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A note on bird's and Sansa: Margaery also asks Sansa if she has any hawking ability and she says yes. I don't remember the specifics, but I thought that was pretty cool
I was watching Robert and LML vids before I even actually watched an episode of Game of Thrones or picked up the ASOIAF books - the sheer amount of world building, the richness of the lore and particularly the passion of Robert and others is what made me a fan, when previously all I wanted was to UA-cam any scenes with dragons and didn’t give a damn about anything else 😂😭 going to try my hardest to catch the next live!!!
That's how I am with Elden Ring lore. Never played it and have always sucked at Fromsoft games so might never learn the lore from playing. I still have no idea what it's about but there are layers I like to hear discussed while falling asleep.
The hair King Robert! You are such a smart man, but kind too, which is a wonderful combination. I enjoy your videos.
Your narrations are a balm to my soul
I would love to see a series of videos on the cultures of westeros and how they changed over time
Most people see the house of York as the real life version of house stark. I get it;
One of the most powerful northern houses that eventually claims the throne of England.
But I think that the House of Bamburgh is a better contender. Even though it pretty much became extinct after the harrying of the North.
Like house stark, it is a house descended from ancient warrior-kings, like Athelfrith, who was the first to rule both Bernicia and Deira, and Ida the firebrand, who captured Bamburgh when the Welsh still ruled in the Old North.
Great discussion Robert, always down to discuss one of my favorites Houses , House Stark. As a House they have been integral to the narrative / its history in so many ways for such a long time and over that time we have seen them transition from a harsh ruthless conquering regime to a seemingly noble, fair honorable house. I do think the "There always must be a Stark in Winterfell" concept has become a useful bit of political propaganda over the millennia for the Starks but I definitely think there is a higher magical purpose for this as well - the Last Hero was likely a Stark , possibly the first Other was a Stark also , as was the books' Night's King most likely , Winterfell could have been where the first Battle for the Dawn took place , the founder of the House started building the Wall to help keep the Others on the other side of it , etc. The Starks certainly seem connected to the Others , to the point that if the broad strokes of the books' Night's King are true there could very well be actual Others with Stark blood around in the current narrative. The CotF / Weirwoods definitely seem to want to make sure a Stark is in place at WF to oppose the Others , that Winterfell is kept up as the first line of defense if the Wall is breached and of course the Crypts there must be kept intact and used for the conflict against the Others , as I do agree with Robert's Horn of Winter theory.
Great stream Robert , that absolutely flew by , always great to discuss the Starks and their history ; of which there have been so many interesting Starks past and present that I thoroughly enjoy analyzing and learning more about. The depth and complexity of just one House is a testament to the level of vast rich world building and history GRRM has provided for us in the narrative to really give the reader such an immersive experience. As for the Starks in the current ASoIaF narrative , some of which are up there with my favorite characters and most of all of the remaining ones will likely play vital roles in the books' endgame.
In the final scene of the 2002 animation Ice Age , the squirrel type creature is frozen in an iceberg with the acorn also there , the iceberg lands on an island and begins to thaw and the creature pops out and goes after acorn and one falls from a tree that is huge and the creature is hugging the nut when the ground begins to crack and he looks up and sees a volcano erupting on the island,,,, ice and fire
the fur on the house stark sigil looks like dragon scales
that is more a show only thing with the sigil , the book Stark sigil does not look all that similar to the show one , the book version is less of a close up of a running grey direwolf.
Why DID Ned take Howland Reed with him to the Tower of Joy? Ned knew he would encounter formidable swordsmen protecting Lyanna and OBVIOUSLY Howland had none of those talents. Did Bloodraven send Howland and Howland convinced Ned to bring him along? Was Howland directed by Bloodraven to ensure Ned's survival even including stabbing the Sword of the Morning in the back--so to speak? Pretty dishonorable unless there was a bigger more important goal--Jon Snow.
I really don't buy the timeline of the older dynasties/kingdoms in Westeros... The Starks ruled in the north for *5000* years?? That seems extremely unlikely. In the real world, no nation has ever lasted for more than a millennium or two. The idea that a single nation, LED BY A SINGLE FAMILY, has ruled the north for 5000 years is beyond absurd.
I have to believe that this part of the story is just a legend - a story that's told in the north to make the Starks seem older and more legitimate. It can't be true, or the world of ice and fire is a lot less plausible than it usually tries to appear.
I'm slightly obsessed with House Stark...great vid!
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Simply loving this vid. Thank you. Great work!
Winterfell statues are like Qin Dynasty Terracotta Warriors an army for the afterlife, ready to battle the reanimated wights.
Mummy 3 went hard
Still watching after all these years!
Just got a Auxiliary cord for the car, now I can listen while driving.
Atta girl!
Aux cord‽ What is this, 2005?
@@TGJoeyT when your car is a 2007, I guess it can feel like 2005!
@@ellen9575 fair enough. AUX on!
Whoop whoop 🙌🏾
I can't believe I missed another one. Ugh. Well, here I am. Better late than never!
Cheers, mate! I LOVE the idea of getting a Benjen POV - and a video on this! Thanks for all your hard work; I keep missing the livestreams lately. 😭 @in deep geek you are the BEST! ✨
What do you think of Tony Teflon’s theory that giants in the earth are the 79 sentinels buried alive into the walls are the ones that will be awoken?
My thoughts about Ned and his forbearance in fighting in tournaments was in relation to his defeat of Arthur Dayne. He tells Jaime that he doesn't fight because he doesn't want his opponents to see what his strengths and weaknesses are if he faces them on a battlefield. I think that this is only half true. Arthur Dayne is accepted as one of the best fighters in the realm (if not the best). Ned Stark defeated him and is thought that he therefore must be better than Arthur. I think that the show hints that what happens at the Tower of Joy was that Ned did not defeat Arthur through his martial prowess (whether it's from Howland like the show or other methods will have to wait for GRRM to let us know). If the world sees that Ned's fighting skill is not as good as Arthur's (which I think is shown when Jamie attacks Ned's party in King's Landing), then they may look deeper into what happened at the Tower of Joy and how someone with Ned's skill defeated Arthur. This could cause people to find out about Lyanna's secret (Jon). The events at the Tower of Joy led to Ned sacrificing his honor to protect Jon, the deep feeling of regret that we get from Ned during his P.O.V.'s makes me wonder if his shame is more than letting the world think that he has a bastard and something to do with what happened to Arthur.
Hey Robert, thank you for all your work. Currently on reread 2 of a song of ice and fire and your videos are perfect listening for low times and hangover days. Keep up the great work!
Great final question, and he gave the answer that popped into my head as well!
If the Stark House saying "Winter is Coming" and "there must always be a Stark in Winterfell" are tied in with the Others...why is there NOT tradition of the stories of the Long Night repeated around the fires at Winterfell? Are the words meaningless with the meaning lost in the past?
“The North Remembers”
You don’t know you’ve forgotten something until after it’s gone. I think it’s a bit like traditions like ‘touch wood’ which we still do but no one remembers why.
I was certain that Robert was based before watching this. Hearing him say "Glory, Glory Man United" confirms it.
Been thinking lately that the Horn of Winter was deliberately left in the hands of the King Beyond the Wall after the defeat of Night’s King. The idea being that the temptation to use its speculated power to raise an army of dead Starks, was maybe too dangerous to be left to the King of Winter alone. What if some desperate or tyrannical descendants decided to use the Horn to fight mortal enemies, or wage a war of conquest? Terrible possibilities on their own but compounded by risking the loss of their greatest safeguard against the Others. So the King Beyond the Wall keeps the Horn, and since the Wildlings would be the first to know if the Others become a threat again they could deliver it to the Wall (which would be opened to them) and so on to the King of Winter.
The King Beyond the Wall knows the power of the Horn to “wake giants from the earth”, and that having possession of it would prompt the Watch to let its bearer (perhaps all the Wildlings?) through the Wall to the safety on the other side. But along the generations the threat doesn’t come back, Kings Beyond the Wall come and go, the Watch becomes more about fighting Wildlings than waiting for the return of the others. After thousands of years of bad blood the idea of the Horn as a weapon to deliver to the Starks becomes a weapon to fight them, and the idea of the Horn granting them a path through the Wall changes to tearing it down.
Late to this discussion as always, House Stark discussion could be the best stream ever!! 👍🏻👍🏻
If Lyanna was a warg, Brandon most certainly was. Perhaps the wolf's blood enhances the latent warging ability. Being more wild or "animalistic" would certainly strengthen your bond with animals.
On the question why are there no more Starks. There are and there were. They were split into few branches many times in the past. Karstarks, Greystarks.
Karsnarks
Is there any relation between dany using her loved one for bloodmagic (burning drogo), azor ahai (using his beloved wife for his sword) and the bloodstone emperor killing/sacrificing his beloved sister?
What about the karstarks who separated into a separated house but equal
I would love for Arya and nymeria to have like a spin off series of their adventures west of Westeros
Sailing off into the horizon and dying on the open sea? Sounds exhilarating!
I know I'm three years late but I just discovered IDG. I gotta say, my opinion, sounds horrible. I know Nymerias story is a development pitch for HBO. But I personally don't think it'll ever see light
Almost ALL the key characters are trying to answer the question, "Who am I?" Jon - Am I a bastard? Tyrion - Am I a worthless monster? Jamie - Am I just a Kingslayer and incestuous brother? Arya - Am I an assassin or a Stark?
I believe that GRRM has said that he will not introduce any new POVs, other than prologues and epilogues. So if Benjen is going to be a POV, then it seems he will have one chapter and die...
I might be wrong but I have theory that House Stark's origin will be explained throught Jon Snow being the sole Targaryen left in the story and eventually, the Stark familly will be reincarnated in the form of House Targaryen throught Jon Snow, becouse, it was said that the entire main story echoes the events of the Age of Heroes and that the timeline of the events are cyclical for which I belive that the entire Stark origin was told throught the POV chapters of Jon and Dany.
Jon will be a fire wight so no children will be coming off that line, and last of his name, ha!
@@summerstevens2547 that is in the TV Series, in the books however, we don't really know how Jon will be resurected, but I have an idea that The Wall, has also some kind of magic which preserves the human conditions even after death, and that idea I got from AFFC from Maester Aemon who said that the Wall preserves, which sugests that Jon's body might be frozen imeadiatly after his death which puts his extremities on hold until Mel ressurects him.
In Deep!
Do you think wargs could slip into a dragon? Specifically if they have Targaryen blood? Might just be wishful thinking on my part, but I’d love to see a pov of that
Once all these books are (hopefully) finished and Hoyae Stark is ruling an independent North, i really hope they've managed to expand their borders a bit before doing so. They get The Twins for all that the Freys did to them, maybe Theon ends up ruling what's left of the Iron Islands (unlikely) and decides to redeem himself by joining the North instead of the 6 kingdoms, and maybe The Sisters gets folded in as a result of all of Little fingers shenanigans with Sansa.
I can't help but feel the North would just get steem rolled in years to come if they don't end up with a significant navy.
Oooh yes, please! A historian would be fantastic
I'm pretty sure I've heard someone say that Ned broke tradition by giving Lyanna a statue in the crypts, but that's not true (if she married Rhaegar). She would have been a queen and thus worthy of having a statue made for her, I'd think.
I kind of felt that as ned looked up at the moment of beheading the birds flying over, bejen also has affinity with ravens.
I love your videos. I've been thinking about Ice being reforged into Widow's Wail and Oathkeeper. Why would Ned bring a ceremonial sword only good for executions all the way to King's Landing? This doesn't seem to make much sense since executions would not be his duty as Hand of the King. I would think he would leave it in Winterfell since it isn't a sword that you would fight with.
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“he who passes the sentence should swing the sword.”
Yeah, as the King’s Hand he probably wanted to be prepared to dispense justice the Stark way.
Lyanna could have been a warg, but she couldn't have been a warg WHILE jousting; otherwise her human body would have just gone limp and slipped off the saddle while her spirit inhabited the horse she was riding.
Might be possible that she didn't fully warg into a horse but shared a stronger bond with it, in the same way that we hear of Robb fighting as one with Greywind or we hear Jon talk about having a bond with ghost. Maybe?
@@ftg539 I think you're right.
The rougher Covid-19 look suits you better :)
Rougher?? Have you seen Brad Leone from Bon Appetit?? That dude's going caveman, Robert is the scholar/scientist of ASOIAF. P.S. love em both
I love the ATLAB reference! I've always loved Robert's content but now maybe a little more!!!
Damn it I missed the live!!
Will a huge sacrifice be required, to undo the magic that created the Others?
High Tower please! Great livestream!
Question:
If I remember correctly, the Manderly s at some point said something like " there are a lot of things about the old gods/religion most don't know, but we remember" and to that effect they also said " but we remember" talking about how the Starks gave them Manderly s people a home after they were driven out of "the South" and that's why they're so fiercely loyal to the Starks
And then, I think when Rob was alive and in the war of the five kings, the Manderly s starting secretly building lots of war ships...
A. Do you think the Manderly s remember more about the previous long night/ old religion than the Starks
B. Going on the suspicion that the Others can't cross water, will all the boats be used in the war against them
A Dance with Dragons - Davos III ( I was so HOPING Wyla's quote be in the show )
"Hush, child," said Lady Leona. "You heard your lord grandfather. Hush! You know nothing."
"I know about the promise," insisted the girl. "Maester Theomore, tell them! A thousand years before the Conquest, a promise was made, and oaths were sworn in the Wolf's Den before the old gods and the new. When we were sore beset and friendless, hounded from our homes and in peril of our lives, the wolves took us in and nourished us and protected us against our enemies. The city is built upon the land they gave us. In return we swore that we should always be their men. Stark men!"
Yesssssssss. That was it
Also there was one about hanging sacrifices in the trees?? Maybe it's was Lady Dustin
@@chelseaprater8821 This one ?
A Dance with Dragons - Davos IV
"The old ones." When Ser Bartimus grinned, he looked just like a skull. "Me and mine were here before the Manderlys. Like as not, my own forebears strung those entrails through the tree."
"I never knew that northmen made blood sacrifice to their heart trees."
"There's much and more you southrons do not know about the north," Ser Bartimus replied.
YESSSS! y'all are awesome
Great quotes, but I don’t think that the Manderlys remember more about the previous Long Night or the old gods religion than the Starks. Firstly, they worship the new gods, not the old, based on the fact they came from the South after the Andal invasion. And, as stated in the quote from Wylla Manderly above, the Manderlys came to the North a thousand years before the Targ conquest, so about 1,300 years ago, while the Long Night was at least 5,000 and possibly 8,000 years ago, so thousands of years before the Manderlys came North.
The ships is a good possibility though.
The Starks built WF because of the volcanic vents. They allow for glass gardens to be built to grow food in the winter as well as not freeze to death. There may have been a natural crevice and the Starks simply expanded it outward and downward. War, disease and the NW are the reason there aren’t more Starks.
I have a theory that Rickon Stark was behind the tourney at harrenhall as a part of southern ambitions. The Starks don't do tourneys but they also don't marry outside the north yet they are at this time. Having all the children at the tourney moves suspicion off the Starks and yet the Lord isn't present for what is thought to be a council meeting to remove the present King, Tywin is suspected of being the backer for not being present but Rickon is also not present. It's fully reasonable for the Starks to have the gold for the tourney and the prize crown is blue winter roses that we only hear about growing in the Winterfell greenhouse. The Starks also become the most connected family in the southern ambitions plot not the Tully's Baratheons or Arryns
Of course blood raven sent the dire wolves, particularly John’s. Remember that Ghost was the only one with red eyes and his eyes were the only ones that were open? Blood raven works through ghost.
I have a mini theory that maybe nance raider was a Stark Snow and ventured to the wall. Just seems to make sense and given most of the Starks are dead and the backstory regarding mance is hazy I feel it would make sense.
I think the hear looks great
@1:33:00 Lyanna had a statue down there too no?
Yep!
Who's to say Ice wasn't used in combat? Swords of similar size proportions we're used effectively by professional mercenaries/warriors in the 16-17th centuries and they were made of normal steel. A Valyrian steel blade as big as ice would be lighter and it would be able to cut bloody swathes through royalist forces, tho it is strange noone ever talks about Ned's use of such an imposing blade
You should check out Lucifer means lightbringer an his theories on the Empire of the great Dawn they're pretty interesting
What if Bran the builder was making a magic"net" around the Isle of faces? That's why he was so prolific in his buildings?
Thank you for the ending comments on the Starks and their ATTENTION to history--not so much. Looking South (as Rickard did for marriages and Ned leaving for King's Landing) distracts them from what the Starks should be doing--looking North and "the North Remembers"--really?
Personally I like to believe the original Stark blade was the blade of an Other. The description of the blades of the Others are also very similar to the Description of Dawn. I either think it was taken by right of conquest (Winterfell being the seat of house Stark would point to some type of defeat of the Others perhaps) or perhaps by right of blood if you subscribe to the thought the Starks have blood ties to the Others.
IDG!!!
Don't forget to include the "Stark" child Jon Snow--also a false and misleading story.
If the crypts were dug, does it make sense that the oldest would be at the bottom? Wouldn’t it make more sense that the oldest would be near the top? And that as time goes on and more Starks die, they need more room and so dig deeper. If the crypts are a cavern being used as a crypt, it would make sense to go from the bottom up. Have I missed something?
Hi Robert, do you think there could be a horn of Bravos, that can wake up the statue of Bravos in times of need, similar to what you think about the horn of winter
I hate how the ASOIAF content creators have blackballed LML. Robert has done several livestreams with him and he wont even mention his name.
Are the seasons out of order ONLY in Westeros? I don't recall anything mentioned about this in Essos.
Something just hit me! What if the night's king did marry a white walker but then he's also Azor Ahai. Cause he realized what he was doing was wrong so he plunched light bringer through the heart of his white walker wife and went on to stop the long night be brought fourth through his sacrificed children. And what if Craster also started the long night now cause he was sacrificing his children to them and grew their strength again and Sam stole the 100th baby so they start a war to get it back
Thanks Robert! Night kids!
Regarding the dire wolf and her cubs being south of the wall. That fkn reeks of bloodraven
39:00 Water is same thing as ice, btw xD
If there are NO successful Stark marriages does the Stark line end now? What about, "There must always be a Stark in Winterfell?"
Loving the new Benjin theory, if he's alive maybe Benjin returns to be the Lord of Winterfell and continues the Stark line.
Is Arya a creepy freak in the books like she was in the show? I think most of the Stark children will be pretty fucked up.
Jon literally died & Bran is a freak.
Only Stark children I think can be normal is Rickon (idk what’s going on in Skagos tho) and Sansa although she’s been through a ton it’s not as severe as her siblings
Ayra and rickon are loosing reality far as i remember, have only started rereading. Both are often warged to their wolfs, Rickon im less sure but arya was definitly loosing track of what was real and what wasn't, nevermind the fact she is assassinating people.
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Definitely don't cut the hair :)
Yeah! Robert is an ATLA fan confirmed!
Robert love your video as always. I don’t know if you follow Kev at Bridge4 but he released a new video where he posits that Long Claw if the lost sword, Blackfyre. He was pretty convincing. I would love to know what you think. Thanks
@Sheila Hilton , Robert might see this and give you his own take on it and I did not see Bridge4 's vid with that theory although I have read other theories about this and personally I do not see it. The timeline in ASoIaF is not particularly reliable so we can question it but Longclaw is dated to have been with the Mormonts for 500 years , so about 2 centuries before the Conquest when Aegon had the sword Blackfyre in his possession. The sword BF was in the Targs possession all the way through the Blackfyre Rebellions and the last known possessor of Blackfyre (the sword) i believe was Bittersteel. So it could be the timeline is just wrong and the Mormonts acquired Blackfyre at some point after it disappeared and dressed it up as Longclaw , although I do not think it is the case. I think the Mormonts somehow acquired Longclaw long ago and have had it well before the sword Blackfyre was even on the continent.
Either way I think this whole debate is going to end when fAegon pulls out Blackfyre from one of the chests Illyrio sent off with fAegon . The last known wielder of Blackfyre was Bittersteel who found the Golden Company , who are now with fAegon , and were based in Essos where Illyrio very likely came across and made sure to pay a huge sum to acquire the sword Blackfyre. Blackfyre was Aegon I 's sword and basically the sword of Kings passing down through the Targ kings until Aegon IV gave it to Daemon Balckfyre ; so it is a powerful legitimizing symbol that i think Illyrio would desperately want to get his hands on to enhance fAegon's claim and appearance of legitimacy. Not saying 100% because we never know until we get more from GRRM but i think Longclaw by the dates has seemingly been in Mormont possession well before , through and after the Conquest, and we have a fairly decent chain of custody for the sword Blackfyre until not that long ago (up until about 50 years before the current narrative if I am doing the math correctly). And I suspect the sword Blackfyre to likely emerge with fAegon while Longclaw is in Jon's possession and that will be that. Though of course i am not saying it is 100% either way , that is just how i am leaning.
Andrew K this was a long response Andrew, so thank you for taking the time to do so. Why not take a look at Bridge4 video titled “Where is Blackfyre” then circle back and let me know what you think. It’s only 8+ minutes long and I think at the least you will be entertained. Cheers
Sheila Hilton , was a good vid , I just watched it. I think the fact that a smaller / lesser not particularly wealthy house having a sword like that has always been questionable and I did say in my comment the timeline in this story can always be questioned. Jeor could be wrong about the time or the Mormonts could have long given a false account of how long they had the sword , anything with a timeline justification in this universe always has that vulnerability.
Kev provided some good points especially the thoughts Jon had when he was given Longclaw from LC Mormont. And I did say in my comment , I won’t commit 100% either way so there is always a chance this theory that I have read numerous times elsewhere could be true about Blackfyre being Longclaw. Personally though I still lean towards fAegon coming out with the sword while resurrected Jon has Longclaw in possession and that will be that. The Golden Company is with fAegon now , the founder of which was that last known wielder and possessor of Blackfyre and I think Illyrio had the means and Illyrio and Varys would have came up with the plan to get a massive legitimizing symbol to further the claim of a pretender which the sword of kings would be , if they could get their hands on that. I think Illyrio put BF in those chests for fAegon as they were leaving for Westeros. But with anything in ASoIaF I will not say 100% either way and I am very much open to being wrong about any given concept or entertaining a variety of theories.
Andrew K I personally love the fAegon storyline and I concede that Illaryio could have had Blackfyre and given it to our guy, after all he did have dragon eggs, right. I hope that someone asks George about the sword and that he answers it the way he did about Dark Sister. It just hit me that Blackfyre is closely liked to Bittersteel, so if fAegon is claiming that he is Rheagar’s son wouldn’t that cause people to question the veracity of his backstory. It would also reveal the links between Varys and Illaryio and their plot to put fAegon on the Iron Throne. I do believe that Kev is onto something but if it turns out that fAegon has the sword it’s going blow up his claim once Dany gets to Westeros. She will have to fight the Golden Company in the process. I wish George didn’t have so many storylines in the books. We are five books in but he has so much to flesh out, it’s going to require at least three more books to wrap up his story.
Counting the months/years until the next book. Get the feeling that Cersei and Qyburn will go loco (similar to the show) now that her uncle and the Grand Maester are dead, oh wait she still has those pesky Poor Fellows and the Sparrow to deal with.😀
@Sheila Hilton i don't think GRRM will answer about Blackfyre like he did with Dark Sister , confirming Bloodraven took it with him to the Wall ; I think we will get the answer in TWoW when i believe fAegon reveals he has the sword Blackfyre. And yes like the dragon eggs , Illyrio has proven rich and resourceful enough to acquire just about anything , even more so with Varys at his side. Bittersteel being the last known wielder / possessor of the sword Blackfyre and founder of the Golden Company who were hooked up with the Blackfyres and now linked up with fAegon ; even the GC uncharacteristically dropped their contract / allegiance which they had never done since their inception to follow fAegon with the whole blood stronger than ink rationale should certainly raise Blackfyre suspicions at least to the reader. Just being associated with the Golden Company at all should raise suspicions within the narrative or the fact they broke a contract to follow fAegon (something they never did); but I don't think the masses in Westeros or the majority of lords will raise massive questions with that or him coming into possession of the sword Blackfyre.
I think the masses will see it as a symbol of legitimacy and figure he must be telling the truth (which he isn't) by having the sword of kings. I do think regardless some will not believe his story believing baby Aegon was killed during the sack of KL. I don't think any of it will matter massively , fAegon seems he will be popular and likely doing a relatively good job by the time Dany gets there and enough people will likely believe / want to believe his story and if he has enough backing / support , a powerful military force and any sort of claim we know that is enough in this universe to make waves and achieve things. I do think Dany will always see him as a pretender per her visions and she will become more and more ambitious and driven as the books progress , to claim what she believes to be her birthright and will likely oust him but I do think she will not be totally sure if fAegon is Aegon / true-gon or not , i believe Barristan will question if he is actually Rhaegar's son and may even defect to his side out of guilt and loyalty to the Targs (if Selmy survives to make it back to Westeros).
But fAegon has the look , has a powerful military force behind him ; so a legitimizing symbol like the sword Blackfyre , (if he has it) will only enhance his claim imo , especially to the masses and most of the lords of the realm. So I am leaning the fAegon has Blackfyre way at the moment but Bridge4 made some good points and i am not going to totally rule out his theory either (I have heard many other versions of that same theory also over the years).
I am right there with you regarding TWoW , I am so eager for that to be released , hopefully sooner rather than later. And I do agree with you with the amount of arcs , story / plot lines that GRRM has written himself into I truly fail to see how he will adequately wrap this whole thing up in just TWoW & ADoS. And i do not envy the task of writing TWoW , this is definitely the largest and most challenging book to write in the series , so much going on and the narrative has basically expanded as big as it can before it starts to bottleneck / contract for ADoS. If anyone can wrap it up properly in 2 remaining books, even if TWoW is absolutely enormous it will be GRRM but I have have a suspicion it may end up being eight books to wrap up this series instead of the planned seven.
I hope the last 1, 2 is it? books are like 3 volumes each and GRRM releases them all at once so he can tell his fans to stop pestering him forever 😂 (said with love TO GRRM, oc)
Nah. He's still writing, would you ever concieve he'd had happened upon this very tubecast,first time???(and then inverts you're ideas ... One way or another we need the hamster on the wheel(new hampster)?
Interestingly...of the Stark children remaining (HBO series) there are only Sansa, Arya and Bran to have children. Arya leaves for her adventures, Bran seemingly will not be able to have children, and Sansa has PTSD and seemingly won't marry and have children. But who really knows about Sansa? Jon...well he too has PTSD so no kids for him. Hmmmm...succession crisis once again?
What is ur job y
Not history nor lore, IT'S ALL FICTION!!!
I think you need a refresher on what the term "lore" means... I'm sure you're very well read though..
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Can someone please sell me on dunk and egg? Im completely obsessed with asofai but i can't commit to all these non main story stories, ya know? Fml
It's a really well written series of stories about incredibly likeable characters. Bloodraven also appears.
Chipperson , I personally highly recommend D&E , those novellas are a fun entertaining read , that are very enjoyable. I tend to read the ASoIaF series on the slower side due to all the richness , depth , complexity and symbolism but I absolutely flew through D&E. Definitely a different lighter tone than ASoIaF, get some insights into Targs / a couple Targ kings / Targ family dynamic , Blackfyres , bunch of easter eggs / clues / evidence for the main series as well and Bloodraven in his prime. And of course following Dunk and Egg around seeing what they get into is fun and interesting as well. It is also a much more low magic story from GRRM in this universe with no dragons etc ; mostly about political intrigue and medieval battles , tourneys , trials by combat / Trial of seven. I am probably not doing D&E justice , you will understand the charm and draw of them when you read them.
Robert / IDG even has a link to the compilation book where you get all 3 D&E novellas together , which has a nice discount that you can access with the link in this video description , the link for "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms".
@@AndrewK23777 you've certainly shown your own passion and interest. You said the its more low magic with a focus on the family and intrigues and BATTLES. Do we witness actual battles in DandE? Also, for the writing style.. Is it in pov style per usual? Do we just see dunc and egs perspective? Just one of them? Thats probably the most necessary thing to sway me at this point. What do they get into?? Is it as brutal and blunt as asoiaf?
@@chippersonsencyclopediaemp1318 Honestly it's so good that I want George to write another D&E book before A Dream of Spring
@@chippersonsencyclopediaemp1318 as far as I remember thus far it is all from Dunk's perspective through 3 novellas , def a good degree of medieval combat with melee's , trial by combat (can't elaborate much without spoiling anything). The battles unless i am omitting are mostly flashbacks about Blackfyre rebellions and other campaigns thus far but definitely some one on one combat , trials by combat , tourneys etc. But I am sure in later novellas we will see Dunk in battle , pretty sure Dunk partook in the 4th Balckfyre Rebellion , dealt with the Laughing Storm and there were numerous smaller uprisings during Aegon V's reign that I am sure Dunk had to be part of dealing with most of those. But those battles will likely be included in later novellas. I do not want to give away and spoil much but definitely has enough intrigue , combat / action and political machinations to hold the interest.
Dunk is definitely a character you feel and route for and interesting to see Egg / future Aegon V's experiences and what he learns / picks up along the way. D&E is hard to do justice from a descriptive standpoint at least from me but once you read them you realize how great they are , not as dense or heavy as ASoIaF but super enjoyable and fun , you would definitely not be disappointed. Great outlet for GRRM to give us hints and evidence for the main ASoIaF series and more detail with Westeros / its history in general and George delving into the more non magic pseudo medieval goings on in this universe. Anyone I know that has read them just loves them and can not wait for more ; myself included.
You say um and uh in this constantly. You don't normally whats up?
Love your content. For your next video can you please do "the top 10 sexiest guys in Westeros"??? And if it was successful you could follow it up with "The top 10 sexiest guys in Essos"? Like if you agree 👍
The Stark men were all stupid.
house stark are incredibly boring compared to house targaryen and house lannister