How Red Bull's F1 tech team REALLY works
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- Опубліковано 1 тра 2024
- Does Adrian Newey get the credit he deserves for Red Bull's dominant F1 cars of 2022, 2023 and 2024 - and how does the technical team he's going to leave behind in 2025 actually operate?
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Everyone praises Newey, he is likely the most praised man in F1, this doesn't make sense.
Lulu fans need an excuse
Everyone apart from red bull*
Newey gets a lot of praise and it’s absolutely not the reason why he’s leaving.
Now it IS true that he can make much more money at another team because of his legacy. But the main reason why he’s leaving has to do with the whole Horner story.
I think it’s more about getting praise from the team. He for sure knows people think he’s a genius, it’s just about getting that respect from red bull itself i guess.
@@FA5FLIPwhat’s music got to do with this? 🤔 wrong profession buddy
Most youtube f1 commentary is made up. No one knows exactly why he left other than newey and until we have an interview with newey explaining why he left then he will remain the only one to know.
naaah The Race probably will send their most valuable and expensive gift to Newey. Their 1:1 sex doll of Lewis Hamilton himself, although not sure he'll appreciate that it's been used multiple times everyday
It’s why he left. Neweys wife liked twitter posts which claimed that newey wasn’t getting the credit he deserved. It’s why he mentioned that he’s passing the baton. Newey also doesn’t like the drama going on at the team. This has been pointed out in many publications.
@@Hamisxa I don't blame him, no one likes to stir the porridge.
@@chrisg5101ahhhh his wife’s liking of twitter posts what more concrete evidence do you need
That's like chief engineer or CEO or can be directors/owners kinda like having pattern copyright of that conglomerate product racing team. Many underestimate the rise of red bull racing into the extreme racing game of F1 instead it's introduction and dominance as of late. There is only 1 man can be in charge of top. This news although not known to me before, but there has to be somebody behind it to beat others, thus make it more sense into this matter. Now I know the Guy. What more to believe other than the man's wife tweets isn't it, probably a right cause I think of a different level of a man, somebody that one could make a copy of.
Not enough credit? I can’t even name one other technical director of another team and I watch every single practice, quali and race session and have been watching F1 since the 80s.
Really? Patrick Head? Ross Brawn? Among a hand full of others. I mean surely AT LEAST Ross Brawn. I think you just forgot.
Horner made comments about newey not doing much, and how the current technical staff functioned without him.
Come on, read between the lines. Actually it's not even reading between the lines, it's right there on the page. Newey is famously well-known, but we're referring to how he's been given credit (or not) specifically by Red Bull and Horner. Not by whether F1 fans know his name or not.
Also, if you've been watching F1 since the 80s and you don't know Gordon Murray or Ross Brawn or Rory Byrne, you must not have been watching very closely. Even Colin Chapman was still around in the early 80s, and he was pretty much the greatest racing car designer in the history of the planet. I wasn't even born until the late 80s and even I know those dudes.
@@Tetrahedragon2 I think he probably means current technical directors but also you get his point/
I don’t buy for a minute that Newey is upset about not getting enough credit from Red Bull. This story is BS. He has his reasons, and whatever they are, they’re a lot better than that.
This literally already was a thing like 2 years ago. He almost left then.
@@TheBajamin Then he's a dipshit. Everybody knows he has been RB's best weapon.
Made up stuff
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Honda are the people that don't get enough credit.
Agreed...
@@davidhilton8680 Yup, they managed to actually climbed their way up from being the absolute laughing stock to become one of the best PU on the grid atm
Well for a team that thinks he doesn't have much input in the car they were awfully keen to keep him.
Bad publicity if he leaves
What did they offer to keep him?
@cookie-pb3eu you think they didn't ask Newey what he wants?
@@user-ww9pd2rz4e I don't know, neither do you or any of those people that presume they do know.
Like what? It doesn't seem like they put any effort to keep him.
If Newey is the consultant in the group, it's going to be interesting to see the difference that same team would have in terms of performance in designing cars post-Newey. It's going to be their first true test of how well they can build a car without a big name they can turn to for input if they need it.
Main issue is that he offers a second pair of eyes with alot of experience they either get current Mercedes which is uncreative or is against experimental designs or they survive as a top 3 team
I think the biggest impact has already been made - the suspension platform he designed was their version of the merc engine advantage. If they are able to adapt that in the next reg cycle, then the big question mark will be the engine, which doesn't look too promising if the rumors are to be believed
"doesn't get enough credit" ok so honestly anyone (other than pure F1 nerds who even know the name of every pit crew member)remembers the designer of Mercedes's cars that had dominated just a few yrs ago or the person behind Schumacher's 5 wins?
Yeah 😂 those are massive names both in and out the sport
The engine is why Mercedes won. It was much more powerful and reliable than the rest.
@@TheBajaminThe 2020 Mercedes car is undoubtedly the strongest car from an aerodynamics standpoint. A good engine doesn't do much without a good chassis around it, look at Ferrari in 2019 with the SF90.
@@TheBajamin now you see that’s just not true is it? It wasn’t more powerful in the latter half of 2018 and all of 2020
The engine wasn’t the only reason for the success of 2020
@@christiansimmons630 The superiority of their engine had a knock on effect of allowing them time and resources to focus more on aero efficiency
2021-2022, Newey is talking about his focus on suspension and its importance to a stable aero platform.
By late 2023, Andrea Stella (McLaren) and leading members of other teams are talking about how they’re focusing on, guess what? The importance of suspension with regard to the aero platform.
Newey was two years ahead of most in recognising this. Don’t forget, he was around when F1 originally got into ground effects, (which was when the term porpoising was first associated with F1 cars).
I’m not saying that’s the only secret sauce in Red Bull’s dominance but it’s an example of a key contribution by Newey. The guy is a legend for a reason.
I was about to comment something similar. Newey probably isn’t responsible for designing much of the car. However, I’m sure he told the team or engineers what to focus on . That’s the advantage you get with someone like him.
Watching this actually made me feel like he's been getting too much credit.
Right? That's what I thought as well.
No he’s not. Horner made comments to the contrary last year. Which is why he wanted to leave back then. He’s humble but not a complete pushover. Geniuses want to be appreciated
My man, this is made up drama. I just happend to stumble on this video, he never ever said he feels like not recieving enough credit...
Well, he still is the main man and the brains behind the RB's + he leads the projects and the team. The creative people that need to create the plan on how the car are like Pierre Wache
Didn’t feel he got enough credit? Is he an Instagram model now? Everyone praises this man’s accomplishments, literally everyone. If that’s a true statement, dudes fully lost my respect.
He is talking about his relation with Red Bull not the community two diffrent things
True
he is probably meaning in red bull context, like he isnt headlining the project anymore. Pierre wache is more hands on and actually making the car work
Everyone on the outside sure. Doesn't sound like it was the same from the people inside RB
He's also leaving because of how redbull have dealt with the accusations of Christian horner
At the end of the day, F1 is a team sport. Everyone involved in the team, even the janitor mopping the floors, played a role into what makes these teams the best at what they do.
Yes, Newey is still the person with the vision and the big picture, but Pierre and the team are the ones that create it and use their knowledge the build Newey's idea
A clear vision is essential to determine the most appropriate direction for producing a good car within the budget cap.
“He’s the only person who can see air.”
Christian Horner
So?
Not enough credit... Man's been credited basically every race.
The Race resembles the Daily Mail nowadays.
Thank you Newey, have a great time wherever you go!
This man is a legend in F1 aerodynamic design
Newey is like Steve Jobs, he doesn't make or design shit he just knows how to get the right people motivated and knows what the end product should be when he sees it.
I think that's understating his contributions to the sport massively. Newey can find the gaps in the regulations and knows how to maximize the aerodynamic advantages that are to be had. He also knows how they should be built and engineered.
That couldn't be further from the truth, you literally have no idea what you're talking about.
Newey designed everything his whole career. It’s just he no longer does the grunt work. He guides the team and points to the overall direction they need to go. And corrects them when they’re going too far the wrong way. This is the definition of management. It’s not about him getting his hands dirty anymore. He’s the reason the team is where it is
Wrong, he knows his stuff
Steve Jobs was a mental case that pretended he came up with ideas he actually did not. He even screwed Steve Wozniak, Apple's true genius.
"he doesn't feel he gets enough credit"... source please?
Those who are saying he is the most praised person in F1 are purposely distorting what’s happening. Newey is leaving “Red Bull” for this reason. This is a Red Bull issue for him. Not an F1 issue at large.
It's a shame Newey’s leaving Red Bull. Yet, Red Bull will be fine without him, and vice-versa. Wherever he ends up, let’s hope he finds the credit he is looking for. I don't understand what he wants. Everyone is aware that Newey’s contributions to F1 are incomparable. Does he need a golden “Designed by Adrian Newey” plaque on every car he’s helped design? What more could Red Bull do to satisfy his ego? I don't understand why he needs this all of a sudden. It’s shameful that he’s using Horner’s controversy to find a way out of Red Bull. Maybe it’s just me, but he could've found a more elegant way to exit Red Bull.
The problem is you can’t say “red bull will be fine without him” because they did sweet FA before he arrived, every piece of their success is because of him so we will find out whether they’ll be alright but we don’t know 🤷🏼♂️
I saw the articles, takes, criticisms, and opinions on how impactful Newey really is when the news of him leaving Red Bull arrived. It's classic.
Except Newey designed and came up with the original concept by hand
Doesn't get enough credit??!! Literally everyone praises him
I have been thinking. For the purpose of the Formula 1 being competitive, what if Andrian Newey can the following: 1. Do 2 years at Ferrari set them up to being equal or better rivals to Redbull, 2. Do another 2 years with Mercedes, Aston Martin and McClaren.
So he’s not a glorified consultant, but a knowledgeable leader that knows what to do and what people to put in charge of area of expertise.
Adrian Newey has more google search results than 70% of the F1 grid, I think that says enough
It's a team effort. Credit should be the same for everyone.
Remember, f1 is a team sport. Yes newey is amazing, but there are other pieces to the puzzle that make red bull number 1
Dude makes 10 mil a year and is seen as a god. Dude just wants a podium
Didn't you just say "he designed the suspension", but then "he didn't design the car"??
..and because he was the only one in the paddock that had already seen ground effect cars and therefore saw the big problem some are still struggling on: porpoising. The overall concept is his and he warned every engineer in RB against it.
Newly doesn’t get enough credit yet I didn’t even know redbull had this whole structure 😂
If you feel entitled to get the credit or praise more than the others, than you are the problem, not the team
Everyone knows that Newey is the most valuable person in F1. That's universally established. "Not getting enough credit" doesn't make any sense as the reason he's leaving Red Bull. He gets literally all the credit.
all the delusional crystappen fans were begging newey to stay and now they’re coping 🤣
Not. True. He’s bored of the celebrity of it all. He’s bored of the rumors. He’s bored of the allegations. He’s bored of what F1 has become. I hope beyond all hope that he wants a hopeless case- a REAL F1 story…. A full-circle, joining Williams again. You can’t go up from the top. You CAN, however, build a legend. I hope Newey feels that way too. “Hero’s live forever…. But legends never die”.
Sounds like he’s saying it’s a team that created the car not one person
Here's what I see in the crystal ball: Newey leaves, does his year in gardening leave, joins back in time to help design the 2026 Ferrari. Everyone is super excited, thinking Ferrari will get another world championship with him and Hamilton. He designs a potato, and Hamilton get's obliterated by Leclerc. No world title in two years, Hamilton and Newey retire.
Lol everyone said the same thing but Lewis Hamilton aura alone is enough to win titles
Keep dreaming, charles is pathetic.
When is he leaving? If it’s the end of the season that he’s not gonna have enough time to design the 2026 car. If it’s now, then sure.
Even if his car isn't dominant, it will still most likely be decent, red bull has been a top three team for ages
Charles can't handle the pressure, that's why he keeps making mistakes. Your hate clouds your crystal ball. Grow up 👍👍
It sounds like he wants all the credit. There's not a single race weekend where people don't speak this man's name. How much credit does he want?
McLaren became more competitive after he left
Wait..what? Newey is saying he doesn't get enough credit? Lmao that's the dumbest shit I ever heard. He gets all the credit. Nobody ever even mentions Pierre Wache or anyone else at red bull. That's ridiculous.
Wache is a fantastic engineer yet FOM doesn't care about these people.
record's don't lie
Im guessing Newey has already guided red bull for 2025 while he goes and works on the red bull hypercar. And im sure theres plans for him to come back to f1 in 2026 if they havent already started designing the 2026 car under the new regs.(im sure they have)
He got 13 titels and most likely win a 14th in 2024.
That is as many as Schumacher and earring guy together😅
In every aero/ground effect season, his team was the standout. i dont know how much of these background engineers (in the video talked about) were with him? I doubt 90% were with him. So give this man a credit (Horner is trying to give them credit and keep saying Newey wasnt doing much is just an insult). Yeah it s not like all aero engineers dont know what they are doing. it is the practical experience that does matter. Knowing is half the equation, and means not much if you dont know the actual practical/physical implications/effects of your design. He is the 50% that actually does matter! Otherwise williams or ferrari should have been dominating/competing at the top of redbul which didnt exists until 2 decades ago. And they didnt create a new car, they just bought a team (from the sugar water advertising and sales) Every aero/ground effect influenced era was his domination. SO i think they dont give him enough credit. Having dominated this era, i think horner got too cocky, and it shows with his spat within the team.
Where Newey is, the team wins. The same as Ross Brawn. Paddy Lowe to some extent too.
Newy complaining he wants all the credit. The rest of the design team complaining Newy gets all the credit.
Newey hasn’t actively said anything. But he has the right to feel anyway he wants. Many people quit their jobs because they were looked over or not given enough credit. It’s actually very common
@@chrisg5101 oh I completely agree. Most people who I know have left their jobs it’s because they didn’t feel valued
This is actually a very important observation, and I think I agree with you. When all your staff disagree with each other, and all of them are kind of right, who's to blame? The boss. And the boss here is Christian Horner. No one should be surprised. The dude may be a shrewd tactician and a decisive leader in many ways, but in this particular way he has failed his team immensely.
Ah, The Race. Always finding a way to slate RedBull.
When max won the 22 championship everyone credited newey now fast forward to 24 Newey didnt build the car 😂 but still 90% of the grid want to.sign this man.
If Newey was so good, Red Bull would have 18 championships, not 7 over 18 years.
2014-2020 was engine power domination era. With Honda's engine efficiency and Newey's aero expertise Red Bull put an end to that in 2021 with Verstappen winning his First Championship and the rest is history.
@amenstal123 So?, that's completely irrelevant. Newey isn't a miracle maker, he like everyone else is part of a team, if Red Bull had 2 Nakita Mazaspins driving they'd have zero championships.
@@Mark_Something-Ermm-Yeah
Newey made 7 Championship Winning Cars. If Nakita had Newey, he'd already be an F1 Champion. F1 is not about the Driver more about The Car. Look at Hamilton without the fastest car, just average.
@amenstal123 you're delusional mate.
@@amenstal123 That´s true because Hamilton is a really good "average".
Max is clearly better than him, so anything "speed/car related" gets skewed aswell. When you see onboard of how Schumacher drove, or even Hakkinen, you see that they drive with finesse only Verstappen can match.
Not Barrichello or Montoya, not Alonso, nobody had the touch they did. They have better processing than the top drivers except for Verstappen who is as good as Schumacher was.
Hamilton is a focused pro, the most experienced "Alonso like" that has driven the wheels off of all kinds of machinery, and is at home at the car, but he is also better innately than Alonso by a smidge.
The differences are not big for sure, but Hamilton is no wonder driver as far as talent. He was the most focused, most accepted and most well liked driver though, and British. It came together for him.
Max would obliterate the opposition in those WDC cars considerably harder, and Rosberg could never beat him.
There is a reason Hamilton is an actual number 2 for Ferrari, to push LeClerc.
There is a reason why LeClerc was chasing Verstappen since karting and never made it happen. Mazepin was talented as much as LeClerc or Kvyat, perhaps Wehrlein and Piastri are as good, perhaps not quite. But I am confident in Saying Mazepin and kvyat are alike LeClerc in perception and execution. They are still solidly behind Verstappen´s innate faculties, and they were not quite pushing like Max.
He races to race, chases time and keeps being himself- meaning staying first where he belongs, and just keeps his distance time after time. Like Barrichello and Montoya(Russel and Norris), Hamilton is really good and a pro among pros, but there are limits.
There is a reason why Nakamura is touted as potentially the second best/most gifted chess player, by those that beat him in classic, and by Magnus "perhaps" Nakamura aswell, and that there are maybe several that are as smart as he is, who regularly challenged for top spots and/or number 2 in classic chess behind Carlsen.
There is say 3 homogenously intelligent guys who just want to win and respect each other as equals, and 15 less gifted geniuses, all chasing the best guy with 3 more IQ points than those at "the second best" rung of intellect. When they all do the same things, this is the difference.
That is true for F1 aswell.
So whatever they pay Max…they should triple it!
Newey is the only name know to the masses, not enough praise is redicilous
He's the glue
I can imagine Newey giving his inputs to a rigid Ferrari structure 😜😜😜 Ferrari will be like we will look into that 😮😮
I believe verstappen is just so good he makes car look better than it is just look at perez
Yes
It’s dominant because of one driver.
This is what F1 is like when a single team dominates. Internal divisions. They’d do better if another team actually had a fighters chance. RB would’ve been more focused on racing. Instead all the action is off track.
Let’s be real he getting lots of credit and media play over last 2 years
It's no coincidence wherever Newey goes victories follow
If you don't know who Adrian is and what he does you shouldn't watch F1.
Any seasoned F1 fan knows Redbull is only winning because of Newey.
Dominated since 2022, how about since the mid nineties.
The reason why is leaving only he knows, the rest is pure speculation, but what it is a fact os that he getting out after the internal fight between Marco-The Verstappens-Horner for the control of the team
Well if this is his issue, he might be better credited at AM rather than Ferrari.
This is hilarious. People trying to underrate the genius of the man because he’s leaving. It is not a coincidence that wherever he goes , teams dominate. Hopefully Ferrari next then red bull can get back in their can.
I wouldn't call the Red Bull's the "most dominant" as the gap to their rivals is much much smaller than Mercedes enjoyed from 2014-2020. Teams were barely allowed to catch up, then there was DAS.
Quite simple.. lets see how he does in his new ventures.. we wish him best, god speed 🎉
On what planet does newey not get credit???
So what tf did you conclude from this video?
Did Newey said that? ..or is another make up story to get a few likes? Probably the latest.
say, not said, if you insist on using said then don't use did. 🤓
And it would probably be better to say "or is IT another maDe up story" 🤓
Thats the most important role though 🧐
I would say that maybe there is a chance for an Austrian finally, but knowing Red Bull that will never happen.
Isn't he just going to going the hypercar project?
He’s currently working on the Hypercar project and will finish in the 1st quarter of 2025 then he’ll leave RB
@@skylarkn8701 aahhh, I see, soo looks like 2025 is up for RB again🫠
The same happens at Williams. Horner's becoming new Frank Williams.
this is fair enough but i have to add . . . . i ant name any other technical person of that team and when the car wins i simply say newey did it again
The simple answer is Max Verstappen. They might not have 3 champs in a row without him.
Finally Someone is talking about it
You seemed pretty convinced he was important when you posted the short “Red Bull pre-Newey” a few months ago. Why the sudden change of heart?
Even if Newey himself discredit him, Lulu🏳️🌈 fans will keep crying "Newey Newey.." if they hear someone praises Seb or Max's achievements. They now getting back the Karma, that people now started putting names like Allison & Eliot for Lewis' achievements.
This video commentary made no sense for so many reasons
Going to ferrari I bet
hopefully he goes to williams?
The Race pulling a Sky Sports and making up stories now? EVERYONE recognizes Newey's design genius.
There's a reasonfor him leaving RB for sure, but unless you can name credible sources, don't post vague narratives like this.
This is the corporate bullshit you see everyday, before everything comes crumbling down, praises sang all around, when shit hits the fan, everyone starts to talk like they know what’s going on.
Send him to Williams, let’s see what he can do there on a year or two, then I will give him all tue credit he wants
Old man to leave. Younger people has the chance now. Let other team offer him a new life.
Source: Jos Verstappen LOL
He killed Senna
You’re now just letting Red Bull control the narrative by downplaying Newley’s influence.
Anything short of calling him the God of wind would be seen as downplaying his influence because people have been overrating him since 2010. The fact he was given credit for the last two dominant champions not named Lewis Hamilton shows you that narrative comes form Hamilton fanboys who can't deal with him not having the fastest car and feel the need to stress the engineers importance when anyone else has a dominant car. Meanwhile Mike Elliott wasn't being hailed as a messiah when he made the fastest car in F1 history no that was all in the driver apparently.
Dominant car in wins, not lap time. The Mercedes '14 until '20 were much faster, relative.
He should throw a tantrum they'll pay attention.
What Adrian Newey can do is do the Ross Brawn technique. Develop a different car with his knowledge of F1 cars for a bankrupt team, dominate one season and sell the team at a fair price and retire😂😂😂😂
I don't think money is Newey's prime motivator!
How about their apart of a team.
You can’t call yourself a journalist if you’re just going to lie. Please do better than to make shit up
I can see why Newey is leaving
Why tf are these bots commenting? 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
At first I thought yours was a bot comment, and then I spotted them. Wth.
If they didn’t comment, how else can they scam you?
That's not why he left....