, forget Neil. This guys is the definition of stubborn. People keep telling him that nobody likes his format (non live events) and he carries on doing them. He's not taking my money, oh no he isn't.
@@mymodel6 But what's the issue with Ryan Bowen then?
@@Yes_I_c4nEngin wanted people to stop doing Live Commentaries of EvW events, i.e. where you don't show the video feed but you commentate the event live, so anyone who didn't like the main commentators or wanted a chatroom to chat with live could listen to the Live Commentary while still buying and watching the PPV separately. Bowen was one of the main guys doing Live Commentaries at the time and did not want to stop. Bowen thought it helped promote EvW more, whereas Engin thought it took away PPV dollars, so they butted heads pretty hard over that. Eventually Bowen was essentially banned from EvW events, and also King of the Table too I believe. Engin then started doing contracts with athletes to semi-prevent them from pulling at other organizations also, which Bowen felt was targeted at his organization AWE in Oceania, which made their relationship even worse. I say semi-prevent because the wording on the contracts with the EvW athletes was very vague and left the inclusion or exclusion of leagues up to Engin's discretion pretty much. But they're finally starting to squash the beef it looks like!
W Engin
Dubbel view engen
@@pandemayank no brother. It has been more than 1 year since then
Engin is a good guy
Ryan is also a good guy...
Just timing and surroundings.............
Hopefully we will see RB at EvsW
Let me correct this. Engin is a lunatic who makes good matches, but expects everyone to bow to his commands.
Ryan is a good guy.
Engin is not, let's be real here. Sometimes he's approaching lolcow territory. He's got no self-control and is always riling himself up.
What's the bad blood for really? Engin reminds me of mafia, you're either om his side, or you're out. He just didn't like one of my comments once, and banned me from making comments on his channel. What a douche...
lol engins approaching lolcow territory? and not the man who has a 7 part series about his delusion? @@madawcofarreat2348
@@madawcofarreat2348oh so he is a human like the rest of us.
Hoping to see you back on the big stage Ryan.
Good evening my friend and I hope all is well with you and your family also this is great to hear so let’s go brother you got so many of us behind you
And he’s back in the running
As a Aussie I would be dirty on Engin if he didn’t let you compete mate I’m glad he isn’t doing that. Thank you lord Engin 🙏
Isn't he though?
Engin seems to be more and more of a douche the more I get to "know" him. He's become so full of himself...
Ryan... Please make this happen! LOL
Announcing would be very cool as well, but take the win where you can get it.
The Matt Mask road
Who wins if Matt goes down to 105 also?
Engin sees quality in pullers and thats it, he's very professional
He also sees money
@@jckdnls9292 what's wrong with that ?
@@Rod_MolinaBachmann I didn't mean it in a bad way, I meant he's responsible for the product so that the pullers get paid
You have to get ultra fkn strong if you're going to pull this off
He said all you need to do is apologize then all would be good
Yup Engin owes Ryan a VERY heartfelt apology!
@@jrock2460 Exactly...!
The fact is, if they would not let the winner of the qualifying matches pull in EvW, then their whole claim saying that EvW showcases the worlds best athletes would be a joke.
In order to stand behind what EvW stands for, they have to let the best pull. Otherwise, it taints the whole organization.
I'm glad to hear Engin say that.
When the GOAT Blue shows up he will say "I'm back muthafluffers!!!"😂😂😂
I am happy to know. I really would love for you Ryan and Engin to be okay with each other again. Armwrestling is better that way!
Like Travis said, if eating crow enables you to get back into Engin's good graces, do it!
Everyone already knows what happened in the past and sides were taken. Let bygones be bygones. Humble youself, even if you did nothing wrong, and get back into the spotlight with the other big names of the sport. The armwrestling world is not complete without you in it, Ryan
Just like Dana White. Dana hated so many fighters, but he never stopped them from fighting.
Good stuff!
Ryan's got alot better lately kero it up blue
🎯@105 you have a stiff competition with tough pullers….start upgrading your stats Ryan, we need you there….at the top👍🏼💪🏼💪🏼
Lets go. Go win it ryan
lets gooo
Get in son. Do what you have to do.
Could Bowen win at 110kg though?
105kg for me
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Soon it will be better, I know it...
Just think ryan is a great commentator. Calm, analytic.Good contrast to the strength Sport legend
Yah man….🦾
Ryan, are these guys in a... let's say... "club" that you aren't a part of? Which makes strange issues arise?
🤘☕️🤘
Terzi vs Weasley EvW 13🎉
Do it
Dont listen to the antagonizers real men can work it out.
So the top 2 in Oceania qualifier goes and competes in the instanbul qualifier?
I read somewhere or heard someone saying that the top 3 from Oecania may go to Istanbul.
He said that because he know you can't do nothing in EvW 😂😂😂
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Engin vs Bowen KOTT would be 🔥🔥🔥
Ryan will get a match just like cvetan did😂
asdf
You're being given a 2nd chance, don't blow it for the sake of views
He'll find an excuse...
It forces his hand to allow it. Not much to appreciate in my opinion. If he denied you, it would be an ESPECIALLY ugly move by him and from a “principle” standpoint, he won’t allow that to take place. But I can tell you for sure, he’d prefer you don’t win!!
gonna have to go with the dreaded 'do not recommend' channel on this. dont even know why people hate you but i definitely do not care. Not to be inundated with a video a day or more containing your musings on every miniscule AW news blip.