Made this video for fun plus I needed to blow off some steam after watching that awful final breath from Batwoman. Show: Batwoman Movie: Batman Beyond: Return of the Joke
Tim being traumatised for life by Joker's torture and brainwashing of him makes sense. Marcus turning crazy and evil because Joker shocked him with his joybuzzer not so much.
It’s baffling how a cartoon felt more real and mature than the live action show. Having Joker’s joybuzzer not only make you become Joker but also can cure your mental illness is the most ridiculous and silly thing the show’s ever did.
I think it can also be offensive. completely shit on how traumas work only for the "plot" but long after the kid who becomes killer croc because kilker croc bit him, i didn't expect much
And there's Jason Todd who had a rough childhood and was beaten to death by the joker and spent the next years of his life thirsting for nothing but for revenge and to make sure that nothing like that never happens to anyone else again
Totally agree just more proof that CW doesn’t care, they’ve never made comics or seen other great media, also I just trying to fan service people so they will try to watch their shows which didn’t work also they’re clearly more interested in politics then telling a good story
I don't think the bad thing was that the CW copied the final fight of the joker's return, the bad thing is that they didn't do it right Also, what kind of joker doesn't wear clown makeup? Hey? very bad batwoman, very bad
Jerome didn't wear makeup (although technically he wasn't Joker) Also spoilers for The Batman He didn't seem to wear any makeup in that either, but he was still recognizable by his gruesome smile
@@stevensteviepryde5888 well, at least with the joker in the batman and jerome if they looked like the joker, jerome also has a smile after he comes back from the dead, and the one from the batman looks terrifying with his deformed smile In addition, they do not need to summarize that they are the joker to know that they are the joker
@@stevensteviepryde5888 also, the Joker in the Batman was locked up, so I’m not entirely sure they just allow you to smuggle in make up into an asylum cell
@@MrZolomon_TheZodiac1109 - There is indeed nothing wrong with taking inspiration from older medias, as long as it's done correctly... like, the whole "School bus hijacking" scenario (that led to Marquis & Alice becoming who they are) is taken from "The Dark Knight" bank heist. As Michael Harlan pointed out, the whole "became Joker's successor and got cured via hand-buzzer" is straight from Batman Beyond. Marquis' final plan is pretty much lifted from "Batman 1989"... In *Batwoman* , Marquis has different outfits inspired by different Jokers. For instance, he has the red and orange one from "Joker 2019", the white one from "The Dark Knight Returns", the classic purple one... The actor, Nick Creegan, has also said that Marquis fashion sense is inspired by Leto's Joker's wardrobe; Nick has actually consulted Jared Leto to ask him for advice; the end result was pretty mediocre, but it sounds like the actor was really trying to do his best and gave ideas of his own and all... Sadly, from what I've seen (I haven't watched every episode of season 3), the end result wasn't great.
@@randallflagg3700 'Batwoman' repeatedly crossed the line from "Taking inspiration" from past Batman- related properties to blatantly ripping them off. The reason for this is how insanely lazy and devoid of good original ideas the show's writers have always been.
Haven't seen the show, but I've been told it literally starts with Kathy stealing Batman's tech and saying "Can't let a man do a woman's job" like excuse me who are you to decide who should or shouldn't be allowed to put their life on the line to protect the innocent?
Yeah the pilot is also a rip of Batman Beyond. Expect when that show did it in a respectable way of continuing the legacy with a new Batman, Batwoman just insults what came before, acts like she’s better while also being the worst hero imaginable getting people killed and letting villains like Alice go because “family”
@@stevensteviepryde5888 actually Bette Kane(Batwoman’s step-cousin) was the OG Batgirl then Flamebird-Hawkfire Barbara Gordon was the 2nd Batgirl then Oracle, also in another timeline/parallel universe/elsewords story, she was batwoman for a while Stephanie Brown was the 4th Robin, The 3rd Batgirl, batwoman briefly, then Spoiler Cassandra “Cassie” Cain, was the 4th batgirl, Black Bat, then Batwoman briefly, then finally Orphan
The last part where Batwoman defeat Marcus was so anti-climate and the clip with Krusty the Clown took the words right out from my mouth knowing how I feel.
In previous episodes a character named “Kiki roulette” (Joker’s weapon maker) not only goes “Joker took all of my credit” but also said “I was there when Joker killed Robin” Hate the constant Batman bashing and forced references
@@MichaelHarlan1999 The showrunners apparent belief that putting Bruce down would boost Kate and Ryan was stupid. Ryan's habit of calling characters who criticised her racist got on my nerves too.
You know what else I felt made this scene bad for batwoman. Even tho the show was already bad, but what caught my attention was the music playing, and what made joker return awesome for me was how suspenseful music played as tone change the moment terry started making fun of joker, and also when you see Tim finally free from joker control.
Yeah one thing that bothered the hell out of me with Batwoman was the soundtrack. They play the most tone deaf music anytime there’s action or a villain kills someone. Which is something I will showcase when I cover the other villains in this show
@@MichaelHarlan1999 JLongbone, who always did the funniest 'Batwoman' reviews, created a song for her reviews called "Here We Go Again," which incorporates that crappy music often used in 'Batwoman''s fight scenes.
@@MichaelHarlan1999 - Can't wait ^^ The one and only villain who had a cool soundtrack for his introduction, was, IMHO, Victor Zsasz. The scene where he lays the dead couple in bed, undress and looks for a spot for cut? Music was pretty haunting there... And it was nice that they copy-pasted the *Gotham* Zsasz, since Alex Morf had also played in that show. They also litteraly copy-pasted Renée Montoya, using the same actress in the same role, but it was actually a good idea IMHO since poor Montoya got the shaft in *Gotham* , vanishing after S1. Professor Pyg was another one lifted from *Gotham* , but unlike Zsasz, it was a failure...
@@Adamguy2003 - Haha, *JLongbone* is the best, at the end I kept watching Batwoman just for her reactions ^^ It's such a shame that her *GOTHAM HIGH* collaborations with the EFAP crew is still unfinished... _We Read Gotham High So You Don't Have To (ft. EFAP)_ We need a part 5 to finish this masterpiece >
Just for fun, lets get analytical with these two scenes, shall we? Prefight banter Batman beyond: we have the Joker trying to intimidate Terry in an attempt to get him to give up. Meanwhile, Terry is trying to show that he is not afraid and not faced by Jokers insults and comparrison to the original Batman. The “lets dance, bozoo” line is meant to show that he is not afraid and is more than willing to get locked in a room to beat the Joker up! Further showcasing Terrys bravery. Batwoman: the “your plan failed cliche” and some very out of context dialouge about Batwomans mother? What? Action Batman beyond: a solid 24 seconds of these two beating each other up. With Terry using his acrobatics and martial arts, keeping to his particular fighting style. With the Joker being unpredictable as usual. We think that he would use the steel pipe as a meelee weapon. But instead he throws it! He also lets Terry get close to punching him, but instead using a brutal counter attack. Only for Terry to fight dirty back. Showing Terrys quick adaptabilty. Its fun, its brutal and of course: fricking awesome. Also the music is great, it fits the setting and is very fun to listen to. Batwoman: swinging a pipe, dodging the pipe, some kicking and a very poor music choice. A pop song during a fight? Seriously? Acting Batman beyond: we have Mark Hamill sounding both like the joker and VERY frustrated with Terry. We also have Will Friedle making a very good Batman voice. Swithcing from the deep voice to his teen voice to make the laugh more prominant and loud. Batwoman: it just sounds like Ryan is whining, the laugh just sounds silly, Marcus doesnt even show any sign of pain. And Ryan screaming just sounds fake. Villian defeat Batman beyond: Terry is on the ground, the music rises, the Joker is choking him. while laughing his butt off! And then Terry does what the original Batman never did: laugh. And then he electrocutes Joker, Sparks fly everywhere and the Joker is screaming in pain! The bat had the last laugh, not the clown. Terry has beaten Bruces biggest nemesis, avenged poor Tims mind and saved the world from one mad clown. Batwoman: he runs, she zaps him, he’s out like a wus. I haven't watched the Batwoman show, but i can clearly see the lack of quality and bad writing. Any thoughts? PS: great video. :)
Bruh this was legit the best thing I've ever seen this whole week. Perfectly summarizes my thoughts on this entire show 3:54 Great video man, loved the analysis parts. It's a shame they tried so bad ripping of Batman Beyond my favorite Batman.
@@99999drake Using the rocket boots and flying batmobile together in a game would be so fun. Maybe you can play as Inque or old Bruce Wayne for a couple sections as well.
Return of the Joker Finale: A tense confrontation between a classic villain from the past and a young hero of the future who are evenly matched. The confrontation ultimately leads to the hero using his own strengths to exploit the villain’s weaknesses and insecurities in order to win. Batwoman Finale: Oh, boy, sis, it sure sucks that mommy never loved you enough! Guess which version I think is better? Spoiler Alert: The animated version.
Interesting thing about Batwoman is that the real Joker 🃏 is briefly seen during a flashback in the penultimate episode and he actually looks great. But we don't get a good look at him except for a Behind the Scenes photo.
Batwoman has shaky camera angles as well. I can barely follow what's happening. Batman Beyond on the other hand maintains excellent choreography whilst providing a clear perspective of the scene
@@alexgremlin3680 totally agree even if we get a live action Batman beyond I say the people who made that show if they’re still alive should be the only ones exclusively in charge of it in my opinion💁
That never occurred to me, but it should have. See, with that wretched series now FINALLY at an end, I think there are only two major Batman- related properties that 'Batwoman''s mind- numbingly lazy writers didn't either rip off or piss all over at least once: The ultra- old black and white shorts, and the 1989 Keaton/ Nicholson movie. Hell, in Season 3, they were so desperate in that regard that they actually resorted to A) Ripping off 'Batman and Robin' several times (The whole "Lucius Fox uploading his brain into the Bat- computer upon his death or whatever" element, and certain elements of the "Poison Ivy" storyline), and B) They actually ripped off THEIR OWN SHOW (Ryan and Marcus's relationship is just a paper- thin repackaging of Kate and Alice's relationship from Season 1). So, ripping off 'Return of the Joker' is perfectly in keeping with the writers' lazy, parasitic strategy for writing the show. No wonder it got canceled. Btw, great catch on the blood on Marcus's teeth abruptly vanishing! Have the writers ever heard of this funny little thing called "Continuity"?
@@MercenaryX84 agreed and sadly and laughably it didn’t work so in my opinion this show deserve to be canceled and serves the show right that’s what happens when you go woke you go broke people are not interested in politics! people need to remember that they should only be there to entertain it’s a fact we want to see a good story being told we do not want to feel like we’re in history class and comics, heroism, video games etc. are used as an escapism from reality we should not be reminded of how crappy life is that’s not how entertainment works same thing with comedy💁
@@MichaelHarlan1999 Personally I was never interested, the Batwoman show only increased my opinion of not bothering with it. Hopefully this new start with Discovery begins with more quality and entertaining DC shows and movies for the future.
@@xxlasthopexx2603 Yeah I’m hoping for that too. So far the only shows I like are Peacemaker, Superman & Lois, Stargirl and Doom Patrol. I’m really praying Gotham Knights ends up being good and nothing like the bad Arrowverse shows
@@MichaelHarlan1999 I wouldn’t hold your breath about Gotham Knights, I hear it’s being written by the Batwoman writers so there is only one outcome that will happen with that. Your best bet is probably playing the Gotham Knights game since it will probably be far superior vs the show in terms of storytelling.
2:58 Bloody teeth 3:04 No blood on teeth What the hell was CW thinking? 3:48 In the cartoon, Terry McGinnis placed the joy-buzzer at the back of the Joker's neck. Here, SHE PLACES IT ABOVE . . . *HIS FUCKING EAR!* Again. . . What the hell was CW thinking?
The positioning of the joy-buzzer is fine, since in *Beyond* the "Joker chip" is located on the neck, while in *Batwoman* she is trying to fry Marquis' brains.
CW has never read a comic book, also they make no sense, and they clearly aren’t thinking at all the only things they care about is drama and politics that’s why it’s getting shut down and is up for sale, not to mention they have never been profitable so it’s a simple as that
DC went from dark and gritty to dark and greedy. It's like they stopped trying. Meanwhile Marvel is preparing for phase 5 and 6. And what does DC have upcoming? Just Shazam and Black Adam. This is just sad. Truly sad. *VERY SAD* 🤦
Well, it's not all bad & bleak for DC either... and the MCU (movies and shows) have their share of disappointments as well (most recently, "Thor: Love and Thunder", "Black Widow", "Eternals", to stick to the movies only)... Back to DC, with upcoming movies like "Aquaman: The Lost Kingdom", "The Flash", "Joker: Folie à Deux", "Blue Beetle"... we're far from just having "Shazam! Fury of the Gods" & "Black Adam" upcoming And with Matt Reeves' "The Batman" having a guaranteed sequel, (plus a Penguin spin-off) DC fans are going to have a lot on their plates *just* with the movies, not even counting the TV shows...
I never ever watch the show but hearing reviews from thorias Unlimited and Heelsvs babyfaces AZ telling how God awful this show is and then I saw clips of it man those guys were right so I left my opinion about this show then these fans of this show yeah shockingly surprise not only am I surprise they are fans but they are toxic af
Seriously? That's Batwoman's Joker? Thank god I don't watch thr CW verse since Flash s3 as a 13 year old. Also, ripping of my favourite DC animated movie? Low. Blow.
Tim being traumatised for life by Joker's torture and brainwashing of him makes sense. Marcus turning crazy and evil because Joker shocked him with his joybuzzer not so much.
It’s baffling how a cartoon felt more real and mature than the live action show. Having Joker’s joybuzzer not only make you become Joker but also can cure your mental illness is the most ridiculous and silly thing the show’s ever did.
I think it can also be offensive. completely shit on how traumas work only for the "plot"
but long after the kid who becomes killer croc because kilker croc bit him, i didn't expect much
@@SubZero-hs9xc Croc being made an infection rather than a character sucked.
And there's Jason Todd who had a rough childhood and was beaten to death by the joker and spent the next years of his life thirsting for nothing but for revenge and to make sure that nothing like that never happens to anyone else again
Totally agree just more proof that CW doesn’t care, they’ve never made comics or seen other great media, also I just trying to fan service people so they will try to watch their shows which didn’t work also they’re clearly more interested in politics then telling a good story
Mark Hamil as the Joker is always a win in my book
Totally agree
Mark Hamill is better than this absurd nonsense
CinemaWins: Mark Hamill’s Joker is always a win!
*Ding*
I don't think the bad thing was that the CW copied the final fight of the joker's return, the bad thing is that they didn't do it right
Also, what kind of joker doesn't wear clown makeup? Hey? very bad batwoman, very bad
Jerome didn't wear makeup (although technically he wasn't Joker)
Also spoilers for The Batman
He didn't seem to wear any makeup in that either, but he was still recognizable by his gruesome smile
@@stevensteviepryde5888 well, at least with the joker in the batman and jerome if they looked like the joker, jerome also has a smile after he comes back from the dead, and the one from the batman looks terrifying with his deformed smile
In addition, they do not need to summarize that they are the joker to know that they are the joker
@@stevensteviepryde5888 also, the Joker in the Batman was locked up, so I’m not entirely sure they just allow you to smuggle in make up into an asylum cell
@@MrZolomon_TheZodiac1109 - There is indeed nothing wrong with taking inspiration from older medias, as long as it's done correctly... like, the whole "School bus hijacking" scenario (that led to Marquis & Alice becoming who they are) is taken from "The Dark Knight" bank heist.
As Michael Harlan pointed out, the whole "became Joker's successor and got cured via hand-buzzer" is straight from Batman Beyond.
Marquis' final plan is pretty much lifted from "Batman 1989"...
In *Batwoman* , Marquis has different outfits inspired by different Jokers.
For instance, he has the red and orange one from "Joker 2019", the white one from "The Dark Knight Returns", the classic purple one...
The actor, Nick Creegan, has also said that Marquis fashion sense is inspired by Leto's Joker's wardrobe; Nick has actually consulted Jared Leto to ask him for advice; the end result was pretty mediocre, but it sounds like the actor was really trying to do his best and gave ideas of his own and all...
Sadly, from what I've seen (I haven't watched every episode of season 3), the end result wasn't great.
@@randallflagg3700 'Batwoman' repeatedly crossed the line from "Taking inspiration" from past Batman- related properties to blatantly ripping them off. The reason for this is how insanely lazy and devoid of good original ideas the show's writers have always been.
Haven't seen the show, but I've been told it literally starts with Kathy stealing Batman's tech and saying "Can't let a man do a woman's job" like excuse me who are you to decide who should or shouldn't be allowed to put their life on the line to protect the innocent?
Yeah the pilot is also a rip of Batman Beyond. Expect when that show did it in a respectable way of continuing the legacy with a new Batman, Batwoman just insults what came before, acts like she’s better while also being the worst hero imaginable getting people killed and letting villains like Alice go because “family”
@@MichaelHarlan1999 yet another reason Dick and Terry are the only eligible candidates for Batman's successor
@@stevensteviepryde5888 haha exactly same with Barbara, Tim, Cassie Cain
@@gilbertmillers4865 Cassie was the og Batgirl, right?
@@stevensteviepryde5888 actually
Bette Kane(Batwoman’s step-cousin) was the OG Batgirl then Flamebird-Hawkfire
Barbara Gordon was the 2nd Batgirl then Oracle, also in another timeline/parallel universe/elsewords story, she was batwoman for a while
Stephanie Brown was the 4th Robin, The 3rd Batgirl, batwoman briefly, then Spoiler
Cassandra “Cassie” Cain, was the 4th batgirl, Black Bat, then Batwoman briefly, then finally Orphan
The last part where Batwoman defeat Marcus was so anti-climate and the clip with Krusty the Clown took the words right out from my mouth knowing how I feel.
Exactly I rewatched Batman beyond and honestly it really cleaned my eyes and reminded me of good Batman related content
A forced reference to Joker killing Jason Todd with Marcus using a crowbar.
In previous episodes a character named “Kiki roulette” (Joker’s weapon maker) not only goes “Joker took all of my credit” but also said “I was there when Joker killed Robin”
Hate the constant Batman bashing and forced references
@@MichaelHarlan1999 The showrunners apparent belief that putting Bruce down would boost Kate and Ryan was stupid. Ryan's habit of calling characters who criticised her racist got on my nerves too.
@@MichaelHarlan1999 What the fuck are you talking about? Bashing Batman
@@MichaelHarlan1999 I totally agree this show is a joke
Wow, ANOTHER instance of that dungheap of a show ripping off a past Batman- related property!
Color me unsurprised.
DCs animated shows have always blown their live action counterparts out of the water.
Haven’t seen the bat woman show but I can already tell which one had more love put into
Good thing this character is not an official Joker anyway.
You know what else I felt made this scene bad for batwoman. Even tho the show was already bad, but what caught my attention was the music playing, and what made joker return awesome for me was how suspenseful music played as tone change the moment terry started making fun of joker, and also when you see Tim finally free from joker control.
Yeah one thing that bothered the hell out of me with Batwoman was the soundtrack. They play the most tone deaf music anytime there’s action or a villain kills someone. Which is something I will showcase when I cover the other villains in this show
@@MichaelHarlan1999 JLongbone, who always did the funniest 'Batwoman' reviews, created a song for her reviews called "Here We Go Again," which incorporates that crappy music often used in 'Batwoman''s fight scenes.
@@MichaelHarlan1999 - Can't wait ^^ The one and only villain who had a cool soundtrack for his introduction, was, IMHO, Victor Zsasz.
The scene where he lays the dead couple in bed, undress and looks for a spot for cut?
Music was pretty haunting there...
And it was nice that they copy-pasted the *Gotham* Zsasz, since Alex Morf had also played in that show.
They also litteraly copy-pasted Renée Montoya, using the same actress in the same role, but it was actually a good idea IMHO since poor Montoya got the shaft in *Gotham* , vanishing after S1.
Professor Pyg was another one lifted from *Gotham* , but unlike Zsasz, it was a failure...
@@Adamguy2003 - Haha, *JLongbone* is the best, at the end I kept watching Batwoman just for her reactions ^^
It's such a shame that her *GOTHAM HIGH* collaborations with the EFAP crew is still unfinished...
_We Read Gotham High So You Don't Have To (ft. EFAP)_
We need a part 5 to finish this masterpiece >
Just for fun, lets get analytical with these two scenes, shall we?
Prefight banter
Batman beyond: we have the Joker trying to intimidate Terry in an attempt to get him to give up. Meanwhile, Terry is trying to show that he is not afraid and not faced by Jokers insults and comparrison to the original Batman. The “lets dance, bozoo” line is meant to show that he is not afraid and is more than willing to get locked in a room to beat the Joker up! Further showcasing Terrys bravery.
Batwoman: the “your plan failed cliche” and some very out of context dialouge about Batwomans mother? What?
Action
Batman beyond: a solid 24 seconds of these two beating each other up. With Terry using his acrobatics and martial arts, keeping to his particular fighting style. With the Joker being unpredictable as usual. We think that he would use the steel pipe as a meelee weapon. But instead he throws it! He also lets Terry get close to punching him, but instead using a brutal counter attack. Only for Terry to fight dirty back. Showing Terrys quick adaptabilty. Its fun, its brutal and of course: fricking awesome. Also the music is great, it fits the setting and is very fun to listen to.
Batwoman: swinging a pipe, dodging the pipe, some kicking and a very poor music choice. A pop song during a fight? Seriously?
Acting
Batman beyond: we have Mark Hamill sounding both like the joker and VERY frustrated with Terry. We also have Will Friedle making a very good Batman voice. Swithcing from the deep voice to his teen voice to make the laugh more prominant and loud.
Batwoman: it just sounds like Ryan is whining, the laugh just sounds silly, Marcus doesnt even show any sign of pain. And Ryan screaming just sounds fake.
Villian defeat
Batman beyond: Terry is on the ground, the music rises, the Joker is choking him. while laughing his butt off! And then Terry does what the original Batman never did: laugh. And then he electrocutes Joker, Sparks fly everywhere and the Joker is screaming in pain! The bat had the last laugh, not the clown. Terry has beaten Bruces biggest nemesis, avenged poor Tims mind and saved the world from one mad clown.
Batwoman: he runs, she zaps him, he’s out like a wus.
I haven't watched the Batwoman show, but i can clearly see the lack of quality and bad writing.
Any thoughts?
PS: great video. :)
This perfectly sums all the parts up. Very great work analyzing it all! 👌
Thank you! 😀
Magnificent analysis!
Bruh this was legit the best thing I've ever seen this whole week.
Perfectly summarizes my thoughts on this entire show 3:54
Great video man, loved the analysis parts. It's a shame they tried so bad ripping of Batman Beyond my favorite Batman.
Man, Rocksteady needs to make a batman beyond game. Or some studio needs to do a movie. My boy Terry needs some love.
I really want a game, imagine fly by yourself or batmovil, certain villains give them more time in screen like Blight, and more powers of the batsuit
@@99999drake Using the rocket boots and flying batmobile together in a game would be so fun. Maybe you can play as Inque or old Bruce Wayne for a couple sections as well.
@@NotoriousTim I doubt Inque, but maybe Bruce
@@99999drake Hey, you never know, they let you play as harley in a story expansion.
Return of the Joker Finale: A tense confrontation between a classic villain from the past and a young hero of the future who are evenly matched. The confrontation ultimately leads to the hero using his own strengths to exploit the villain’s weaknesses and insecurities in order to win.
Batwoman Finale: Oh, boy, sis, it sure sucks that mommy never loved you enough!
Guess which version I think is better?
Spoiler Alert: The animated version.
Hilarious to think Batwoman ended with 2 adult siblings fighting like kids over who their mother loved more.
Interesting thing about Batwoman is that the real Joker 🃏 is briefly seen during a flashback in the penultimate episode and he actually looks great. But we don't get a good look at him except for a Behind the Scenes photo.
"Batwoman what a joke"
I'm glad they cancelled this crap. Now they should Cancelled The Flash too.
@@diabolicalstudios8803 the movie or the show?
@@3Guys1Video Show
@@diabolicalstudios8803 ok
@@3Guys1Video why not both at this point, after Ezra's controversy in pretty sure no one wanta to go see that movie to support his career
Thank you. I’m glad I wasn't the only one that thought that.
I had no idea this is where Batwoman ended up, holy crap that’s hilarious lol
3:54 Literally my reaction. Like seriously, *what* the hell was *that*
Wait did they really just try to rip off Batman Beyond and thought nobody would notice!?!?
Batwoman has shaky camera angles as well. I can barely follow what's happening. Batman Beyond on the other hand maintains excellent choreography whilst providing a clear perspective of the scene
I was literally thinking the same thing when I watched the season.
Based, so very based you are and you sent a good message to the viewer at the end of the video. Epic
I love Batman Beyond
Super perfect
Dude. Can I still put you on restriction?
This was BOSS🤘😎🤘 Harlan's Rule.
What the hell is that indeed. Never got passed the pilot of Batwoman. XD Tbh HBO should be smart to make a Batman Beyond Live Action series instead.
Do you wanna risk Terry's legacy? Let's leave the original in peace and in power, if you want my personal opinion.
@@alexgremlin3680 totally agree even if we get a live action Batman beyond I say the people who made that show if they’re still alive should be the only ones exclusively in charge of it in my opinion💁
The Funny thing is without the Pop Music the fight itself would be passible. Other then that I got nothing nice to say about it.
That never occurred to me, but it should have.
See, with that wretched series now FINALLY at an end, I think there are only two major Batman- related properties that 'Batwoman''s mind- numbingly lazy writers didn't either rip off or piss all over at least once: The ultra- old black and white shorts, and the 1989 Keaton/ Nicholson movie.
Hell, in Season 3, they were so desperate in that regard that they actually resorted to A) Ripping off 'Batman and Robin' several times (The whole "Lucius Fox uploading his brain into the Bat- computer upon his death or whatever" element, and certain elements of the "Poison Ivy" storyline), and B) They actually ripped off THEIR OWN SHOW (Ryan and Marcus's relationship is just a paper- thin repackaging of Kate and Alice's relationship from Season 1).
So, ripping off 'Return of the Joker' is perfectly in keeping with the writers' lazy, parasitic strategy for writing the show.
No wonder it got canceled.
Btw, great catch on the blood on Marcus's teeth abruptly vanishing! Have the writers ever heard of this funny little thing called "Continuity"?
Batwoman seriously deserves better
Glad someone else recognized that they were trying to make an attempt to adapt that storyline and failed
Totally agree there’s a lesson here you go woke you go broke
@@gilbertmillers4865 You should also talk about how the second Batwoman was the show's attempt trying to do the Terry McGinnis story
@@MercenaryX84 agreed and sadly and laughably it didn’t work so in my opinion this show deserve to be canceled and serves the show right that’s what happens when you go woke you go broke people are not interested in politics! people need to remember that they should only be there to entertain it’s a fact we want to see a good story being told we do not want to feel like we’re in history class and comics, heroism, video games etc. are used as an escapism from reality we should not be reminded of how crappy life is that’s not how entertainment works same thing with comedy💁
@@gilbertmillers4865 Very true
Thank you Warner Discovery
No kidding someone there is really cleaning house with all the arrowverse stuff now ending lol.
@@MichaelHarlan1999 Personally I was never interested, the Batwoman show only increased my opinion of not bothering with it. Hopefully this new start with Discovery begins with more quality and entertaining DC shows and movies for the future.
@@xxlasthopexx2603 Yeah I’m hoping for that too. So far the only shows I like are Peacemaker, Superman & Lois, Stargirl and Doom Patrol. I’m really praying Gotham Knights ends up being good and nothing like the bad Arrowverse shows
@@MichaelHarlan1999 I wouldn’t hold your breath about Gotham Knights, I hear it’s being written by the Batwoman writers so there is only one outcome that will happen with that. Your best bet is probably playing the Gotham Knights game since it will probably be far superior vs the show in terms of storytelling.
@@xxlasthopexx2603 Game had me with a playable Red Hood lol
All I’m seeing and hearing is that Batman beyond is way better and does everything a lot better
2:58 Bloody teeth
3:04 No blood on teeth
What the hell was CW thinking?
3:48 In the cartoon, Terry McGinnis placed the joy-buzzer at the back of the Joker's neck. Here, SHE PLACES IT ABOVE . . . *HIS FUCKING EAR!*
Again. . . What the hell was CW thinking?
The positioning of the joy-buzzer is fine, since in *Beyond* the "Joker chip" is located on the neck, while in *Batwoman* she is trying to fry Marquis' brains.
CW has never read a comic book, also they make no sense, and they clearly aren’t thinking at all the only things they care about is drama and politics that’s why it’s getting shut down and is up for sale, not to mention they have never been profitable so it’s a simple as that
I could barely make it through season one!
It also shits
On how trauma's works
Haven’t seen it would you care to elaborate
@@kreigguardsman3355 i write it on anche other comment
Wow kind of glad I skipped out on watching Batwoman now seeing how they messed that up.
Wow well tis is something else isn't it and was aware of the somewhat similarities
Now hold up what the f**k they did to Joker?
Two things because politics, and they were apparently so desperate that’s why
@@gilbertmillers4865 exactly
DC went from dark and gritty to dark and greedy. It's like they stopped trying.
Meanwhile Marvel is preparing for phase 5 and 6. And what does DC have upcoming? Just Shazam and Black Adam.
This is just sad. Truly sad. *VERY SAD* 🤦
Well, it's not all bad & bleak for DC either... and the MCU (movies and shows) have their share of disappointments as well (most recently, "Thor: Love and Thunder", "Black Widow", "Eternals", to stick to the movies only)...
Back to DC, with upcoming movies like "Aquaman: The Lost Kingdom", "The Flash", "Joker: Folie à Deux", "Blue Beetle"... we're far from just having "Shazam! Fury of the Gods" & "Black Adam" upcoming
And with Matt Reeves' "The Batman" having a guaranteed sequel, (plus a Penguin spin-off) DC fans are going to have a lot on their plates *just* with the movies, not even counting the TV shows...
Terry was not stunning and brave enough.
I never ever watch the show but hearing reviews from thorias Unlimited and Heelsvs babyfaces AZ telling how God awful this show is and then I saw clips of it man those guys were right so I left my opinion about this show then these fans of this show yeah shockingly surprise not only am I surprise they are fans but they are toxic af
Seriously? That's Batwoman's Joker? Thank god I don't watch thr CW verse since Flash s3 as a 13 year old. Also, ripping of my favourite DC animated movie? Low. Blow.
You literally just proved why Batman beyond is way better than the CW and it’s nonsense😆!
Making a black stereotype, racist OC imposter batwoman and a black joker was so damn stupid and a bad idea
Interested in my opinion 🤨
I’m glad the show was canceled you go woke you go broke