The lesson and point being that we really can't ascertain what the nephilim were, but we can be certain that they were not strictly human, and neither would be an IA blended human. "...there is no new thing under the sun" points to the Modern day Nephilim.
"Facing the giants" Numbers 13:33 “And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.” 1 Samuel 17:40 “And he took his staff in his hand, and chose him five smooth stones out of the brook, and put them in a shepherd's bag which he had, even in a scrip; and his sling was in his hand: and he drew near to the Philistine.” "Are you okay, Annie? You've been hit by, you've been hit by a smooth criminal"... Michael Jackson ua-cam.com/video/RcSBp2xusRo/v-deo.htmlsi=yAbgtahTGRa2kluR
@anewson Sir, if you believe fallen angels fathered giants, name a giant who didn't have a "human father" and I will respectfully prove you wrong. Hebrews 1:5 discards the whole idea that the "sons of GOD" were angels. Also Genesis 6:1 says they were "men" !!!
@@unleavenedkaraiteplus3412 Blessings brother. I am still looking at the glass darkly, but I look at numbers 13:33 as being in contrast to Matthew 13:33. In the heavenlies I look at the Giants as being the many, like Legion. Mark 5:9 “And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.” The three measures of meal is Hebrews 11:1. Three men in a tub. "Many is a word that only leaves you guessing Guessing 'bout a thing you really ought to know, oh, oh, oh, oh" .... Led Zeppelin over the hills and far away Matthew 26:28 “For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.” Sometimes the Giants we have to overcome are dogmas. "Losing My Religion"...REM Peace...
They were big, muscular warriors, and the men commanded to destroy them were cowards. So they exaggerated to get out of going to war. This angered God greatly.
This is an interesting take. However, he is not including all reference materials available. This happens so often in Christian churches. Why is the Bible theconly book that no one wants a background story or point of reference to interpret and understand? If the nephilim were not giants, where did the giants come from???
I am wondering what a "giant" actually is? How big? How tall? How strong? Tom did mention Goliath. Some say that Goliath was 9 feet tall. Are not archeologists finding proof of giants in the land? There is much to research. 🤔
@cat-bg3rv When the twelve spies came back to report on the land, they said we are like grasshoppers to them. They also brought back a bunch of grapes that was so large it needed 2 to 4 people to carry it. That sounds pretty big to me. 😁
Nobody teaches this better than Tom in this video. I wish Heiser was around to hear this video. You cannot understand the flood if you don't understand this.
Tom, while doing his best to be informed on the subject, couldn’t and does not hold a candle to Michael Heiser in scholarship of ancient information. It’s not even close.
Read the book of Enoch and also the words of Josephus. Look also at the stories of America's indigenous people and the history of Spanish priests who saw these creatures when they came to the America's
Boy how I wish we could 'hook up'... we'd work well together. The Hebrew word used for renown - as in 'men of renown' - is 'shem'... or 'name'. Consider then 'the name' as in... yup... hashem. Can ya see it?
You are partly right. The sons of God were the Therianthrope species that were the chosen ones before humanity was anointed as the final chosen species. They were not all evil, but many viewed humanity as a servant species, like we do livestock and pets. In addition, some of the previous chosen species were shapeshifters of the line of Lilith, who masqueraded as Nephelim to sow hate for all the giants and therianthropes and get humanity to slaughter the very species that had saved them from many Great Resets of the adversary. Lilithian species draw power from sex and death magic. This is an example of how truth is twisted by the adversary to divide and conquer chosen species and chosen people. As you probably realize, not all WW2 era Germans were evil, and not all modern day Jews are good. The adversary's agents hide in plain sight under cover of disguises, now more than ever, when pig lipstick is so easy to apply
Thank you for this presentation. I absolutely agree with your conclusions as one who has studied this subject for 30 years. The languages of the Bible do not descibe giants as a race of 9ft tall people. Were there genetic defects of gigantism? Yes. Goliath and his brother were probably this. Were there people over 7ft tall? Very possible. I worked for a major Christian book publisher founded by a member of the Dutch Reformed Church. The president is 6ft, 8 in., and his brother is over 7ft tall. The dutch women average 6ft tall, in Holland, Michigan. As one who studies science as well, people of 9ft tall cannot handle the gravity of Earth as it is today. Their hearts eventually give out. It's a math equation (weight vs. Muscle volume, etc.) Gravity has to do with the electromagnetism of the earth and resdistibution of charge. That's why the elephant is largest mammel today. Land animals grow no larger. Earth's gravity changed thousands of years ago with one the great catastrophes.
@WricWheeler-rc5cy You really mean, Nowhere in Scripture does benai Elohim refer to angels. That idea is very much assumed. Angels aren't mentioned anywhere in those texts. Y'SHÚA became human through of the lineage of men. You have two genealogies, Matthew and Luke's. Also watch this: * 1 John 5:13 "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the SON OF GOD; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the SON OF GOD." * Luke 3:38 "Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the SON OF GOD." All I can tell you is to go ahead and take the challenge: Name a giant who didn't have a human father and I will prove you wrong !!! Hebrews 1:5 " to which of the angels? TO NONE !!!
@@unleavenedkaraiteplus3412 I meant exactly what I said and CHRIST incarnate was indeed Born of a Woman but not by way of the seed of Men. That sethite view may work for the likes of people like you but you won't be proving me wrong about anything so you can save them long winded comments for someone who doesn't mind reading them. I've heard most views concerning this matter and I'll definitely pass on the sethite argument so find somebody else.
@@EricWheeler-rz5cy What a cop-out, I really was expecting you named a giant who didn't have a human father. That's the only way to prove your point. Remember also, angels are spirits. In other words no, seed, no DNA, no beef; sort of the point you're trying to make. Big difference between believing and knowing. P.D. That's what happens when you go extra biblical, when you place the book of Enoch over the WORD OF ALAHAIM.
@@unleavenedkaraiteplus3412also Hebrew 1:5 contextually has to do with GOD the FATHER identifying GOD the SON as the rightful Air to all things in existence. So no , GOD hasn't ever referred to the benai ha Elohim in this since. But HE does refer to them as sons on multiple occasions in the text and you'd have to do a whole lotta explaining away some things to get around this. Much like the sethite view does to try and make it's points seem remotely plausible.
Take the time and read 1 Enoch and you will learn all about the Watcher class Angeles (200 of them) that left their Heavenly estate and were cursed by Yahweh to watch their children (who became giants) kill one another and when the children died they became disembodied spirits (demons) wandering the earth harassing the God's people. There is so much to learn from 1 Enoch, Jasher and Jubilees, and you will understand our Holy Bible better.
@EricWheeler-rz5cy Just out of curiosity, how big you think these giant were? Do you believe the book of Enoch or Scripture. Enoch 7:11 "And the women conceiving brought forth giants, 12 Whose stature was each three hundred cubits. These devoured all which the labor of men produced; until it became impossible to feed them;" (NOTE: Some translations use "cubits"; other translations use "ells". Either way, 300 "cubits" or 3000 "ells", equal 450 feet. You can calculate the size of Og (a giant) by the size of his bed while considering that he would fit in it (Deuteronomy 3:11). Hopefully you can do the math: • The Egyptian cubit measures= 20.6 inches • The Hebrew cubit mesures = 18 inches There's a huge difference between the 9 cubits and 450 cubits. Even a child can do the following just to get an idea of how ridiculous the difference is. In a straight line lay 9 pennies for the size of Og (who was already a giant), then lay 450 more beside it for a comparison. That alone should give you an idea of the ridiculousness of the agnostic -(a= without gnostic= knowledge) book of Enoch. For more ridiculousness, do the math in cubits for an average size man (say, 6ft); yet YisraÉL killed them all !!!
@@tonitomei6323 Obviously not taking into consideration the evidence and judging by your condition. But you are definitely entitled to have an opinion.
Ezekiel 16:49... "... this was the sin of ur sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, & abundance of idleness was in her & her sisters..." Homosexuality was an issue, but not the only issue that God makes known to us in scripture!
Discards the idea of Fallen Angels: * Hebrews 1:5 "For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?" Includes those mentioned in Genesis 6:2,4 , Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7 What were they? * Genesis 6:1 "And it came to pass, when 'MEN' began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them," P.D. Name a giant who didn't have a "human father" and I will prove you wrong!!! Same with 150' giants!!!
@EricWheeler-rz5cy I had to post outside of our previous conversation because it wouldn't take. I think dude blocked me because I mentioned he'd probably changed his mind from when I wrote in another of his videos the scientific evidence I have. I wrote you 3 times and didn't take. Hopefully you get it here. I was responding to your claim that I must love him. There you have how much he loves me. If the messages appear later where they are supposed to, I will delete this one.
The book of Enoch (cannon or not) explains the Nephilim. They were cross breeds of the 200 fallen watchers who came down to earth and gave women forbidden knowledge and procreated. Would explain why G-D wanted certain tribes destroyed completely. Better explains the pagan worship of 'Gods' who were arrogant , wicked, womanizing and tyranical. These 'Gods' are giants compared humans and animals carved alongside. ( Hindu, Greek, Babylonian , Egyptian ect) There are skeletons all over the world of giants upto 39' tall. It can also explain the megaliths and the dinosaur. They were sinning against animals which could be genetic manipulation since they had all the knowledge and were imortal. ( Book of giants from dead sea scrolls).
@@aosigal8704 it is right there, in there, in the Bible. Adam's generations where all in Adam's sinful image, but some of them believed God. You know who they were. So, guess what?.. There is plenty of evidence of giants on earth.
I love this video...
The lesson and point being that we really can't ascertain what the nephilim were, but we can be certain that they were not strictly human, and neither would be an IA blended human.
"...there is no new thing under the sun" points to the Modern day Nephilim.
Goliath? His brothers? King Og? Even the native Americans had "giant wars" Lovelock Cave.
"Facing the giants"
Numbers 13:33 “And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.”
1 Samuel 17:40 “And he took his staff in his hand, and chose him five smooth stones out of the brook, and put them in a shepherd's bag which he had, even in a scrip; and his sling was in his hand: and he drew near to the Philistine.”
"Are you okay, Annie? You've been hit by, you've been hit by a smooth criminal"... Michael Jackson
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@anewson Sir, if you believe fallen angels fathered giants, name a giant who didn't have a "human father" and I will respectfully prove you wrong.
Hebrews 1:5 discards the whole idea that the "sons of GOD" were angels. Also Genesis 6:1 says they were "men" !!!
@@unleavenedkaraiteplus3412 Blessings brother. I am still looking at the glass darkly, but I look at numbers 13:33 as being in contrast to Matthew 13:33. In the heavenlies I look at the Giants as being the many, like Legion. Mark 5:9 “And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.”
The three measures of meal is Hebrews 11:1. Three men in a tub.
"Many is a word that only leaves you guessing
Guessing 'bout a thing you really ought to know, oh, oh, oh, oh"
.... Led Zeppelin over the hills and far away
Matthew 26:28 “For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.”
Sometimes the Giants we have to overcome are dogmas. "Losing My Religion"...REM
Peace...
@@anewsongpsalm333 You are right, BUT: As the little punny ant that I'm, we still way out-number the Grasshoppers!!!
@@unleavenedkaraiteplus3412 😐
They were big, muscular warriors, and the men commanded to destroy them were cowards. So they exaggerated to get out of going to war. This angered God greatly.
This is an interesting take. However, he is not including all reference materials available. This happens so often in Christian churches. Why is the Bible theconly book that no one wants a background story or point of reference to interpret and understand? If the nephilim were not giants, where did the giants come from???
You are correct. There were giants. Throughout all the Old Testament.
@savedwretch8711 lol yes I know.
I am wondering what a "giant" actually is? How big? How tall? How strong? Tom did mention Goliath. Some say that Goliath was 9 feet tall. Are not archeologists finding proof of giants in the land? There is much to research. 🤔
@cat-bg3rv When the twelve spies came back to report on the land, they said we are like grasshoppers to them. They also brought back a bunch of grapes that was so large it needed 2 to 4 people to carry it. That sounds pretty big to me. 😁
@@empresswb641 A good point of scripture. Thank you for the reminder! If you take it literally then it reads as if there are giants in the land.
Nobody teaches this better than Tom in this video. I wish Heiser was around to hear this video. You cannot understand the flood if you don't understand this.
@jeffreypogue are you implying the flood occured because of the giants? If not, please clarify.
the flood is the result of corruption of the human race, culture and society
Tom, while doing his best to be informed on the subject, couldn’t and does not hold a candle to Michael Heiser in scholarship of ancient information. It’s not even close.
Read the book of Enoch and also the words of Josephus. Look also at the stories of America's indigenous people and the history of Spanish priests who saw these creatures when they came to the America's
Boy how I wish we could 'hook up'... we'd work well together.
The Hebrew word used for renown - as in 'men of renown' - is 'shem'... or 'name'. Consider then 'the name' as in... yup... hashem. Can ya see it?
You are partly right. The sons of God were the Therianthrope species that were the chosen ones before humanity was anointed as the final chosen species. They were not all evil, but many viewed humanity as a servant species, like we do livestock and pets. In addition, some of the previous chosen species were shapeshifters of the line of Lilith, who masqueraded as Nephelim to sow hate for all the giants and therianthropes and get humanity to slaughter the very species that had saved them from many Great Resets of the adversary. Lilithian species draw power from sex and death magic. This is an example of how truth is twisted by the adversary to divide and conquer chosen species and chosen people.
As you probably realize, not all WW2 era Germans were evil, and not all modern day Jews are good. The adversary's agents hide in plain sight under cover of disguises, now more than ever, when pig lipstick is so easy to apply
Thank you for this presentation. I absolutely agree with your conclusions as one who has studied this subject for 30 years.
The languages of the Bible do not descibe giants as a race of 9ft tall people. Were there genetic defects of gigantism? Yes. Goliath and his brother were probably this.
Were there people over 7ft tall? Very possible. I worked for a major Christian book publisher founded by a member of the Dutch Reformed Church. The president is 6ft, 8 in., and his brother is over 7ft tall. The dutch women average 6ft tall, in Holland, Michigan.
As one who studies science as well, people of 9ft tall cannot handle the gravity of Earth as it is today. Their hearts eventually give out. It's a math equation (weight vs. Muscle volume, etc.)
Gravity has to do with the electromagnetism of the earth and resdistibution of charge. That's why the elephant is largest mammel today. Land animals grow no larger. Earth's gravity changed thousands of years ago with one the great catastrophes.
Nowhere in Scripture does benai Elohim refer to the lineage of men.
Excellent point!
@WricWheeler-rc5cy
You really mean, Nowhere in Scripture does benai Elohim refer to angels. That idea is very much assumed. Angels aren't mentioned anywhere in those texts.
Y'SHÚA became human through of the lineage of men. You have two genealogies, Matthew and Luke's. Also watch this:
* 1 John 5:13 "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the SON OF GOD; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the SON OF GOD."
* Luke 3:38 "Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the SON OF GOD."
All I can tell you is to go ahead and take the challenge: Name a giant who didn't have a human father and I will prove you wrong !!!
Hebrews 1:5 " to which of the angels? TO NONE !!!
@@unleavenedkaraiteplus3412 I meant exactly what I said and CHRIST incarnate was indeed Born of a Woman but not by way of the seed of Men. That sethite view may work for the likes of people like you but you won't be proving me wrong about anything so you can save them long winded comments for someone who doesn't mind reading them. I've heard most views concerning this matter and I'll definitely pass on the sethite argument so find somebody else.
@@EricWheeler-rz5cy What a cop-out, I really was expecting you named a giant who didn't have a human father. That's the only way to prove your point. Remember also, angels are spirits. In other words no, seed, no DNA, no beef; sort of the point you're trying to make. Big difference between believing and knowing.
P.D. That's what happens when you go extra biblical, when you place the book of Enoch over the WORD OF ALAHAIM.
@@unleavenedkaraiteplus3412also Hebrew 1:5 contextually has to do with GOD the FATHER identifying GOD the SON as the rightful Air to all things in existence. So no , GOD hasn't ever referred to the benai ha Elohim in this since. But HE does refer to them as sons on multiple occasions in the text and you'd have to do a whole lotta explaining away some things to get around this. Much like the sethite view does to try and make it's points seem remotely plausible.
Take the time and read 1 Enoch and you will learn all about the Watcher class Angeles (200 of them) that left their Heavenly estate and were cursed by Yahweh to watch their children (who became giants) kill one another and when the children died
they became disembodied spirits (demons) wandering the earth harassing the God's people.
There is so much to learn from 1 Enoch, Jasher and Jubilees, and you will understand our Holy Bible better.
what about Enoch and David and goliath
What does Enoch have to do with this?
@@craigime read Enoch
@@sallymay4178 I have. What about it?
@EricWheeler-rz5cy Just out of curiosity, how big you think these giant were? Do you believe the book of Enoch or Scripture.
Enoch 7:11 "And the women conceiving brought forth giants, 12 Whose stature was each three hundred cubits. These devoured all which the labor of men produced; until it became impossible to feed them;"
(NOTE: Some translations use "cubits"; other translations use "ells". Either way, 300 "cubits" or 3000 "ells", equal 450 feet.
You can calculate the size of Og (a giant) by the size of his bed while considering that he would fit in it (Deuteronomy 3:11). Hopefully you can do the math:
• The Egyptian cubit measures= 20.6 inches
• The Hebrew cubit mesures = 18 inches
There's a huge difference between the 9 cubits and 450 cubits.
Even a child can do the following just to get an idea of how ridiculous the difference is.
In a straight line lay 9 pennies for the size of Og (who was already a giant), then lay 450 more beside it for a comparison.
That alone should give you an idea of the ridiculousness of the agnostic -(a= without gnostic= knowledge) book of Enoch.
For more ridiculousness, do the math in cubits for an average size man (say, 6ft); yet YisraÉL killed them all !!!
The only explanation for the pyramids is the 450 cubit giant
@@tonitomei6323 Obviously not taking into consideration the evidence and judging by your condition. But you are definitely entitled to have an opinion.
The largest creatures we know of are dinosaurs and not sure they even fit those measurements
Enoch isn't scripture
Ezekiel 16:49... "... this was the sin of ur sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, & abundance of idleness was in her & her sisters..."
Homosexuality was an issue, but not the only issue that God makes known to us in scripture!
LOL. There went the neighborhood
Abraham eat with angle before Sodom and Gamora
Discards the idea of Fallen Angels:
* Hebrews 1:5 "For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?"
Includes those mentioned in Genesis 6:2,4 , Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7
What were they?
* Genesis 6:1 "And it came to pass, when 'MEN' began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,"
P.D. Name a giant who didn't have a "human father" and I will prove you wrong!!! Same with 150' giants!!!
Sorry, did not change my mind.
@EricWheeler-rz5cy
I had to post outside of our previous conversation because it wouldn't take. I think dude blocked me because I mentioned he'd probably changed his mind from when I wrote in another of his videos the scientific evidence I have. I wrote you 3 times and didn't take. Hopefully you get it here.
I was responding to your claim that I must love him. There you have how much he loves me. If the messages appear later where they are supposed to, I will delete this one.
The book of Enoch (cannon or not) explains the Nephilim. They were cross breeds of the 200 fallen watchers who came down to earth and gave women forbidden knowledge and procreated. Would explain why G-D wanted certain tribes destroyed completely. Better explains the pagan worship of 'Gods' who were arrogant , wicked, womanizing and tyranical. These 'Gods' are giants compared humans and animals carved alongside. ( Hindu, Greek, Babylonian , Egyptian ect) There are skeletons all over the world of giants upto 39' tall. It can also explain the megaliths and the dinosaur. They were sinning against animals which could be genetic manipulation since they had all the knowledge and were imortal. ( Book of giants from dead sea scrolls).
You most surely teach a lie
If so, then please you tell the truth.
@@aosigal8704 it is right there, in there, in the Bible. Adam's generations where all in Adam's sinful image, but some of them believed God. You know who they were. So, guess what?.. There is plenty of evidence of giants on earth.