988 The Heart Of The Bedini SSG
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Thanks for the explanation Rob, I've always been interested in Bedini's design....
I found it fascinating that he was able to run his entire shop from a battery bank that was being charged using only that collapsing field.....and the fact that he freely gave away the information. Too bad it's not being put to better use.....seems using one battery to charge three, four or more batteries would be something worth building on a commercial scale.
for sure mate
yea what you also don't know is that he couldn't use the Energy he generated to power his Workshop .... because , by his own words , you couldn't use the energy you produced to run the SSG...
But don't worry , 90% of people who built his device and played with it ... NEVER listened to Bedini
@@casstete1 Bedini stated that ihe power couldn't be used DIRECTLY to power his shop.....but there is a video where he shows the device and the battery bank it charged TO POWER HIS SHOP.
But you are otherwise correct, power directly from one SSG can't be used to power another SSG, there has to be a battery in the system....
I have been working and researching Bedini stuff for well over a decade now, John bedini did really have very high COP gains in his systems, he replicated many others inventions that included the EV Gray motor, The sweet device, the Hendershoot device ect. Some thing really went bad for sure and both John and his brother died in 2016, the commercial versions of his battery chargers were stopped from production, also his close associates Peter Lindemann abruptly announced retirment from all sorts of public angaments and research in Free Energy area.
@@navneetpandit7299they must have gotten visits from the
' men in black '
From my understanding John and his brother did not have problems from energy devices but rather when trying to revive research in the work of Raymond Rife.
Robert Murray Smith, freaking electrical genius. Not joking.
Back in the 50s we called it a TV flyback coil circuit to generate the high voltage required to horizontally scan the crt
yep - ignition coils are the same idea
THX Robert... So glad u know about Bedini
Thanks Robert. You got straight to the heart of the device, around which much mystique has arisen, along with many different iterations...
cheers mate
Some Mosfets can put out upwards of 160°C on their heatsinks. Thermal based sulfur
You really have come a long way Peace
yes this a good base, well simplified, hope it catches them. Thank you again, always a joy to follow my notification and get hit with another think you from you.
lol - I try to read everything mate - sometimes though - it's just not possible and I am sorry when can't - cheers
another think from you it was supposed to read, good grief that auto correct demon is treacherous
The title of this video sounds like the title of a World War II movie!! 😋 Very interesting - and I like how you leave it to us to ponder the implications/applications. 😊 That's a nice change from the channels that actually skip the explanation of HOW something works (the most important bit) and move straight away to a specific application for it if you follow their instructions verbatim and don't do any thinking for yourself.
lol -the title is because of the romantic in me lol - but yes it is super important to think it through for sure
The Tesla’s switch is definitely part of the system but you have to remember it’s a two-sided system; an “open system”. Absorption and dissipative. A dipolarity (dipole for short) exists in a battery or capacitor ( Tesla called them condensers). THAT is what converts the negative (as yet undetectable by meters) into the detectable positive energy flow. The absorption side will get very cold, dump it’s energy into the condenser, and then power the load. The switching is the trick. You must use the collector in between and also have a load on the whole circuit to maintain your dipole WITHOUT CONVENTIONAL GROUNDING!
U didn't talk about the role the "base collector diode" plays in the SSG. So as for the ckt yes, it's very simple and as you know the machine is much more complex and is nothing like the JT.
That would be like saying an airplane is just like a space shuttle, just use a different fuel... :-)
RMS, Tesla liked pancake coils and they had no ferrite core. I think it would still work but not limited by frequencies like the ferrite cores.
for sure mate
Bedini lives on
seems like a kind of 2 coil boost converter that also lights up the led by back emf.
Build the MEG by Tom Bearden and a Group of engineers ... his science was solid (RIP) and he had knowledge that Dates from the 1800 until 2015 all in his head on demand .
Mrs Chungs negative resistor the Military doesn't want to be shared.
It's just Carbon compressed !!
AND if you want to de-sulfate PLEASE ... just use a a "Capacitance charger" ...
Plug to Capacitors to Bridge rectifier and make sure battery has water , desulfate it in minutes
Good vid!
cheers mate
good video.. I've built a lot of Energizers and making my own Oscillators.. Take a look at the comparator it really enhances the charging of what the SG can do..
Book: The final secret to free energy….Thomas Bearden has the answers you’re all looking for. Pure copper in the dissipating/work/motor side; doped copper for more absorption on the negative energy absorption side (impedance and resistance act oppositely on this side--the secret).
Nice mate. My stuart bibby sb302 turned up this morning. Exciting times ahead
Nice one you are going to need that that's for sure lol
Very cool, this switching could be used anywhere you have something being vibrated by the wind. Another harvesting project that could charge capacitors.
yes it could. mate and I am thinking about the ultra low voltage circuit I mentioned that uses a jfet
@@ThinkingandTinkering very cool, this I have to see. Hope there will be a video!
Awesome video Robert good explanation on the circuit hope to see you do more with it I always thought you would be the one that can shed some light on bedinis work since your a chemist and you really know how batteries work down to a chemical level bedini knew alot about batteries as well I think you look more into it bedini has said that the sg machine is not the free energy device the battery is if charged correctly thanks again cheers :)
I do plan on looking further into this mate
A Capacitance charge ..-- Mains - Caps - Bridge-rectifier will do a better Job than SSG . The SSG is meant to use the torque also and the timing of the electromagnet is crucial to bypass Lenz forces and then the faster it goes the more energy it dumps out ....
thats the key about all the magnetic overunity devices the faster they go the less they use from the source and more they give
You're on your way to understanding Solid State Generations. Keep exploring. A+ Rob.
cheers mate
Also if been watching alot of experimenters on youtube and iv been fascinated with generator coils and motor/generators like bedinis design people are using his circuit to drive the rotor use HV spikes to charge a second battery and also they has a separate coil as generator coil to power a load or charge another battery but the special thing about it is the geometry of the core has been arranged in such a way where lenz law doesn't drag down the motor it speeds up while under load and draws less amps you dont have to drive it with a bedini circuit but this is what's amazing to me mainly the source of this type of generator is the Kromrey generator witch is very very cool put out what's called cold electricity I I really think you should look into these types of generators there's is one design that's I very well put together made by TinMan at the OzSolarPower channel go look at at a video he made called the L.A.G lenz Assisted generators that is a very good design that uses bedini coils and sg circuit with generator coils that speed up under load and draws less amps it all has to do with the way the generator coils and motor coils are wound to the magnetic fields dont buck against each other creating lenz drag instead it help repel the magnets on the rotor because the magnetic poles are no longer working against each other I recommend trying this out set up a simple bedini motor with magnets nsns get an iron or steel core that's three times longer than the coil put the iron rod in the coil and instead of facing the coil and core to the magnets like normal face the bifiler coil on its side now get a single wire generator coil and slip it over one of the ends of the core and use it as generator coil power a load and depending on with way the generator coil is wound you will have to try it on the left side of the core or the right and you will see once you load the generator coil while the whole bedini coil core and generator coil are facing side ways and the rotor magnets are hitting the center of the bedini coils windings the rotor will speed up under load and the amp draw will go down on the sg circuit input hope you try it thanks again and cheers mate :)
nice info mate - thanks for taking the time to post all of that
I improved the SSG circuit. Watch the *Bedini SHK Charger V1.0F* video.
I have some interesting ideal for some projects that I think many of your viewers may enjoy as well. One of them is to make an induction heater. I've found they are actually pretty simple and straight forward and these things can be used for a lot of different applications.
Another project is to make a pan/tilt/rotate mount where you can mount a camera and use stepper motors to control it. There are so many options for the camera anything from using a web cam, a camera out of an old phone or a camera from an old laptop or tablet all the way up to a DSLR with a huge telephoto lense. . You could find stepper motors from old printers among many other devices.
I'm planning on building an induction heater and have been reading up on them the last couple weeks. If you like any of these ideas, I'd be happy to chat or email you about regarding either project.
nice ideas mate - go for it
There is an engineer from Toyota in Japan who built small fans which produce 400% more energy than input.
The design:
Two or four bobbin style coils just outside the fans rotation 180 or 90 degrees apart, on two blades of the fan neodymium magnets 180 degrees apart. A switching circuit similar to bedinni.
Coils drive the rotation for one cycle then harvest electricity from four or five rotations, repeat.
The engineer said Toyota was planning to put these in vehicles for the heat and air conditioning systems.
It’s difficult to find this video now with so much clickbait videos in the magnet-motor space.
Besides this can maybe you can replicate the Kapenad device, a.k.a. The Don Smith device, also M.I.T. videos on tuned coils that produce electricity.
I used to think in simplistic concepts of a water wheel driving contact breaker points to be the oscillator until I learned about a 555 integrated circuit to be the switching system instead of the wheel and magnets I think of it as the Bedini wheel without the wheel cheers
Charge a batt with the pulse and you have more at the discharge, this is the basic Bedini method. The 2 coils create a phase conjugate.
all i know the pulse is on and off from osciliscope. making it low power consumption.
@@CarinoGamingStudio You want DEL PHI , zero current mass for current 0 in amp
Morning Rob, from Australia. Time for me to rebuild a treadmill.
morning to you too mate - go for it lol
great stuff ... thats also why one has no overunity and just drains the battery vs the other .
Only problem about Bedinis SSG is that you can't use the Load Battery to run the SSG again ....
and the main thing you forgot Rob is that the Lenz law has to be bypassed which is done by having permanent magnets on one side facing north and the electric is ONLY switched on at the moment the permanent passes .
So as clever as you are .... don't bother with things you don't understand
Great stufff .... but the real question is .
What happens when you actually spin the wheel with permanent north facing magnets .. and the electric magnet opposing it is timed to switch on the moment it passes ?
So that what you will observe is a drop in the source input and rise in output at the same time .
Thanks Rob ... I am happy I can clear things up for you
What people really confused about i think is the need for triggering the collapsing back emf as they call it but you don't really need that fast switching triggering mechanism to get that energy as long as you have a high voltage electrostatic field around that coil. A 500hz max coupled with capacitative discharge will do the trick :-)
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The older circuit designs used things like magnetic reed switches and hall effect sensors. Once transistors became more accessible, they started using those in the designs because of availability and simplicity. The experimenter no longer needed to fuss with getting their switches into the exactly correct position, as the transistors could automatically perform the switching operation at the "perfect" time. I've never built one of these (more accurate to say that I never finished one), but I've studied off & on for a number of years. It's a pretty clever circuit for how simple it is. It's just that reading the schematics for it and making the correct connections gets a bit confusing.
Rob build a bedini wheel for everyone to see. It could really change the game for all of you over there as well as us here in the states for that matter.
he cant. lol. it would be the death of power company.
I am very grateful and thankful. You're great. I would like you check 1929 patent for transformer amplifier . for some reason counter clockwise coil and clockwise coil have strange effect . more commonly know as bucking coils. supposedly 1 amp in 10 amps out .no voltage change . I know your busy, so if it's possible my question would be isn't high amp better than high volts. I'm just checking my conclusions. configuration of coil's and closeness of material to coil through iron core create a vacuum effect and increase amps . Thank you your a inspirer's
Thanks,
the collapsing magnet field,
is this an implosion?
Wiktor schauberger:'the secret is in implosion this is how the nature works". is there more power to harvest?
never thought about it that way - nice oe mate
Could a large, wind - driven, rotating disc with a series of ceramic magnets arranged with alternating polarity drive any number of these? Would such a device function differently from a magneto? Good subject.
dunno - check it out mate - I like the thinking here
Ever heard of the Searl Effect Generator? I wouldn't have said anything but you two share the same cheeky accent
Its a complex multi material design with requirements of high precision machining, and that is the hard part to make and why Searl wasnt able to get another partner to make more of them. Anything simple will be easier to commercialize should anyone actually want to make free energy business. theres designs with descriptions on the Patrick Kelly channel (you will know if you find it) of free-energy-info
Dot com, youtube was censoring obscured link
I have heard of it mate - I didn't know about the accent though lol
Oh yes the old lowest power switching mechanisms puzzle . Its been plaguing my mind for over 40 years.if only there was something in nature that could be harnessed that also oscillated at ultra high frequency. 🤔 oh yeah light is something that could be used.... hmmmm but what about night time ? 🤔 oh yeah the moons reflective light through a lens onto a light dependent resistor 🤔 hmmm has that been done before? But the best thing that comes to mind is a vacuum or pressure powered oscillator, something that can be raised by everyday human interaction like a pressure pads in walkways . This is only to create the oscillation though so that it is always on . The rest of the system energy is another subject altogether!
always good to be thinking about stuff mate
I like the avenue you're heading. Who knows, maybe in one day you'll show to your fans a simple setup of a free energy device. Just kidding...or not... Anyway, thumbs up mate; I love your presentations.
lol - who knows and cheers mate
Can you use a diode oscillator to run the circuit?
You should check out the work of Master Ivo on YT. He is using a pulse generator and 555 chip to drive the high side switching of a Mosfet to make Tesla Pancake coils resonate with 600v back EMF spikes from a few volts input (0.5w in 50w back). The challenge is really the best way of collecting and using this energy generated..
Add to this system magnetocaloric effect and you have nice energy generator. Energy lost by hesteresis its not only thing that happend in Bedini machine .The secret of Bedini SG is this tiny lightbulb , but you need lots of reserch to understand why.
that doesn't sound right to me mate - but we all have our ideas - so maybe you are right - I really don't know
@@ThinkingandTinkering those "tiny light bulbs" Marcin mentions are very specific, high frequency tolerant neon bulbs....it's my understanding that they're in the circuit as a buffer of sorts....
Instead of a microswitch use a small dc motor and 9v battery. The commutator switches the primary current on and off creating a crude AC that a transformer can use. If you use a suitable transformer (perhaps a mains transformer backwards) you can step up the 9V to quite high voltages this way.
nice tip mate - cheers
You looked into Gerard Morin's work?
what happened to the video regarding the school girl motor being joule thief?
When you let the magnet run into the metal rod, the pulse was triggered.
If you just run the magnet passed that point without it touching the rod; will it trigger the pulse?
If so; is this a substitute for a reed switch?
yes - the turns number will have an impact on the effect for sure but as long as the magnetic field is in motion this will work just fine
@@ThinkingandTinkering
I guess you could use this to activate a reed switch as well which would be a way to protect the contacts of the switch from becoming magnetized.
I don't know how prevalent that is; but I read that it is a problem with reed switches when they are in a magnets field too long.
How about Tesla pancake coils?
Hmm. will the Joule Thief harvest power from an antenna?
It seems I seen a video some time ago where someone did that.
I plan on a low voltage version for just that mate
@@ThinkingandTinkering
Awesome! 😎👍
@@ThinkingandTinkering
I just thought of another lower power source the Joule Thief can be used with. The Earth Battery.
This is so awesome! When I first read about Bedini I thought it was a hoax. It's awesome to hear it explained properly. Thank you.
zou u hetzelfde kunnen doen van tesla coil naar desulfater batterie machine of iets dergelijks?
Looks like Mr Robert is on the right train! Check Channel thane hanes! Ooh I'm so excited, as this gives me hope that such brilliant mind like yours is going to touch the pandora box😂👍👍👍
cheers ate
A bit like contact breakers switching a car HT ignition coil then
exactly like that mate
Nice intro video, would have loved to see you go a bit further down the rabbit hole though, so many variants to control in the circuit despite its simplicity , coil matching , resistance optimisation , inductance application, and thats just for efficiency actual techniques for building can vary so much (magnet switching or self oscillating) i think your excellent gift for explaining these things would have given the idea a bit more substance. Id be interested in seeing your panacea motor opinion too. Keep it up for us hobby tinkerers
it's always a difficult balance between too much detail and not enough - all I really want to do is introduce the idea that these are not difficult to build - so that seemed enough for me - I'll go into more detail later for sure - but step by step mate lol
High freq switching can ONLY revive a good battery, that is, one that is not sulphurated. There is no reviving a dead battery without ripping it apart, as you have so augustly shown, Rob.
Great video! Would love to see you extend this to a Practical DIY “de-sulfater” for large ( 12V Automotive ) batteries. This would help us reduce the incredible amount of waste of not really dead batteries. I can see the extension to the real world application, But would really appreciate investigating with you the Devilish Details that make this really practical. (Hopefully the auto Battery manufacturers won’t get you censored - humor)
Buy already at Walmart or auto store. No need to reinvent the wheel.
you can just buy those you know mate?
@@ThinkingandTinkering Yes, certain lead acid battery chargers/maintainers have a desulfating feature. Just heard one of the brands a few days ago but forgot the name. Surprised you didn't already know. On eBay I have also seen desulfating only gizmos sold as well. Either way, they all appear to use elevated pulse voltages at some periodicity. Knurlnar, not sure of spelling, on youtube seems to have done the perhaps, best and different approach of method for fast results. Unlike the store bought ones, slow acting, low power and HV, he uses high power and moderate voltages. I can get more details if you like, just not in front of me at present.
I still have an older radio shack charger that has desulfate mode.
I've taken a deep cell mide of winter iced to the ground about halfway up the batter in Alaska two weeks and the fucker is still in .y van as auxiliary bat working like it was brand new. Oh it charged to 2.4 or so volts on a charger
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So what you're saying is the SSG is not using the magnets for any supply of energy but only as a rotating physical switching mechanism?
No. the magnet is doing a little more
What he demonstrated is when the magnet approaches the coil it saturates the core and forces a collapse. One collapse is all needed to demonstrate the Led blinked, that is what the bedini wheel does over and over. With each approaching magnet the coil core will saturate with a magnetic field and reach max once the magnet is direclty above the core and as the magnet leaves the magnetic field on the coil collapses and that is the spike in voltage of the bedini SSG that charges batteries. I have been playing with the SSG for some time and the transistors burn easy (made in china).
next would be the slayer exciter
for sure
Very cool. I have been playing with joule thief type circuits for years. Please experiment with a "toroidal mobius coil" . I have had interesting results with it in a joule thief.
Great suggestion!
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lol
.....you've also answered another question that was in my mind :- your crocodile leads aren't magnetic, therefore you don't have the ones which are basically iron wire that is copper plated and turn hard and brittle once they heat up slightly due to excess current. . . . .I'm out of the loop on this bedini stuff. I might go and have a look at it .
there is some interesting stuff to be got fro mate - that's for sure
bedini SSG has 2 batteries*
No. Follow Bedini's instructions. The bifiler is a 1:1 transformer. 130ft coils. NO NEO MAGNETS. You didn't capturer the spike and shuttle it to a second battery. Input current should be limited to 120ma transistor to begin. Make it work how Bedini instructed FIRST. Then go back and make changes. Magnetic machines are very inefficient when built small so think big. Start of with the bike wheel one circuit. Learn it. Then move on to the muiltifiler systems. Don't skip the bike wheel setup thinking it doesnt do anything. Build it to BEDINI Specs and not some internet copy of a copy's copy that was hand copied. Use good batteries for learning the machine and then you can attempt to revive some wore out batteries. Never ever allow the charging leads to come off while it is running. Crappy builds give crappy results. Small builds are much harder to get working.
Any place where I can find the original Bedini model circuit? There's so much trash and bad copies, I keep finding different versions all claiming to be 'it' .
Thanks in Advance.
@@undernetjack Then Danny does have websites and go on UA-cam and find his videos.
After having watched you for years and with the utmost respect, I must disagree with you on one of your comments. When you discover an alternative to validate the experiment's findings, that's a good thing! I understand where you are coming from, but with your unquestionable experience, I would love to see items that behave consistently, where you are totally stumped!
Please make a video of things that you have encountered that should not work. I believe thats werethe future lays.
You cannot break the rules of thermodynamics
Why are Maxwells-equations called Maxwells equations? He did not come up with any one of them. He just added a term to Amperes law.
Is the induced electric field by a moving magnetic field conservative, or non conservative?
My Point :There is so much to discover that has not been discovered.
It may be possible to have a device that puts out more than it takes in but it must cool down something or somehow else draw energy in from the outside. Just as heat pumps can be 500% efficient on heating by cooling down the outside air. Idk really.
Quantum mechanics says that you are wrong and that you are just repeating stuff that you memorized in some elementary school.
Most of the references I can find to the Bedini SSG claim that it outputs more power than it takes in. Surely you're not going along with that nonsense?
no - of course not - but it has uses high frequency high voltage is being investigated as a desulphation technique for batteries - and by investigated I mean research papers for reputable universities
@@ThinkingandTinkering Whew! Okay, good. I figured you were too sensible for that rot.
You're actually WRONG on the point that "if you can use ALTERNATIVE methods." The point is that if you use THE SAME Parts in THE SAME configuration, you get THE SAME effects. That's how SCIENCE works.
Thank you. You definitely are missing components in your oversimplistic design. Your path of logic should not be to look for something that LOOKS like a Bedini, and then designing your own schematics to fit that bill, and then concluding it's not doing anything special. See, you compare Bedini with a Joule Thief, then you compare it to a transformer while you never put together a real Bedini generator. I have used my Bedini (single coil, single transistor) for over a year now, recharging hundreds of batteries (12V and all the 9V, 6V, 1.2V and 1.5V used in my 12 meters). Results? My Driving battery (12V car batt like the one you have) went from a full charge at around 12.80V, down to 12.26V a full year later after over 200 charges of several Charging batteries. Gain: a grand total of around 40Volts from all battery types I recharged. It produces a topup of 200-350 mV in 15 minute, or anywhere from 350mV to 1 full Volt in around one hour. This is considering a "settle time" of around 8-12 hours whereas my Charging batt will drop a bit, not unlike conventional charging. And my Drive batt will very often climbs back up to the initial Voltage. As you know, the capacity (how much AmpHour a particular battery can put out) remains to be what that type of batt can yield (versus the load resistance), the task (like we all do in mains or "wall" charging) is to get the voltage back up. It is an overunity generator, not by much but it is. Overunity is also produced by photovoltaics, geothermal, windmills, watermills, tidal and waves, Earth batteries, and more. So, considering a COP of useful voltages gain versus losses (voltage drop of the Drive battery) we have (conservatively; I kept records but did not bother to run the tally) 40 Volts gained / 12.80 - 12.26 = 0.540V. So, 40 V Gain / 0.540V loss = 74.07 x 100 = 7,407 %. I repair and build things and studied physics. Theory is not my forte. However some theorists have advanced that all mag fields are made of aligned photons (like beads on strings). Induction (EMF=Voltage) comes down to time-dependent crossing of mag lines by a charge (or better, a copper wire or a coil) so when a coil expands a mag field around it, it pushes photons away (two photons cannot occupy the same space). You "pay" for this motion as you "pay" for pushing electrons in the coil, as electrons in free and travelling state, create their own mag fields. The magic happens when the feeding current is turned off, the field collapse - and the displaced photons come rushing back inward, entraining more of an "inrush" aka back EMF spike. There should not be any gain you say, correct! BUT since photons have no mass, Newtonian F=ma doesn't apply (at un-relativistic speed). So you are no longer confined in a closed system (the circuit) but an open one. Just a handy theory. Any engineer will say that back EMF spikes are very real and the conventional remedy is to channel it to ground or use a flyback diode - OR IN RARE CASE, you will hear an old engineer say you can recharge that supply battery if you omit the flyback diode. It's safe with a battery supply but flyback diodes are to be applied because your DC or AC power supply may bust from those pesky back EMF spikes. So, John Bedini is a smart man who found a clever way to channel this back EMF instead of grounding it. Yes, I recharged up to four batteries at a time, without further or significant penalty to the Charging battery's voltage. I also charged a battery while powering brightly an array of 12 LEDs. But it's finicky and you must apply some timing to it. I strongly suggest you approach this subject with humility and method. My hopes is that one or several of you, will further R&D (it's very cheap to research and develop) and with similar, or radical design, will ramp this up to hundreds of kWatts to power the world and eliminate CO2 emissions. The most expected outcome is a positive result. Together we can definitely do just that and bring freedom (not a further dependency) to everyone, including the fauna and flora. Best wishes!
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