2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia Review: The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly
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- Опубліковано 11 жов 2024
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Does BMW, Audi, and Mercedes Benz have something to worry about? The Italians' latest weapon in the sports sedan battle is the Alfa Romeo Giulia. In this video we got to drive the Giulia Ti edition and we share with you the good, the bad, and the ugly.
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I recently bought a Giulia after years with a 3-series. The car is amazing especially compared to the new and disappointing BMWs. I do worry about reliability but so far rock solid and not even a hint of a problem. And so fast and smooth...
wait till you have to go for service, you will rethink your opinion of a BMW
Agis Alsatian Hey buddy it’s 2018 not 1990. Why the hate on the Giulia? Alfa offers a 5 year warranty on their product plus 3 years free servicing on all new Giulias.
@@agisalsatian5537 BMWs are unreliable pieces of shit lol
*Any problems yet?!*
Lucky S good thing the Giulia has a German gearbox
this was a great review!
i purchased my 2017 Giulia Ti just this past spring. used, 1 owner, traded up to mas... i'd say probably a decent car owner.
This is hands down the best car I have ever driven. the great traction makes those winding country/mountain roads that much more fun.
After 4 months of ownership i took a 5,100 km (roughly 3,000mile) road trip. the mountains of the virginias were my favourite part. the long, winding roads back and forth through beautiful appalachian mountains was by far one of the best drives I have ever been on. So breathtaking. And to be in a Giulia felt that much more amazing. This is not typically the class of vehicle I'm used to in my life so I am proud of the vehicle I have obtained in my life. I knew nothing of the company before coming across it by chance while car shopping and it has been the best decision I could have made.
I love a fast, power, and sporty sedan where the engine sound is low and the tail end does NOT spin out. Sounds like the perfect car for me!!!!!! Your gripes just made me more excited
Oh man, this is DEFINITELY the car for you. I’m an owner of the 2017 Q4 w/ sport package and I am right there with you. I loved this car before I bought it. It’s my dream car now. It’s truly incredible for the exact genre you and I are looking for. I highly recommend it if you haven’t pulled the trigger on buying anything yet.
I have 2017 same color, same wheels too! Driving it is like a dream. Four years, 35K miles not a single problem. Oil is borderline exotic and a little hard to find, spark plugs borderline exotic and a bit hard to find, coolant borderline exotic and a little hard to find; I just order from Mopar and its all good. Its a car, take care of it and it will take care of you.
I’m thinking of getting one with the exact same miles and year. Do you recommend it? Anything I should be aware of? Thank you in advance 🙏🏼
@@AlvarezMichelle99 just follow the maintenance and it just runs. Only "gotcha" I've found is you really need to put premium gas in it. I was on a road trip and stopped near Little Rock at some no name gas station. Within minutes of me filling up, it started running rough and letting me know it was pissed off. It ran fine on the highway but she was clear she doesn't like that cheap isht gas. She is Italian...high maintenance but worth it!
The paddle shifters are standard on the Giulia Ti Sport and can be added on the Ti Lusso with the Sport Package (adaptative suspension, paddle shifter and LSD)
Good review, you hit major points very well. I like the positives and negatives instead of just singing praises just because manufacturer gave you a car to test drive. One suggestion: We all know what you look like after first minute of the video. Please spend more video time showing us the car, how it drives etc. I came here to see the car, not the presenter. Edit so your commentary just a narrative to a car, and not a newscast-style presentation. Minor gripe, but its there
I am deciding whether or not I will get one and the lack of doughnuts, stick shift and performance exhaust mean nothing to me.
BadlndsBob did you get it?
That interrior is really the best i have seen on Alfa Romeo, you can probably order that same kind on Stelvio also. Full black interior is always borring and looks cheap on every car.
The new ice the best and the tan looks better than this, which is crema. Hell, the red interior looks better than this
It would have been helpful to give us a demonstration of the acceleration and shifting.
Did your Stelvio have the $995 leather package? It ads leather to the dash and doors. Every time someone reviews an Alfa without it, they complain about the interior. With it, they love it. The Giulia you were in had it. That and the sport package gets you full leather and the paddles. Plus other sports goodies. D for dynamic mode allows some slip of the traction and stability controls.
Select D from DNA for drift
should forever stay in D
its beautiful. Wish they'd do a manual trans
Not gonna lie lack of the option to disable traction control is pretty much a deal breaker for me.
Allffismio tune race mode then its perfect
The problem is people in cities don’t like driving manuals it’s fucking annoying in stop and go traffic it’s jerky and not fun, now on the country side yeah sure manuals are cool wide open roads, but for everyday practical use manuals are just a pain in the ass. I wanna set my adaptive cruise control and relax .
2.0T petrol engine has only ZF8, even in Europe
2.9 was available manual till 2018
2.2D was avilable manual till 2018
I hope your call for the manual transmission will be heard ? Then it might be my car too ! And that ESP should be pulled of !
I would suggest to get the TI sport model then you get the limited slip rear differential
Deciding on getting one
Damn front license plate laws
It breaks my heart to be forced to have a front license plate on mine. The body lines don’t deserve it! Lol
Ive been looking for a good review for this particular car as I have traded my Giulietta on one.
A white Giulia with sunroof
Your review was good but I have to agree with some of the comments here
Donuts...loud exhaust and rev heading are something for the race track and not really for a luxury saloon that you pay just over $50K AUD for
Your camera angles highlighted the interior nicely
Big thing here in Australia is playing with audio and comms devices whilst driving...You will be fined if caught..more so phones
If it's all set before you head off the rotary joystick shouldn't be an issue
Cheers.😊
Couldn’t agree more. I think the ONLY real complaint I have of my Q4 is that there’s no way to permanently set the auto engine off at stoplights to off. I hate having to push that off button every time I turn the car on... if I remember to. And also, with that engine off, the A/C kicks off while the fan still works. That entire feature needs work bad. But other than that, I could not love my car more.
You are aware that it is a Nurburgring sedan record holder?
not this model
Not this trim. The giulia quadrifoglio is. That trim is $35k more than this one
WRONG !! the Jaguar XE SV is the new holder get your facts right !
Mr F2015 no it’s not a production sedan, it’s a limited sedan
I think I would rather get a Buick Regal GS. It cost slightly cheaper but with more power. It also has built in WiFi, OnStar, GS Sport mode and has 350HP I think it 300HP...but either way it is worth less but with more bang for the money
great review - what do you think of the turn signal sound, maybe in a 1956 Ford but a Alfa ??
So the Giulia bus a party pooper. 😁
Hi, Good video. I mostly had similar feelings - I had a few long test drives with Giulia and Stelvios including manual and diesels, as I'm about to buy Giulia, but I have 2 comments:
1.manual gearbox hasn't been and I doubt it will be ever available in any of 2.0T pertrol engine anywhere on the World, so it is not that Americans are the ones treated different way that rest of the world. At least you have 280HP engine in either RWD or AWD configuration - in continental Europe 280HP comes only with AWD, and in UK it comes only as RWD, and so on both markets there are people who complain. We have 200HP variant with RWD on continent, so if one wants RWD needs 200HP and do ECU mods (luckily 200HP engine as is can do 280HP at least current production is nearly identical as 280HP version).
Manual gearbox was/is offered only with diesel engines since mid 2016, but this gearbox version was not selling, so once they brought 2.0 pertol half year later in continental Europe, they did not offered manual transmission at all for petrol.
In terem sof Quadrifoglio, there was manual available on early produciton, but it was not impressive and a lot of customers preferred automatic anyway, and so nowadays no longer manual can be ordered for quadrifoglio.
2. In terms of traction control off function - I guess ther is very tiny percenage of people for whom it may be real disadvantage, but lets be realistic, most of even car enthusiasts, even if they had possibility they would try it a few times with TC off and then never ever do it again, as they would have enough fun driving the car with traction control on while still staying on safer side. Because this car is brilliant how it drives, how it deals with road bends, how precise is the steering, and so a few minor things like that at the end should not matter.
BTW, did you try how it behaves with DNA selector set to D (traction control kick in threshold may allow for bit more fun and should not be that aggressive as for N or A modes) - at least it works that way in other Alfa I have (Giulietta, which is FWD model not sold in US)?
Wasn't the lack of a manual for the North American market because it didn't pass safety standards?
That and the take rate
I think the issue was with emissions standards
is the rwd fine in winter or do you suggest awd?
depends where you live... I live in the Alps and yes, AWD is "mandatory" (becuase the amount of snow and the mountain roads). But for places "straights", RWD is okay (of Course, it´s only my personal opinion)
you cant turn off traction control?
That camera focus is so annoying 😂
Why did Alfa have such bad reputation in the past.? This car handles very well. May do justice to do a comparison with old Alfa to kill the stigma ppl have in the past.?
You'll never kill the stigma from the past. They were very unreliable. The new ones seem to buck that trend. Hopefully they continue that way.
The transition between images is slow. Please make it faster.
They aren’t going to offer something people won’t buy. That’s the reason Mercedes has gotten away from manual transmissions. Sales for new manuals are around 2% a year. It’s not worth investing the money into it for these manufacturers
When a Supra or Fast and Furious Honda Civic guy drives a Suburban Sedan that’s supped up just a little bit
No, it's a lot more than a "suburban sedan that's souped up a bit"
Multilink front and rear suspension like true exotic and race cars. Same Carbon fiber driveshaft and ZF8 transmission that holds 500HP in QV model. Perfect weight distribution and amazing chassis rigidity. Forged heads, rods and oil squirters so car can be tuned to 400HP without engine blowing up. Alfa started with designing the quadrifoglio that has 500HP and this car inherited much of that architecture, so it is way over engineered and over spec'd relative to equivalent cars on the market. Plus its plain gorgeous.- I have had 911 drivers, corvettes and R8s yield to me on the road and give me thumbs up while driving.
6:57....UGH...this is getting tougher and tougher to watch....the platform is the "GIORGIO" platform, not the "GIULIA" platform....UGH...
does bmw audi jaguar mercedes infiniti lexus have something to worry about? no right now....another 5 years
that's when they supposed to worry about!
worry Lexus over 20 years..... the rest is gone by the time.
I bet you can remove some fuse to turn off TC😆
More like what's wrong with us Americans? Why can't we make it profitable for Alfa Romeo to sell us manual Giulias :\ they make such sexy looking cars !
7:54....UGH...."QUADRIFOGLIO TRIM"..there's that "G" thing again.....you know that the 8 speed ZF with the PADDLES set the FASTEST TIME AT NURBURGRING !!!!! IF I'M AN ENTHUSIAST, WHY WOULD I WANT THE MANUAL WHEN IT'S SLOWER !!!!
Why is it so difficult to pronounce foglio? Drives me crazy.
What’s reliability like tho
i wish the base giulia had at least 350 hp
I'm sure somebody will come out with a performance kit eventually, but 310hp ECU's already exist.
I think the next level up comes closer, for $1000ish more.
Personally I dont mind having more options. It's very unlikely that anyone approved for the base will be rejected for the sport, and that's what.. a $20 difference in monthly payments?
I say 290 is fine for anyone that's just here for the interior. And $20 is fine for anyone that also wants the ponies.
How many days per week do I need to set aside for the dealership repair trips?
You have your priorities wrong! LOL (Can't do Donuts! LOL) oh boy!
Get a mustang if you want to fishtail into something and wreck your car.
Hahahahaha
Is the fuel economy good?
It's great, 23 city 31 hwy
I average 19.6 mpg so for how I drive, it's terrible.
But, hey, it's powerful and sexy!
Point of information....you can get the same wood trim in the Stelvio....
Forza Alfa
I love the Guila TI, but without the manual transmission option, it doesn't have the same attraction. This car desperate needs a manual gearbox if it has any intentions of claiming to be a sports sedan. The car looks like sex on wheels and as a designer, I would not change a single line, which I can't say about any other car in 2020.
Quadra fo Lee oh- the G is silent bro .
these cars would be different if they werent owned by fiat same would maserati and ferrari
Dumb comment there buddy.
@@bundy26 not really
What so why can’t he do donuts?
How's my favourite Volvo doing?!
It’s getting there. New Volvo vid out Monday! Getting some things fixed 😁
-Gregson
suxxx....
If they bring manual transmission in here than I will buy it. This is the main reason I didn't buy it.
Manual swap it g
at 2 mins.. "the Italians have [finally' built a proper sports car".. umm really, yeah ever hear of Ferrari or Lamborghini . lol the Italians know sports cars
Less face, more car and road
Brakes?
Can't stand those brakes
This guy needs a CAMRY....Next....
lol
Well, #1 I assume it’s illegal to do donuts…so
Get the quadrifoglio.
So....because the car won't let you lose control, it's bad ? I own the Quadrifoglio (since May 2017, 7600 miles)....I have "Race" mode....no traction control...only me and my skills....I'm an enthusiast so I bought the "BIG DAWG"....Enthusiasts don't buy the "LUSSO" trim....This was a tremendous waste of time....Sorry D
How is the reliability so far? Any major issues? I love this car but I'm hesitant because there's not much of a history in the states, and I've heard negative things in terms of perceived reliability.
I've owned 5 ALFAS....one better than the next...I still own 3....1964 Giulia Sprint GT, 1991 164 S, 2017 Giulia Quad....I will tell that my Quad has been BULLETPROOF !!! It was properly updated before delivery and it is the best car I've ever owned....My 164 S is an amazing car but it needed proper maintenance which most people didn't do...for example, it is an interference engine, so what that means is that an interference engine is a type of internal combustion piston engine in which one or more valves in the fully open position extends into any area that the piston may travel into. Therefore, if the timing belt snaps, you've got a major problem...On the 164 the timing belt (as well as the tensioner and you might as well do the water pump) should be switched at 30,000 mile intervals or every 4 years max....therefore, if this bit of slightly expensive maintenance was ignored, the engine was toast....No different than M 5's and their Rod Bearing problems or 911 with IMS bearings that cause complete engine failure...however, somehow, the German cars are excluded from the stigma of "unreliability" because they're GERMAN !!! HOGWASH...Any high performance car will call for more attention by the owner...If you are not able to make that committment, buy a Consumer Reports approved TOASTER...I mean TOYOTA....So to answer your very good question, yes my Giulia Quad has been perfect...but so have all of my other Alfas !!!
Oh..I forgot to mention...there is one minor issue.....BMW M 3 and M 4 drivers looking jealously at my Quad at every stop light and then crying as they inhale the exhaust fumes from my Quad's massive diffuser !!!!!
LOL! It is a beauty. I would be jealous too.
Even the 2.0 liter Turbo Giulia is a GREAT CAR ! ...You see BMW takes an average 3 Series sedan and then adds things to get to the "M" variant...Alfa created the "BIG DAWG" first and then selectively trimmed away components to arrive at the base Giulia....so that means Chassis, Suspension, Steering (all best in class), Carbon Fiber Drive Shaft, Braking, all transfer to the base model making its handling very precise and sharp. This approach is why the Giulia is so much better than the 3 Series....
The reason why you can't do donuts is because it has rwd
what
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Me: Pikachu Face
UA-cam needs to cancel your account
Get some miles on it, and watch it fall apart like all other Italian cars
You obviously have no idea. Keep driving your reliable camry 😴
This could have been a decent review if only you'd stop waving your hand
why do you need to doughnuts
At 6:52 you lost me....you're supposed to be an internet automotive journalist.....QUADRIFOGLIO.....THE "G" IS SILENT !!!! Please, a little homework....be prepared....it's embarrassing....
if was not the bad reputation of FIAT i would buy one. I love the look of the car!