Around 1976, a Lysander was flying from Booker Airfield, High Wycombe. I was walking through the nearby industrial estate, with a colleague, heard a sound and, looking up, saw it apparently hovering overhead. It turned out that my companion had flown them in the War and had great liking and respect for them and told me they could fly incredibly slowly.
The Lysander has been a favourite aircraft of mine since I was a boy, not sure why but apart from it's heroic clandestine exploits there's something very endearing about the old girl.
I think that it is because it is the complete opposite of a Spitfire. It is slow, ungainly looking both on the ground and in the air and with strange stubby lines it makes a Swordfish look sleek in comparison. I think that the secret night Ops adds to attraction because it is the only plane that can sneak over to France, drop down into a secret landing site in a field, drop off an agent and supplies, pick up a passenger or two, take off from the field, sneak out of France and back over the Channel to England. Sure other aircraft would have stuff to do at night but none would land in Occupied Territory. On Moonlit nights, only the Lysander had the sky all to itself. Mark from Melbourne Australia
Opening credits shows Lysander LX M, my dad flew in that aircraft when he was in 225 Squadron! He was a Doctor in the RAF in WW2 so could get a few joy rides, and he got one in that plane! Wish he was still here to tell more of his experiences, but like most veterans I think he just wanted to put the war behind him. Still it is nice to see it on film.
My late father did one mission by Lysander. He was called to the Rubens hotel in London, then driven to an airfield in a blacked out lorry, so he did not know which one. He then flew as a passenger to France, while sitting on a box of dynamite. They landed at night & hid the plane. He spent the day teaching ex Polish soldiers, who had attached themselves to French Resistance, how to use a radio, so they could contact London. Then he flew back that night.
If the dynamite goes off while you are in the plane, it probably doesn’t make a lot of difference if you are sitting on it or not. But you would still be a bit nervous about it.
What do you compare the Lysander with? The Storch? The Lysander was a much bigger and more powerful machine. It had a good range and was surprisingly fast. To be able to fly from the UK, to Southern France, land in a field and then return the same night, all within the hours of darkness was a pretty unique property. Those same abilities and the good visibility meant that it was a pretty effective air-sea rescue plane, too.
My late father instructed a few Polish pilots on these. Apparently it was a rush do and he had to do a quick familiarisation before the trainees arrived. He said it was just what had to be done in wartime UK. Nice video.
My Grandfather also trained the Poles in these aircraft based at Newtownards airfield in Northern Ireland before he moved to the big Sunderlands flying out of Castle Archedale on the Atlantic patrols, the Poles later moved to Ballyhalbert airfield and formed 303 squadron.
SOE used to train agents in my village at a large house on the high street. They used a large field to practice agents landing and pickup using Lysanders.
Yeah it isn't a bad looking aircraft. Quite unique looking. Thanks, good to publish a new video finally. Life's been a little hectic the last month, so I had to sideline this video briefly. However, things have quietened down, so there should be quite a few new videos on their way 👍✈️
General Lysander would be proud ... and probably less odd-looking. That is deffo a functional shape. I like it lots. That double-tailed version is amazing.
Yes I'm sure he would be. The Lysander was quite an important asset for the SOE. It is rather odd, but it did the job. It is quite a fascinating modification
What a great aircraft. It's difficult to think of another aeroplane that could have undertaken the operations that the Lysander did so successfully. Thanks for the interesting vid.
Yeah I agree. Especially its role as an SOE aircraft. I don't think I know of a British aircraft that had the STOL capabilities of the Lysander. Most likely would of require a new design. 👍✈️
When I was in the UK fire brigade 20 or so years back, one afternoon I was fitting smoke detectors in the house of an elderly gentleman. While I was filling in the necessary "paperwork" I spotted the familiar blue and white diagonal ribbon of a "Distinguished Flying Cross" framed on a wall of his living room. When I asked him who the DFC had been awarded to, his eyes opened wide with surprise that I would know what it was. He then told me how in 1939 as a Lysander pilot in RAF No.2 Sqd, he had flown observation missions over the French/Belgian border during the 1939/40 "Phoney war". He then told me how in early june 1940 his squadron then got orders at short notice to evacuate to the UK. He said that the last 8 airworthy lysanders took off from north eastern France to hop at low level over the English channel, and that during the flight they had been attacked by Me109s. He had managed to evade multiple 109 attacks, and his rear gunner even managed to send one of the attackers banking away with smoke streaming from it. When they arrived in the UK only 4 of the aircraft had made it, the other 4 aircraft and their crews were lost in the channel. It is quite possible that that footage of the Lysander going down was one of his squadron mates. He said he later flew SOE operatives into and out of France during the German occupation and was awarded the DFC in 1944. Just a little, white haired old man in his 80s.... and yet an outright absolute bloody HERO. God bless his memory.
I have been hoping that someone would take a relatively in depth look at this most quirky and really (I think) cute aircraft. Thank you Tomato...and you get a sub out of it to boot
You are a twenty year old pilot. You cannot boast about being a fighter pilot or a bomber pilot. You cannot talk about what you do at all. You operate from an airfield that does not exist. At night, you get into your Lysander. Behind is a civilian-looking person. You are not allowed to know who that person is. You take off . You have to find a small field in France. Your navigation equipment is a map and a compass, but you have hardly any light to see them. You have to look for landmarks on the ground while hoping the Germans don’t spot you. You find and land on a tiny field in France. (Are the people waiting for you resistance or Gestapo?) Your passenger gets out, and another gets in. You take off as soon as you can, to find your way back. And when you go to the pub the next day, you get no admiration. People think you just do a bit of coastal surveillance.
The Canadian built Lysander at the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum was restored to flying condition a number of years ago but after an accident it's being restored to static display. I was told by a member that the Bristol XX engine powering it is just too unreliable to trust for flying such an old and relatively rare aircraft.
Both the 'p' and the 's' are silent in the pronunciation of the word 'Corps', so it sounds like 'Core'. Add an 'e' to it however, and you get your 'corpse'.
Just a small point, the automatic slats and flaps were triggered by angle of attack (incidence to Americans) and not airspeed. They are different things.
Ah yes correct. Thanks for the pick up. A lot of my sources just described it as the speed and I believe that is where I would of gotten confused. They are related and speed no doubt influences it. 👍✈️
@@AntiqueAirshow G'day, Um..., if you look up a YT Channel called, Blancolirio he has done many explanations of why AIRSPEED is in fact totally IRRELEVANT to precipitating an Aerodynamic Stall...; The ONLY factor which matters is the Angle of Impingement ("Attack") at which the Oncoming Airstream meets the Wing's Chord-Line. You might have a "true Airspeed " of 4 times the published "Stall Speed" of your Aircraft - but if the Angle Off Attack is beyond that at which the Wing Stalls (15° to 17.5° - ish), then it will simply succumb to a High-Speed Stall. The quirky part of the Lysander's Wing's High-Lift Devices..., for which you appear to have been grasping, is that the Pilot had NO Control over the deployment of either Slats, or Flaps...(!). It was ALL Automatic. As the AOA increased, the Airflow began to Suck the Slats off the Wing Leading Edges, opening the Slots, and as the Slat moved out from the L.E...., and there were Control Linkages which then used the Slats moving against Spring Tension - to deploy the Flaps... And thus, as the Nose came up the Slats opened themselves, and as they did then they lowered the Flaps....; put the Nose down, and as the AOA reduced then the Slots closed up under Spring Pressure, pulling the Flaps up as well. So I read in both Aeroplane Monthly magazine feature Articles, and the Pilot's Cockpit Notes... It must have been very strange - until one became used to it... By the way, if you backtrack me to my Videos, last week I posted a reunion and pilgrimage. "National Transportation Museum...; Visiting My First Aeroplane !" A relic of back when Oz really did lead the World - in Minimum Aircraft. You should get a good giggle out of it (?) ! Enjoy ? Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
@@beb5816 G'day, Thanks mate ! No worries....; I like sharing whatever interesting snippets I happen to have collected, with anybody who might be interested...., so you're very welcome... Enjoy ! Such is life, Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
@@WarblesOnALot Yes that is very true. Thank you for sharing these quite in depth notes. They really add a lot of depth and information. Only about two months ago, I did my first flying lesson on stalling. My instructor heavily emphasized that speed won't stall the aircraft, angle of attack is what does. That lesson was also the first time I threw up in an aircraft😂 I saw that video and a very interesting watch. It was also interesting to see the changes to the aircraft that the museum had made. 👍✈ (P.S Sorry for the quite delayed reply, sometimes I miss one or two and don't realize. )
It looks like the kind of plane where you drag it backwards on the kitchen tile thenit shoots forward. Or the kind with a saddle on top for the toddler to ride.
They are big aircraft when you stand next to one and the pilot sits high above the ground. It was both advanced and outdated at the same time but as he says its ability to STOL and operate from grass fields and stay airborne for a long time as a liaison and spotting aircraft meant it found its niche in history.. Westland went on to become one of the UK's principle helicopter manufacturers postwar to current. Its a favourite of flying and display modellers... usually in its SOE ops. night colours. Theres a nice cockpit video of a taxi and takeoff from a runway and landing of a restored Lizzy... On U tube.
I haven't had the chance to see one in person, but I could imagine it is quite a significant sized machine. I find the technology utilized in the aircraft quite fascinating because as you highlight it was advance but both outdated. It modern, but it wasn't, perhaps unique technology. Nevertheless this technology gave it good STOL capabilities. I know of the video, and reckon its great a watch for anyone interested in the aircraft. Gives great insight into flying the plane. The same guy has a few other videos of the same style with different warbirds. Make some interesting viewing.
@Tomato Eins you need to work on your pronunciations; for example, 'corps' is pronounced as "cor". Other than this, the content in your videos is very good.
That is very true and to be honest I am not sure. Quite often these statistics are a massed from a variety of sources. However I can confirm that sources agree that 118 of the type were lost. Being war there can also be some confusion over precise numbers. I have found with other types that statistics don't always add up exactly. Thanks 👍✈️
LOL, the amount of videos on pootoob that are narrated by either lazy speakers, people with seriously bad speech impediments or just people who do zero research into pronunciations is incredibly vast, it's such a great pity as many of the videos contain great content and are potentially learning tools for generations to come. Sadly, generations to come will for the most part learn from people that cannot pronounce things correctly and eventually we shall zee duh ejukayschun zyztum tern 2 schyt! The thing is, there are an ever increasing amount of folk with mental illnesses, autism, physical disabilities which affects their ability to speak properly or just folk with simple speech impediments or speech defects and in any number of these such like issues their confidence to communicate with others will be badly affected. And so youtube has become a great platform for such people to express themselves by offering them the ability to better communicate with the wider World as a whole, and that is a great thing, well for them it is, and for many viewers too as they do often have seriously interesting things to say even if they say them badly. Sadly it is not a great thing for those who are more sensitive or intolerant of piss poor pronunciation or presentation, let's cut the lad some slack, it could have been worse I guess, he could have been American too!
Absolutely true, but the amount of WW2 ground crew that gave a toss for a Spartan leader or the Peloponnesian war at all, were probably minimal. Ex public school 'bods' might have got excited about it, but pronouncing it with a 'z', although lazy, would also be true to the spirit of the majority familiar with this type in the RAF. So for me, either pronunciation is correct. In WW1, Ypres was pronounced phonetically by the average Tommy, as 'Wipers'. Do we honour the memory of 'real men', some ill educated, some not, that gave their lives for all our freedoms in both world wars, by petulantly correcting what would have often been their pronunciation, as if one were the proverbial 'stuffed shirt'..............?
One of many WW2 era aircraft that was essentially obsolete in its intended role as soon as it entered service. It was lucky to find a niche role where it could still perform well.
It was never called liezander but ly sander Lysander . Nick name Lizzie . I guess you have a spech impediment . I mean no disrespect . As always a great video 👍
I try my best with pronouciation but often get one or two wrong words wrong. The reason I went with Liezander was that I watched a video on it and thought that's how it was pronounced. Turned out I had misheard them 😬 Thank you 👍✈️
Yes there is Japanese officers in the image. It is from the Australian War Memorial and this is the caption that accompanies it. "Rangoon, Burma, c. 1945-08. Three Japanese soldiers stand beside Westland Lysander IIIA V9303 of No. 357 Special Duties (SD) Squadron RAF at Mingaladon airfield. Two RAF crewmen, including a flight lieutenant (right), are aboard the aircraft preparing it for flight, while another RAF crewman stands to the rear of the Japanese soldiers. The aircraft is about to fly the Japanese to remote areas of Burma where they will be parachuted in to Japanese forces who have not yet surrendered in order to tell them that the war has ended. The Japanese will make their parachute jump from the ladder attached to the side of the aircraft. Because of the long distance the aircraft has to travel, an auxiliary fuel tank has been fitted to the underside of its fuselage. (Donor W. Mulford) (Original print held in AWM Archive Store)"
An interesting video, spoiled for me by the many mispronunciations; 'Lyzander' instead of Lysander, 'Crate' instead of Crete, 'Henshkle' instead of Henschel, 'Corpse' instead of Corps and the absolute howler (repeated many times in this vid) of 'Cladsteen' instead of clandestine (klan - DESS - tyne). These are not just national or regional variation in pronunciations!!!!
Come guys, stop all this crap about diction, we were all different, but fought together against the same enemy. My late uncle, Fred Weston DFC and bar, was a tail gunner on several different heavy bomber types, towards the end of the war he flew clandestine missions to France in Lysanders, heaven knows what they got up to, he never spoke about it to me.
Around 1976, a Lysander was flying from Booker Airfield, High Wycombe. I was walking through the nearby industrial estate, with a colleague, heard a sound and, looking up, saw it apparently hovering overhead. It turned out that my companion had flown them in the War and had great liking and respect for them and told me they could fly incredibly slowly.
That would have been a very interesting sight and your companions stories would have been very fascinating.
The Lysander has been a favourite aircraft of mine since I was a boy, not sure why but apart from it's heroic clandestine exploits there's something very endearing about the old girl.
Nice, I know what you mean👍✈️
I think that it is because it is the complete opposite of a Spitfire. It is slow, ungainly looking both on the ground and in the air and with strange stubby lines it makes a Swordfish look sleek in comparison. I think that the secret night Ops adds to attraction because it is the only plane that can sneak over to France, drop down into a secret landing site in a field, drop off an agent and supplies, pick up a passenger or two, take off from the field, sneak out of France and back over the Channel to England. Sure other aircraft would have stuff to do at night but none would land in Occupied Territory. On Moonlit nights, only the Lysander had the sky all to itself.
Mark from Melbourne Australia
Opening credits shows Lysander LX M, my dad flew in that aircraft when he was in 225 Squadron! He was a Doctor in the RAF in WW2 so could get a few joy rides, and he got one in that plane! Wish he was still here to tell more of his experiences, but like most veterans I think he just wanted to put the war behind him. Still it is nice to see it on film.
That is very interesting and fascinating to hear. Thanks for sharing 👍✈️
That is super cool.
Just looks right,for its place and time,but is an odd plane.punched well above its weight,brave pilots
It is a different looking aircraft, but in the right role it certainly did excel.
My late father did one mission by Lysander. He was called to the Rubens hotel in London, then driven to an airfield in a blacked out lorry, so he did not know which one. He then flew as a passenger to France, while sitting on a box of dynamite. They landed at night & hid the plane. He spent the day teaching ex Polish soldiers, who had attached themselves to French Resistance, how to use a radio, so they could contact London. Then he flew back that night.
That is very interesting and fascinating. Thanks for sharing 👍✈️
Most likely it was Tempsford. An airfield so secret that the anti-aircraft defences could only fire back if attacked first.
Would love to hear more.
If the dynamite goes off while you are in the plane, it probably doesn’t make a lot of difference if you are sitting on it or not. But you would still be a bit nervous about it.
What do you compare the Lysander with? The Storch? The Lysander was a much bigger and more powerful machine. It had a good range and was surprisingly fast. To be able to fly from the UK, to Southern France, land in a field and then return the same night, all within the hours of darkness was a pretty unique property. Those same abilities and the good visibility meant that it was a pretty effective air-sea rescue plane, too.
The Storch would be most likely the closet thing to compare it to. As an SOE machine, the Lysander no doubt excelled.
What about the Henschel Hs 126? Probably a better comparison. ua-cam.com/video/OqfE8l2YgAo/v-deo.html
@@AntiqueAirshow The closest thing in British service to the Storch would be the Auster.
@@AntiqueAirshow I wouldnt fancy land in enemy terrain at darkness.
Maybe the Curtiss O-52 "Owl?"
My late father instructed a few Polish pilots on these. Apparently it was a rush do and he had to do a quick familiarisation before the trainees arrived. He said it was just what had to be done in wartime UK. Nice video.
That is really interesting. Quite fascinating. Thanks for sharing 👍✈️
My Grandfather also trained the Poles in these aircraft based at Newtownards airfield in Northern Ireland before he moved to the big Sunderlands flying out of Castle Archedale on the Atlantic patrols, the Poles later moved to Ballyhalbert airfield and formed 303 squadron.
Great Army Co-op Plane! Did wonderful work with the French Resistance for sure! Great video as always!
It was indeed. The work with the French Resistance was significant and extremely important. Thank you 👍✈️
I,m sure I saw 2 of these flying at Duxford airshow 20 years or so ago. They purred around the sky.
That would have been a great sight to see
SOE used to train agents in my village at a large house on the high street. They used a large field to practice agents landing and pickup using Lysanders.
That is very interesting and fascinating. Thanks for sharing.
Last one I saw was at RAF Detling, 1952
It came in as I was cycling across the 'field: I have never pedalled so fast!
Nice, that would of been a good sight to see
Always thought this was a good-looking plane. Nice to see a new video from you.
Yeah it isn't a bad looking aircraft. Quite unique looking. Thanks, good to publish a new video finally. Life's been a little hectic the last month, so I had to sideline this video briefly. However, things have quietened down, so there should be quite a few new videos on their way 👍✈️
General Lysander would be proud ... and probably less odd-looking. That is deffo a functional shape. I like it lots. That double-tailed version is amazing.
Yes I'm sure he would be. The Lysander was quite an important asset for the SOE. It is rather odd, but it did the job. It is quite a fascinating modification
What a great aircraft. It's difficult to think of another aeroplane that could have undertaken the operations that the Lysander did so successfully. Thanks for the interesting vid.
Yeah I agree. Especially its role as an SOE aircraft. I don't think I know of a British aircraft that had the STOL capabilities of the Lysander. Most likely would of require a new design. 👍✈️
@@AntiqueAirshow “would have required “
Great pics ! Really well done !
Thank you 👍✈
Thanks really well researched and well presented . Enjoying your stuff mate ❤
Thank you, great to hear 👍✈️
I swear the airfix model is harder to construct than the real think.
I haven't built a Lysander before, but I could imagine it would have something interesting shapes involved.
I live in the Town these aircraft were built, and 30 minutes ago I was driving down Lysander road, named after this aircraft.
When I was in the UK fire brigade 20 or so years back, one afternoon I was fitting smoke detectors in the house of an elderly gentleman. While I was filling in the necessary "paperwork" I spotted the familiar blue and white diagonal ribbon of a "Distinguished Flying Cross" framed on a wall of his living room. When I asked him who the DFC had been awarded to, his eyes opened wide with surprise that I would know what it was.
He then told me how in 1939 as a Lysander pilot in RAF No.2 Sqd, he had flown observation missions over the French/Belgian border during the 1939/40 "Phoney war". He then told me how in early june 1940 his squadron then got orders at short notice to evacuate to the UK. He said that the last 8 airworthy lysanders took off from north eastern France to hop at low level over the English channel, and that during the flight they had been attacked by Me109s. He had managed to evade multiple 109 attacks, and his rear gunner even managed to send one of the attackers banking away with smoke streaming from it.
When they arrived in the UK only 4 of the aircraft had made it, the other 4 aircraft and their crews were lost in the channel. It is quite possible that that footage of the Lysander going down was one of his squadron mates. He said he later flew SOE operatives into and out of France during the German occupation and was awarded the DFC in 1944.
Just a little, white haired old man in his 80s.... and yet an outright absolute bloody HERO. God bless his memory.
That is very interesting and fascinating to read. Quite remarkable. They were brave men, Lest we forget
Nice one. I really enjoyed this look at an old favourite of mine
Thanks 👍✈️
The radial engine, the big canopy with the pilot sitting high up is, to me, very reminiscent of US WW2 carrier planes.
It does a little.
Two videos in and im subscribed. So so much better than darl skies ❤
Thank you, appreciate it 👍✈️
Massive upgrade from the Audax!! Far better for the job!
Yes indeed.
I have been hoping that someone would take a relatively in depth look
at this most quirky and really (I think) cute aircraft.
Thank you Tomato...and you get a sub out of it to boot
and because of the way I do that sort of thing, 2 views, and the revenue from 2 sets of ads
Thank you, appreciate it 👍✈️
Great film!
Thanks 👍✈️
You are a twenty year old pilot. You cannot boast about being a fighter pilot or a bomber pilot. You cannot talk about what you do at all. You operate from an airfield that does not exist. At night, you get into your Lysander. Behind is a civilian-looking person. You are not allowed to know who that person is. You take off . You have to find a small field in France. Your navigation equipment is a map and a compass, but you have hardly any light to see them. You have to look for landmarks on the ground while hoping the Germans don’t spot you. You find and land on a tiny field in France. (Are the people waiting for you resistance or Gestapo?) Your passenger gets out, and another gets in. You take off as soon as you can, to find your way back. And when you go to the pub the next day, you get no admiration. People think you just do a bit of coastal surveillance.
It is quite remarkable and incredible what these pilots had to go through and yet get no recognition for it. They were brave men. Lest we forget
The Canadian built Lysander at the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum was restored to flying condition a number of years ago but after an accident it's being restored to static display. I was told by a member that the Bristol XX engine powering it is just too unreliable to trust for flying such an old and relatively rare aircraft.
Yeah that's fair. It does get to a point where the risk of flying such aircraft becomes to great. Especially if it is a rarer example.
There's still one flying in Canada from quebec province
What was the purpose of the small window / viewing port, on the fuselage under the forward part of the vertical stabiliser?
I'm honestly not sure. Possibly to put a camera in or carry stores.
Possibly to allow the rear control cables to be checked. Note how its at head height for groundcrew.
Both the 'p' and the 's' are silent in the pronunciation of the word 'Corps', so it sounds like 'Core'. Add an 'e' to it however, and you get your 'corpse'.
Lmao.
There is still an airworthy Lysander at shuttleworh in Hertfordshire . Sometimes it's flying at there air shows
Nice, I would love to see that one day 👍✈️
I like how the pilot sits so high.
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They're really quite a large aircraft, as was the swordfish.
I haven't seen one in person yet, but from pictures they look oddly big.
Great presentation. BTW, Clan-de-stine!
Thanks. Yep whoops, I'll get it next time 👍✈️
@@AntiqueAirshow Sorry, l'm litetally an English teacher. It's an occupational hazard!
@@indyjones1970 👍✈
Just a small point, the automatic slats and flaps were triggered by angle of attack (incidence to Americans) and not airspeed. They are different things.
Ah yes correct. Thanks for the pick up. A lot of my sources just described it as the speed and I believe that is where I would of gotten confused. They are related and speed no doubt influences it. 👍✈️
@@AntiqueAirshow
G'day,
Um..., if you look up a YT Channel called,
Blancolirio
he has done many explanations of why AIRSPEED is in fact totally IRRELEVANT to precipitating an Aerodynamic Stall...; The ONLY factor which matters is the Angle of Impingement ("Attack") at which the Oncoming Airstream meets the Wing's Chord-Line.
You might have a "true Airspeed " of 4 times the published "Stall Speed" of your Aircraft - but if the Angle Off Attack is beyond that at which the Wing Stalls (15° to 17.5° - ish), then it will simply succumb to a High-Speed Stall.
The quirky part of the Lysander's Wing's High-Lift Devices..., for which you appear to have been grasping, is that the Pilot had NO Control over the deployment of either Slats, or Flaps...(!).
It was ALL Automatic.
As the AOA increased, the Airflow began to Suck the Slats off the Wing Leading Edges, opening the Slots, and as the Slat moved out from the L.E...., and there were Control Linkages which then used the Slats moving against Spring Tension - to deploy the Flaps...
And thus, as the Nose came up the Slats opened themselves, and as they did then they lowered the Flaps....; put the Nose down, and as the AOA reduced then the Slots closed up under Spring Pressure, pulling the Flaps up as well.
So I read in both Aeroplane Monthly magazine feature Articles, and the Pilot's Cockpit Notes...
It must have been very strange - until one became used to it...
By the way, if you backtrack me to my Videos, last week I posted a reunion and pilgrimage.
"National Transportation Museum...; Visiting My First Aeroplane !"
A relic of back when Oz really did lead the World - in Minimum Aircraft.
You should get a good giggle out of it (?) !
Enjoy ?
Have a good one...
Stay safe.
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Ciao !
@@WarblesOnALot Goodonya mate. I've learnt something.
@@beb5816
G'day,
Thanks mate !
No worries....; I like sharing whatever interesting snippets I happen to have collected, with anybody who might be interested...., so you're very welcome... Enjoy !
Such is life,
Have a good one...
Stay safe.
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Ciao !
@@WarblesOnALot Yes that is very true. Thank you for sharing these quite in depth notes. They really add a lot of depth and information.
Only about two months ago, I did my first flying lesson on stalling. My instructor heavily emphasized that speed won't stall the aircraft, angle of attack is what does. That lesson was also the first time I threw up in an aircraft😂
I saw that video and a very interesting watch. It was also interesting to see the changes to the aircraft that the museum had made.
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(P.S Sorry for the quite delayed reply, sometimes I miss one or two and don't realize. )
It looks like the kind of plane where you drag it backwards on the kitchen tile thenit shoots forward. Or the kind with a saddle on top for the toddler to ride.
I never thought of it like that, but now you've mentioned it I see what you mean. Quite a unique looking aircraft.
They are big aircraft when you stand next to one and the pilot sits high above the ground.
It was both advanced and outdated at the same time but as he says its ability to STOL and operate from grass fields and stay airborne for a long time as a liaison and spotting aircraft meant it found its niche in history.. Westland went on to become one of the UK's principle helicopter manufacturers postwar to current.
Its a favourite of flying and display modellers... usually in its SOE ops. night colours.
Theres a nice cockpit video of a taxi and takeoff from a runway and landing of a restored Lizzy... On U tube.
I haven't had the chance to see one in person, but I could imagine it is quite a significant sized machine. I find the technology utilized in the aircraft quite fascinating because as you highlight it was advance but both outdated. It modern, but it wasn't, perhaps unique technology. Nevertheless this technology gave it good STOL capabilities.
I know of the video, and reckon its great a watch for anyone interested in the aircraft. Gives great insight into flying the plane. The same guy has a few other videos of the same style with different warbirds. Make some interesting viewing.
Amazing video....THANKS....SHOE🇺🇸
Thank you 👍✈️
The black version.. ' G model' I think.... was literally the first stealth plane
Used in the Battle of Calais to bring in supplies.
This was a very adaptable aircraft and well researched presentation, unfortunately spoilt by the presenters diction.
@Tomato Eins you need to work on your pronunciations; for example, 'corps' is pronounced as "cor". Other than this, the content in your videos is very good.
I am aware of it and working hard to improve my pronunciation. Thanks for the feedback, it helps me improve 👍✈️
88 shot down, 30destroyed on the ground and 50 returned makes 168 not 174. Did I miss a bit?? Very interesting watch thank you.
That is very true and to be honest I am not sure. Quite often these statistics are a massed from a variety of sources. However I can confirm that sources agree that 118 of the type were lost. Being war there can also be some confusion over precise numbers. I have found with other types that statistics don't always add up exactly. Thanks 👍✈️
Looks like it would have made a good submarine hunter !
LySander!
There is no letter Z in Lysander... Good grief!
Ly-sand-er!
LOL, the amount of videos on pootoob that are narrated by either lazy speakers, people with seriously bad speech impediments or just people who do zero research into pronunciations is incredibly vast, it's such a great pity as many of the videos contain great content and are potentially learning tools for generations to come.
Sadly, generations to come will for the most part learn from people that cannot pronounce things correctly and eventually we shall zee duh ejukayschun zyztum tern 2 schyt!
The thing is, there are an ever increasing amount of folk with mental illnesses, autism, physical disabilities which affects their ability to speak properly or just folk with simple speech impediments or speech defects and in any number of these such like issues their confidence to communicate with others will be badly affected.
And so youtube has become a great platform for such people to express themselves by offering them the ability to better communicate with the wider World as a whole, and that is a great thing, well for them it is, and for many viewers too as they do often have seriously interesting things to say even if they say them badly.
Sadly it is not a great thing for those who are more sensitive or intolerant of piss poor pronunciation or presentation, let's cut the lad some slack, it could have been worse I guess, he could have been American too!
Absolutely true, but the amount of WW2 ground crew that gave a toss for a Spartan leader or the Peloponnesian war at all, were probably minimal. Ex public school 'bods' might have got excited about it, but pronouncing it with a 'z', although lazy, would also be true to the spirit of the majority familiar with this type in the RAF. So for me, either pronunciation is correct.
In WW1, Ypres was pronounced phonetically by the average Tommy, as 'Wipers'. Do we honour the memory of 'real men', some ill educated, some not, that gave their lives for all our freedoms in both world wars, by petulantly correcting what would have often been their pronunciation, as if one were the proverbial 'stuffed shirt'..............?
The hedge hopper .
I was under the impression that radial engines were all odd number cylinders, unless double rowed.
Yes it would seem so.
One of many WW2 era aircraft that was essentially obsolete in its intended role as soon as it entered service. It was lucky to find a niche role where it could still perform well.
Yes indeed. The Defiant was another such aircraft that had similar circumstances.
And the Fairey Battle.
I cant find anything...is that a window by the tail? Why?
I'm not sure either, and can't find any info. Possibly to put cameras in.
Shouldn't Lysander be pronounced with an 's'. not a 'z'?
What is a Yunkins 87?
Probably a Junkers
It was never called liezander but ly sander Lysander . Nick name Lizzie . I guess you have a spech impediment . I mean no disrespect . As always a great video 👍
I try my best with pronouciation but often get one or two wrong words wrong. The reason I went with Liezander was that I watched a video on it and thought that's how it was pronounced. Turned out I had misheard them 😬 Thank you 👍✈️
It's pronounced lie 'sand' er not zander
Apologies. I try my best to get it correct, but sometimes I just can't get rid of my own spin on the word.
@@AntiqueAirshow It's a name not a word!
Pronounced Ly Sander
Rugged and tuff looking aircraft. Bush plane no doubt.
Has that look to it . Also has the abilities that would make it a good bush plane
Coulda been a blueprint.
...did someone just set your voice to sarcastic and you don't know how to switch it back?
6:30 Que? Japanese officers?
Yes there is Japanese officers in the image. It is from the Australian War Memorial and this is the caption that accompanies it.
"Rangoon, Burma, c. 1945-08. Three Japanese soldiers stand beside Westland Lysander IIIA V9303 of No. 357 Special Duties (SD) Squadron RAF at Mingaladon airfield. Two RAF crewmen, including a flight lieutenant (right), are aboard the aircraft preparing it for flight, while another RAF crewman stands to the rear of the Japanese soldiers. The aircraft is about to fly the Japanese to remote areas of Burma where they will be parachuted in to Japanese forces who have not yet surrendered in order to tell them that the war has ended. The Japanese will make their parachute jump from the ladder attached to the side of the aircraft. Because of the long distance the aircraft has to travel, an auxiliary fuel tank has been fitted to the underside of its fuselage. (Donor W. Mulford) (Original print held in AWM Archive Store)"
@@AntiqueAirshow That's really interesting, thanks!
@@AntiqueAirshow That's really interesting, thanks!
An interesting video, spoiled for me by the many mispronunciations; 'Lyzander' instead of Lysander, 'Crate' instead of Crete, 'Henshkle' instead of Henschel, 'Corpse' instead of Corps and the absolute howler (repeated many times in this vid) of 'Cladsteen' instead of clandestine (klan - DESS - tyne). These are not just national or regional variation in pronunciations!!!!
This plane is as nasty as my mother-in-law... And he's just as grumpy
Its LySander not LyZander.
For that matter it`s AW-dax not ad-AX.
Come guys, stop all this crap about diction, we were all different, but fought together against the same enemy.
My late uncle, Fred Weston DFC and bar, was a tail gunner on several different heavy bomber types, towards the end of the war he flew clandestine missions to France in Lysanders, heaven knows what they got up to, he never spoke about it to me.
That is very interesting. They were brave men. Lest we forget, RIP
Don't use words you can't pronounce, like "clandestine" and "primarily."
Good info. …but that accent! uggggghhhhh! Thanks for sharing, anyway! ;)
fucking loving your videos content always spot on
Thank you 👍✈️
@@AntiqueAirshow I'm just speaking the truth mate
@@bigbadboo659 Thanks 👍✈