This video is exactly what I am experiencing right now. Only it’s my fellow shooters & not the internet. I joined an informal 200y Varmint shoot last year. Shooting Varmint silhouettes with 3/4 to 1/2 bullseyes at 200y. Great folks, lots of fun & sharing techniques & load data. Everyone sincerely wants to help everyone. I finished the 1st year averaging 5th out of 25 shooters in 6 matches. This year I am struggling to do any better than 10th of 25. & I finally believe much of it, is the radical variation in my shooting techniques, due to advice I’m trying to follow, as opposed to simply shooting, the way I would naturally. I believe there is plenty of room for improvement in my natural technique, it’s just that I need to introduce change, 1 subtle technique at a time, not 6. In my sled, my rifles & loads are so easily capable of winning. On my rest, with me behind the gun, everything falls apart horribly. I can’t even remember now, how I used to shoot. Practice, practice, practice. Introduce 1 shift in technique at a time, until you either improve or determine it doesn’t suit you. Trust yourself & your instincts. Be very careful about blindly eating, what other truly well meaning shooters feed you. Their techniques may not work for you.
Honestly, it's been done. Even the best digital scales drift. Honestly, I think it would be a waste of his time. Digital scales are faster, beam scales are more accurate.
I was banned from SnipersHide for saying almost exactly what you are saying. They claimed I was harassing sponsors which I was not. I was very polite and was able to put up actual measurements for various types of gear I had used. Nothing people selling super expensive gear hate more than a man with experience and integrity talking young men with credit cards out of spending themselves into debt when it is not needed. Do not tell someone to master the solid basics of precision reloading and reading the wind to get you banned! LOL There are times when you really gain a significant advantage with a more expensive piece a gear and times when it will not really make or break you! Knowing the difference comes from experience and trial and error!
I still use that same old scale. At 53, and a non-competitive bench and varmint shooter, I am in no hurry and only shoot a couple thousand rounds a year now. Thanks for another delightful video.
Wow ! This was basically the most real world I've seen about reloading and no BS rant lol thank you I really enjoy watching your videos and yes that would be cool to see the comparison with a budget scale and the Gucci scale
I shoot mid range FTR with as "cheap" of a set up as possible. I have had some success in finishing top 3 in a couple of matches, but I am guilty of "chasing" the perfect load, bullet, seating depth, etc. My novice advice is listen to Keith, John, or Eric... but find something that is repeatable, then practice. Like the channel!
Beam scale V electronic. What most people don't realize is, with a lot of test equipment your quality analog devices are what you use to calibrate electronic equipment. It's just a lot faster with the electronics not really more precise.
I shot H.P. for some years, and reached High Master. I will agree that accuracy and consistency in your equipment is vital and I did the same, single stage RCBS press, with RCBS dies. Loaded thousands of rounds with the combination. Everyone was looking for the winning combo. IME, what you mentioned at the top of this video about shooters is correct, and example, a minute and half shooter will have great difficulty shooting quarter minute groups, but will never admit to it. It`s always the "equipment" which is at fault.They don`t advance because they are not honest with themselves. Seems the shooter is never evaluated, just the equipment.
I just discovered your channel and I already like it a lot. The line that meant the most to me in this video was the comment about all the medals hanging on your wall being won using a one piece die and a set of competition shell holders. Honestly, I didn't know shell holders were a thing, much less special ones for competition. I am new to long distance shooting so there are lots of decisions that I'll have to make, but I'm pretty sure that the 80/20 rule applies to long distance shooting as it does everything I've ever seen. Figuring out the 20 percent of things I need to focus on to get 80 percent of the way to competitive success is an interesting problem and might make for a good video. 🙂
I like my beam scales and trust them... my electronic scales tend to wander... plural because I have more than 1 beam scale and more than one electronic scale.. No auto tricklers thou
@@jetthreat5000 They drift less, but if you do a Google search it's not hard to find people who have found they still drift. A beam scale does not do this. This is why the Prometheus uses a beam scale at its core, not any kind of electronic scale.
My personal experience with reloading equipment is this... You can make some very precise ammo with the inexpensive entry level equipment. But you'll pay for it in time. If you want to make a lot of precise ammo in a short amount of time... Get out your wallet. Precision will cost you in one way or another. It is up to the shooter to decide which is more important to him/her... Money or time.
Great video and advice Keith, you can’t just buy your way to a podium place, sure you can buy your way away from a lot of problems but at the of the day it’s the consistency and repeatability that comes from controlling the process(es) that give you the solid base from which to manage the real-time conditions that affect each shot - and that only comes with time on range. And yes, would be really interested to see the Autotrickler v Beam showdown.
Beam scale wins every time. We use two or three auto trickers to dump .3 grains under and the beam scale for the last little bit. Perfection every time.
I would like to see how your beam scale compares to you $5k electronic scale for accuracy & constancy. I trust my (Ohaus variant) beam scales over my electronic scales ... My best beam scale (Lyman D5) is accurate to within a granule of extruded powder (like Varget) and ~6 granules of fine ball powder (like WC748). My electronic scales (are not high end) all wander when trickling up a charge.
Guys - if you already have a good trickler - the auto trickler can be a big expense - but if you can’t afford the auto trickler get the A&D scale and a pair of tweezers - Run your old trickler and sit the load on the A&D - then add or subtract grains with a pair of tweezers until you are spot on the load you want - this way you can get the exact load every load - if you still miss then this is on you!
How you get better? Shooter/target analysis. Now, what I think about your post, spot on. My Creds: US Distinguished Rifleman, American High Power Rifleman Award in Long-Range, Military Rifle Instructor assisting the USAMU deliver SDM, TTT, and SAFS Training. BTW, I am a hand loader not by preference but for need. At any rate, for sure there are better places and sources for Marksmanship instruction than gleaning from UA-cam videos produced by folks who do not have the credentials to profess on the subject.
Great to see some honesty on YT. This is why I subscribe... alternate views of traditional lore based on mathematical and physicics-based truths. Would love to see the scale vid AND the unsolicited product emails. Thanks for bringing balance and sanity to this community
Sitting at my loading bench I am not a competitive shooter but I have benchrest rifles have competed in short range in high power and I do a few barnyard shoots each year and I got to say I like the neolube it keeps my seating pressures very consistent which increases my accuracy noticeably thank you very much for the information tried many other things this works the best for me
I've got an RCBS 505 scale! I've often wondered how accurate the balance scale is compared to my Lyman scale. I stopped wondering that after seeing how far a single grain of R22 will move the needle. It's why powder comes in "SC" variants now.
*pauses video around **00:04:23* YES, YES, YES, please: shootout between the 505 & the Fx120i. I'm facing that question personally right now. Wondering: if the losd is consistent/accurate/good/shoots, is the variances that 505 pointer really going to show on paper.
Enjoyed that! I would like to see the product placement offers, just for entertainment. Currently reading Rifle Accuracy Facts by Harold R. Vaughn, a retired rocket scientist... interesting book from 1998.
I know that there are all sorts of trolls on the internet, but it never occurred to me that a competitor would disseminate false info to sabotage others.
Not to come out of left field, and the scale test sounds fun, but I'd like to see you test freshly loaded ammo, vs the same ammo thats sat loaded for a month, vs ammo that sat but was seated long and then given a final seat at the same time as the fresh ammo. Ive tried to test this and i think it does make a verifiable difference but im not confident enough in my ability to weed out unintended variables to be confident.
I've tested left over ammo that was over a year old and was final seated just before firing (seating force was within normal values). To my surprise, it had a much lower velocity than expected when compared to freshly loaded ammo. I can only theorize that the powder humidity level changed over time. Additional testing showed that storing the already slow loads in a desiccated container for a month did not improve the velocity much leaving me with a question as to the exact cause. My problem is finding the exact cause. I don't want to put a guess out there. I will only make a video about it *if* I can prove it.
I would love to see the difference between a 505 and the auto trickler set up from canada. How about you tell us what caliber you shoot and your load information. So do the scale comparison.
From the looks of the comments, I'd say the 5-0-5 vs Autotrickler test is going to be verrryy popular indeed. At least the watching of it'll be popular, the results will be what the results will be. Bring it on, pls!
I load with the old equipment because it is what I can afford and what I have and I agree with you 100% just shoot and have fun... enjoy the sport at whatever level Oh I am 73 and still trying to be good.......would love to see a balance beam scale against a digital on the target.. great video...
Great great advice. Too many shooters are buying whatever is touted as the latest new thing with the thinking it will automatically make my group size improve. I've heard people down play shooting for practice because it's wearing my barrel out, too expensive etc etc then justify dropping money on 419 press. Yes it's a nice press but hardly a magical ammo creating wonder. Marketing and money are powerful tools, be wise with your wallet.
I'd be interested to see, if there's any real difference between high-end FL bushing dies vs humble Lee Collet + Redding Body combo. Both work the brass only as much as necessary, but the first set costs 2-3 times as much (at least in Europe).
Great videos Keith would love to see an actual comparison of the scales not so much the trickle,r the beam scale with some added reference points, and a Magnifier or Camera, to make variations in the poise, more discernible. I believe the scales if used by the same person are only a reference. The only time it would be different would be if I gave you a load to be dropped on a different scale. Perhaps an older Ohaus beam, a medium price, load cell electronic, reloaders, brand, and an A&D , analytical balance
I hear you. I am lucky to finally live within driving distance of a club that allows unsupervised 600 yard shooting. It hasn't always been like this, and my success started back when I only had a 100 yard range to work with. I would encourage you to spend some time working out how to work with what you have. I used to shoot at vertical lines to teach myself to make wind calls at short range.
Shot past 300yds for the first time today. I had plenty of prep before hand, strelok ready to go, my own excel sheet to calculate clicks from inches off center from any range, sighted in close at 100yds. 200yds, easy. 300yds with 5.56/6.5cm with good box ammo, no issue. 400yds wasnt too bad with 5.56 & 6.5cm but Bulk .308 ammo is where i had issue. 300yds i wasnt sure i was hitting every time. Recoil made spotting my shots impossible and the targets being a couple feet off the ground made it impossible for me to tell where my miss went. I for sure have new respect for getting on target at 400+. My goal was to hit a 800yd plate... Its going to take some more shooting time. What is the grouping size at 100-200 that you need to be able to make in order to hit at 400+ with a high hit percentage?
i load with a rock chucker, forster dies, and a chargemaster 1500. Gets th job done. I do like gucci gear but thats just because i like it, not the need for it. I get sub half moa with my rifle on a good day and thats good enough for my needs
Quick question, have you ever annealed after sizing? I did it accidently a while back and the seating force seamed exponentially less, or was I mistaken?
I’ve got the Gucci stuff already, AT-V4, Zero press, but don’t see any need for Gucci dies. Red, yellow and green box dies have worked for 40+ years. We could all use a good laugh with a video on stuff they’re trying to get you to pitch.
Surround yourself with the best shooters and compete with them. You will learn quickly about what works and what doesn't. Oh, and I have shot against the best shooters in the country and beat them all one time. Oh memories of 2015. Joe
I would love to see the scale comparison. I ha e delt with a lot that you must have the best of the best to do anything. That is the reason I had stepped back from fclass shooting. Been told your chassis tells me your not serious about the sport and everything else and you know them personally.
Yes, I'd really enjoy watching the outcomes, on target, of using the two different scales! That sounds like a very worthwhile use of my time. No, I'm not being sarcastic. I do think it would benefit me.
@@winninginthewindmaybe they know something we don’t. Maybe there’s a demand among precision shooters for putting fake eyelashes on their new garden gnomes. Another youtuber I watch had a similarly incongruous sponsor and he routinely made fun of the company whilst reading the ad copy but whatever he was doing was working for them, they sponsored him for ~2 years.
If you're wanting to do long range precision, only listen to those who are doing it well. There truly are only a few people out here worth listening to. I stayed confused for an embarrassing amount of time before realizing just how fractured the shooting community is. Lots of hunters out here talking about long range. Their definition of long range is 3-400yrds. Lol
This video is exactly what I am experiencing right now.
Only it’s my fellow shooters & not the internet.
I joined an informal 200y Varmint shoot last year. Shooting Varmint silhouettes with 3/4 to 1/2 bullseyes at 200y. Great folks, lots of fun & sharing techniques & load data. Everyone sincerely wants to help everyone.
I finished the 1st year averaging 5th out of 25 shooters in 6 matches.
This year I am struggling to do any better than 10th of 25.
& I finally believe much of it, is the radical variation in my shooting techniques, due to advice I’m trying to follow, as opposed to simply shooting, the way I would naturally.
I believe there is plenty of room for improvement in my natural technique, it’s just that I need to introduce change, 1 subtle technique at a time, not 6.
In my sled, my rifles & loads are so easily capable of winning.
On my rest, with me behind the gun, everything falls apart horribly.
I can’t even remember now, how I used to shoot.
Practice, practice, practice.
Introduce 1 shift in technique at a time, until you either improve or determine it doesn’t suit you.
Trust yourself & your instincts. Be very careful about blindly eating, what other truly well meaning shooters feed you.
Their techniques may not work for you.
I want the scale test!!!
Yes and yes to the scale test.
I would like to see the beam scale versus Gucci electronic scale test.
Honestly, it's been done.
Even the best digital scales drift.
Honestly, I think it would be a waste of his time. Digital scales are faster, beam scales are more accurate.
I was banned from SnipersHide for saying almost exactly what you are saying. They claimed I was harassing sponsors which I was not. I was very polite and was able to put up actual measurements for various types of gear I had used. Nothing people selling super expensive gear hate more than a man with experience and integrity talking young men with credit cards out of spending themselves into debt when it is not needed. Do not tell someone to master the solid basics of precision reloading and reading the wind to get you banned! LOL There are times when you really gain a significant advantage with a more expensive piece a gear and times when it will not really make or break you! Knowing the difference comes from experience and trial and error!
I still use that same old scale. At 53, and a non-competitive bench and varmint shooter, I am in no hurry and only shoot a couple thousand rounds a year now. Thanks for another delightful video.
yes on the scale shoot out
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Yes, I would like to see a comparison between the RCBS 505 and the auto trickler system. I find your videos most informative and I await the next one.
Wow ! This was basically the most real world I've seen about reloading and no BS rant lol thank you I really enjoy watching your videos and yes that would be cool to see the comparison with a budget scale and the Gucci scale
The gauntlet has been thrown. Gravity vs electromagnetism.
Run the test !
Beam scale competition please. I trust gravity a lot.
As a beam scale user, let's see the test! I'm on team beam.
Love my beam scales. I have all the old RCBS ones.
Yes please! Reloading for 26 years, RCBS 505
Ohaus beam scale. Had inconsistent loads with electric scales.
I want both videos!
I shoot mid range FTR with as "cheap" of a set up as possible. I have had some success in finishing top 3 in a couple of matches, but I am guilty of "chasing" the perfect load, bullet, seating depth, etc. My novice advice is listen to Keith, John, or Eric... but find something that is repeatable, then practice. Like the channel!
Agree with the other posters, would like to see a video with the beam scale test.
I would LOVE to see a balance beam v auto-trickler on target comparison.
I would like to see a scale comparison
Beam scale V electronic. What most people don't realize is, with a lot of test equipment your quality analog devices are what you use to calibrate electronic equipment. It's just a lot faster with the electronics not really more precise.
100% agree. Smallbore shooter here who has done well. Don’t just practice, have a training plan. There is a big difference n those 2 things.
I would love to see a video with your humor and the adds they want to run. Bring it on!
I shot H.P. for some years, and reached High Master. I will agree that accuracy and consistency in your equipment is vital and I did the same, single stage RCBS press, with RCBS dies. Loaded thousands of rounds with the combination. Everyone was looking for the winning combo. IME, what you mentioned at the top of this video about shooters is correct, and example, a minute and half shooter will have great difficulty shooting quarter minute groups, but will never admit to it. It`s always the "equipment" which is at fault.They don`t advance because they are not honest with themselves. Seems the shooter is never evaluated, just the equipment.
Thanks fer sharing honesty,....this was truth & honesty at its best.
+1 on beam scale test
I just discovered your channel and I already like it a lot. The line that meant the most to me in this video was the comment about all the medals hanging on your wall being won using a one piece die and a set of competition shell holders. Honestly, I didn't know shell holders were a thing, much less special ones for competition. I am new to long distance shooting so there are lots of decisions that I'll have to make, but I'm pretty sure that the 80/20 rule applies to long distance shooting as it does everything I've ever seen. Figuring out the 20 percent of things I need to focus on to get 80 percent of the way to competitive success is an interesting problem and might make for a good video. 🙂
I 100% believe a cheap beam scale is as good as an electric scale just slower. Yeah let's see it.
I like my beam scales and trust them... my electronic scales tend to wander... plural because I have more than 1 beam scale and more than one electronic scale.. No auto tricklers thou
-as good- better
@@wilfdarryeah, not better than an A&D FX120i or a Sartorius lol
@@jetthreat5000 They drift less, but if you do a Google search it's not hard to find people who have found they still drift. A beam scale does not do this. This is why the Prometheus uses a beam scale at its core, not any kind of electronic scale.
Another excellent video from you Keith, thank you !
I would like to see the test also.
My personal experience with reloading equipment is this...
You can make some very precise ammo with the inexpensive entry level equipment. But you'll pay for it in time.
If you want to make a lot of precise ammo in a short amount of time... Get out your wallet.
Precision will cost you in one way or another. It is up to the shooter to decide which is more important to him/her... Money or time.
I'd love to see the scale test. All my shootin buddies tell me, that second digit. after the decimal on my scale, means nothing.
Great video and advice Keith, you can’t just buy your way to a podium place, sure you can buy your way away from a lot of problems but at the of the day it’s the consistency and repeatability that comes from controlling the process(es) that give you the solid base from which to manage the real-time conditions that affect each shot - and that only comes with time on range. And yes, would be really interested to see the Autotrickler v Beam showdown.
There are multiple ways of doing it "right" and endless ways of doing it wrong ;)
Beam scale with Lee collet and seater dies....amp up the anti bling factor..vs bling gear
I really love this channel. Keep up the excellent work!
Beam scale wins every time. We use two or three auto trickers to dump .3 grains under and the beam scale for the last little bit. Perfection every time.
I would love to see the scale comparison.
I would like to see how your beam scale compares to you $5k electronic scale for accuracy & constancy.
I trust my (Ohaus variant) beam scales over my electronic scales ... My best beam scale (Lyman D5) is accurate to within a granule of extruded powder (like Varget) and ~6 granules of fine ball powder (like WC748). My electronic scales (are not high end) all wander when trickling up a charge.
NICE! great food for thought. I really appreciate some of your perspectives. Thank you.
Keith, Balance beam vs. Trickler video would do it for me... Pete
Yea to the scale test 😀
Guys - if you already have a good trickler - the auto trickler can be a big expense - but if you can’t afford the auto trickler get the A&D scale and a pair of tweezers - Run your old trickler and sit the load on the A&D - then add or subtract grains with a pair of tweezers until you are spot on the load you want - this way you can get the exact load every load - if you still miss then this is on you!
Yes do the 505 to Autotrickler video. My loads are stable enough I cant tell the difference.
You are perfectly right!
How you get better? Shooter/target analysis. Now, what I think about your post, spot on. My Creds: US Distinguished Rifleman, American High Power Rifleman Award in Long-Range, Military Rifle Instructor assisting the USAMU deliver SDM, TTT, and SAFS Training. BTW, I am a hand loader not by preference but for need. At any rate, for sure there are better places and sources for Marksmanship instruction than gleaning from UA-cam videos produced by folks who do not have the credentials to profess on the subject.
Great video and insight. The market really pulls people in and attracts to the new hotness.
I'd like to see the beam vs lab grade scale.
I also want the lawn gnome with lashes video!
Great to see some honesty on YT. This is why I subscribe... alternate views of traditional lore based on mathematical and physicics-based truths. Would love to see the scale vid AND the unsolicited product emails. Thanks for bringing balance and sanity to this community
Much appreciated!
Sitting at my loading bench I am not a competitive shooter but I have benchrest rifles have competed in short range in high power and I do a few barnyard shoots each year and I got to say I like the neolube it keeps my seating pressures very consistent which increases my accuracy noticeably thank you very much for the information tried many other things this works the best for me
Yes to the scale test. Also the time investment between the two. Great video.
I've got an RCBS 505 scale! I've often wondered how accurate the balance scale is compared to my Lyman scale. I stopped wondering that after seeing how far a single grain of R22 will move the needle. It's why powder comes in "SC" variants now.
*pauses video around **00:04:23* YES, YES, YES, please: shootout between the 505 & the Fx120i. I'm facing that question personally right now. Wondering: if the losd is consistent/accurate/good/shoots, is the variances that 505 pointer really going to show on paper.
Thanks for the good advice.
Enjoyed that! I would like to see the product placement offers, just for entertainment. Currently reading Rifle Accuracy Facts by Harold R. Vaughn, a retired rocket scientist... interesting book from 1998.
Would love to see the comparison. I plan on getting a RCB digital scale however for speed
Love to see a test old school equipment VS your current set up.
Yes to the balance beam test.
I know that there are all sorts of trolls on the internet, but it never occurred to me that a competitor would disseminate false info to sabotage others.
It’s like Italian grandmothers. You never hand out the real family recipes.
Great video Keith - you're not just another shooter! Keep up the excellent advice.
Not to come out of left field, and the scale test sounds fun, but I'd like to see you test freshly loaded ammo, vs the same ammo thats sat loaded for a month, vs ammo that sat but was seated long and then given a final seat at the same time as the fresh ammo.
Ive tried to test this and i think it does make a verifiable difference but im not confident enough in my ability to weed out unintended variables to be confident.
I've tested left over ammo that was over a year old and was final seated just before firing (seating force was within normal values). To my surprise, it had a much lower velocity than expected when compared to freshly loaded ammo. I can only theorize that the powder humidity level changed over time. Additional testing showed that storing the already slow loads in a desiccated container for a month did not improve the velocity much leaving me with a question as to the exact cause. My problem is finding the exact cause. I don't want to put a guess out there. I will only make a video about it *if* I can prove it.
I would love to see the difference between a 505 and the auto trickler set up from canada. How about you tell us what caliber you shoot and your load information. So do the scale comparison.
From the looks of the comments, I'd say the 5-0-5 vs Autotrickler test is going to be verrryy popular indeed. At least the watching of it'll be popular, the results will be what the results will be. Bring it on, pls!
Let’s see the test sir!
I load with the old equipment because it is what I can afford and what I have and I agree with you 100% just shoot and have fun... enjoy the sport at whatever level Oh I am 73 and still trying to be good.......would love to see a balance beam scale against a digital on the target.. great video...
The only thing that can beat a balance beam is time.
Great great advice. Too many shooters are buying whatever is touted as the latest new thing with the thinking it will automatically make my group size improve. I've heard people down play shooting for practice because it's wearing my barrel out, too expensive etc etc then justify dropping money on 419 press. Yes it's a nice press but hardly a magical ammo creating wonder. Marketing and money are powerful tools, be wise with your wallet.
i use a balance scale since the beginning, although i shoot just precision tournaments but it is really accurate scale.
Amen.
I love the "Keith Glasscock #NeverDroveAFerrari"
I'd be interested to see, if there's any real difference between high-end FL bushing dies vs humble Lee Collet + Redding Body combo.
Both work the brass only as much as necessary, but the first set costs 2-3 times as much (at least in Europe).
Especially Lee collets produce a very small runout. Great dies.
Sr. I alwas enjoy, like and learn from your videos, thank you very much!
Great videos Keith would love to see an actual comparison of the scales not so much the trickle,r the beam scale with some added reference points, and a Magnifier or Camera, to make variations in the poise, more discernible. I believe the scales if used by the same person are only a reference. The only time it would be different would be if I gave you a load to be dropped on a different scale. Perhaps an older Ohaus beam, a medium price, load cell electronic, reloaders, brand, and an A&D , analytical balance
Perhaps throw in a little static, electricity and some fluorescent lighting
Lack of ranges with any distance here in Illinois is what holding me back
I hear you. I am lucky to finally live within driving distance of a club that allows unsupervised 600 yard shooting. It hasn't always been like this, and my success started back when I only had a 100 yard range to work with. I would encourage you to spend some time working out how to work with what you have. I used to shoot at vertical lines to teach myself to make wind calls at short range.
Yes, let’s see the balance beam scale test!
Shot past 300yds for the first time today. I had plenty of prep before hand, strelok ready to go, my own excel sheet to calculate clicks from inches off center from any range, sighted in close at 100yds.
200yds, easy. 300yds with 5.56/6.5cm with good box ammo, no issue. 400yds wasnt too bad with 5.56 & 6.5cm but Bulk .308 ammo is where i had issue. 300yds i wasnt sure i was hitting every time. Recoil made spotting my shots impossible and the targets being a couple feet off the ground made it impossible for me to tell where my miss went.
I for sure have new respect for getting on target at 400+. My goal was to hit a 800yd plate... Its going to take some more shooting time.
What is the grouping size at 100-200 that you need to be able to make in order to hit at 400+ with a high hit percentage?
i load with a rock chucker, forster dies, and a chargemaster 1500. Gets th job done. I do like gucci gear but thats just because i like it, not the need for it. I get sub half moa with my rifle on a good day and thats good enough for my needs
I started on an RCBS Rock Chucker package, I used the balance beam, for many yrs.. let’s see the test……
Yes.
Yes lets see the test!!!!!!
I’d rather see a test of a batch of ammo with powder loads that vary by .1-.2gr and see how much of a difference it actually makes to trickle charge
Quick question, have you ever annealed after sizing? I did it accidently a while back and the seating force seamed exponentially less, or was I mistaken?
I’ve got the Gucci stuff already, AT-V4, Zero press, but don’t see any need for Gucci dies. Red, yellow and green box dies have worked for 40+ years.
We could all use a good laugh with a video on stuff they’re trying to get you to pitch.
What you have sais is so true.
I would love that test.
Especially on 600 and less.
Time is also something that needs to be taken into account. If I can save time by using something faster I will..
YES, that would be an awesome video, too see what sponsors you've turned down!
Prometheus, gucci beamscale.
Surround yourself with the best shooters and compete with them. You will learn quickly about what works and what doesn't.
Oh, and I have shot against the best shooters in the country and beat them all one time. Oh memories of 2015.
Joe
I would love to see the scale comparison. I ha e delt with a lot that you must have the best of the best to do anything. That is the reason I had stepped back from fclass shooting. Been told your chassis tells me your not serious about the sport and everything else and you know them personally.
Yes, hit us with a balance beam v auto-t, please.
Yes, I'd really enjoy watching the outcomes, on target, of using the two different scales! That sounds like a very worthwhile use of my time. No, I'm not being sarcastic. I do think it would benefit me.
i love the irony here...
....."chasing"....LMAO.....SO true, & the first thing that came to mind was a looney tooner......LOL !!!
Lets see the test
You should do a 100% advert video, I’d love to know the ROI on your peddling eyelashes and gnomes.
So, should I tell them all "yes" and then hang all of the stuff together? I might need to do a bit of planning...
@@winninginthewindmaybe they know something we don’t. Maybe there’s a demand among precision shooters for putting fake eyelashes on their new garden gnomes. Another youtuber I watch had a similarly incongruous sponsor and he routinely made fun of the company whilst reading the ad copy but whatever he was doing was working for them, they sponsored him for ~2 years.
Let's see the crapola they want you to sell.
If you're wanting to do long range precision, only listen to those who are doing it well.
There truly are only a few people out here worth listening to.
I stayed confused for an embarrassing amount of time before realizing just how fractured the shooting community is. Lots of hunters out here talking about long range.
Their definition of long range is 3-400yrds. Lol
Critical thinking applies to everything.
Neck size only....ha
We could do that too.
I use rcbs m500 scale with a camera on zero zoomed in and I've always thought it was just as accurate as the A&D
That sounds like the way to go. I'm going to try that
Keith watch this video so true
50% of shooters arent in the top 50%