Mesa/Boogie Mark IV Rev. B
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- Опубліковано 22 лис 2020
- It was inevitable wasn't it?
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Serious question for you all - should I get a rackmount kit for this and complete the rack of doom?
If you want to be hated by me...yes You should!!!! :)
A wonderfull thing that the IVs have is (I really dont know if Mesa intended to do that) that when you are controlling it with the external switching jacks (Im using a Joyo Pxl Pro with 4 triggers) you can entirely bypass the preamp and go straight to the power amp. That way you can use any preamp you want.
Yes, imagine that rack of doom with that IV and that studio preamp. You gonna get a FIVE channel Mark 😎😎
Does a bear crap in the woods? 😂
Yes
No no
Ah, rhy 2 never gets enough love. That channel pushed on the class A power section with some nice el34's can cop a very convincing classic marshall tone. Congrats man!👍
After being away from guitar playing for six months due to mental health issues and in general going through the murkiest waters I've seen, I'm now starting to get back into it. And let me tell you Leon, your videos are for me like coming home. These videos remind me of everything that's awesome about playing guitar. I've been a subscriber since way back when you had less than 5k subs, and I'm blown away on how your channel has (quite deservingly!) exploded in size. Congrats on the success and thanks for the awesome content!
Great to have you back mate, and I hope you're doing better. Rediscovering the joy in something like guitar can be every bit as powerful as discovering it for the first time.
My favorite Mesa amp for sure! It has a kind of a mix between modern and vintage tone. Beautiful!
Congrats Leon! She was waiting for you...loved the vid and tour of your guitars into that monster of an amp. That Paul with the P90’s into the MK IV has some delicious crunch 😍
God I love the Mark series amps. My Mark V is by far my favourite amp I've ever owned. Tight as hell and super versatile.
I've owned a Mark IVa and then Mark IVb years ago. Used them for Death Metal and never needed a boost, just a gate! The tone differences between them I chocked up to different tubes. I had to sell them for college money, and this video is giving me some serious GAS for one.
Got my mark 4 arriving on Monday. Cannot wait.
I’m getting a Mark IV Rev A combo in a few weeks and I’ve had all your Mark IV videos playing on repeat pretty much for the last 4 days haha.
Congrats!!!! best amps ever
Man those gritty tones you got out of rhy1 were really surprisingly. So dynamic and alive.... dunno why I never realised the MKIV was capable of those type of tones. Great job.
So glad I watched this today; such tasty guitar tones/playing. 🤘🏻
I love everything about your playing...
Really cool crunch tones on the rhythm one channel! Especially the P90 guitar, wow!
The sound of the lead channel with the strat is just incredible. That was my favorite from this video
It really loves the single coils hey
This amp is seriously SO effin impressive. I also watched Plague Scythe Studios video on it (where he mentions Leon) and I had no idea how versatile yet distinguished this is. Sick playing Leon! 🤘
It's like the jack of all trades, master of all. Incredible design
@@LeonTodd master of all? Is it your #1? Your desert island amp?
Congratulations dude killer amp!Stereo effects loop sounds like a winner to me!🤘Rock on
WHOA!!! like an epic chorus!!! 07:00 Love your chops man!!! Great playing Leon!!!
I knew it! You were trying to throw everyone off with your Friday Q&A clean tones.
You know me too well!
@@LeonTodd Are we going to get an Axe-Fx III vs the real deal video?
knew you would leon!!! i've had mine for about 6 months now, absolutely love it!!! keep it in head form they look bad-ass!!!
try the pentode setting w tweed power, if you haven't already...pretty lush!!! great content!!!
Love your videos and your chops, and especially your Mark IV jamming! It's a nice little confirmation that, yep, it's the best amp ever. I bought my first in '99, sold it in an exceptionally bad series of decision making, and this year bought another because it's the tone I always hear in my head and can't get with anything else.
I love that it can do so many things so well. It's an amazing platform for someone to find THEIR sound.
Glad you love it and it sounds killer :)
Happy that it went to an amazing new home!!
Dream come true!
I watched your video review many many times up until the day I went to go pick my Mark IV up. Thanks for the top notch content brother.
My absolute pleasure mate!
My favourite amp ever! Owned on for years until last year. Sold the wide combo rev.B, mesa 6l6 and v30 cone and bought an antelope audio interface with the money. Best money spent for both machines.
The ml sound lab ml5 is an absolutely beast that simulates the mark tones so perfectly that I almost cried and bought it as soon as possible to replace the best tone I ever had
I have the mark iv combo with the 12 inch EV Black Shadow speaker. I love that thing. So versatile.
I've got one of these and it really does record super well.
Shoutouts on SRV. Still looking forward to that Mark V episode ;) The EQ at early gain stage is great. I'd rather take that and an EQ pedal in the loop than EQ at the end of the amp, just because it changes the character so interestingly in amps. That old Fender/Marshall vibe where you can use the eq as more distortion. With the proper guitar (and assuming the designer set the amp's basic tone right), just turn everything up to 10 and enjoy.
Great video Leon!! I love Mesa boogie amps. The new badlander seems really interesting as well. Mesa boogie are, in my opinion, the best amps for high gain.
Sooooo keen to try one. How are you going these days man?
@@LeonTodd I'm doing good mate! Working my way through covers and learning new songs. Keeping dem guitar chops up lol
Motivated me to put my Mark IV Combo back in the rotation. Lots of tone in that amp.
Glad you finally grabbed one Leon; I knew from how smitten you were from your last video, it was only a matter of time. The mk4 will always be one of my favourites ever. I am glad to say my mk5 90watt scratches that itch perfectly. :)
I wonder how long until we're all gassing for a Mesa MK VI :P
@@LeonToddwell well well
I was thoroughly entertained for 23 minutes. Thanks Bro ;)
I already have a Mark V but this is making me wanna pull the trigger on a IV, I cant lie. Congrats on the amp!
getting cold sweats imagining the two run in stereo
What you were doing at 15:30 was rockin'.
Very cool. Your happy place is also my happy place with gain. 🤣😂😉
That thing sounds epic man. Very cool.
All your hard work has paid off and it's just too cool.
Would love to hear this amp a/I'd against your Soldano 50 and or maybe your ADA 1 tones.
By the way it sounds no better than your FM3 if you ask me. Modellers have arrived.
That green PRS with the JB sounded really good fo me thru that amp. All of the guitars did, but it seems to me that the Green PRS really translated well as did the LP with Martin Snith Pickups. Both of those sounded great to me especially sir.
Hope you have fun with it.
Be safe and hope you and family and friends are well my friend.
THIS MADE MY DAY.... THANKS A MILLION !!!!!!!!!
Thanks mate!
I really do enjoy your video's. Keep them coming...
Congratulations! Mark IV is favourite too. Never gonna sell it :D
Love the vids mate. Had one of these for 30years and a later version like yours. Try dropping the volumes down in the "mixer" and knocking up the main volume... changes the dynamic immensely. PLUS, if you can get a CFX4 from Axess Electronics you can midi it up perfectly... they went out out of business a few years ago with the owner now working for boogie, but FABULOUS kit. They occasionally pop up on eBay and week worth the money.
Congratulations!
Thank you!
You got it!!! Congratulations ;) Sad to don't have one but happy because i've got the studio preamp
I've got a comparison vid coming real soon!
consider turning the amp on standby when changing to triode/pentode and simulclass/class A switches for more safety of the transformer, caps and tube life expand!killer playing as always!
Have the combo. Killer amp! Like your playing!!! Rock on!
Thankyou! What speaker in the combo?
@@LeonTodd Electrovoice Black Shadow! Sounds really good to me! (Combo Is the long version)
sounds so sick dude
Thanks man! Mighty little beasts hey
It’s the amp I just come back to all the time. It’s not because it’s the best. I don’t think there is given the subjective nature but this amp just maintains my main thing
Oh yeah, waking up to some Boogie goodness! That amp is amazing, I want one. But you could have been playing thru the AX3 for all I know. The model is so super close that it's basically the sound of the channel, amp or model. Let it roll! 👍
Not when you’re in the room and playing the amp on a 4x12. I tried to get the FM3 to sound exactly like the amp through the return FX loop. Close, but the amp always sounded better.
@@danyeo Interesting. Would be a good video for LT. Did you have the power amp modeling turned off in the FM3 global settings during that test? Unfortunately I don’t have a Mark IV to try here. I did take that same approach with my original 5150 and FM3 PVH 6160 amp block and that was amazingly close. Well, either way, enjoy that Mark IV, what matters is what sounds good to you! I want one now - either that or a JP2C. Oh no...GAS!
Well, you can get close with the Axe FX or the Kemper sound and even 'feel' wise, but the moment you play live and the other guitarists has a decent tube amp, you get lost in the mix... not a matter of volume mind you, it's just 'lost frequencies' I would guess...
Believe me, I've been on digital a journey for several years... It ended about 2 years ago when I finally bought the mesa quad to accompany my Mesa 2: 90. The 2:90 is a beast but I've used the Axe2 xl, the Kemper and a Helix LT, alas... Whenever my friend kicked in his trusty jcm900 (50 watt version) I would get lost... The best of all modelers for live use was the GSP 1101, but even then...
The Mesa Quad just ate the Marshall for lunch... so aggressive and deep, piano like bottom end...
Then, August 2019... I traded up for my holy grail: a Mark IVa.... Insanely good live!! I play in a 3 guitar band, the Mark IV just outclasses the jcm900 and the dual rectifier solo... It cured my GAS in a heartbeat! Best.Amp.Ever...
@@TijlCarrein Great story! Thanks for sharing. Well, looks like I have to pick up a Mark IV, V or JP2C! Appreciate both sets of feedback! 👍
Best guitar tube amp ever created !!! Write in stone !
those vocals remind me of karnivool, sick playing as always mr leon.
The name of the song is?...
Thanks Fazeel! Sounds Awake is one of my favourite albums ever.
Ruth, the song is called Shine
Super, díky Lu
Damn you.. I say that with love. Bravo!
Huge Congratulations bro! Love the way the boogies sound, and I loved the Shine solo! That was the highlight of the show for me :) Would love to be able to jam on one of these someday. Sound huge and incredible.
I have a mark iv rev a myself they are really killer amps that can do almost anything.
Me too. Love it.
Thanks man... just put those settings into the Axe FX 3 , sounds great. Not an amp i usually go to so nice to know! Cheers 🤘
The model in the Axe-Fx is so spot on it's scary. That's the main model I use live.
Great tones Leon. Certainly a versatile amp. I had the wide body version before I sold it to get my JP2C. How did you record it? Mic'd cabs? Load box?
why the tape over the LP logo? creamy tones, love it. Still working on dialing my Mark V in. I've had it for 4 years...lol. I know it's in there somewhere!!!
Dammit!! You stole my Nuetron Star line from the 90s. 1st time I helped a friends band move their 2 Boogies single 12" Mark 3 combos, it was the 1st words that lept right out of my mouth. Loved the huge sound of them & the band loved them because that & the compact size to fit in the combi van.
Hahaha yes! Tonal density off the charts
@@LeonTodd I'll say, I watched a guy with his week old Mark IV wheeling it on the road into a gig on top of his quad, saying he needs to buy a roadcase for it. When suddenly he hits a pothole, quad stops, head comes flying off hits ground on it's side. Screams of horror, tears, swearing like you'd never heard. Even the neighbours to the venue were sympathetic. Got it inside, box was looking sad & lopsided. A few tubes had fallen out, reseated them in hopefully the right order. Fired it up 🤞🤞, did that headline gig & a week supporting a major overseas act held together with 2 rolls of gaffer tape & hope till he got it serviced. Had a new repaired or replacement box. Along with the heaviest mofo roadcase you'd ever seen.
Also I'd been pestering him to set it to Tweed power for the smaller venues they played at because he was killing people in the back row, & the sound guy was cutting him out of the FOH mix. Stubbornly he said he'd paid for all the power, he was gonna use it. After his accident he came of stage saying the amp had never sounded better. So started writing down settings, found he'd knocked the Tweed switch. 🤣🤣 yeah what does a lighting guy know? 🤣🤣 Still my Holy Grail amp I'd ever wanted. Perhaps I'll be able to afford the Mark 7 when it ever comes out. 🤘🤘
9:03 the head stock tip of the guitar was freaking me out in the second camera thought it was someone messing with your knobs
Hey Leon - I 💯 share your love of the mk iv. V's and iiis good, but there's magic sauce in the IV! Have you experimented with getting the 'class A' setting on the mk iv in the fm3 model? (Or I guess class A power sections in general?). I love rhythm 2 in class A a bit more flat out (in real life) and was wondering if you'd got that sound in the axe FX?
Yeahh!!! Finally entered the Mark family at last!! Welcome!! I have the Rev A, the differences are basic that A has 2 loops as the B has 1 in stereo and you also can footswitch the reverb (on the A you cant)
The trick with them is to use the bright pull in the lead with low volumes and the harmonics with single coils/weaker pu's. I only use it with my Fender strat.
Yes. Another great episode Leon!! 😎
That makes heaps of sense - noodling with the harmonics mode on my strat atm and it's tasty.
P-90s sounded great!!
Nice. I'm planning to make a trip to get one of these next week. I have a Mark V, but since I picked up a JP-2C, it's been neglected. I prefer that more raw sound of the Mark IV. I was looking at a head, but then a bubinga and wicker combo came up for $500 less, so I might go with that, as it's just for home use.
Nice - what speaker is in the combo?
@@LeonTodd Whoops. Thought I replied to this. It's a Black Shadow. I'm going to try picking it up this weekend. It's a 12 hour round trip on transit. Why do I do this to myself?
How does Leon manage to overdrive its Rhythm 1 channel like this? The sound is amazing! My Mark 4 can't do this! Is it because of his pickups or is he overdriving the power amplifier ??? Greetings Markus
Nice acquisition! Like the other Mk series (I owned a Mk 3), it does still need the graphic. Shot Down in Flames sounded good. Do you have an SG? Have a good day :)
Welcome to the Mark IV family
It's an honor and a privilege!
Dear Leon, I hope you know how important are your videos/demos/tones/explanations, I´ll dig a lot this video to look for that kinda tone with my humble rig, I know that amp choose me long time ago (or the mark IIC+)...but they cannot find me yet!!! :( Thanks man
One question, have you tried it with Mesa Cab? do you think there will be too much tone difference?
Thankyou my man! Soon it shall find you!
Ok. My wallet is crying Leon, thank you. Oh! And we need your take on the new Mesa Rectifier Badlander hahaha
A rack mount badlander and a rack mount mark would be sooooo sick together :p
for me the key to Rhythm 2 is running the treble low and the presence high instead.
With a strat try the lead channel with the GEQ disabled
You did a thing! I’ve got a wide body combo Mark IV and it’s the only gear I own that I would under no circumstances get rid of. To the grave
Awesome video ! Are you going to do a video on the new mark VII ?
I'd love, I have no idea when they're making it down to Australia though
@Leon Todd I'm really digging the cab Sims for each channel.. I've finally saved up enough to get about any head I want but I'm still on the fence on what to get . My favorite sounding amp is the soldano slo but it don't have that many features to demand the price tag they are asking . I thought about a synergy system , I just don't see them holding much value in the future.
Honestly, that's kinda what I was hoping to hear, that it's not a deal breaker not having the stereo loop with the revision B. Had to make a 6 hour round trip drive just to find my mark iv A combo that's pretty beat up for the amount of money I could scrounge up at the time. Still sounds kick ass though. The cosmetics dont matter that much to me.
If you were on r2, how would you use the eq to cut through a mix in a band situation? Would you raise the 2200 slider up?
I normally have it in V setting.
Love Mk series amps..... I still don't know why I never saw any back in the 80's 90's at Aussie gigs.
"If it's not a marshall it must be shit aye!"
@@LeonTodd haha nail... head
Mine has the harmonics/ mid gain on the front
Hi Leon! I hope I'm not too late on this video, I want you to see this comment. About a year ago you did a "5 Minute Tones" video on John Sykes/Whitesnake 1987 album for the AxeFx. I was wondering if you could do another soon? I read a comment from Bob Rock about that tone. Sykes used TWO Mesa Mark IIIs in stereo (I'm sure any Mark series would work), with a slight delay on one of the amps to make it sound thicker. Would there be a way to replicate this in the AxeFx? Especially that slight delay/doubling/thickening effect that Bob Rock was talking about. It would be a cool video to do as well.
R2 channel - the much over looked but amazing sounding.Same as the MKIII
How does this Rev b compare to the one you borrowed at the start of the year?
Hey Leon, I have an opportunity to buy this amp, but it operates on US voltage so I'd need an external transformer. Do you think that it makes a difference in sound? Should I just wait for the 230V option to pop up on the used market. Mark IV heads are quite rare in Poland and I don't want a combo so I think I might jump on that one.
I've got a bunch of gear with US power that I run off step down transformers - all sound and work great!
I got this exact same head !!! Traded it for a the MKV head i had , never want another amp seriously! Plus we had the chance to record an EP with it. Did you have a chance to try the Mark VII ??
Lol I knew when you borrowed one that it was only a matter of time. Good job holding out this long...
I really want to see you put a jp2c thru its paces
The train graphic EQ 's look so fun on the JP2C
Leon I absolutely love all of your videos, you’re such a cool genuine guy and monster player. Would you ever consider selling this Boogie IV??? Let me know brother ✌️
Is the Axe Fx model close to it? As tweakable?
Wait. It has a stereo effects loop?!
Leon your so handsome :3
Thanks for the video, I want Mesa! I would love one to pair with my Randal RH150g3+ and Ormsby sx7 in a stereo set up but I think I ought to be reasonable and get an AxeFX first.
The sx7 with the Axe is a winning combo!
HEY LEON .... Listening to you play this is REDICULOUSLY ENJOYABLE !!!!!! CHEERS !!!!!!! MARK IV FUCKING RULES... ( Are you going to get your hands on a BADLANDER by chance ???? ) LOVE LOVE LOVE YOUR CHANNEL !!!!!!
Amazing sounding amp!!!! Are these still in production? Love your videos
They make the Mark V now, in a few different formats
Have you played the V?
Last year of production for Mark IV is 2008.
Unsolicited emails like that are great, one just dropped an OR100 into my lap. lol
I have the combo. Its freaking loud. Is this the unknown amp from the other day ?
Indeed!
Hi Leon, can you answer on friday, why Mark IV and not Mark V. I wanna get one Boogie and I can buy II, IV and V. Do why did you choose IV?
My 2¢: early to recent marks go from purity to flexibility. ii gives one amazing sound at a time. V gives you any 3 sounds reasonably well. IV is the middle ground. Pretty darn awesome. Pretty darn flexible
I swore I'd never sell my B but realised its limitations eventually. Great to have as one of your amps but not ideal as the only one.
What did you end up replacing it with?
@@LeonTodd I have two Laney IRT Studio rack mount amps, a Laney L5T 1 x 12 combo and a Laney L20T 2 X 12 combo. I sold the Mesa for £1000 which is what I paid for it so great at holding their value. I bought all 4 Laney amps over the following 2 years and had change too. Both the L5T and the L20T I had to repair which I did myself. I have an AXEFXIII which you have helped me immensely with. My Mark IV was a combo with the Black Shadow EV speaker. I wasn't gigging it which was the main reason for letting it go. It was too loud and I was trying multiple ways to reduce the volume, different power valves etc. I even tried 6V6'S. The preamp always sounded amazing but you get the real hair on the back of your neck feeling when you had the master around 4. Only ever experienced that a handful of times. Maybe a variac or isolation cab was the way to go. I do miss it. I didn't think I would ever part with it. Those amps have a character and a lovely smell too.
Dude, can you come over and dial in my JP-2C? This sounds INCREDIBLE!
JP2C you say.... I'll be right over :D
...is that a studio preamp in the rack behind you? + mod or stock if so?
Well spotted! That's stock, sounds great into the loop of the Mark.
Hi,I have long head b version.These amps become VERY personal..
Yes they do!
Hi Leon! It's EL34 or 6L6 ?
0:20 - I called it in your earlier MkIV video.... :)
1:17 - Nature abhors a surplus....
4:40 - ish - the Harmonics setting has a nice tightness to it. A footswitch to switch it would be fun....
7:45 - I really like the green PRS....
9:32 - nice. Gotta get me a P90 guitar together....
15:40 - you really need a Gretsch to fully nail the Malcolm Young sound, but yhat LP is not far off....
So here is a question for you guys: would you trade a 90 watt mk5 for a mk4?
As a Mark IV owner I can only talk about the IV. I like that the Lead Channel has the lead gain, lead voicing, and pull fat. Offers a lot of options that the Mark V just doesn't have. I love the clean channel and also the R2 is really cool low gain/tweedy sounds. Also I noticed the IV has a radically different feel to the V that is a bit spongy *I used to own a Mark 5:35*. Hope that helps.
Hi. Whats the year of your MK 4 amp ? Thanks
Not sure
What’s the riffs?? from 7:48 awesome tune man!!
That's "He Man Woman Hater" by Extreme. Nuno rules!
GAS is real and so is the desire to get one of those...i watched you pine for one...then get one and be eminently fullfilled...so had to do it too...FINALLY GOT MINE (IVB combo with Black Shadow...but really just hook it up to my TC with stereo fed to Marshall 1960A and Mark V pushing the 1960 B off Satellite feed...true stereo baby!!!!!) GAS tank FILLED !!!! BEST AMP EVER !!!!!!!
Congrats!!!!
Thanks...it really is all that and a bag of chips isnt it?@@LeonTodd
Is it me or the previous mark IV that you demoed sounded more mean? That one was a rev A? Nevertheless great video!
I think that one was a Rev A. There's definitely a few differences between the way they sound, but then again - different day, different guitars, different mic combo. All adds up.
Hey Leon, congrats on the acquisition! If you're interested, I have a spare S-Gear 2 license for mac that I can send to you. I've tried all emulators / modelers but the wayfarer model in S-gear is thé best Mark IV emulator (imho). I know you like ReAxis, but s-gear is on another level. It's create by Mike Scuffham (designer of the Marshall JMP1 tube preamp). Check it out.
IMO you can get better Thrash tones from the B, 🤘🏼
I agree, only played an A once for about a half hour. Bought a B online because it was a great price and I was blown away. I’ve had it many years but Lamb of God Ashes of the Wake was a huge reason I wanted to have it.