Running the Mezcal/Peyote 2.4” on the Front/Rear of my Specialized Chisel HT. Been running it through Scottish ‘summer’ on mostly gravel/light xc rides. Absolutely love the combo. Impressive amounts of grip while rolling like greased lightning. I’m surprised at how decent the grip is in the wet and they only get out of sorts in the mud. I agree on your comments about how lively they feel, however I think the robustness works well for me (I’m heavy at 115kg). I run them full speed into sharp granite and I’ve had not a whisper of a puncture. Going to roll with them until autumn/winter properly sets in up here then the Barzo/Mezcal is going back on. I’m shocked at the apparent lack of wear after several hundred miles on them!
Thanks for the review, I've been eyeing the Vittoria Peyote since I first saw them at Sea Otter Classic last April. They are definitely going on my new build - Scott Scale 940. Cheers!
I tried a Barzo/Mezcal 2.35" front/rear combo of my Chisel after seeing so very many endurance, bikepacking racers use them. They need fast, reliable and light tyres and I have to say, I'm very impressed and can definitely see why they get used so much by such folk. A huge difference is that I now don't hate riding an MTB on long tarmac sections and despite that, they are also very fast and grippy on the rough stuff too. Most boring and drama free tyres I've ever used and that is a very good thing. They just seem to work very well, even in our soggy winters and on our rocky trails. Not noticed any of the potential issues you mentioned, but I may be running a few PSI higher than yourself. 20-22psi
Iv got this on rear & new mezcal on front , after your review of the mezcal & running at highs pressures I increased to 21 & 23 I’m loving them both, typically I ran lower pressures but this combo is a game changer “ for me anyway “
form my adventure riding is super - peyote plus peyote I rode it with syerra and it good combo traction and speed , I still have to try them terreno back peyote front I used to ride these sets with a rim with an internal width of 25 mm, now I'm changing to 27 mm, I think it's the golden mean between width and driving qualities
I'm running barzo/mezcal 120tpi on my xc ht ( schwalbe for the last 10 years) and the speed and grip are great but now you've said about the folding, you are bang on. I thought it was my narrow crest rims but ray and ralph never did this.
I have been running barzo front mezcal rear for the last...300 years 😂 they do what they are meant to do at the correct pressures in various types of terrain. now the question is, would it be better to have peyote front and rear or peyote front mezcal rear!? I don't see the benefits of having the bigger treaded mezcal in the front and the slick-ish peyote at the rear, it just doesn't make sense!?
Looks interesting. Good substitute for a Mezcal for some UK multi terrain ultras? Sometimes I feel I could do with some more grip but wouldn't want to lose the speed of the Mezcal on the tarmac
Thanks for the video, I was very curious about this new Peyote. I ride 16-18 psi + Vittoria air liner in rear. Would you recomend peyote/peyote or peyote/mezcal or other fast rolling combinations for mostly dry but universal marathons?
Yeah the air liner should help with stability. The go to seems to be Barzo front and Peyote rear but Mezcal / Peyote is probably faster if you're OK with a bit of drift up front. I'd only suggest double Peyote for skilled / careful riders
I did the same race on a Barzo and Fast Trak. And the Barzo is superior in every way. It offers a really good traction on rooty/technical climbs at the back and you won't ever have a washout, if you put in on the front wheel.
Volume apart, how would it compare to Continental Race King or Schwalbe Thunder Burt, because I have experience with those two and they have a very low rolling resistance and are super fast tires ? Thank you for the review.
@@toxicblackwidow9841 I’d put both those tires ahead of the Peyote when it comes to rolling speed. Particularly Race King. Keen to test Rick XC though as I’ve heard they’re crazy quick from a racer friend who’s borrowed some
Should be OK but they'll need to be at a decent pressure to stop them folding over in corners. They'll be taller and narrower than intended too so maybe a 2.25in Terreno Dry might work better?
Just recently I ran my Michelin dh22/34 2.4 combo on 25mm internal DT X1900 spline wheels for a whole mountain adventure trip on a hardtail without any hiccups. If that can help...
Just about to start testing Cross King but Race King are insane. They feel road tyre fast but you’ll need skill to keep them hooked up in loose and slippery conditions as they’re very rounded and the compound is hard
@@GuyKesTV I just did 22 miles on the RRs today (on an Orbea Alma hardtail). I'm amazed at how they hold their grip even on loose, sandy southern California desert-like trails. Thanks for the good reviews. Your opinion on the Cervelo ZFS-5 120 sold me on the bike and I picked one up several months ago.
@@TheBaldTruth1 cheers man, I’m jealous of your sand. The autumn rain started here last night and last year it carried on until about July 😵💫 Hope you’re enjoying the ZFS anyway, I love that bike
@@GuyKesTV Coming from a Gen 5 Trek Fuel EX (carbon), the ZFS is like a graceful lady you want to dance with all the time instead of a chubby, clumsy oaf stepping on my feet. I guess i discovered I am more of an XC guy rather than a send-it trail guy. The ZFS-5 120 suspension is great at knowing how to behave both on the climbs and the descents. It was a long and costly journey to find the right bike for the terrain I ride, but the ZFS feels perfect. I was eying a Santa Cruz Blur, but the ZFS was on sale here for 35% off MSRP and seeing how the two bikes were very close, I went with the bargain. Then I added some We Are One carbon wheels, which are nice. I look forward to watching more content from you.
Aspens are cheaper and more readily available right now. The peyote as a rear tire works but definitely not as a front. Theres VERY little traction in the center tread, although it does have decent cornering knobs. I feel the Peyote rolls slightly faster than the Aspen and a little more puncture resistant too with the 60tpi casing.
@@MTB_CRZY its not just feel, check at bicyclerollingresistance , its the fastest 2.4 tire, even faster than Aspen ST 170tpi... I run it front and back since june, (14-15 psi at front 16-17 at back and never go back to 2.2 RaceKing thats for sure.... It corners like nothing else, i feel it almost corners by itself :) Will it be faster than Rick XC? Well they will get tested next month and hopefully Continental will make the RaceKing 2.4 available at that time... or at least before the end of 24'
@@passista I am on the same page looking for next season fastest possible but still reasonabely gripy set up. Considering: Peyote + ??? // Rick XC + Rick XC /// Race King + Race King (if they make 2,4) 😵💫
@@grantw425 that definitely sucks. Have you checked the valves haven’t loosened somehow. I spent ages last week trying to find a hole in a tyre before I realised that the valve core was leaking slightly as it had got gummed with sealant
@GuyKesTV yip, put them in a swimming pool. Definitely tiny bubbles coming out the sidewalls, not where the tyre and rim meet, but but above that. Sent video to local bike shop. Lets see, but thanka for the replies, and keep going with the great content 👍
I tried them as a rear tire with mezcal front and I think they are total crap, no grip no traction no nothing for real mountain biking, swapped them for my fast traks sworks which are way better everywhere
Might have to check these out. Currently on 2.4 Aspens on 30mm - and they are proper quick too!
It's great to see a dedicated XC race tire in a 2.4" width. 2.2" just isn't enough for a lot of tracks.
Yep, they’re all heading that way now. Though few actually measure up to 2.4!
umm, it is a 2.2. iirc the Pirelli XC RC is 2.4.
The only problem with 2,4" tires that they not or barely fit in older hardtail frames. But 2,25" at back and 2,4" at front is a strong combo.
@@trentvlakit’s not made in 2.2” only 2.4”
@@ian_pedalz 2.4 advertised but that is not what is measured.
Running the Mezcal/Peyote 2.4” on the Front/Rear of my Specialized Chisel HT. Been running it through Scottish ‘summer’ on mostly gravel/light xc rides.
Absolutely love the combo. Impressive amounts of grip while rolling like greased lightning. I’m surprised at how decent the grip is in the wet and they only get out of sorts in the mud. I agree on your comments about how lively they feel, however I think the robustness works well for me (I’m heavy at 115kg). I run them full speed into sharp granite and I’ve had not a whisper of a puncture.
Going to roll with them until autumn/winter properly sets in up here then the Barzo/Mezcal is going back on. I’m shocked at the apparent lack of wear after several hundred miles on them!
@@BrackDynamite that’s great feedback thanks. The new construction certainly seems super durable in terms of impacts and wear 👌🏻
Thanks for the review,
I've been eyeing the Vittoria Peyote since I first saw them at Sea Otter Classic last April. They are definitely going on my new build - Scott Scale 940.
Cheers!
That's going to be super fast!
I tried a Barzo/Mezcal 2.35" front/rear combo of my Chisel after seeing so very many endurance, bikepacking racers use them. They need fast, reliable and light tyres and I have to say, I'm very impressed and can definitely see why they get used so much by such folk. A huge difference is that I now don't hate riding an MTB on long tarmac sections and despite that, they are also very fast and grippy on the rough stuff too.
Most boring and drama free tyres I've ever used and that is a very good thing. They just seem to work very well, even in our soggy winters and on our rocky trails. Not noticed any of the potential issues you mentioned, but I may be running a few PSI higher than yourself. 20-22psi
Iv got this on rear & new mezcal on front , after your review of the mezcal & running at highs pressures I increased to 21 & 23 I’m loving them both, typically I ran lower pressures but this combo is a game changer “ for me anyway “
Thanks for the feedback Harvey, stoked that raising the pressure a bit has worked for you 👍🏻
It looks like an amazing bikepacking tire ^^
yeeep it is and have good comfort
form my adventure riding is super - peyote plus peyote
I rode it with syerra and it good combo traction and speed , I still have to try them terreno back peyote front
I used to ride these sets with a rim with an internal width of 25 mm, now I'm changing to 27 mm, I think it's the golden mean between width and driving qualities
I’m running Aspen St 2.4 are these any faster???I gotta these
I'm running barzo/mezcal 120tpi on my xc ht ( schwalbe for the last 10 years) and the speed and grip are great but now you've said about the folding, you are bang on. I thought it was my narrow crest rims but ray and ralph never did this.
Hope I've not spoiled them for you but it's definitely a thing eh? 😬
I want to try this on the rear but my Mezcal in the front has a grey sidewall. Might still have to go for it though 🤢.
I have been running barzo front mezcal rear for the last...300 years 😂 they do what they are meant to do at the correct pressures in various types of terrain. now the question is, would it be better to have peyote front and rear or peyote front mezcal rear!? I don't see the benefits of having the bigger treaded mezcal in the front and the slick-ish peyote at the rear, it just doesn't make sense!?
Bikepacking suitable, drop bar MTB?
Ideal for it
this are gravel tire for mtb 😛
Looks interesting. Good substitute for a Mezcal for some UK multi terrain ultras? Sometimes I feel I could do with some more grip but wouldn't want to lose the speed of the Mezcal on the tarmac
In most conditions this grips less than the Mezcal, but it's more predictably less if you get what I mean. Definitely faster roll too.
@@GuyKesTV Thanks, the shoulders looked like they had bigger tread than the Mezcal?
@@CycleXplorer it’s a similar size. Just looks bigger as the centre is smaller tread
@@GuyKesTV ahh I see thanks
Antoine using this on Crest MK4 rim? Is it a good rim for light rider?
Thanks for the video, I was very curious about this new Peyote. I ride 16-18 psi + Vittoria air liner in rear. Would you recomend peyote/peyote or peyote/mezcal or other fast rolling combinations for mostly dry but universal marathons?
Yeah the air liner should help with stability. The go to seems to be Barzo front and Peyote rear but Mezcal / Peyote is probably faster if you're OK with a bit of drift up front. I'd only suggest double Peyote for skilled / careful riders
The title definitely got my attention
@@323johnnybravo sorry, shameless click bait 🤣
Love it in the rear, especially climbing feels lighter/faster. However what to run in the front? The mezcal feels too unstable for me
If you want to stick to Vittoria - maybe try Barzo.
Wolfpack Race 2.4
@@velio84 Yes I have Barzo as winter tyre however they are skinwall, first world problems :-)
Syerra 2.4
I did the same race on a Barzo and Fast Trak. And the Barzo is superior in every way. It offers a really good traction on rooty/technical climbs at the back and you won't ever have a washout, if you put in on the front wheel.
Volume apart, how would it compare to Continental Race King or Schwalbe Thunder Burt, because I have experience with those two and they have a very low rolling resistance and are super fast tires ? Thank you for the review.
@@toxicblackwidow9841 I’d put both those tires ahead of the Peyote when it comes to rolling speed. Particularly Race King. Keen to test Rick XC though as I’ve heard they’re crazy quick from a racer friend who’s borrowed some
Rocking this on the front and the race king on rear, super fun!
What do you think about mount these on a 25 mm internal rims?
Should be OK but they'll need to be at a decent pressure to stop them folding over in corners. They'll be taller and narrower than intended too so maybe a 2.25in Terreno Dry might work better?
Just recently I ran my Michelin dh22/34 2.4 combo on 25mm internal DT X1900 spline wheels for a whole mountain adventure trip on a hardtail without any hiccups. If that can help...
they are ok but watch out they are fast
Have you ever tried the continental race king and cross king tires? thoughts on those?
Just about to start testing Cross King but Race King are insane. They feel road tyre fast but you’ll need skill to keep them hooked up in loose and slippery conditions as they’re very rounded and the compound is hard
I'm waiting for the new Vittoria LSD or maybe the Opium...
I reckon the Ketamine would be the most damped 🤣
How would you compare this to Maxxis Rekon Race? They came on my hardtail and are shockingly good leaning on flat corners.
@@TheBaldTruth1 definitely stick with the RR if you want to lean into corners. Better carcass feel too.
@@GuyKesTV I just did 22 miles on the RRs today (on an Orbea Alma hardtail). I'm amazed at how they hold their grip even on loose, sandy southern California desert-like trails. Thanks for the good reviews. Your opinion on the Cervelo ZFS-5 120 sold me on the bike and I picked one up several months ago.
@@TheBaldTruth1 cheers man, I’m jealous of your sand. The autumn rain started here last night and last year it carried on until about July 😵💫 Hope you’re enjoying the ZFS anyway, I love that bike
@@GuyKesTV Coming from a Gen 5 Trek Fuel EX (carbon), the ZFS is like a graceful lady you want to dance with all the time instead of a chubby, clumsy oaf stepping on my feet. I guess i discovered I am more of an XC guy rather than a send-it trail guy. The ZFS-5 120 suspension is great at knowing how to behave both on the climbs and the descents. It was a long and costly journey to find the right bike for the terrain I ride, but the ZFS feels perfect. I was eying a Santa Cruz Blur, but the ZFS was on sale here for 35% off MSRP and seeing how the two bikes were very close, I went with the bargain. Then I added some We Are One carbon wheels, which are nice. I look forward to watching more content from you.
Peyote or Aspen?
@@JeremyMartin-k5m I need to try the new MaxxSpeed compound Aspen but based on smoother carcass feel I’d probably go Maxxis.
Aspens are cheaper and more readily available right now. The peyote as a rear tire works but definitely not as a front. Theres VERY little traction in the center tread, although it does have decent cornering knobs. I feel the Peyote rolls slightly faster than the Aspen and a little more puncture resistant too with the 60tpi casing.
@@MTB_CRZY thanks for the extra intel, it’s been a while since I’ve ridden Aspen
@@MTB_CRZY its not just feel, check at bicyclerollingresistance , its the fastest 2.4 tire, even faster than Aspen ST 170tpi... I run it front and back since june, (14-15 psi at front 16-17 at back and never go back to 2.2 RaceKing thats for sure.... It corners like nothing else, i feel it almost corners by itself :) Will it be faster than Rick XC? Well they will get tested next month and hopefully Continental will make the RaceKing 2.4 available at that time... or at least before the end of 24'
@@passista I am on the same page looking for next season fastest possible but still reasonabely gripy set up. Considering: Peyote + ??? // Rick XC + Rick XC /// Race King + Race King (if they make 2,4) 😵💫
Wolfpack Speed 2.4; around 670gm.
@@haemstah awesome to hear from another Wolfpack fan. Love those tyres but really hard to get hold of these days
I bought a pair and found they lose 25% pressure overnight. Is this normal? Seems to be reliant on sealant (which isnt the case with other brands)...
Hmmm. Was that the first night (normal) or are they still doing it after being re inflated (not normal) ?
@@GuyKesTV its been 3 weeks and 3 rides later :(
@@grantw425 that definitely sucks. Have you checked the valves haven’t loosened somehow. I spent ages last week trying to find a hole in a tyre before I realised that the valve core was leaking slightly as it had got gummed with sealant
@GuyKesTV yip, put them in a swimming pool. Definitely tiny bubbles coming out the sidewalls, not where the tyre and rim meet, but but above that. Sent video to local bike shop. Lets see, but thanka for the replies, and keep going with the great content 👍
I tried them as a rear tire with mezcal front and I think they are total crap, no grip no traction no nothing for real mountain biking, swapped them for my fast traks sworks which are way better everywhere
760g 2.25 tire. LOL. I no longer tolerate manuf deception on $100 bicycle tires. FU Vittoria!
@@trentvlak at least the weight was right 🤷♂️ That’s pretty rare TBH
@@GuyKesTV Conti has been good about both weight and width since 2018. Schwalbe, Kenda, and Specialized, total liars.
@@trentvlak actually that's true about Conti, Maxxis are BS with their numbers too