CHEATING IN GUITAR HERO ??? || KarlJobst React

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  • Опубліковано 19 вер 2024
  • I didn't expect the ending tbh
    original video: • The Biggest Cheater In...
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  • @rumplstiltztinkerstein
    @rumplstiltztinkerstein 8 місяців тому +121

    It's sad how many people that actually work to improve get shadowed by cheaters.

    • @ectothermic
      @ectothermic 8 місяців тому +20

      That's one of the worst parts in my opinion.
      This dude, and the Geometry Dash one, stole world firsts.
      You can't get that back retroactively, man.

    • @rumplstiltztinkerstein
      @rumplstiltztinkerstein 8 місяців тому +18

      @@ectothermicYeah. There's a lot of difference between finding out you just broke a world record. In comparison to realizing that your attempt months ago actually was a world record.

    • @85Bad4ever
      @85Bad4ever 8 місяців тому +9

      yep, COD is proof for that also,few biggest streamers cheat like crazy, from home they kill 30 easy and no one can get behind them and know where enemys are ,but when they play live they suck

    • @theotherjared9824
      @theotherjared9824 8 місяців тому +4

      ​@ectothermic I mean, they technically didn't get world first if they cheated to get there, but a big asterisk has to go on every record going forward.

    • @cursedhawkins1305
      @cursedhawkins1305 3 місяці тому +1

      At least in the case of Schmooey when they did get called out, they did have a soul and all the money that was donated to him was refunded, how many cheaters do you know about that get caught cheating and have managed to accumulate a hefty revenue from their deception actually RETURN what they falsely gained?

  • @PlasmaMongoose
    @PlasmaMongoose 8 місяців тому +65

    Karl makes a lot of great content on cheaters and speed runs, good choice.

  • @ectothermic
    @ectothermic 8 місяців тому +46

    A lot of speedrun communities are weirdly cult-like.
    I've seen so many people expose cheaters only to get flamed and the story's always the same.
    Someone with a bigger following or authority finally decides to speak up and then change is made but it doesn't matter. :/

    • @Spectrum0122
      @Spectrum0122 5 місяців тому +2

      Thats the internet as a whole. UA-cam mass banned people for spamming until markiplier spoke out about it

  • @blackyoshi1230
    @blackyoshi1230 8 місяців тому +24

    9:26 - No joke, In the Garden of Eden by I. Ron Butterfly is actually _17 minutes long._

    • @Darth_Conans
      @Darth_Conans 7 місяців тому +4

      Wait a minute... That sounds like rock and/or roll!

    • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
      @THENAMEISQUICKMAN 5 місяців тому

      Rime of the Ancient Mariner and 2112 were my favourites to play back in the Rock Band 3 DLC days. Then you have infamous customs like Soulless 4 on Clone Hero.

  • @easylemon2547
    @easylemon2547 8 місяців тому +14

    Ah yes i remember that guy, he's the Riolu of CloneHero
    The Riolu scandal and the detective work on that one hits so much harder, can recommend Wirtual's video on the matter

  • @Carnax6969
    @Carnax6969 7 місяців тому +7

    Regardless if it's gaming, real life sports, or careers, cheating shouldn't be tolerated and should absolutely be exposed. Doesn't matter if you think the subject matter is mundane or whatnot, another person does care and has invested the time and energy to cultivate their skills. To then have a cheater just bump you out of the way of an achievement is heartbreaking.

    • @knexfan100
      @knexfan100 7 місяців тому +2

      But the idiot "It's just a game" crowd can't act all high-and-mighty with this logic.....
      If it's a competition: cheating should never be tolerated and the cheaters should be named & shamed so people are less likely to go clout chasing via cheating.
      People are putting in hundreds of thousands of hours of work to compete in anything just to get sniped by someone cheating.... and by the time these cheaters get discovered: alot of the legit dudes at the time of those fake records have already quit the hobby and are long gone.... Actually stealing records and people's time.

  • @SubliminaIMessages
    @SubliminaIMessages 8 місяців тому +32

    Say whatever you want about speedrunners, they dont mess around when it comes to cheating. They will be on your ass if they sense something off lol

    • @kopicat2429
      @kopicat2429 8 місяців тому

      Yeah? This very video kinda says otherwise. Since there had long been something 'off' if you will with this guy's records. But he was so trusted that it always got brushed off and investigations were done halfheartedly.
      So people seems to have been suspecting or wondered for a long time, sensing something was off. They just messed around if you will with the investigations.
      They didn't get on his ass way back when they fist sensed something wrong. They got on his ass when they realized there was CLEARLY something off.
      Edit; I do believe that speed runners take cheating seriously, but not like you said. They seem to only take it serious, when the cheating becomes more obvious. Not when there's just a 'sense' or suspicion. That might just be one guy who hones onto something. For whatever reason. Then once that one person manages to find something more concrete, THAT'S when the speedrunners at large get on your ass if you will.

  • @saisame7975
    @saisame7975 8 місяців тому +31

    He flew to close to the sun and got burned for it.

  • @thsudy
    @thsudy 8 місяців тому +10

    Not gonna lie. I’m genuinely surprised manscaped doesn’t sponsor Vtubers. I mean there are a lot of fans of them

    • @numberyi
      @numberyi 8 місяців тому +8

      they know these degens dont groom

    • @rsonic510
      @rsonic510 8 місяців тому +7

      ​@@numberyiExpanding the market is a valid tactic

  • @pluggedfinn-bj3hn
    @pluggedfinn-bj3hn 8 місяців тому +10

    The geometry dash cheating scandal was quite bad too, might want to react to it too.

    • @ectothermic
      @ectothermic 8 місяців тому +1

      These two made me really angry and then I realised every speedrun community is similar.
      The GoldenEye cheaters too.

  • @ndr2q
    @ndr2q 8 місяців тому +5

    Ears so fluffy … must headpat

  • @coreyvegar9152
    @coreyvegar9152 8 місяців тому +2

    I remember playing guitar hero, played almost all of them i think, those were the good old days.

  • @SenpaiSamaKun
    @SenpaiSamaKun 8 місяців тому +6

    While extremely impressive, the kind of cheating is made possible because Guitar Hero doesn't have a dynamic timing judgement system. That penalizes not hitting notes on the frame a real instrument would like in Asian rhythm games. Doubled down with keynotes where the song notes are synced with your own presses. (so if you're off tempo, the guitar/percussion/synth/whatever is) So the moment there's a tap and note desync, it's over.
    A lot of Konami stuff like Dance Rush and Beatmania has built in live cameras as well. So any editing or bad lighting would DQ your video to begin with.

  • @laughingmanime4622
    @laughingmanime4622 8 місяців тому +1

    The speedrun community is not one to try to get one over on. They are always looking at people who set new records or came up with a 'new technique' so they will naturally check it out frame by frame to see if 1. If truly does work, and 2. If can be further improved upon. So if they are doing those things they will also notice if certain things are not lining up as they should

  • @udahfickt
    @udahfickt 8 місяців тому +1

    That one part reminded me of matt mundane back it the day XD when he got called out for striking people on stream and he got cooked for like an hour and a half and just took it XD ah shit i gotta rewatch it

  • @procow2274
    @procow2274 8 місяців тому +1

    You know you've made it when people accuse you of cheating

  • @PrincessAshley-Kawaii
    @PrincessAshley-Kawaii 7 місяців тому

    I remember the hate and band wagon on those who called him fake being bullied. Wonder what those people feel and think now.

  • @SplittingOfPrides
    @SplittingOfPrides 8 місяців тому +1

    Reminds me of the South Park episode about guitar hero

  • @Thesnakerox
    @Thesnakerox 3 місяці тому

    Fun fact: A LOT has changed in the Clone Hero community since that video. Some for the better (e.g new cheat detection methods coming into play), some for the worse (e.g Frif was exposed as a predator), and...well, Schmooey is back LOL. He's doing it for real this time as far as other top players can tell tho

  • @floofiekun1875
    @floofiekun1875 3 місяці тому

    I give the man props though for paying back all the bounties. Yeah cheating like that is scummy, but being willing to pay that much money back to make up for it shows a good level of maturity and a genuine attempt to right their wrongs.

  • @MrAlex_Raven
    @MrAlex_Raven 8 місяців тому +1

    Acai and UKOGmonkey monkey brought me back in to watching Guitar Hero content. Glad you're familiar with Acai. Both are great imo.

  • @SuddenFool
    @SuddenFool 8 місяців тому +1

    Wirtual does some amazing videos on the trackmania top runners. Might find it interesting Alana

  • @JTL_IRL-zz8cq
    @JTL_IRL-zz8cq 7 місяців тому +1

    Since this is my first time watching Alana, I will give my first impressions: She's cool 👍

  • @744Dragon
    @744Dragon 6 місяців тому

    This was some awesome forensics like wow

  • @Foxentails
    @Foxentails 7 місяців тому

    Well, I remember playing "Mother" at 100% on normal mode in like 2006 or something lol.

  • @Rias-Gremory-a-gamer
    @Rias-Gremory-a-gamer 8 місяців тому +6

    This was a very cool video thank you for making it SmugAlana :) i think that guy may have done what he did with the money to negate some of the hate. but as always i enjoyed your react video very much. 😁😆

    • @robink8317
      @robink8317 8 місяців тому +1

      I think more so they can't sue

  • @simplyskrypt3914
    @simplyskrypt3914 6 місяців тому

    To give you an idea how different guitar hero and real guitar
    I once ranked top 0.5% worldwide back in the days of gh3 and wt, but i couldnt even play a nursery rhyme on a real guitar. Inversely, SLASH tried for a month to beat his own song on GH3 (Welcome to The Jungle)... ON MEDIUM. And he still hadnt beat it 😂

  • @sueflewelling3657
    @sueflewelling3657 8 місяців тому +2

    Great video smu

  • @JackTheSpades
    @JackTheSpades 8 місяців тому

    If you're taking a gander at KarlJobst's content, I'd also recommend the TrackMania speedrunning one.

  • @101Meeko101
    @101Meeko101 6 місяців тому

    it'd be a crime if he kept the money, theft under false pretenses

  • @HayaBoopa
    @HayaBoopa 8 місяців тому +9

    I bet all these dudes are real popular with the ladies with finger speed and dexterity like those 😂

    • @Nightmare_52
      @Nightmare_52 8 місяців тому

      vibrators cant compete with the speed of these guys

    • @ravinraj4400
      @ravinraj4400 8 місяців тому +3

      Noo pretty sure the speed is do to lack of woman

  • @kashawn105
    @kashawn105 8 місяців тому +1

    The only cheat I used in guitar hero was the one that unlocked all songs (I didn't have a second guitar and some songs were only unlockable in multiplayer and I had already cleared the single player campaign)

  • @HebuTheLoneWolf
    @HebuTheLoneWolf 7 місяців тому

    17:55 that normally is a big red flag :D
    friend that played a ton of CS 1.6 was called a cheater a lot but he use to take part on CS 1.6 lan parties and tournaments and was able to prove him self that he wasnt a cheater where the ppl that made those claims and where always "gods" never even was able to reach his level when they joined those lan parties or straight out refused to join or made up some excuses xD "this was in the late 90s"

    • @cranberrysauce61
      @cranberrysauce61 7 місяців тому

      clearly the lan parties didn't have the right gaming chair so the "gods" couldn't show off their 'skills'

  • @KiraSlith
    @KiraSlith 8 місяців тому +1

    The fact he sat on what must've been $10,000 from bounties, never spent a penny of it, and never got any real fame for it, people outside the top of the community clearly weren't tuning into his streams, makes me wonder why he even bothered. Was it JUST an ego trip? Was he just some lonely dork chasing the interaction and praise? There has to be SOME reason for it.

    • @THENAMEISQUICKMAN
      @THENAMEISQUICKMAN 5 місяців тому

      Nah, people WERE tuning into his streams. He was very popular as a CH player. All his cheated scores were done off stream though so people wouldn't have been able to catch him live.

  • @KrayzieStiles
    @KrayzieStiles 8 місяців тому

    I just watched a video of a guy FCing TTFAF at 180% speed.
    Dudes name is CarnyJared

  • @4713Caine
    @4713Caine 4 місяці тому

    sorry I'm new to this channel I watched this Jobst video and stumbled on your reaction. Your anime Avatar or whatever it's called is really adorable.

  • @TaifinNerris
    @TaifinNerris 8 місяців тому

    I have no skin in the game, on this one at least, but an older game, Beatmania IIDX, has also had issues with people faking results.

  • @shanold7681
    @shanold7681 8 місяців тому

    My fingers Hurt watching these people tap.....

  • @jrockz133t
    @jrockz133t 8 місяців тому

    I really hate that I can't watch her streams because every time I do, its the exact video that's gonna be uploaded to UA-cam. Also if you're a chatter, throw a hi UA-cam in any video, because I love saying hi to the twitch chat

  • @NukeSaturn_
    @NukeSaturn_ 6 місяців тому

    Shoutout acai

  • @sugoistalin7809
    @sugoistalin7809 8 місяців тому

    People really will just cheat at any meaningless thing.

  • @Moshinoki
    @Moshinoki 2 місяці тому

    Why are there always simps defending these cheaters in every reaction chat

  • @ryantwomey3463
    @ryantwomey3463 8 місяців тому

    I wouldn't call him the biggest cheater in gaming there has been many bigger but blowing shit out of proportion is what we are gonna do I guess

  • @leradmuiel7634
    @leradmuiel7634 7 місяців тому

    Gotta go fast!

  • @Bioshyn
    @Bioshyn 8 місяців тому +4

    keeping the bounty would have made him from a cheater to a cheater for money which is also called fraud. and that's actual criminal.

  • @Halo44327
    @Halo44327 Місяць тому +1

    People don’t get it, you lie once, you lose all credibility. Maybe he only did fake 4 videos but it was 4 videos. That’s enough to question his credible on everything now.

  • @jamiekosch2562
    @jamiekosch2562 8 місяців тому

    even if i no long hav the sisdume i usis to play it on and with but i stell hav that guitar from gruitar hero aftder i win it

  • @araarabutkermitthefrog
    @araarabutkermitthefrog 8 місяців тому

    Every single man in that video she watch if they have gf/wife
    Theyre definitely happy

  • @ravinraj4400
    @ravinraj4400 8 місяців тому +4

    @smugalana i have a question are you part of a group like vsojo or are u solo

    • @plotfinder5640
      @plotfinder5640 8 місяців тому +8

      As far as I know Alana is a indie vtuber.

    • @ThanatosStyx
      @ThanatosStyx 8 місяців тому +5

      From what I know, she's solo

    • @fortressandroidpldn9758
      @fortressandroidpldn9758 8 місяців тому +6

      definitely solo

    • @ravinraj4400
      @ravinraj4400 8 місяців тому

      She has a really chill stream and is like a female asmongold only a matter of time in that for big studios to make her offers

  • @Ryuga409
    @Ryuga409 8 місяців тому

    OK is it just me or does anyone else kinda hear crash bandicoot music in the beginning

  • @jamiekosch2562
    @jamiekosch2562 8 місяців тому

    hay i did not do it for money or fram or to look cool or be poppuler i did thos pvp gruitar hero battel modes to juts show how i can play the maney difnert muicegalisistermenits and to show i also hav letint its juts mosth think i can not do some thing cuz to them its seme inpositball but i also wood do it to show that even the inposisball is posisball and thos ones i did wer also esportsis macthsis and all the money wat less wer to thos how need it more see one can hav skills even from berth so if you think the peroins beside you is week and a underdog will you may be sirpiesis that thay may becom fo more laveyou then you think hav a nices day

  • @Gunmetal457
    @Gunmetal457 7 місяців тому

    Honestly he’s a real good guy for paying the money back to those people he’s a somewhat genuine guy and I can respect that

  • @jamiekosch2562
    @jamiekosch2562 8 місяців тому

    he may hav cheatdid but as less he gave all the money he wood hav win bake to hows how gave it to him in the first placsis

  • @dillan.mclenaghan
    @dillan.mclenaghan 6 місяців тому

    if you didnt now frif is gay

  • @jamiekosch2562
    @jamiekosch2562 8 місяців тому

    ye some fo thos guys wer good but thay wer not me wen i play guitar hero not loney wood i play in storey mode but i play in holloey frakeinggod dome and the speed at witch i playdid it bolw mines and stell dos today as i wood play that mode befor play in pvp solo battel mode at me mosthblissdooring speed fo blacklighting and then y wen beypen lightsspeed in the pvp battel mode o and wen i play the pvp battel mode i wood haf to setperimitorsis so the battels be cam elimeanains one baseic like guitar hero pvp mode as battels to the deteh bet posis fo eliemanasis and we loney play one song straireway to haven and at the end fo all thos pvp battel modes loney one sirivdid me i even stell hav that one fo akinda guitar hero gruitar for win all thos battels its my fender stratocaster and i stell hav it to

  • @TheHeartlessAlchemist
    @TheHeartlessAlchemist 8 місяців тому

    Karl is kinda cringe, but I like him.