Makes no sense to me man 😭 i think they just commit to trying to limit Kyrie and Luka and live with Pj, but he’s proven that we shouldn’t do that shit 😂
Lifelong Mavs fan here and I absolutely hated that you guys got both Caruso and I Hart this year. You immediately addressed the two biggest weaknesses you had in our series last year in my opinion. That defense is stacked.
@@leoreoibardo9294their defense got even better compared to last year. Last year they are top 5 defense. This year, they have the best defense by far. Also despite their lack of size that u said, they lead the league in blocks.
People are switching off the NBA because people talk about how boring each game is because they all play the same. You can't say that about the Thunder. They're defensive is so superb that they're the anti-curry team. Where every team lives and dies by the 3, Thunders live and are thriving in their Defense. Thunder has so many tools under their belt, the right equipment for any occasion. And they don't even have Chet back.
OKC chose to leave players open and attack those who can score. They are betting those players won't beat them and so far, only one does Washington for Dallas. In the plaoffs last year had Washinton been what he was all season long OKC sweeps Dallas. If Washington only played against OKC he'd be in the HoF.
Great video! OKC was a top 5 defense last year, and replaced their weakest defender with 2 top 5 defensive players according to advanced metric w/Caruso and iHart... So yeah, of course they'd be better defensively.
I'm a new sub; thank you for discussing our favorite team. I am an OKC fan The Thunder have the best defense that no one is talking about. I'm so proud of this team and I'm happy to be part of it
Their defense meshes well with that game. Not today’s game. You would have to replace Ben Wallace or Rasheed Wallace which your choosing offense or defense if you were choosing a team for to mesh today. 2008 is a team that would be better for today because Rasheed was at center.
Yeah, they're a great defensive team in a weak defensive era, and nowadays everything is "the best ever" because basketball didn't exist 15 years ago apparently
Haven’t been able to watch enough thunder, so honest questions (would appreciate a responses): Is Joe a better defender than Wiggins? I thought he wasn’t a good defender Are all these defenders long enough to defend bigger wings (Tatum, Kawaii, etc)? Is Hartenstein actually a shooting threat now? Thank you anyone who can respond!
People aren't talking about it because they're still drifting towards the norm. They came out absolutely blasting and people did actually talk about their dominance early on, but now we're in sort of a "wait and see" period to see where things go after a substantial amount of games have been played. If they keep it up people will definitely start talking more about it as we get deeper into the season.
It's as if these guys just discovered that defense can win games. Check out the Detroit Bad Boys from the 80s and Kevin Garnett's Celtics from the 2000s. Go back a little further and we discover 10 NBA championships by a defensive Celtics team under Bill Russell in the 60s. It is nothing new, but it works if everybody commits to D.
Man at first I thought it was the suckiest thing ever that he was out but honestly now that he is it really gives a lot of other guys good opportunity to prove what they can do longer format and coach Degnault is letting them do just that. Wiggins is proving he can be essily be a crucial piece to any potential championship team/contender. Cason Wallace has got some starts, Ajay Mitchell is showing his potential, Dillon Jones getting some time, etc...They probably wont have as good of a record by the end as a result, but so far look at how little that matters. I dont need them to have some historic record this season, just go out and try and get that number 1 seed again( which looks very likely this year, but at least top 3 lets shoot for). Once Chet gets back they'll basically be invincible I swear. Can't wait to see Heartenstein and Holmgrem run the front court together with Shai, J dub, and Dort in the back. Insane...
@@ryanamburgy2791 Yeah man IMO the starting 5 of Shai, Jdub, Dort, Chet, and Hartenstein rivals Boston for sure. Right on par but even a little better defensively. Slightly worse offensively.
Its okay, theyre going up against the mavs who have a top 10 offensive rating and a top 10 defensive rating so we'll see what the thunder will do to stop them.
I’m a huge Mavs fan. I agree your defense is the best in this era. Best ever? I don’t know about that. I just hope PJ goes off for 50. 😂 I think the Thunder, the Celtics and the Mavs are the only real contenders. In that order. I don’t care about the cup at all. I just want to see the best two teams in the west go at it.
The pieces are here (include Chet in the photo) but to compare them to the 1960s Celtics is a mite premature. Look up old footage, with Russell, bothJoneses, Havlicek.
I am a Thunder fan as well. They need to find a way to not choke in the play offs. They lost to their first team in the playoffs. Sounds like the kind luck of the Dallas Cowboys.😢
It’s funny how if Cone was a typical Lakers normie no one would notice. But because he likes a team that is actually good then he’s not allowed to express it with his own videos. 🤔
Well because okc doesn’t really have a true co star right now so nobody really believes in them, I don’t belive in them. They can do this but in a series a weekness will be exposed eventually. I do expect a conference finals run at best.
People said the same thing about Wolves' top tier defense last season about being one of the best in recent memory and the Mavs made them look like idiots. 😂 If not for Lively going down, they would definitely get swept. Of course, OKC is very good. But if we're comparing defenders between teams, Wolves was arguably a better defensive team that this current OKC. Mavs just knew how to exploit them in the playoffs.
@@bytetracker OKC won, duh. OKC played good and Mavs didn't, end of story. I'm not sweating over this loss, you OKC fans want to make a big deal out of everything 😂😂 Playoffs is what matter, end of story. Duh. 😂
Yet when the refs call a tighter game like against the Rockets it's parade to the FT The Rockets shot 39. You can't win giving up 39 FTs. If they let OKC play its hell for the other team. Because they all slap at the ball.
JDub is 2nd best player and was last year… The idea of Chet as 2nd best player is theoretical he has not been healthy or consistent enough offensively for that title
They haven't played 30 games and if they were in the 1980's or 90's they would be a middle of the road team behind the Clyde Drexler Portland, the Magic Johnson Lakers, the Shawn Kemp Supersonics & Charles Barkley Suns in the West. And, They're not even in the same zip code of the 1996 Bulls, the '86 Celtics, the Bad-boy Pistons, the Bucks or the 2004 Detroit Pistons. Historically I would say they compare favorably with the 1947 Minneapolis Lakers or the 2022 Los Angeles Lakers cuz they can score. The original statement is ludicrous.
Washington will hit 7 from 12 3s tonight. Kyrie will have his best game for the year. Luka will be plus 25. Dub will have 12 points. SGA 26. Joe will go 1 for 9 and we will give up 125 points. Bet.
Nobody's talking about it because they aren't the best defense in the league ever. No team in this era should ever be considered the best ever. The rules are so different these days. They simply don't compare to any hand check/Jordan rules era team.
Thats why they make these stats relative to era. And they are incredibly good in this era, which is more impressive IMO due to players being more skilled and rules being catered to offense.
Realistically they should be 21-1 the only loss that made sense was the Dallas one all those other games they should’ve/could’ve won… Chet and Hartenstein haven’t even played together yet this season either 😂
I knew their defense was great this year but didn’t realize HOW great their defense has been. I’m a bucks fan, but an OKC and Boston finals would be pretty epic
@@WillToNihilsm I didn’t mean this in any bad way. I actually really like his videos and thought it would be cool to see him being able to genuinely express his passion for his team. My bad gang
Where is Lively, Gafford and Washington? No they are not the best. How many wins against the Mavs without Luka? Zero? Not the best. Luka rips Dort a new one each time.
We are about to get hit by the cone curse in the mavs game.... aren't we?
Yeah...
No
Hell nah! LFG boys! #ThunderUp
Nah we are gonna get hit with the PJ Washington curse
PJ Washington smiling ear to ear
More steals than turnovers is a WILD stat.
Bro is fueling PJ Washington's rage with this one
Is he?
We dont need PJ Jordan to come back
@@bigbangbasketball nah they def do. Glue guy without a doubt
You had to make this before the cup game didn’t you? Couldn’t have waited till after Tuesday? Well I’ve seen enough pj Washington 50 bomb incoming
Nobody is worrried about his trash ass
threecone curse MIGHT be real
Ain’t going to happen bud🤷🏾♂️
@@TexanByNature88history says pj will have a nuclear game
Makes no sense to me man 😭 i think they just commit to trying to limit Kyrie and Luka and live with Pj, but he’s proven that we shouldn’t do that shit 😂
Lifelong Mavs fan here and I absolutely hated that you guys got both Caruso and I Hart this year. You immediately addressed the two biggest weaknesses you had in our series last year in my opinion. That defense is stacked.
they address nothing. comes playoffs, their size will be exploited.
@@leoreoibardo9294 how they have more than enough size now, they have two top class centers, and still have jaylin williams (the pf)
@@leoreoibardo9294Yepp. And my grandma flew fighter planes in the Civil War.
@@leoreoibardo9294not really. With Chet and Ihart, at least one tall center will be on the court at all times.
@@leoreoibardo9294their defense got even better compared to last year. Last year they are top 5 defense. This year, they have the best defense by far. Also despite their lack of size that u said, they lead the league in blocks.
People are switching off the NBA because people talk about how boring each game is because they all play the same. You can't say that about the Thunder. They're defensive is so superb that they're the anti-curry team. Where every team lives and dies by the 3, Thunders live and are thriving in their Defense. Thunder has so many tools under their belt, the right equipment for any occasion. And they don't even have Chet back.
OKC chose to leave players open and attack those who can score. They are betting those players won't beat them and so far, only one does Washington for Dallas. In the plaoffs last year had Washinton been what he was all season long OKC sweeps Dallas. If Washington only played against OKC he'd be in the HoF.
Cope all you want buddy they still lost 😂
Facts if Washington played like ass okc would’be won it all
And did Mavs won?
@@bytetrackernope okc won obliterated Lukas ass cheeks
All the people in the comments talking about thunder losing now cause of the video have jinxed the jinx, thunder gonna win now
As a Thunder fan I am so happy that this is my team!!!
Great video! OKC was a top 5 defense last year, and replaced their weakest defender with 2 top 5 defensive players according to advanced metric w/Caruso and iHart... So yeah, of course they'd be better defensively.
I'm a new sub; thank you for discussing our favorite team. I am an OKC fan The Thunder have the best defense that no one is talking about. I'm so proud of this team and I'm happy to be part of it
04 pistons: 🧍♂️
Their defense meshes well with that game. Not today’s game. You would have to replace Ben Wallace or Rasheed Wallace which your choosing offense or defense if you were choosing a team for to mesh today. 2008 is a team that would be better for today because Rasheed was at center.
the defensive pressure in the OKC/Houston game was nuts, fun game to watch.
Great Video. This defense thus far has been fun to watch and unreal at times.
No, Pistons 2003/04 imo are better, but it's refreshing to see someone actually thriving on the D and OKC is doing that.
Yeah, they're a great defensive team in a weak defensive era, and nowadays everything is "the best ever" because basketball didn't exist 15 years ago apparently
Haven’t been able to watch enough thunder, so honest questions (would appreciate a responses):
Is Joe a better defender than Wiggins? I thought he wasn’t a good defender
Are all these defenders long enough to defend bigger wings (Tatum, Kawaii, etc)?
Is Hartenstein actually a shooting threat now?
Thank you anyone who can respond!
This makes me miss Chet SOOOO much😔😔
cone i am actually begging u to never make a video about the thunder again not even playing around man 😭
Ong he start talking crazy
OKC definitely on top this year
People aren't talking about it because they're still drifting towards the norm. They came out absolutely blasting and people did actually talk about their dominance early on, but now we're in sort of a "wait and see" period to see where things go after a substantial amount of games have been played. If they keep it up people will definitely start talking more about it as we get deeper into the season.
This team is for real. I wish them the very best.
Big Ben is waving
Cone knows the thunder
That pic of Lou dort hugging Luka is cute ❤️
Tuesday cannot come soon enough. Going to be must watch basketball.⛈️⬆️
It's as if these guys just discovered that defense can win games. Check out the Detroit Bad Boys from the 80s and Kevin Garnett's Celtics from the 2000s. Go back a little further and we discover 10 NBA championships by a defensive Celtics team under Bill Russell in the 60s. It is nothing new, but it works if everybody commits to D.
As a Knicks fan I want us to face OKC in the finals to have the top defense vs the top offense will be a masterclass also it’ll be the I Hart bowl
We could’ve won the mavs series if we collected maybe 10-15 more rebounds over the whole series. It was that close.
OKC is juggernaut, but don't sleep on Houston. They're very similar teams
The cone curse is almost broken
Without Chet 🥲
Man at first I thought it was the suckiest thing ever that he was out but honestly now that he is it really gives a lot of other guys good opportunity to prove what they can do longer format and coach Degnault is letting them do just that. Wiggins is proving he can be essily be a crucial piece to any potential championship team/contender. Cason Wallace has got some starts, Ajay Mitchell is showing his potential, Dillon Jones getting some time, etc...They probably wont have as good of a record by the end as a result, but so far look at how little that matters. I dont need them to have some historic record this season, just go out and try and get that number 1 seed again( which looks very likely this year, but at least top 3 lets shoot for). Once Chet gets back they'll basically be invincible I swear. Can't wait to see Heartenstein and Holmgrem run the front court together with Shai, J dub, and Dort in the back. Insane...
With Chet this defense gives up less than 100 a game
@@ryanamburgy2791 Yeah man IMO the starting 5 of Shai, Jdub, Dort, Chet, and Hartenstein rivals Boston for sure. Right on par but even a little better defensively. Slightly worse offensively.
@@ryanamburgy2791 With Caruso, Wallace, Joe, Wiggins, Williams off the bench....Unreal
89 pistons
Sidney moncrief bucks
04 pistons
05 spurs
OKC defense meets the Wolves defense 👀
Cone curse activated
OKC 🏀 Thunder ⛈️ ⚡
the cone curse is coming for us on Tuesday
Its okay, theyre going up against the mavs who have a top 10 offensive rating and a top 10 defensive rating so we'll see what the thunder will do to stop them.
I'll wait till Hartenstein and Holmgren are on the floor at the same time.
Great video, now PJ Washington about to drop 30 on us 7/8 shooting from deep.
Slightly biased take
They said the same thing about the Wolves last year and then elimination game Luka happened
Luka isint what killed us,rebounds killed us. We were the far smaller team..we now have 2 7 footers
I’m a huge Mavs fan. I agree your defense is the best in this era. Best ever? I don’t know about that. I just hope PJ goes off for 50. 😂 I think the Thunder, the Celtics and the Mavs are the only real contenders. In that order. I don’t care about the cup at all. I just want to see the best two teams in the west go at it.
Thunder needs Chet and JayLin back so the big guys can have rest
The pieces are here (include Chet in the photo) but to compare them to the 1960s Celtics is a mite premature. Look up old footage, with Russell, bothJoneses, Havlicek.
Gotta prove it in the playoffs though for this to be true
Now we're about to be cursed. Thanks cone 😒
I am a Thunder fan as well. They need to find a way to not choke in the play offs. They lost to their first team in the playoffs. Sounds like the kind luck of the Dallas Cowboys.😢
They swept the pelicans first round…
OKC finals? Seem likely.. Boston or Cleveland would be fun
Yep mavs vs Boston again sounds good … mavs win 😂
We'll talk about it when OKC is at full strength
PJ Washington is a okc nightmare… don’t ever forget it 😂
Looks like the Cone curse didnt hit this time
What’s the best app to use to see team offense and defensive rankings?
really cone? right before the mavs game come on man
they cant stop pj washington tho😂 which is hilarious
Who's laughing now?
It's Joever 💔
It’s funny how if Cone was a typical Lakers normie no one would notice. But because he likes a team that is actually good then he’s not allowed to express it with his own videos. 🤔
they not talking abt it bc it’s been 20 games
you’ve doomed us
Cone why before the mavs game bro WHY
People keep saying we will be cursed. What cone says or dosent say has no effect on okc defensive heart
Well because okc doesn’t really have a true co star right now so nobody really believes in them, I don’t belive in them. They can do this but in a series a weekness will be exposed eventually. I do expect a conference finals run at best.
Incoming cone curse
Bro you didn’t even bring up that JWill hasn’t touched the court. Didn’t he lead the league in a defensive stat? 🤔
People said the same thing about Wolves' top tier defense last season about being one of the best in recent memory and the Mavs made them look like idiots. 😂 If not for Lively going down, they would definitely get swept.
Of course, OKC is very good. But if we're comparing defenders between teams, Wolves was arguably a better defensive team that this current OKC. Mavs just knew how to exploit them in the playoffs.
And who won the game?
@@bytetracker OKC won, duh. OKC played good and Mavs didn't, end of story. I'm not sweating over this loss, you OKC fans want to make a big deal out of everything 😂😂 Playoffs is what matter, end of story. Duh. 😂
Imagine playing defence on the NBA 😅
Thank you so much, from Dallas. Guaranteed Mavs win, YESSSSS!
We will see 😂
And who won?
Knicks are best team. We were missing precious and mitch robinson. Dont sleep
Cone fighting the masculine urge not to post 100 thunder videos a day.
Mavs actually own OKC. Its weird
Yet when the refs call a tighter game like against the Rockets it's parade to the FT The Rockets shot 39. You can't win giving up 39 FTs. If they let OKC play its hell for the other team. Because they all slap at the ball.
Of course they are. They are being allowed to playing karate while others play real basketball.
Loool
Luka and PJ Washington will eat you up again
What were you saying?
Defense wins championships, and if you have the best defense in the history of the NBA… 🤷🏾♂️ Chip or bust season? Especially when Lincoln gets back
This video made me lol.
Hey Cone, how about a video on Daigneault's total lack of gamesmanship? If he doesn't step it up, this team will suffer.
I'm impressed with okc their 2nd best player is hurt and they still wrecking shit
JDub is 2nd best player and was last year… The idea of Chet as 2nd best player is theoretical he has not been healthy or consistent enough offensively for that title
They haven't played 30 games and if they were in the 1980's or 90's they would be a middle of the road team behind the Clyde Drexler Portland, the Magic Johnson Lakers, the Shawn Kemp Supersonics & Charles Barkley Suns in the West.
And,
They're not even in the same zip code of the 1996 Bulls, the '86 Celtics, the Bad-boy Pistons, the Bucks or the 2004 Detroit Pistons.
Historically I would say they compare favorably with the 1947 Minneapolis Lakers or the 2022 Los Angeles Lakers cuz they can score.
The original statement is ludicrous.
Season over...
Washington will hit 7 from 12 3s tonight. Kyrie will have his best game for the year. Luka will be plus 25.
Dub will have 12 points. SGA 26. Joe will go 1 for 9 and we will give up 125 points.
Bet.
So Mavs will do all that against the Raptors tonight? Cool.
@Mosin_4_Life yes! Here's hoping ..
@@samroyans9258 the point was you acting like the Mavs are playing Thunder tonight..
Nobody's talking about it because they aren't the best defense in the league ever. No team in this era should ever be considered the best ever. The rules are so different these days. They simply don't compare to any hand check/Jordan rules era team.
Wait wouldn’t it be more impressive their doing all of this without having all of the rules that favor defenses then o
@@bookedroomerright tho. lol. He just basically proved the point. lol. With old school rules no one would score on OKC. 😂
Thats why they make these stats relative to era. And they are incredibly good in this era, which is more impressive IMO due to players being more skilled and rules being catered to offense.
Mavs in 5
Whats the defense lookin like against contenders? 😂
I thought the Magic had the best defense.
I'm the biggest Thunder fan in the world. Try again.
cone curse 😢
Shooting more threes doesn't mean you'll score more points. It's lazy offense.
modern maybe, no where close to all time
Their defense is insane. 👏🏽 it’s amazing to watch
glaze
It's justified so it's ethical glaze
Do you actually watch the Thunder or do you enjoy trying to be funny?
This might be the greatest glazing in NBA history.
Luka is healthy okc you in trouble
Whatever, Mavs in 6
NOOOOOO
Luka is going to have 0 points tonight 😊
Realistically they should be 21-1 the only loss that made sense was the Dallas one all those other games they should’ve/could’ve won… Chet and Hartenstein haven’t even played together yet this season either 😂
Dude honestly just stop making thunder videos at this point. We know how these cone curses work…
I knew their defense was great this year but didn’t realize HOW great their defense has been.
I’m a bucks fan, but an OKC and Boston finals would be pretty epic
waiting for the 1 hour yap session glazing the thunder
You sound like your team is bad. Don't be jealous
🙄
@@WillToNihilsm I didn’t mean this in any bad way. I actually really like his videos and thought it would be cool to see him being able to genuinely express his passion for his team. My bad gang
Where is Lively, Gafford and Washington? No they are not the best. How many wins against the Mavs without Luka? Zero? Not the best. Luka rips Dort a new one each time.
I take it you like the horses.
what?
@@queefinatorgaming Mavericks duh. Why else is there a horse on their logo.
Mavs clears
FUCK NO