If you don't think you are the greatest, who will. Kendrick said he is a competitor, and this isn't a sport. it's his life. Being great at what you do comes with challenges, road blocks, criticisms, opinions, disappointments, doors closing in your face, hate, jealousy, etc. Competition is not for the weak. Drake, Big Sean, and Lupe Fiasco are jealous of a man who is a competitor at heart. Kendrick never said he was Hip Hop saver, he just out smart y'all so call Hip Hop king. He was good before all this.
@@elzyofficial9087exactlyyyyy he can’t even work bc he’s too consumed in his relationships and his relationships outshine HIm and his Work is what Kendrick and Everyone has said.. nothing wrong with having a family but Kendrick manages to be KNOWN and an artist NOT bc of who he’s screwing but WTF he’s rapping 🤌🏾👌🏾👏🏾💯🥴🤷🏾♀️😂😂😂😂
Not Big Sean talking bout kicking homewreckers outta his house when he had Ariana hol'd up in his couch when he was dating Naya Riviera💀 Maybe he was talking bout himself or prolly Ari?😂
@@romaretaylor9953 I might be thinking of Pete Davidson I can’t remember tbh because all of these chicks date 1,000 different rappers and pro athletes every other week.
I think they all had great verses. I just think everyone calling what Kendrick said was a diss is what confused so many. And by Big Sean not adding it on the album is what annoyed Kendrick to me. And he (Sean) didn’t know how to move through the steam of that verse. But “They” all did great to me.
Sean said before control dropped that the sample couldn’t get cleared in time for hall of fame to drop on its scheduled date. Which makes sense to me, I doubt Kendrick cared about it not being on the album at least he dropped the song
I think Sean can go toe to toe with Drake! Drake copied Big Sean in many ways, and Drake is not a MC, Sean is! You can’t say he can’t go toe to toe with Drake, when Drake doesn’t write all his bars, but Sean does! I always knew the lyricist on Kanye’s label wrote for him.
@@Demsky83 This is Typical. Kendrick wrote for Dre, and the artist on TDE at times. Em wrote for Dre too, and likely others. Drake wrote for Wayne, Wayne probably wrote for Birdman and others. DJ Hed recently said on “The Bigger Picture” podcast he does with Elliot Wilson, that this is the normal pathway. You pay your dues, then you get to get a little assistance.
@@shriderrad4123 Not at all. I am a major Kendrick fan more than anything. But because Kanye was a jealous, corrupted, thieving label owner who took advantage of Sean and did not give him the credit he deserved. People didn’t Dog Drake or Kendrick because Wayne and Dre had their backs and bragged about them. Kanye bragged about himself, and said Drake was the best writer ever, that he wished Drake would write all his bars for him, know most of his work was written but Sean, Pusha T, Cyhi, etc. And didn’t even credit Sean many times. He didn’t want anyone on his label to outshine him, and Pusha T was running everything at the label without any help from Kanye, except when he would have a jealous episode and make himself President again because he thinks he can do it better than Pusha, temporarily. He was too selfish to focus on everyone else’s needs. He also owed Sean 6 million dollars, Sean settled for less to prevent having to take him to court, even though he treated him terribly, he still respects him for changing his life. That sounds like a weird control antic. Kanye should have been able to afford that full amount, I don’t ever wanna hear another money flex from him again! Sean gets more criticism than his peers who do bad bars too, Like Drake!!! And Wayne! Wayne has said some bars that should have gotten him Cancelled! And if you are going to say Kanye is great, you have to say his writers are great! Sean is one of them!
That’s what you got out of that? What I got was Kanye is Jealous of Sean! I always thought the reason Big Sean easily got so much hate was because Kanye liked that he was not being praised higher than him. How you on Drink Champs saying Drake is the best and you wish he would write all your bars, knowing Sean actually has written a lot of your bars! But if it was widely known, Sean would have been given credit for a lot of Kanye’s success and respected waaaay more! He is likely irritated with the public’s reaction to Kendrick at times because of shock Value, as opposed to lyricism…AT TIMES. Kendrick is my favorite rapper of all time, but I like and respect Sean too!
Also, almost all rappers deny their subliminal disses when asked about it. Including Kendrick! Lol. Pusha T said in an interview that subliminal disses take more talent to make than blatantly mention the person. And that’s why they don’t admit it.
yea i'm sorry but that's a big pile of BS - it's not that sneak dissing is easier/harder, it just has less consequences that dissing directly, and if other rappers can feel targeted by insults that aren't even directed to them, it has a broader impact on the scene but all in all, i don't think there's anything wrong with sneak dissing every now and then, but when a rapper does it constantly, over and over again on every single album, it's just a pussy rapper tryna play tough - and yeah i'm talking about drake, corny king and biggest pussy in the rap game
I don’t think subliminals is the issue. It’s the never standing on it. These dudes go back and forth thru music and behind closed doors. But with Big Sean, it seems like the disses stay in the booth and he goes back to tiptoeing around the ppl he disses.
@@Yodiene it does indeed seem like that to me at times too. I think maybe he doesn’t mind a subliminal war, but Kendrick will call and confront you and ask what’s up, and then dudes be like “oh I was just playing” according to the heart part 4. Lol! I still think the first part was to Drake, and the beat switched verse was to Sean, he mocks a voice that sounds like Sean before telling him to shut the F up. Lol. I also think at times maybe Sean wasn’t targeting anyone in particular, but not every time. Lol.
My nigga you honestly didn't cook with this comment, you're throwing shade, and you're not even giving credit where credit is due to counter balance the slander. That means you're literally hating, or giving you the benefit of the doubt, being ignorant for no reason.
@@ace89minidk about top 5 but if you think Sean isn’t lyrically talented your ear for bars is FUCKED. He’s rapped with countless respected emcees and always holds his own or stands out in some way esp post 2013
1. What do you mean Kendrick’s “thirst” for beef with Drake? Wasn’t Drake the one screaming drop, drop, drop? And Naa naa naa you’re following through? 2. What do you mean Kendrick is a home wrecker and is no longer with Whitney? Did SHE tell you that? Because from the pop out to the music video and her brother’s twitter feed it appears they are STILL together, so what do YOU know that we and apparently they as a couple don’t know?
Kanye finessed Big Sean here now painting him as the problem, Bit Sean is just tired now of being the good guy and having to accept all the crap they're handing him out
@@petertarentaal983 Agreed! Roc Nation executives said Big Sean had the worst record deal they ever seen. On Drink champs Sean named the executive who told him that. Kanye is a bad guy. People who love his music don’t want to accept that about Kanye.
Sean has been salty since that control verse. He's upset with himself for not seeing that Kendrick washed him on his own verse, and he was the last one to realise it 😂
@@nadine8764He wasn’t mad he washed him, he was mad the song overshadowed his album. Instead being asked about the album on his press run, they were asked about the verse. The song wasn’t even on his album, he didn’t have to release it.
I think all the rappers in the hip hop industry are really good rappers. I think what makes Kendrick stand out more from the rest of the rappers, is that not only is he a good rapper, he’s also a good lyricist. All of Kendrick’s verses in his entire discography, have good lyrics and very memorable bars. Word for word. I’m not saying that Big Sean doesn’t have good lyrics, it’s just that Kendrick has a way with words that he’s able to perfectly place double if not triple entendres in one sentence. His music videos are directed to where they can tell a story. That’s why I think Kendrick Lamar is so well liked.
Big Sean he can go toe to toe with the big three and I think that he's underrated and a unappreciated imagine if we got a track with drake j Cole and Kendrick and big Sean that'll be fire and that needs to happen like in five years later
@@younggod3906what I never got, is why Drake is in a conversation about the best rapper in the first place… Are we really going to Drake for bars and verses? We are going to Drake for the rappers he has as features and the beats in my perspective. That makes Drake a great artist, but doesn’t mean he can compete as the best rapper.
I think Big Sean ego got crushed so he just had to say something about control.. ego and pride blinded him. He could’ve really capitalized off of that control moment coz it was his record after all… I will tell you who the real Kendrick haters are; The Game and 50 Cent. And 50 cent is the biggest snake in the grass.. he’s dying to see Kendrick fail so bad.. 50 cent attaches himself to hot artists that have a “following” or supported by labels and producers coz he has not being recognized like Big 3 or big artists like Jigga/Nas/Dre/Snoop/Ice Cube and Em.. he’s never mentioned anything when that “legend” or “big 3” conversation comes around.. and I see him, he’s really hurt by it! He tried to put Kendrick on power coz of Em and Dre… but deep down he doesn’t like KDot.. I can see it!
@@arseeoliveira6934 it’s not hard to spot a hater. He has that white people smile when he sees Kendrick. Plus since the beef- he has been inserting himself to make it clear he’s with Drake.. for what reason?? It’s not like Drake did anything for him or have done anything with him before the beef.. but here’s the thing, he recognizes potential for future business.. coz he wants the support Drake has.. he wants the deals Drake has.. historically he should be supporting Kendrick coz they’ve performed and worked together.. and Kendrick has tight aligns with Dre, snoop and Eminem- and those are 50Cent “friends” .. so it’s weird to see how he moves-
You literally skipped dark sky paradise? That's a classic album. Just because he's not dissing Kendrick & you disappointed. You say he's not confident? When he's clearly talking about ye. When ye hated on him on drink champs. The matching tattoos with Uzi.
Saying your song isn't about another rapper doesn't show a lack of confidence. It shows that you don't want unnecessary energy coming your way when you aren't interested in that kind of situation. Bro just doesn't want a beef that he isn't actually starting to happen over nothing
Maybe its just me but if interviewers kept asking me the same questions about the same subject during almost every interview I had (where I am trying to promote my new/current projects) I would be defensive too smh lol
These are some pretty large reaches. Like.... Literally no one else has accused Kendrick of being a "homewrecker" aka, someone who sleeps with another person's partner. Also, literally no one knows his standing with his fiancé except him and his fiancé. And she definitely has been supporting him since she's heard all through out Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers, has been seen at all of his shows, and even was in the music video with him. My defense ain't even for Kendrick at this point. Yall gonna stop disrespecting Whitney! Leave that woman's business out ya mouth!
Big sean is under rated. One time I saw drake rapping Sean's lines on all me live and I just realized how sick the lyrics of his verse were. He smoked drake and 2 chainz on that record
Sean fumbled with control. He shoulda made that his single. And put a Control remix on the album with everybody mentioned on it. But let Kendrick Lamar record it first. He woulda did 500k first week with that easy. Instead he was in feelings and didnt take it and run with it.
@@romaretaylor9953 well he didn’t and how’d that work out for em? Thats what started his decline not musically but on the music business side. PR wont make him a bad artist but you gotta leverage publicity because he was signed to a 360 and took a loan to record that album and if you don’t recoup you either get shelved or you have to double down and get another loan. If you have a smash record like that you capitalize on it all costs and drag it out. Most artists never get a smash like that. Look at the timeline after that. By the time “ i decided” came around he was already complaining about rap money and his situation and not getting a push he was relegated to a single artist and in that type of deal he was in it fucked him. From then the label had pure “control”over him from and they killed his buzz and wouldn’t push his shit anymore. Also Jay got bodied by Em and put it on his album. Why? Because it’s a business recoup at all costs.
I was thinking the same thing, put it on the album, and be positive about it on interviews, thanking Kendrick while going to the bank. Be logical, get out of your feelings. I don't get why these men are so emotional.
@@yagomi32 facts. I think a control remix coulda changed the whole temperature of rap at the time with having every body mentioned rap like they rent due on it 😂
Big Sean will never be top 5 because of this . He doesn’t have the balls to say,” let’s go back and forth “. Big Sean been slick dissing . He needs to think he is number one to even have a chance to get close .
Its a great album, but people like you are way too loose with the word "classic"... you may love the album but that doesnt objectively make it a classic.
Goodbye and Good Riddance is a modern day classic. Acid Rap and Coloring Book. Idk bout Dark Sky's...atleast I'm not replaying the whole album frequently like others. Finally Famous is his best imo
When Big sean did Dance he coulda rolled w the big player w da bitches persona and it probably would of worked instead of beefing with kendrick on a level he KNEW he could never reach but personal take
There’s a very interesting connotation on genius fir the heart part 4. There’s this guys who attributes Kendrick using the word clash to specifically diss Drake cause that’s uk slang and drake first started collaborating uk artists and he died on that hill all the way up until the beef happened 😭😭😭😭 the heart part 4 definitely did have sneak disses to Sean too
@@andinetrbruce1213 I agree with you. However, it’s not hard for just about any rapper to be a truer MC than a Producer who rarely ever writes. The talent in rapping is the writing. Kanye is always going to be a GOAT Producer, you can say he is your personal favorite rapper, or call him culturally impactful. But it’s disrespectful to put him above a rapper who writes his own bars. No matter how mediocre you think that rapper is.
@@LeonaHeart It has been a while since i saw this video and what i was actually responding to. If i remember correctly, he said something about Kanye not being an emcee but when he listed who he believed was he included Drake in it. Of course Kanye is a producer, and DJs and producers usually have someone else write their bars. That is an old practice, and no one really judges them on it. But Drake has entire teams of ghostwriters and takes half an album from people and makes it his. I don't see the logic in saying that Kanye isn't an emcee while Drake is.
@@andinetrbruce1213 I have no idea what we are even disagreeing about at this point. Lol! I think it’s the definition of an Emcee. An Emcee WRITES. It’s impossible to call Kanye or Dr. Dre an Emcee. Drake is not considered an Emcee by most people anymore. But is More of one than Kanye, he has written many songs for Kanye, Wayne, Alicia Keys, Beyoncé, etc. Drake has the ability to be an Emcee but cares more about fast output of music to stay #1, which is practically impossible to do if you write all your bars by yourself. I am only a casual Drake fan and won’t be defending any of his unethical behavior that Kanye also does too. Kanye Just makes sure he steals from his own artist (Big Sean, etc) so they are less likely to sue or tell. He owed Sean $6 million, Sean took a settlement for less to prevent taking him to court. He could afford to pay him, that was a power trip. He also had Sean and all his artists writing for him and was not always crediting them. He didn’t credit Drake right away either. Kendrick is my favorite male rapper btw.
I personally believe Big Sean's disses were made interchangeable, meaning it could be for Kendrick or Kanye. Big Sean's smoke is for whoever responds back first. I dont like how he throws stones and then hides his hands. He's a man. Say everything with your chest!
People are reaching with the Kendrick stuff. I dont think Seans ever had issues with Kendrick, but i think Kendricks had issues with Sean. According to Sean, Top from TDE says Kendrick just had bad people in his ear.
REACHING?? lmao. Go listen to "Me, myself and I" and "No more interviews". Even with what we're getting recently, I wouldn't be surprised if those are disses towards Kendrick, he always does this "nahh I'm not dissing him, I'm dissing another guy which I'm not gonna say his name" bs
@@arseeoliveira6934 Kendrick isn't even the most prominent rapper known for skits and fast rapping. As Big Sean said in his interview with Joe Budden, that would apply more to rappers like Eminem or Logic but people just said Kendrick's name cause it fit a narrative.
@@arseeoliveira6934 Token, NF, any fast rapping Caucasoid inspired by Eminem has been called the "Saviour" of rap. Maybe not Logic, but read through any fast rappers comment section.
Sean can go vs Drake and Cole but he'll lose against Kendrick. Sean should definitely stay in his lane. I don't wanna see him quit or get clowned on bc I like him a lot. Have since Mercy.
@@Zenkaijuice05 Not True. Lol. The vast majority of Hip Hop fans know he and anyone who mentions “the savior of rap” in any way is talking about Kendrick. On that bar he needs to stop it. Lol. Other bars maybe not. But he will never convince any Kendrick fan or hip hop fan who is very familiar with Kendrick that that wasn’t about him. Lol.
I cannot take a person that say "b word" "a word" bro if you gone break down rap songs just say the cuss word, just don't say the N word or the F words (so you don't get banned or flagged)
man big sean better chill out we been off him pusha gone cook that boi ye gave pusha his paperwork yall think push aint on his side dont be dumb sean did too much
I like Big Sean but how the hell is he calling Kendrick a home wrecker when he cheated on Jhené with Ariana back in 2019? Or cheating with Ariana on his ex-fiancé.
I love Detroit as a city but could never take Sean serious. I grew up with his era of music but he's always reminded me of Macklemore even though Sean's at least in my rotation occasionally while Macklemore's not. I just keep coming back to never being able to take him seriously, similar to some problems i have with Aubrey post-Scorpion. Blacklemore, if you will
I think you have no idea what a home wrecker is. Kendrick was not thirsting for beef, drake has been subbing him in 11 of his last 17 projects. You reaching.
It sounds like you’re ignoring some obvious Drake disses in some of these subs. It is my belief that he has dissed everyone who you would consider a top rapper.
A homewrecker is not a married person who cheats. A homewrecker is someone who has an affair with someone who’s married and destroys their family. That was a reach
This whole video is off Premis, Sean has a classic in Darksky Paradise. And doesn't walk nothing back. When Kendrick was going at him, he gave him all the smoke. Far more than Drake did. But Kendrick went at who he was trying to get the whole time. The control verse was pretty much was what catapulted Kendrick. That's when Good Kid Mad city took off and went platinum. Because on the remix of don't kill my vibe is the best verse of that year. This vid mentioned that Detroit Mixtape is a classic. The truth is hall of fame should've been that but Kanye F'd him out of that and the Control not making the album. Sean always knows how to set the internet on fire before he releases his albums. Don't get that he walking back statements shit. Lacking confidence, do U MFs listen to music or just read head lines?
I know we've all been down on Cole since the apology, but putting him on the same tier as Tyler the creator and the others you mentioned, while also saying big Sean, Wale, and Chance could've reached that level, is crazy to the point of being almost disrespectful!!
@@WarrenF19 nah Cole on another level of course - I was saying if Wale Sean and Chance kept on the trajectory they were on in the mid-late 2010s, they could be at the top of the game today. I don’t think you remember Wale’s Seinfeld tapes or Acid Rap if you don’t think they could’ve been A or B tier rappers today if they kept dropping projects like that consistently.
@@rapaholiczi thought chance was going to to be hiphop savior after ultralightbeam. the big day was such a bomb that it completely wiped our memories of Coloring Book & Acid Rap 😭😭😭
I feel like some bars could also be aimed at Drake especially the homewrecker bar since Kendrick has cheated before he clearly felt some type of way about it and regrets it. Drake has never felt bad about any of his homewrecking actions and sometimes even uses it as a way to bolster his reputation
That Kendrick verse on control was really over rated at the time I thought Electronica had the best verse as a kid . Then I always liked Sean Verse too But honestly they all went crazy on that song The only reason they say that is cause Kendrick was name dropping cause Sean dead held his own
As a major Kendrick fan, I agree very much. Lupe hates on Kendrick a lot, but I do agree with him when he said that a lot of Kenny’s bars on Control were weird! Lol. Take out the name drops and. It’s a weird verse. Lol. Kendrick is my favorite rapper period, But I think Sean had the best verse.
Petty. You can't argue about who is "best". It's who is your favorite. It's an opinion not a fact therefore it can't be debated accurately. This is exhausting.
If you don't think you are the greatest, who will. Kendrick said he is a competitor, and this isn't a sport. it's his life. Being great at what you do comes with challenges, road blocks, criticisms, opinions, disappointments, doors closing in your face, hate, jealousy, etc. Competition is not for the weak. Drake, Big Sean, and Lupe Fiasco are jealous of a man who is a competitor at heart. Kendrick never said he was Hip Hop saver, he just out smart y'all so call Hip Hop king. He was good before all this.
Kendrick fan here and Yes he did say he's Hip-hop's Savior and he wasn't even wrong for saying it.
Why would he be jelous when he has a son he needs to focus on, honestly shutup respectfully lady.
@@elzyofficial9087exactlyyyyy he can’t even work bc he’s too consumed in his relationships and his relationships outshine HIm and his Work is what Kendrick and Everyone has said.. nothing wrong with having a family but Kendrick manages to be KNOWN and an artist NOT bc of who he’s screwing but WTF he’s rapping 🤌🏾👌🏾👏🏾💯🥴🤷🏾♀️😂😂😂😂
@@elzyofficial9087soooo Disrespectfully 🫵🏾 sthuuuu miss mamas🤭🙄🤷🏾♀️😂😂😂😂
@@elzyofficial9087soooo DISRESPECTFULLY you can go TF on 😶🤫🤐🥱 and put a 🧦 in it tooooooo misssss mamassssssss🫠🥴👌🏾😂😂😂😂😂😂
Not Big Sean talking bout kicking homewreckers outta his house when he had Ariana hol'd up in his couch when he was dating Naya Riviera💀 Maybe he was talking bout himself or prolly Ari?😂
Yup then he homewrecked Dot Da Genius and Jhene Aikos marriage too 😂😂 just to end up cheating on her when he was hooking back up with Ariana again
Let’s not forget what he did to Mac miller
@@Chicago311zeroMac dated Ariana after Sean
@@romaretaylor9953 I might be thinking of Pete Davidson I can’t remember tbh because all of these chicks date 1,000 different rappers and pro athletes every other week.
@@Chicago311zeroit was Pete Davidson but I can see the mix up tbf because she was on and off with Big Sean too
2:00 if Kanye is supporting anyone leaking Big Sean's album would be a very pussy move
Facts, tbh fans going to war over their favorite artists is pretty lame
Leaking an album is whack
Doubt Kanye supported that he’s had his fair share of music leak lol
I think they all had great verses. I just think everyone calling what Kendrick said was a diss is what confused so many. And by Big Sean not adding it on the album is what annoyed Kendrick to me. And he (Sean) didn’t know how to move through the steam of that verse. But “They” all did great to me.
Agreed!
Sean said before control dropped that the sample couldn’t get cleared in time for hall of fame to drop on its scheduled date. Which makes sense to me, I doubt Kendrick cared about it not being on the album at least he dropped the song
@@romaretaylor9953right but in the digital era it’s not impossible to release a deluxe when the sample clears, like most artists do.
Them rappers will never learn to leave k dot alone
Dark Sky Paradise is Big Sean's classic Album.
I think Sean can go toe to toe with Drake! Drake copied Big Sean in many ways, and Drake is not a MC, Sean is! You can’t say he can’t go toe to toe with Drake, when Drake doesn’t write all his bars, but Sean does! I always knew the lyricist on Kanye’s label wrote for him.
yes, this youtuber is a hardcore Drake glazer I mean stop it.
Apparently everyone from Sean, to Pusha T,to Cyhi was writing Kanye’s bars.
@@Demsky83 This is Typical. Kendrick wrote for Dre, and the artist on TDE at times. Em wrote for Dre too, and likely others. Drake wrote for Wayne, Wayne probably wrote for Birdman and others. DJ Hed recently said on “The Bigger Picture” podcast he does with Elliot Wilson, that this is the normal pathway. You pay your dues, then you get to get a little assistance.
@@LeonaHeartChrist you're the certified Big Sean glazer within this comment section
@@shriderrad4123 Not at all. I am a major Kendrick fan more than anything. But because Kanye was a jealous, corrupted, thieving label owner who took advantage of Sean and did not give him the credit he deserved. People didn’t Dog Drake or Kendrick because Wayne and Dre had their backs and bragged about them. Kanye bragged about himself, and said Drake was the best writer ever, that he wished Drake would write all his bars for him, know most of his work was written but Sean, Pusha T, Cyhi, etc. And didn’t even credit Sean many times. He didn’t want anyone on his label to outshine him, and Pusha T was running everything at the label without any help from Kanye, except when he would have a jealous episode and make himself President again because he thinks he can do it better than Pusha, temporarily. He was too selfish to focus on everyone else’s needs. He also owed Sean 6 million dollars, Sean settled for less to prevent having to take him to court, even though he treated him terribly, he still respects him for changing his life. That sounds like a weird control antic. Kanye should have been able to afford that full amount, I don’t ever wanna hear another money flex from him again! Sean gets more criticism than his peers who do bad bars too, Like Drake!!! And Wayne! Wayne has said some bars that should have gotten him Cancelled! And if you are going to say Kanye is great, you have to say his writers are great! Sean is one of them!
Dark Sky Paradise is a classic, let's not cap
Summary: Sean is jealous of Kendrick.
Facts 🎉
That’s what you got out of that? What I got was Kanye is Jealous of Sean! I always thought the reason Big Sean easily got so much hate was because Kanye liked that he was not being praised higher than him. How you on Drink Champs saying Drake is the best and you wish he would write all your bars, knowing Sean actually has written a lot of your bars! But if it was widely known, Sean would have been given credit for a lot of Kanye’s success and respected waaaay more! He is likely irritated with the public’s reaction to Kendrick at times because of shock Value, as opposed to lyricism…AT TIMES. Kendrick is my favorite rapper of all time, but I like and respect Sean too!
Honey some people aint smart you wasting your time. @AdrienneWSU
@AdrienneWSU Exactly
Why dose it have to be he is jealous of Kendrick why can't it just be he dose not like him as a person 🤷🏾
Also, almost all rappers deny their subliminal disses when asked about it. Including Kendrick! Lol. Pusha T said in an interview that subliminal disses take more talent to make than blatantly mention the person. And that’s why they don’t admit it.
yea i'm sorry but that's a big pile of BS - it's not that sneak dissing is easier/harder, it just has less consequences that dissing directly, and if other rappers can feel targeted by insults that aren't even directed to them, it has a broader impact on the scene
but all in all, i don't think there's anything wrong with sneak dissing every now and then, but when a rapper does it constantly, over and over again on every single album, it's just a pussy rapper tryna play tough - and yeah i'm talking about drake, corny king and biggest pussy in the rap game
I don’t think subliminals is the issue. It’s the never standing on it. These dudes go back and forth thru music and behind closed doors. But with Big Sean, it seems like the disses stay in the booth and he goes back to tiptoeing around the ppl he disses.
@@Yodiene it does indeed seem like that to me at times too. I think maybe he doesn’t mind a subliminal war, but Kendrick will call and confront you and ask what’s up, and then dudes be like “oh I was just playing” according to the heart part 4. Lol! I still think the first part was to Drake, and the beat switched verse was to Sean, he mocks a voice that sounds like Sean before telling him to shut the F up. Lol. I also think at times maybe Sean wasn’t targeting anyone in particular, but not every time. Lol.
Pretty sure the only person who puts Big Sean in their top five is Big Sean...
My nigga you honestly didn't cook with this comment, you're throwing shade, and you're not even giving credit where credit is due to counter balance the slander. That means you're literally hating, or giving you the benefit of the doubt, being ignorant for no reason.
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@howarddavis3517 so you and Big Sean, unless you are Big Sean 🔎
@@ace89minidk about top 5 but if you think Sean isn’t lyrically talented your ear for bars is FUCKED. He’s rapped with countless respected emcees and always holds his own or stands out in some way esp post 2013
@@romaretaylor9953 big Sean is trash
Leave Kdot alone, cos the spirit of Pac might haunt ya
😂😂
1. What do you mean Kendrick’s “thirst” for beef with Drake? Wasn’t Drake the one screaming drop, drop, drop? And Naa naa naa you’re following through?
2. What do you mean Kendrick is a home wrecker and is no longer with Whitney? Did SHE tell you that? Because from the pop out to the music video and her brother’s twitter feed it appears they are STILL together, so what do YOU know that we and apparently they as a couple don’t know?
Kanye finessed Big Sean here now painting him as the problem, Bit Sean is just tired now of being the good guy and having to accept all the crap they're handing him out
I see that, I think big sean should clap back
@@petertarentaal983 Agreed! Roc Nation executives said Big Sean had the worst record deal they ever seen. On Drink champs Sean named the executive who told him that. Kanye is a bad guy. People who love his music don’t want to accept that about Kanye.
I think that control verse really contributed to it as well.
Sean has been salty since that control verse. He's upset with himself for not seeing that Kendrick washed him on his own verse, and he was the last one to realise it 😂
Ofc😊
@@nadine8764yeeh he washed everybody and blev up
@@nadine8764He wasn’t mad he washed him, he was mad the song overshadowed his album. Instead being asked about the album on his press run, they were asked about the verse. The song wasn’t even on his album, he didn’t have to release it.
Big Sean ended up with jhene aiko he can’t be too mad lmao
I think all the rappers in the hip hop industry are really good rappers. I think what makes Kendrick stand out more from the rest of the rappers, is that not only is he a good rapper, he’s also a good lyricist. All of Kendrick’s verses in his entire discography, have good lyrics and very memorable bars. Word for word. I’m not saying that Big Sean doesn’t have good lyrics, it’s just that Kendrick has a way with words that he’s able to perfectly place double if not triple entendres in one sentence. His music videos are directed to where they can tell a story. That’s why I think Kendrick Lamar is so well liked.
Big Sean he can go toe to toe with the big three and I think that he's underrated and a unappreciated imagine if we got a track with drake j Cole and Kendrick and big Sean that'll be fire and that needs to happen like in five years later
Ommm No he’s better then Drake n that’s about it. He’s great but I feel he’s not that great but that’s my opinion. Everyone has one.😂
@@awakennow1841he’s not better than Drake stop that bs
@@younggod3906what I never got, is why Drake is in a conversation about the best rapper in the first place… Are we really going to Drake for bars and verses? We are going to Drake for the rappers he has as features and the beats in my perspective. That makes Drake a great artist, but doesn’t mean he can compete as the best rapper.
Part of the reason he didn’t is due to the Ye label he was under. Ye did to him what birdman did to Wayne 😢
@@younggod3906in the 2010s he wasn’t, in the 2020s he def IS
The fact that Ye expected that anyone would take his candidacy seriously tells everything u need to know about his own ego. Wtf lol
Y’all don’t consider Dark Sky Paradise a classic? 🤔
I think Big Sean ego got crushed so he just had to say something about control.. ego and pride blinded him. He could’ve really capitalized off of that control moment coz it was his record after all… I will tell you who the real Kendrick haters are; The Game and 50 Cent. And 50 cent is the biggest snake in the grass.. he’s dying to see Kendrick fail so bad.. 50 cent attaches himself to hot artists that have a “following” or supported by labels and producers coz he has not being recognized like Big 3 or big artists like Jigga/Nas/Dre/Snoop/Ice Cube and Em.. he’s never mentioned anything when that “legend” or “big 3” conversation comes around.. and I see him, he’s really hurt by it! He tried to put Kendrick on power coz of Em and Dre… but deep down he doesn’t like KDot.. I can see it!
uhmmm, interesting thoughts. What makes you think that 50 hates Kendrick?
50 also supported Drake, it was a whole meme
@@arseeoliveira6934 it’s not hard to spot a hater. He has that white people smile when he sees Kendrick. Plus since the beef- he has been inserting himself to make it clear he’s with Drake.. for what reason?? It’s not like Drake did anything for him or have done anything with him before the beef.. but here’s the thing, he recognizes potential for future business.. coz he wants the support Drake has.. he wants the deals Drake has.. historically he should be supporting Kendrick coz they’ve performed and worked together.. and Kendrick has tight aligns with Dre, snoop and Eminem- and those are 50Cent “friends” .. so it’s weird to see how he moves-
@@dudettevlogs4257 yea yea, that makes sense
You literally skipped dark sky paradise? That's a classic album. Just because he's not dissing Kendrick & you disappointed. You say he's not confident? When he's clearly talking about ye. When ye hated on him on drink champs. The matching tattoos with Uzi.
The homewrecker bar was def about Arianna Grande not Kendrick lol
I am just glad to hear something besides the Drake/Kendrick/the world beef it's already so old
Love your video, this explains alot
Saying your song isn't about another rapper doesn't show a lack of confidence. It shows that you don't want unnecessary energy coming your way when you aren't interested in that kind of situation. Bro just doesn't want a beef that he isn't actually starting to happen over nothing
Next video make one about lupe fiascos weird ass hate of kdot.
Maybe its just me but if interviewers kept asking me the same questions about the same subject during almost every interview I had (where I am trying to promote my new/current projects) I would be defensive too smh lol
I'd be interested in seeing a Big Sean/Kayne beef this year!
These are some pretty large reaches. Like.... Literally no one else has accused Kendrick of being a "homewrecker" aka, someone who sleeps with another person's partner. Also, literally no one knows his standing with his fiancé except him and his fiancé. And she definitely has been supporting him since she's heard all through out Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers, has been seen at all of his shows, and even was in the music video with him.
My defense ain't even for Kendrick at this point. Yall gonna stop disrespecting Whitney! Leave that woman's business out ya mouth!
Im glad it's not just me,who feels this way! 💯💯💯💯
You broke this down perfectly
Big Sean prolly suffering narcissistic abuse from Kanye 😂
Big sean is under rated. One time I saw drake rapping Sean's lines on all me live and I just realized how sick the lyrics of his verse were. He smoked drake and 2 chainz on that record
Would you rather be overpaid or underrated
Jhene has history with TDE. Sean must’ve didn’t like Dot & Jhene’s trip down memory lane, when he visited. 😂
Oh? She was signed to TdE?
Sean fumbled with control. He shoulda made that his single. And put a Control remix on the album with everybody mentioned on it. But let Kendrick Lamar record it first. He woulda did 500k first week with that easy. Instead he was in feelings and didnt take it and run with it.
@@romaretaylor9953 well he didn’t and how’d that work out for em? Thats what started his decline not musically but on the music business side. PR wont make him a bad artist but you gotta leverage publicity because he was signed to a 360 and took a loan to record that album and if you don’t recoup you either get shelved or you have to double down and get another loan. If you have a smash record like that you capitalize on it all costs and drag it out. Most artists never get a smash like that.
Look at the timeline after that. By the time “ i decided” came around he was already complaining about rap money and his situation and not getting a push he was relegated to a single artist and in that type of deal he was in it fucked him. From then the label had pure “control”over him from and they killed his buzz and wouldn’t push his shit anymore.
Also Jay got bodied by Em and put it on his album. Why? Because it’s a business recoup at all costs.
I was thinking the same thing, put it on the album, and be positive about it on interviews, thanking Kendrick while going to the bank. Be logical, get out of your feelings. I don't get why these men are so emotional.
@@yagomi32 facts. I think a control remix coulda changed the whole temperature of rap at the time with having every body mentioned rap like they rent due on it 😂
@@mikeiso8963 😂 I agree.
@@mikeiso8963 I’m telling y’all, Kanye didn’t want that boy to be more successful than him. He could have forced Sean to release Control.
Sean can rap, Kenny can rap... F what yall talk about, I want to see them both go at each other for real as a fan of both.
KDOT can RAP. Sean can rap.
You don't know what "homewrecker" means
4:05 what do you mean “you people”
There's no way you just said Sean can't go toe to toe with Drake (38:25)... DRAAAAAAKE?????? I mean I like his melodies, but DRAAAAAKE?
Big Sean could definitely kill drake
Big Sean will never be top 5 because of this . He doesn’t have the balls to say,” let’s go back and forth “. Big Sean been slick dissing . He needs to think he is number one to even have a chance to get close .
“Always rappin like you tryna get the slaves freed “ yea I like that guy😒👎🤬🤬😡😡😡
Anybody who says Dark sky paradise not a classic is a flat out lier 🤷🏿♂️
If it's not a "classic" it's definitely his best album
Its a great album, but people like you are way too loose with the word "classic"... you may love the album but that doesnt objectively make it a classic.
Goodbye and Good Riddance is a modern day classic. Acid Rap and Coloring Book. Idk bout Dark Sky's...atleast I'm not replaying the whole album frequently like others. Finally Famous is his best imo
When Big sean did Dance he coulda rolled w the big player w da bitches persona and it probably would of worked instead of beefing with kendrick on a level he KNEW he could never reach but personal take
Sean’s verse on Tobey was great.
There’s a very interesting connotation on genius fir the heart part 4. There’s this guys who attributes Kendrick using the word clash to specifically diss Drake cause that’s uk slang and drake first started collaborating uk artists and he died on that hill all the way up until the beef happened 😭😭😭😭 the heart part 4 definitely did have sneak disses to Sean too
Who’s more jealous of Kendrick? Sean or Lupe?
And Sean and Ye did link up during the Donda era after Ye’s first drink champs interview
I had no idea be humble was a Big Sean diss😢
LOL Kanye isn't a true emcee but Drake is? LOL. Drake's entire form of delivery was stolen from Big Sean.
@@andinetrbruce1213 I agree with you. However, it’s not hard for just about any rapper to be a truer MC than a Producer who rarely ever writes. The talent in rapping is the writing. Kanye is always going to be a GOAT Producer, you can say he is your personal favorite rapper, or call him culturally impactful. But it’s disrespectful to put him above a rapper who writes his own bars. No matter how mediocre you think that rapper is.
@@LeonaHeart It has been a while since i saw this video and what i was actually responding to. If i remember correctly, he said something about Kanye not being an emcee but when he listed who he believed was he included Drake in it. Of course Kanye is a producer, and DJs and producers usually have someone else write their bars. That is an old practice, and no one really judges them on it. But Drake has entire teams of ghostwriters and takes half an album from people and makes it his. I don't see the logic in saying that Kanye isn't an emcee while Drake is.
@@andinetrbruce1213 I have no idea what we are even disagreeing about at this point. Lol! I think it’s the definition of an Emcee. An Emcee WRITES. It’s impossible to call Kanye or Dr. Dre an Emcee. Drake is not considered an Emcee by most people anymore. But is More of one than Kanye, he has written many songs for Kanye, Wayne, Alicia Keys, Beyoncé, etc. Drake has the ability to be an Emcee but cares more about fast output of music to stay #1, which is practically impossible to do if you write all your bars by yourself. I am only a casual Drake fan and won’t be defending any of his unethical behavior that Kanye also does too. Kanye Just makes sure he steals from his own artist (Big Sean, etc) so they are less likely to sue or tell. He owed Sean $6 million, Sean took a settlement for less to prevent taking him to court. He could afford to pay him, that was a power trip. He also had Sean and all his artists writing for him and was not always crediting them. He didn’t credit Drake right away either. Kendrick is my favorite male rapper btw.
Ill be real, the kendrick verse delivery was smooth lol
Big Sean was talking about Ariana Grande
I personally believe Big Sean's disses were made interchangeable, meaning it could be for Kendrick or Kanye. Big Sean's smoke is for whoever responds back first. I dont like how he throws stones and then hides his hands. He's a man. Say everything with your chest!
He admitted that he was talking about Kanye. 😂
Dark Sky Paradise DOES exist, FYI
People are reaching with the Kendrick stuff. I dont think Seans ever had issues with Kendrick, but i think Kendricks had issues with Sean. According to Sean, Top from TDE says Kendrick just had bad people in his ear.
REACHING?? lmao. Go listen to "Me, myself and I" and "No more interviews". Even with what we're getting recently, I wouldn't be surprised if those are disses towards Kendrick, he always does this "nahh I'm not dissing him, I'm dissing another guy which I'm not gonna say his name" bs
@@arseeoliveira6934 Kendrick isn't even the most prominent rapper known for skits and fast rapping. As Big Sean said in his interview with Joe Budden, that would apply more to rappers like Eminem or Logic but people just said Kendrick's name cause it fit a narrative.
@@fromthehills814 have Logic and Eminem been dubbed as the "savior" of rap as well?
@@arseeoliveira6934 Token, NF, any fast rapping Caucasoid inspired by Eminem has been called the "Saviour" of rap. Maybe not Logic, but read through any fast rappers comment section.
Sean can go vs Drake and Cole but he'll lose against Kendrick. Sean should definitely stay in his lane. I don't wanna see him quit or get clowned on bc I like him a lot. Have since Mercy.
Hell lose against all all 3
@@purgatoryprincenah he can definitely go against drake & Cole 100%
Speaking of Wale, what's up with him... I guess he fell off????
Sean also goes at ye in Benny the butcher’s song with Wayne also. Like 2 years ago maybe??
I hope it’s not that serious with Big Sean and Kendrick. F Kanye. But Big Sean’s talent is necessary
3:34 - He dropped it next day 😂😂 the tweet from 2013 . Stop spreading lies& get your facts straight damn bro
The only people that thought he was dissing Kendrick were Drake fans.
@@Zenkaijuice05 Not True. Lol. The vast majority of Hip Hop fans know he and anyone who mentions “the savior of rap” in any way is talking about Kendrick. On that bar he needs to stop it. Lol. Other bars maybe not. But he will never convince any Kendrick fan or hip hop fan who is very familiar with Kendrick that that wasn’t about him. Lol.
I cannot take a person that say "b word" "a word" bro if you gone break down rap songs just say the cuss word, just don't say the N word or the F words (so you don't get banned or flagged)
man big sean better chill out we been off him pusha gone cook that boi ye gave pusha his paperwork yall think push aint on his side dont be dumb sean did too much
@@romaretaylor9953 do yo homework pusha and ye good foo go look at the ye download video sleep3r
Big sean and j cole back paddle all the time 😂
Big Sean & Kendrick are cool now so no need to talk about the past. Any disses from Sean is towards Kanye.
Big Sean has bad timing
I like Big Sean but how the hell is he calling Kendrick a home wrecker when he cheated on Jhené with Ariana back in 2019? Or cheating with Ariana on his ex-fiancé.
I say Kenny and pusha T should do a album dissing drake and Sean and see what these fools do
I don't think Push would diss Sean or be a part in that. They know each other and have no beef as far as I know.
Drake beat big sean in a battle 😂 you funny..... Drake wont even beat jid in a battle
"rappers like to throw rocks, then try and hide your hand...but say my name and i promise you will see candy man"
I love Detroit as a city but could never take Sean serious. I grew up with his era of music but he's always reminded me of Macklemore even though Sean's at least in my rotation occasionally while Macklemore's not. I just keep coming back to never being able to take him seriously, similar to some problems i have with Aubrey post-Scorpion. Blacklemore, if you will
This post is reaching
I think you have no idea what a home wrecker is. Kendrick was not thirsting for beef, drake has been subbing him in 11 of his last 17 projects. You reaching.
This is why not everyone shud do videos on hip hop or anything that they don't specialize or have history in.
90% of those stuff against Kendrick, SOUNDS against Drake.
I thought the same
I don’t know what it is specifically, but something about Big Sean’s face gives me uncanny valley vibes haha
It sounds like you’re ignoring some obvious Drake disses in some of these subs. It is my belief that he has dissed everyone who you would consider a top rapper.
Lol what's really funny is that Sean was under kanye who was afraid to keep nickis verse on monster.
Sean kicked Dot out of his house… sigh. Not like us
I dont think Big Sean is as miserable as Chance and Walle
Ass Ass Ass Ass😂😂😂
@@LBChill88 “where’s my tombstone?” 😂
A homewrecker is not a married person who cheats. A homewrecker is someone who has an affair with someone who’s married and destroys their family.
That was a reach
This whole video is off Premis, Sean has a classic in Darksky Paradise. And doesn't walk nothing back. When Kendrick was going at him, he gave him all the smoke. Far more than Drake did. But Kendrick went at who he was trying to get the whole time. The control verse was pretty much was what catapulted Kendrick. That's when Good Kid Mad city took off and went platinum. Because on the remix of don't kill my vibe is the best verse of that year. This vid mentioned that Detroit Mixtape is a classic. The truth is hall of fame should've been that but Kanye F'd him out of that and the Control not making the album. Sean always knows how to set the internet on fire before he releases his albums. Don't get that he walking back statements shit. Lacking confidence, do U MFs listen to music or just read head lines?
Sean is way better than Kendrick bar for bar please stop this…
Speed rapin refers to Em, I'm telling you!
I know we've all been down on Cole since the apology, but putting him on the same tier as Tyler the creator and the others you mentioned, while also saying big Sean, Wale, and Chance could've reached that level, is crazy to the point of being almost disrespectful!!
@@WarrenF19 nah Cole on another level of course - I was saying if Wale Sean and Chance kept on the trajectory they were on in the mid-late 2010s, they could be at the top of the game today. I don’t think you remember Wale’s Seinfeld tapes or Acid Rap if you don’t think they could’ve been A or B tier rappers today if they kept dropping projects like that consistently.
Why you shitting on wale Sean and chance?!?
@@romaretaylor9953 because they’re trash
@@rapaholiczi thought chance was going to to be hiphop savior after ultralightbeam. the big day was such a bomb that it completely wiped our memories of Coloring Book & Acid Rap 😭😭😭
@@TenshinhanIsKingfuck no😂 yall new fans kill me
I remember hearing control and thinking it was Kendrick’s song 😂I still do + he dissed Sean on his own song ^
Control wasn’t a diss if he dissed all those guys none of them Would be cool with him including cole
Famously faithful music guy big sean who definitely didn't cheat on then fiancé Naya Rivera with Ariana Grande 💀💀
Dark sky paradise a classic
I feel like some bars could also be aimed at Drake especially the homewrecker bar since Kendrick has cheated before he clearly felt some type of way about it and regrets it. Drake has never felt bad about any of his homewrecking actions and sometimes even uses it as a way to bolster his reputation
That Kendrick verse on control was really over rated at the time I thought Electronica had the best verse as a kid . Then I always liked Sean Verse too
But honestly they all went crazy on that song
The only reason they say that is cause Kendrick was name dropping cause Sean dead held his own
Jay definitely had the best verse
As a major Kendrick fan, I agree very much. Lupe hates on Kendrick a lot, but I do agree with him when he said that a lot of Kenny’s bars on Control were weird! Lol. Take out the name drops and. It’s a weird verse. Lol. Kendrick is my favorite rapper period, But I think Sean had the best verse.
YES, THIS thank you. I always thought Sean's verse was the best too. He has a unique cleverness to his wordplay.
Petty. You can't argue about who is "best". It's who is your favorite. It's an opinion not a fact therefore it can't be debated accurately. This is exhausting.
What a disappointing way to finish a nice video! Cole in the same tier as Sean, Tyler and who? Ass!
I liked the video because he said to like the video if he's a better rapper than Kendrick.
2:12 I love Ye fans they ride for him
I love Bounce Back
I don’t think you are reaching on the home-wrecker bars
dark sky paradise is a classic you hating.
Look at all these kendrick glaze fans that came out of nowhere xD where were yall before the beef?? kdot don't want yall!!
Sean had the best verse on control😤
He wasn't no slouch that's fs. I feel like people downplay him too much