The correct way to make big fretboard stretches (even if you have small hands)

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  • @morphine0000
    @morphine0000 5 років тому +262

    "Master, how do I stretch?"
    "Young grasshopper, the secret to stretching is to not stretch."

    • @BarrySahagian
      @BarrySahagian 4 роки тому +3

      I believe that stretching opens up new opportunity for executing lines and new ideas. It seems to me that Scott is offer an alternative to stretching which is all good as well.

  • @SavsASMR111
    @SavsASMR111 3 роки тому +117

    It took me two minutes. TWO MINUTES to realize why I couldn’t play how I wanted to. Now I can! And the vid isn’t even over yet!

  • @nancyhopp4173
    @nancyhopp4173 5 років тому +75

    This made me chuckle. I was attending music camp at Wooten Woods and complained to theory and bass ninja Anthony Wellington that it was too hard for me to stretch my fingers across 4 frets. He had me hold up my hand and then he put his palm against mine. My fingers were a full joint longer than his. "Uh, never mind," I said. Lol

  • @SamBellGuitar
    @SamBellGuitar 5 років тому +299

    'Do not adjust audio' - Adjusts audio...

    • @leoc507
      @leoc507 5 років тому +11

      So I woke up the neighborhood. 😐

    • @CarlosGonzalez-mp9re
      @CarlosGonzalez-mp9re 5 років тому +19

      The video:
      Me: *turns the volume up*
      Video: DO NOT ADJUST THE AUDIO
      ME: *HURRIES TO TURN IT DOWN AGAIN*

    • @madmanmoon4038
      @madmanmoon4038 5 років тому +5

      *Do not adjust volume*
      .....oops, too late.....
      Ahh! Sound!!

    • @theredstormer8078
      @theredstormer8078 2 роки тому

      Same

  • @jefferydavis7329
    @jefferydavis7329 5 років тому +120

    Me: Are you telling me I'll be able to stretch to play big fretboard reaches on the bass?
    Scott: I'm telling you that when you're ready, you won't have to.

    • @StratMatt777
      @StratMatt777 3 роки тому +4

      It is not often that I actually yell out "HA!" when I read a comment!
      (Of course, The Matrix is my favorite movie)

  • @dhathaway
    @dhathaway Рік тому +20

    Thank you for this! Slight shifts are a necessity for me, as I not only have small hands, but my pinky finger is oddly short. All the advice I get from other players to just stretch, is not only difficult but it's hurting my wrist. Subtle shifts are the way...

    • @devinebass
      @devinebass  Рік тому

      🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

    • @JohnDoe-zx1ck
      @JohnDoe-zx1ck Рік тому +4

      You and me both buddy. I have an old wrist injury that makes me feel like my forearm and wrist are about to explode when I force a stretch. This really helps. Stay after it.

    • @indykatley10317
      @indykatley10317 Місяць тому

      I have the same problem, my pinky is half the length of my ring finger!

  • @vikingga
    @vikingga 3 роки тому +8

    I soooo needed this...!
    Just got my first bass yesterday.
    It's nothing special, a cheapy off of Amazon.
    My whole inspiration for picking up the bass (lefty) is to work the atrophy outta my right hand from a nerve damage from when I was a teen.
    Right hand works, just slower and with far less dexterity.
    Was looking at different fingering exercises, and this gave me instant relief on stressing out about how I couldn't cover a 4 fret spread.
    Been watching for a while, so many cheers to you and your channel for throwing out tips and pointers.

    • @spookytaco666
      @spookytaco666 3 роки тому +1

      Hey, once you make progress, you can find a fancier bass at a pawn shop! I got mine at one for $200.

  • @viniciusvieiraferreira4659
    @viniciusvieiraferreira4659 5 років тому +36

    You should call Pipoquinha in the program!

  • @dirkjanklijn9949
    @dirkjanklijn9949 5 років тому +8

    Exactly what my bass teacher tell's me to do, but you really make it look easy, thnx.

  • @mikl390171
    @mikl390171 5 років тому +26

    So for small hands and an acoustic bass, I have noticed that my fingers or pad of my palms are hitting other strings, making shifts more awkward, any recommendations?

  • @emancia
    @emancia 5 років тому +13

    Thank you for making this video. I realized this a few years ago, sadly after some injuries: I'm not Marcus Miller or any of those guys that I love. The things I *see* them doing doesn't mean I gotta do it like they do. Same with how you, Scott, approach certain things. I can't do them if I don't want to be in pain.
    We are all unique, our physique is unique to each of us. If we learn to sound good while respecting the uniqueness of our own bodies, then our sound will also be unique to us. Of course you may not like your sound compared to that of your idols, but its *yours*. Embrace it, work with it, work on it.

    • @lYl93
      @lYl93 Рік тому

      So some people play with one fret per finger?

  • @SapphicKitty
    @SapphicKitty 11 місяців тому

    Thank you for putting this video out there. I'm all self-taught when it comes to playing bass and I always thought I was playing wrong by shifting my fingers and sliding up/down the fretboard. This gives me a new practice to further develop my fretting fingers. Only other issue I have and see and hear a lot from other players is having their fingers strain when it comes to picking.

  • @Simbosan
    @Simbosan 5 років тому +4

    And here i was practicing the maj7th starting on F to get used to the stretch. My grief stricken left hand thanks you. Even Trumps tiny hands could cope!

  • @wayiqra4399
    @wayiqra4399 2 роки тому

    These little things help so much.

  • @lordMaroza
    @lordMaroza 5 років тому +5

    I'm still not playing bass, but I've learned so much stuff from you that I can actually use while playing the guitar...

    • @bennyubub1582
      @bennyubub1582 5 років тому

      Same. I originally followed this channel for guitar but picked up the bass recently

    • @kearab4238
      @kearab4238 5 років тому

      I had my bass for 6 months and only picked it up once, I'm scared I'm gonna suck and not play as good as I think I can.

    • @lordMaroza
      @lordMaroza 5 років тому +1

      @@kearab4238 You shouldn't think like that, for anything in life. You can't know unless you try, and the worst feeling in life is when you get to your 30s, 40s, 70s, and you ask yourself "What if I tried doing this and that?" - regret.... I've played for 15 years, and I still suck at stuff I haven't really tried on the guitar. So just start and keep practicing!

  • @auramora
    @auramora 3 роки тому +3

    Most 14 year olds are a foot taller than me. My index finger is 6.5 cm (2.5in) long but I kept practicing and most of my struggle came from the position of the bass (not short scale). Now I can play four frets without flying fingers :) if I could, you can too

  • @warburgaby
    @warburgaby 2 місяці тому

    It is also "The Shift" described in the Hal Leonard Bass Method, applied on scales :))) great "economy" on movements and comfort while playing thanks Scott

  • @p38077
    @p38077 Рік тому

    thanks Scott you saved my life (figuratively) & my wrist (literally)

  • @seggs9080
    @seggs9080 4 роки тому +38

    Bruh my former teacher almost broke my fingers and now you’re telling me it wasn’t even necessary??

    • @buckycore
      @buckycore 3 роки тому +2

      They probably came from the world of guitar playing before picking up the bass. There's this mistake that technique translates from one to the other. Most do not

    • @mindtrollthegreat774
      @mindtrollthegreat774 3 роки тому

      its actually good to full stretch for fast and complicated pattern on a normal speed its not nessesairy to strech that much but when it getting faster with hamer in and out full stretch will help you a lot and also you raising up the force of youre pinky its more an exercise then a madantpry technic

  • @SirBoopBoop
    @SirBoopBoop 5 років тому +13

    Anybody recognize the funky Giant Steps soloing in the intro? Nice soloing as usual Scott!

  • @vincenttume5812
    @vincenttume5812 5 років тому +6

    Scott, it's amazing how well this shifting works in practice. Thanks for sharing.

  • @ignasty3591
    @ignasty3591 5 років тому +5

    I’ve heard there’s been an increase oin sales of short scale basses with smaller frets. Maybe kids and women and runts like myself have gotten into bass. I don’t know. I play guitar but thwomp a bass every now and then. I have smaller hands and do like the idea of smaller frets. Just for comfort. But it is awesome seeing this giant instrument being played by a small dude or lady and just owning the hell out of it.

    • @Tracer9GTRider8
      @Tracer9GTRider8 5 років тому +1

      I have a 75 Fender Mustang and love the short scale. My hands aren't small, but as I've aged I've lost some dexterity & my reflexes are a bit slower so I struggle with a 34" scale.

  • @letthereberocknroll3870
    @letthereberocknroll3870 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for this video! It really helps! I'm actually learning electric guitar and I couldn't play a scale because I couldn't make my fingers stretch far enough. I was trying to play 2nd fret, 3rd fret, 5th fret, 7th fret on the fifth string and couldn't stretch my fingers that far. I was getting really upset and thought about giving up til I saw this. THANK YOU

  • @dfabulous
    @dfabulous 3 роки тому +1

    I used to play violin, and I just got a bass guitar today. So glad that shifting is the way to go because I thought it was me cheating the bass 😤😂

  • @epicmage82
    @epicmage82 Рік тому

    This is incredibly helpful. Thank you. I might have to give bass another go.

    • @devinebass
      @devinebass  Рік тому

      Do it!! Give it another chance!

  • @BalezinD
    @BalezinD 4 роки тому

    Love the look of that bass... And sound of course

  • @miguelvelez6705
    @miguelvelez6705 2 роки тому

    LIFE SAVER

  • @alberthouldcroft4200
    @alberthouldcroft4200 Рік тому

    Thanks for this dude! Helped me out loads!

  • @kiri101
    @kiri101 5 років тому +2

    I have pretty long fingers and prefer to go finger-per-fret even on the first frets, but I never realised how deficient I was at shifting my hand up with my fretted first finger to continue a line - I think some practice will really help extend my range!

  • @iantruax17
    @iantruax17 5 років тому +1

    This is the video from you I’ve been waiting for.

  • @joshstarkey8883
    @joshstarkey8883 5 років тому +5

    If you're shifting well but there's still an awkward left hand jump, here's some other things you can try:
    -play in a different position
    -use a 5 string, or alternate tuning
    -tap one of the notes with your right hand
    -play a different note that sounds similar

  • @guillaumelefebvre683
    @guillaumelefebvre683 5 років тому +3

    It's funny, I took classes with Alain Caron for the two last years and his method is all about stretching and knowing every arpegio in every position possible on the fingerboard. It works really well with chromatic line but for octave jump I also like to use my major and my pinky to cover 3 frets, it depends of what you play !

  • @rekindled3624
    @rekindled3624 5 років тому +22

    This video isn't about how to make big stretches, it's about avoiding them. What if you can't though? Like, how would you play that weird harmonic on the 2nd bar of Portrait of Tracy, for instance? Of course anyone can shift their hands while playing scales

    • @indieWellie
      @indieWellie 5 років тому +8

      you can get a pinch harmonic by fretting a B on the A string, and holding you thumb about six inches from the bridge, conveniently around the pickup, and where you would typically have you plucking hand.

    • @josephkaplan8287
      @josephkaplan8287 5 років тому +2

      I was just thinking the same thing! That not can be well, A STRETCH but the main thing I do to personally help is kind of use your pointer as a pivot point, use your wrist to turn onto the 6th fret harmonic rather than stretch, and raise the neck to help with the stretch.

    • @rekindled3624
      @rekindled3624 5 років тому +1

      @@indieWellie that is very interesting, I had no idea that was possible. Thanks for the tip!

  • @Sjrm126
    @Sjrm126 5 років тому +4

    Also, you can pivot your thumb and by doing that you can get massive stretches without switching positions

    • @dcj991
      @dcj991 5 років тому

      Realizing that helped me venture into the higher sections of the bass more comfortably

  • @coastalphriends4913
    @coastalphriends4913 2 роки тому

    Never knew!! Thank you for the tip!

  • @drew-shourd
    @drew-shourd 11 місяців тому

    Cheers mate, big thanx❤

  • @Martinson74
    @Martinson74 5 років тому +1

    Man...Even if you play on an avocado....you'll make it sound fantastic.... Thanks for the peace of advice...

  • @thorstenbonning9860
    @thorstenbonning9860 2 роки тому

    Very helpful! Thanks!

  • @kiwikeith7633
    @kiwikeith7633 5 років тому +3

    Looks great for scales - BUT chords are another deal altogether

  • @thumbthump
    @thumbthump 5 років тому +36

    Can you keep saying "strugglin'"?

  • @tomknight1821
    @tomknight1821 4 роки тому

    Crazy ... so logical 👍

  •  5 років тому

    Brilliant tip !

  • @ronabraham
    @ronabraham 3 роки тому

    ive watched and admired guitarists over the decades who do this shifting, but I could never understand the technique. I just started playing bass last month, and now I know.

  • @redmed10
    @redmed10 5 років тому

    Nice bit of myth busting. Too many experts get stuck in teaching one way of doing something and presenting it as the ideal or best way .

  • @theRLWest
    @theRLWest 5 років тому +1

    4:23 and 4:50 gave me a big smile, not only because I find it funny, but also because it's true.

  • @alexander_noren
    @alexander_noren 5 років тому

    hi Scott! :) i love your videos! you are so positive! thank you for everything you do!

  • @fr-ep4fv
    @fr-ep4fv 5 років тому +1

    Nice confidence builder for adult students showing the kid--lol

  • @zerohexer5900
    @zerohexer5900 4 роки тому

    Ty

  • @joaoarielbf
    @joaoarielbf 5 років тому +1

    Pipoquinha is an adult now and hes only gotten better

  • @richardjohnson6125
    @richardjohnson6125 3 роки тому

    Your amazing ❤️I am trying now

  • @pressm4n
    @pressm4n 5 років тому +1

    Beautiful bass, what kind is that?

  • @Forbelicious
    @Forbelicious 2 роки тому

    Were you jamming to giant steps at the start there? Nice!

  • @royglennie
    @royglennie 5 років тому +4

    Scott, I understand you wear a glove for a condition you have (by the way fantastic that you found a solution that lets you continue playing) but I wondered what kind of glove they are and where you get them from? I'm thinking they might prolong string life by protecting the strings from skin oils and sweat etc - do you think this would work? In other words do you find strings last longer wearing the glove? Thanks!

    • @kevinlynch2248
      @kevinlynch2248 5 років тому

      royglennie My guess is that you’d have to wear one on each hand.

  • @valy993
    @valy993 4 роки тому +3

    I love this bass. Does someone know what is it?

    • @chococat96
      @chococat96 4 роки тому +1

      Do you mean the brand or what type of bass it is?

    • @valy993
      @valy993 4 роки тому

      @@chococat96 The brand

  • @flamingosextet8649
    @flamingosextet8649 3 роки тому

    My index finger goes along just fine, it’s my puny pinky that gets me. I’d rather shift around using my pinky at this point.

  • @ebrahimalfardan8823
    @ebrahimalfardan8823 5 років тому

    I find it easier to place 1 finger at a time and pivot around the end joint on the active finger. This way I move my entire hand while being completely legato without any tension in my hand or wrist.

  • @louie9373
    @louie9373 5 років тому +2

    I didn't think the technique was going to be just shifting positions as opposed to stretching. I thought it was going to be patterns to use while stretching 😄

  • @BadChizzle
    @BadChizzle 5 років тому +1

    Hello, Scott!
    May I please watch you do a series with John Paul Jones? I Love his work... and his feel and approach plus multi instrumentalist angle on things adds immense value to his nuggets when expressing his personal Bass awesomeness. I think he loves to talk Bass... and I’ve watched videos of him doing just that... but you have a way of getting more out of a guest, by asking the best questions... and focusing on the area with the greatest cluster of Instructional Gems.
    If... you have already worked with him in this capacity... please direct me to where that video might be.
    Thank you for your time.
    Your flying Buddy,
    Charles Edward DeArmon

  • @freakyshiki7550
    @freakyshiki7550 2 роки тому

    I’m an idiot. Thank you, this is magical.

  • @adrianor.passarelli8127
    @adrianor.passarelli8127 5 років тому

    Pipoquinha on Scott's channel! That's awesome!

  • @gerryjamesedwards1227
    @gerryjamesedwards1227 5 років тому

    Juantu! Juantu!

  • @abbiejayne2882
    @abbiejayne2882 3 роки тому

    Any tips for someone that can’t use their pinky and has small hands? I’m struggling big time as I have double jointed pinkies it doesn’t mix welll

  • @camillemaquillage
    @camillemaquillage 5 років тому

    I need to watch this on my break time
    I neeed to know the trixxxx

  • @richardlionhardt4134
    @richardlionhardt4134 5 років тому +2

    Oddly enough, I examined my technique and discovered I was already doing what you suggested unconsciously. Silly me. I don't have Jaco hands.

  • @jeremyjohnson8072
    @jeremyjohnson8072 5 років тому

    Congrats on your teaching career and successful channel bro!!! But your “Tickling a Hamster” technique is so counterintuitive to good tone! Don’t get me wrong, I have found myself in the same dreadful trap of lowering action and over-playing in the wood shed, then quickly realize at the next gig, good BASS TONE requires a healthy amount of right hand muscle to get those heavy string to properly oscillate and move some air!

  • @kudosbudo
    @kudosbudo 4 роки тому +3

    My issue starts to show when I have to go low on the fretboard. Hell reach isn't even my issue, i have tiny finger but i'm used to that now. What is my issue is the pain I end up in after reaching for low notes. I've followed several guides and there just isnt' a position for me to play in that allows me to have no pain in my fret hand. Song songs just hurt to play.

  • @hugeshows
    @hugeshows 5 років тому +1

    I respectfully disagree with some of this. While it's important to learn to shift, I'm not sure why you're approaching the G major scale as though the first three notes must be played on the same string. When I play a G major in the lower position, I start with my 2nd finger on the tonic, play the 2nd note with my pinky, then I play the 3rd, 4th, 5th, on the A string, and finish the scale on the D string. I need not stretch nor shift. That approach puts the entire scale under your hand in any given fingerboard position. I only start with my first finger on the tonic if I'm going to be playing a minor scale using that minor 3rd, and again the entire minor scale is under my hand without shifting. Now I suppose if you start the pattern on anything other than the E or A string (for a 4-string), this approach can't work all the time, but I use these positions as my default for perhaps 20 years now and it works quite well for me. I have large hands and can actually play the scale the way you show without shifting, but why do all that work if you don't have to? There's less economy of motion.

  • @Gaafar93
    @Gaafar93 5 років тому +1

    Hey Scott huge fan, could you do a video breaking down Pino Palladino's bass riff on gary numan's music for chameleons in one of your videos.

  • @jhw232
    @jhw232 3 роки тому

    That kid for sure has bigger hands than me. My 11 year old brother has bigger hands than me 😅 But helpful lesson, I’m giving it a go

  • @malamute8257
    @malamute8257 Рік тому

    You can't do hammer ons and pull offs from the first to fourth fret then.. also, playing with constant shifting that isn't over specific frets makes it so you have to look at the fretboard while you're playing though.

  • @jimmysantino7975
    @jimmysantino7975 3 роки тому

    what is this bass hes playing? looks gorgeous

    • @WheatMeat
      @WheatMeat Рік тому

      Ik this is a year late but it's an Fbass

  • @elevatorman5468
    @elevatorman5468 Рік тому

    I play with roundwound strings so another challenge to overcome is string noise when I am sliding.

  • @Tracer9GTRider8
    @Tracer9GTRider8 5 років тому +1

    Ninja shift!

  • @iamaryasharma
    @iamaryasharma 2 роки тому

    Holy shit 😳 i got it

  • @frostgfx
    @frostgfx 3 роки тому

    It seems like in every bass lesson video I watch, the player/instructor is able to cover 4 frets easily on the neck. I am almost 60, with small hands and I have trouble covering 3 frets. I have pretty much settled on a short-scale bass like the Ibanez GSR20 Mikro, as I want a PJ pickup style. Am I deluding myself about being able to play? I am willing to put the effort in; I just don't want to spend my limited dollars, only to find out it was all for naught. Please, any suggestions/comments greatly appreciated. I am located in Easthampton, MA. Perhaps someone local to me could meet 6 or more feet apart for help in buying my first bass.

  • @adammadtin8451
    @adammadtin8451 2 роки тому

    What about hammer ons and pull offs?

  • @splashmysalsa9985
    @splashmysalsa9985 2 роки тому

    How long should I practice this exercise a day?

  • @KiraPlaysGuitar
    @KiraPlaysGuitar 5 років тому +2

    Was that jam at the start Giant Steps or did it just turn out that way? Fuckin' killer in any case.

  • @stephbims5172
    @stephbims5172 5 років тому +1

    Hey guys i m à beginner at bass just wondering what the glove is for?

    • @fernandoborges5525
      @fernandoborges5525 5 років тому +2

      He has a medical condition
      So he needs the gloves so his hands don't go all jittery

  • @billehall
    @billehall 5 років тому

    What is the crazy glove your sporting Scott

    • @KevinOMalleyisonlysmallreally
      @KevinOMalleyisonlysmallreally 5 років тому +3

      Short answer, Scott has a neurological issue where the signals his brain sends to his hands can get muddled, the slight pressure from the gloves helps the signals to get through properly so he can still play. He did a video on it if you search the channel

  • @jfs5873
    @jfs5873 Рік тому

    Most of the people with small hands I see play bass seem to play with a bent wrist, how necessary is this? I know i personally can't even reach from the 1st to 3rd fret without bending my wrist. Should I just buy a shortscale

  • @2pinkies
    @2pinkies 5 років тому +1

    Small hands here, thank you

  • @elliusagi
    @elliusagi 3 роки тому

    Your hand is like a praying mantis running around after two pans of extra strong coffee 😳😍

  • @sortsome
    @sortsome 5 років тому +1

    The "little dude" is Michael Pipoquinha, @michaelpipoquinha. Call him! :)

  • @SavsASMR111
    @SavsASMR111 3 роки тому

    It’s really difficult for me to move my pointer finger with the rest of my fingers. And when I play, it’s kind of pointing down? And it feels nearly impossible to get it to get on the string the right way

  • @skyweaver3199
    @skyweaver3199 4 роки тому

    i have my bass into my DAW, from a DI , and Miced. So when i first heard you, I was like............HM

  • @graemerobertson5160
    @graemerobertson5160 5 років тому

    Can you demo the intro to Rhythm stick with this technique?

  • @nunofernandes4501
    @nunofernandes4501 5 років тому +2

    It's as if the index finger wants to remain where it is until it realizes it's hindering all the others that want to leave to a new, more efficient position.

    • @jackzango427
      @jackzango427 5 років тому

      You have to think of the index finger as nothing more than a pivot using the other three fingers to navigate the scales. Then by moving the index finger two different positions you can play literally anything.

  • @GamePlayMetal
    @GamePlayMetal 5 років тому +1

    "Ninja shifting technique"

  • @joebanana8768
    @joebanana8768 5 років тому

    I mean, cool t-shirt

  • @surge-tech9381
    @surge-tech9381 2 роки тому

    Victor Wilton has tiny hands. Let that sink in

  • @timian.
    @timian. 5 років тому +1

    What about stretchy chords?

  • @TheBoogerJames
    @TheBoogerJames 4 роки тому

    Here's Scott playin a full major scale. I'm just trying to use my first finger and pinky to start a minor scale. :(

  • @charlesfick729
    @charlesfick729 Рік тому

    What’s with the glove?

  • @ever_grey4468
    @ever_grey4468 2 місяці тому

    My hand just naturally does these shifts, even if i exercise stretches.

  • @treecreeperguitars772
    @treecreeperguitars772 5 років тому

    I know it's probably been asked a thousand times but, What is with the glove on the left hand?

    • @KevinOMalleyisonlysmallreally
      @KevinOMalleyisonlysmallreally 5 років тому +1

      Short answer, Scott has a neurological issue where the signals his brain sends to his hands can get muddled, the slight pressure from the gloves helps the signals to get through properly so he can still play bass. He did a video on it that's really good.

    • @treecreeperguitars772
      @treecreeperguitars772 5 років тому

      @@KevinOMalleyisonlysmallreally Hi Kevin, Thanks for your reply. Great to see there was a solution to his issue ;-)

  • @mgd9151
    @mgd9151 4 роки тому

    My fingers are really long and it feels weird. Can a bass be too small?

  • @CarlosGonzalez-mp9re
    @CarlosGonzalez-mp9re 5 років тому +2

    Basically, to do a good stretch, don't stretch 😂
    Sounds like a joke, but it's actually useful 🤔

  • @oheythere_9
    @oheythere_9 Рік тому +1

    My bass teacher was telling me that you have to keep one finger per fret but I don’t think he realises that I am 13 and it is legitimately painful to do that… I’m not entirely sure how to tell him I can’t do it

  • @dli199214
    @dli199214 4 роки тому

    after seem the video, i have no need to order the shortscale model i wanted! now the active bass amp is the problem.