Climbing the Rating Ladder: 1600-1800
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- This is a series where I play lower-rated players and comment on optimal chess strategy both broadly and specifically to the rating level in question. Here we rise another rung and tackle players in the 1600-1800 rating range on Chess.com.
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Part 4: (1400-1600): • Climbing the Rating La...
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Game 3 vs. maquina999: www.chess.com/l...
Game 4 vs. leinuyrelos: www.chess.com/l...
Game 5 vs. blackcat11: www.chess.com/l...
Game 6 vs. gurukumargg: www.chess.com/l...
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The poor guy @6:00 is trying so hard to calculate why John blundered his rook thinking that there is some crazy line that he just doesn't have the ability to calculate lol
That's exactly what occurred to me; I can imagine him thinking that there must be some reason why he can't take the rook...
Mouse slips, OTB touch moves, these things happen to anyone and everyone
And I dont see why he took the rook with the pawn. He could have taken it with the knight and got it out
Skywalker Maybe he thought that in this "line," taking with the knight (the expected move) would put him in an unforeseen trap in the future, so he looked for something unconventional. Or maybe he was just so distraught by the sacrifice that he simply wasn't in the mindset to think as logically lol
Kai-Rey Lee k
wondering if my opponents are having conversations and speaking this relaxed while beating me down.
Sometimes I find myself playing on Lichess mobile, I play games on the bus, making dinner, walking up the street, doing laundry, etc
@@boatsandhoes4381 same, I rarely play chess without doing something else
Haha
Nice thought
@@adamfirth3082 I can't think of multitasking while thinking to play chess at the same time tho... Is it making you dizzy or what?
this playlist is bad ass. Went from blundering against 1300-1400's to competing against 1500-1600's in a week. mostly from watching these and trying to follow the same sort of thought process. (Also I stopped playing the King's Gambit lmao)
How's your game now?
5:00 - 0:03
"Well after all that talking I'm a little low on time and I haven't even made my first move, 3 seconds left, lemme just -- do a quick little *chess pieces rapidly moving* checkmate. Yeah, so unfortunately this guy didn't see his king hanging"
hahahahha
Loved that!
😂😂😂✌️
Lichess breakdown for my game with leinuyrelos: en.lichess.org/yvvCD2qq
+John Bartholomew Yea zero inaccuracies or mistakes in a 40+ move game against an IM is extremely unlikely for a 1744 player, and is probably a tough accomplishment even for a GM.
+John Bartholomew
Yeah, not only the zero errors made but also the fact that the account is a week old is quite suspicious...
+Jason Rawls Not to mention the time used for the game. It's bizarre for me, just sad folks spending their free time feeding engine moves into a game to beat other people online - no skill, no bragging rights, no money. It's hard to understand.
+John Bartholomew Fairly clearly the guy was cheating. Very cool to see you being such a good sport about it.
+John Bartholomew i looked up his account but I couldnt find it???
John, you captured my attention and held on to it for a marathon lesson. I just watched the five first video's from this playlist in a row and stayed focused for practically the whole time. I learnt a lot and replayed the recording from time to time to get exactly the point of what you were saying. Very useful informations formulated in clearly comprehensible English.
I likely commented in the PAST Big John, BUT MUST REACH OUT Bro to say You're my most FAVORED Chess Host / Instructor out here! SO MANY THANKS FOR YOUR STYLE & contributions to OUR Community my man! You Flat Out Rock! Many Blessings of Appreciation from Oregon #1, Always a Joy and Take Away ever time I tune in.With Sincere recognition my Friend for Your Relentless Generosity, ... MIKE.
I like your comment. Actually felt like writing something similar since i share some of those feelings.
Keeping mental equilibrium in winning and losing positions, I need to work on that!
+Jansen Baja Yup! It's a struggle any chess player can identify with.
@@JohnBartholomewChess Very nice dimension there, could maybe deserve a video of its own with some nice examples! This is when chess practice crosses over into synergies with life skills in general, in this case decision-making under stress :)
@@JohnBartholomewChess Very impressive how you shrug off the rook slip and are back in control ten turns later. I see the same thing in poker. One of the biggest differences between good and bad players is how they respond to adversity, poise vs implosion.
Wonderful series. Thanks for posting.
Very instructional. It's impressive how quickly you come up with good ideas (probably why you're so talented at bullet chess). I was able to 'predict' the moves in the more simple positions, but I missed a lot of the ideas in the complicated/tactical middle games. You're the best - by far - chess personality on youtube, John!
+sugarsmusic Thanks for your positive feedback, sugarsmusic. Happy New Year, and best wishes for 2016!
That first checkmate was awesome lol, that bishop pair did an amazing job in controlling the kings flight squares
Back when I was a teenager little brat I remember I was using engines a lot. I didn't play 100% engine moves, I didn't see a point to that but once I got to a position where I didn't really know how to proceed I immediately switched on my Fritz 11 to see what plan it comes up with and how it executes it. I wouldn't say it was entirely useless I implemented some "ideas" of the engine into my play that I saw occur regularly, but nontheless it was not ethical at all. However needless to say, I have quite an experience with engines even more so because I even used the engine to play against other engines to see how that would turn out. I regularly encountered other cheaters as well and I could identify them very easily simply because I know how engines play differently than humans. I can guarantee you 100% that that player was definitely cheating.
Absolutely no one on that level can play with this accuracy. There is simply no way a player at the 1700 level has the positional understanding and tactical awareness of not making a single inaccuracy against an International Master in such a complicated opening as the Grunfeld and an actually challenging endgame. I know first hand because I used to beat this rating range to the ground with engines and even the better players were making small inaccuracies that something like a Fritz 11 could capitalize on, but in the case here there were simply no mistakes and that just doesn't happen normally. In fact this rating range has so little understanding of endgame technique that usually my engine could win theoretically lost endgames (anything below 2 pawns disadvantage and the engine won 90% of the time) Actually you hardly ever see this accuracy even on a GM level.
Most suspicious moves: 22...Bxd4 30... Rd2 and the Knight maneuver from move 38. And the fact he knew like 17 moves opening theory of the freaking Grunfeld. But especially 30... Rd2. Give this position to a hundred 1700-1800ish players, I guarantee you 10 of them will mess it up with trying something fancy and 90 of them will play either h5 or h6. Which is not even bad, it is totally sound, Rd2 is just the most accurate, Rc5 similar strength according to Houdini. In fact, at this point black's advantage is still not decisive so the fact he could convert it with such precision makes it absolutely clear that he was cheating.
yeah,personally i use engines in very closed postions where i just don't know what do (beside a useless trade).only on long games thought.help to unlock the game but that's really not fair to my opponent:/
i'm positively sure that guy was cheating...and maybe some others too
Indeed, his account has been closed for cheating (www.chess.com/member/leinuyrelos). I suppose if he's sitting around wondering where he went wrong, the answer would be, "Don't try to cheat when playing a game against one of the most popular UA-cam chess coaches around. There's a *slight* chance that one of the 127,000 people who view the video will recognize that you were using an engine :-P"
Well said. Though I feel it’s even simpler than that. If you played that well, you wouldn’t be rated 1700.
Super stellar write up
Hi, Tal Baron!
When you're holding a piece, right click to let go of it. That way you don't mouse slip like at 5:20
+mike yaworski Didn't know this. Thanks!
+John Bartholomew Glad someone told you. I was coming here to tell you this after the second video in a row with a brutal misclick.
+John Bartholomew Doesn't work in Lichess though, so don't make it part of your muscle memory. It used to, but now it does those annotations unfortunately.
illegitimate0 I agree with you. It's caused me to misclick a lot on lichess. It sucks that the UI can't be the same across all servers :(
I'm a bit surprised that Lichess hasn't taken over the market yet. As more top players switch over, it has to pick up steam. There servers aren't great yet, but it seems to me to be by far the best free option.
Just found this video series and I love it already. This is the kind of stuff sorely lacking from most chess streams.
i didnt see the queen fork, would have done the same as him, learnt alot from this video, thank you john
Lol..."ah, then I have mate..." Just out of no where
I would love to see a 5+ minute match between you and Ginger GM Simon Williams!
+kwijung I gotta reach out to Simon and see if we can make it happen. I agree that it would be awesome!
+John Bartholomew I would love that as well! Do you plan to participate in the chess.com streaming championshop on Wednesday?
+John Bartholomew One more thing - I found this channel through you playing other streamers (on lichess I think), so that's a data point towards proving that playing other streamers may increase your own audience! :)
+Steinar Lima Good to know! Do you remember which streamer it was? Chessbrahs, perhaps?
+John Bartholomew Could it have been against KC in some Lichess tournaments? I don't think it was like a planned duel or anything.
just went over ur game with leinuyrelos with engine all moves r 1 or 2 engine sugestions :) , i was cirous and went over some other game that he played and guess what.. same thing haha
I had a feeling he was cheating.
You can see on leinuyrelos's chess.com account: "This account has been closed for violating our Fair Play rules."
@@MGStreak Good riddance.
If u beat the cheater who is engining does the universe fold it self in half and into infinite halfs and infinite more halfs?
To be honest my games improved tremendously ....... the amount of knowledge I gathered from your instructive videos is remarkable. In the last game I was able to play with 0 mistakes, 0 blunders, 2 inaccuracies and 23 average centipawn loss ......... I've one thing to say ""YOU ARE THE BEST INSTRUCTOR"" HATS OFF
This is wholesome. This chess lessons came with flavour of life lessons.
You Sir are a class act, not only do you blunder a rook and maintain a level head, but you turn it into an educational motif, and go on to win the game. Impressive. I wish you the best for your norms!
Seriously? 0 Inaccuracies, 0 Mistakes, 0 Blunders? I guess that's because you can't have a negative number of those. We should see the guy beating Carlsen, however, OTB it's not that easy to hide the computer.
+GeorgeAlexanderOz I'm assuming you are trolling but in case you aren't: It is much easier to play games that have no innacuracies, mistakes, blunders, when your opponent is lower rated than you. Carlsen's opponents are playing chess 250 ratings points higher than John and are giving him many more chances to make innacuracies, mistakes, blunders, etc. I am rated 1500 on chess.com and I have played several games with no inaccuracies, mistakes, or blunders, simply because I played main line in the opening, and my opponents gave me obvious best responses thereafter. John is 800 points higher rated than the people in this video. It is extremely easy for him to see his opponents ideas and pick the best moves to refute them. This would be like me playing a 700 rated child. I probably would play almost "perfectly" against them.
+thefallen250 That said it is even easier for John because the 700 would leave me so many good options it would be hard to choose the best, whereas a 1600-1800 is going to play solidly enough that there aren't a plethura of good options to choose from, but they exist and he chooses them.
thefallen250 So you are the guy who won this unprobable game?
Frankly, I believe you were cheating. If I went to your channel to say that, I might be trolling, but to me it looks like you are the one who is trolling.
Be sure, I will never visit a channel of a guy who I am convinced is cheating for some cheap wins. I just express my honest opinion on a channel I like.
So be gone and stop trolling me.
+GeorgeAlexanderOz I think you were confused about what I was saying? I was saying John can play perfect games against much lower rated opponents and so can I. I can provide you links to some of these games I have played if you would like. The reason this is possible is because those games are about 20 moves long with about 10 moves of theory and maybe 5 moves of intermediate play with no inaccuracies, then maybe 5 moves of a forced mate. Rare and difficult but when you play enough games it is possible. That said I was also confused about what you were saying and thought you were questioning how John could play a perfect game against these lower rated opponents. But now I see that you meant the other guy. And by my same logic as I gave above I definitely agree he was cheating or it is a one in a million chance otherwise.
thefallen250 I were confused, you were confused. Now it's all well again.
This serie is amazing, I love the explanation and solid chess games. I've noticed though that around 1000 level players seem to be a little tougher than when you uploaded this.
Hey John, these videos are incredibly instructive! Thank you for taking the time to help us little folk.
I really appreciate your videos. Your conversational style with your quality of teaching is phenomenal. Thank you!
Hi John, whether you see this or not, you have inspired me to grow my chess game and would like to thank you for that. You've gained a subscriber looking forward for more. God bless
That last game was so amazing, really cool that it was in the same line as the engine game. Glad you decided to play one more.
I have really improved thanks to you. I was able to have 6 wins in a row, and climbing up the ladder myself. lol
I find I keep coming back these videos when I hit a losing streak.
Good analysis John.
Definately this series and chess fundamentals series is the best resource available online. In the game against maquina999 after exchange ruy lopez you played f6. Wasn't NXe5 possible by white as refutation. Maybe I am missing something but you said in symmetrical king pawn openings e4 e5 Nf3 f6 NXe5 being refutation. Would definately love to see similar series in other chess sites too. Thank you so much for videos.
Looks like you're playing the London... with Black. Which is dope as hell. Love this series btw.
Is there a chess site with a web cam and you each setup a board? Maybe people would be less likely to cheat if they had to look their opponent in the eye?
John you are a very good and thorough teacher keep up the good work bro!
57:45 If you gave John the white pieces he would've gotten a knight and pawn for the rook. John's ability to battle and look for the best move in every situation is a great example. John's opponent timed down, lost an entire piece, and then gave up.
For anyone interested, in the game against leinuyrelos, 17. Bg5 seems to be the more appropriate response after 16. b6 instead of 17. d5.
Maybe a climb the ladder using a set of new openings and defenses. You primarily stuck with e4 e5, and d4 d5 this round. Maybe open with d4 every time, and for defense use the Caro Kann for e4, and Nf3 for d4? I know this is never ending with possibilities, but the thought process you give is the best part, and adding in different opening ideas would be icing on the cake.
brilliant commentary John.
i just played one game on dr chess thnx your relaxness on that pawnstorm thing i managed to crush him ty buddy you are the most helpfull IM i ve ever seen !
This lesson has renewed my hope in getting out of the 1700s!! :)
I found that game against JavierMat helpful. Against weird white openings I've just been playing b6 & Bb7 as black. I like your sort of black Lodon system style setup.
Great series. Thanks John!
Thank you for preparing these videos. You instruct perspicuously.
And you're a nice guy.
New word for me! Pretty perspcacious of you there!
0:28 can somebody explain me please why white knight doesn’t take knight c6 ?
Since nothing defends it
John: Blunders rook in a slip of the mouse
John five minutes later: Wins by accidental checkmate!!
Love this series of videos! Great stuff for a beginner...
Thanks. Very instructive listening to you thinking through the games.
I think the very consistent time between moves and the fact that he had the positional, time and material advantage throughout the whole game against an IM, is more than just 'pretty sus'
last game was beautiful, that's a good combo to know of.
Not giving up is the only way to win a lost position
My favorite Sicilian variation is the dragon, cuz it sounds cool
Wait. At 5:50 didn't you hade a Check Mate? Knight A2?
Really usefull series. Hope you will do more of these :-)
Hi John. Thanks for the video. Now, I'm constantly confused about what colour squares to put my pawns on in endgames with bishops still on the board. At 55:08, you say that you are happy that most of your pawns are on the same colour squares as white's bishop. I thought that in the endgames, the idea is to put your pawns on opposite colour squares to you opponent's bishop so that he can't attack them!
Haha, blunders the rook by a slip-of-mouse and remains as calm as a lentil. I guess I learned something today!
Easier to remain calm when you're 2300 vs 1600. Watch him play a GM and make a blunder like that - guaranteed he'd hold his head in disbelief.
Everybody has a breaking point - that's why lower rated players criticize GMs for making a "silly mistake they'd never do" without ever experiencing that level of pressure.
Setup in the game vs. JavierMat is like the London but for black?
I’ve watched this video many times to get better, can you make more?
how have I been watching so much chess being played
is there like a no.1 player in the world ?
In the first game, what if after Bg5, f6 white plays Bh6?
Hey John. New to the channel and new to chess. First of all great work on all of the content. 2nd if ur looking for video ideas I really like the idea of playing from a material deficit (misclick in the first game led to an interesting middle game). I know you advocate trading down if ur ahead on material but what about if ur behind?
13:54 I saw Na6! is a really nice move, threatening Bb4 mate!
Hey John, btw, lot's of players like that on chess.com. They use engines. But they're not really improving. You and I know that. Lein is doing the same.
I like your rather gracious response to that 1772 player's "win". We done.
That first mate was insane
In the game you lost, that bc4 move that brought you down is very difficult to find, except for an engine. So you might be right, if not, his rating didn't tell the whole story and he is climbing the ladder to +2000.
lol at 5:40 what a mindgame when almost 1k elo ahead to an insane blunder to mindfuck them into thinking they dont see a move
Do you notify your opponents that they're part of an instruction video? These are good instructional games. Your commentary is great.
1:09:19 I would have played Rc8 and forced the rook exchange instead of retreating your bishop. Thoughts?
At 54:28, why not Re1+, Kh2, Ra1 winning a pawn?
Huh, your little speech about trying to make the best of a bad position made me think a little: should I not just be resigning immediately after I do something incredibly stupid like lose a rook? Most of the time I do.
That's something I wonder too. When is the right time to resign? I think it depends on your rating range. I was +7 in a game today and still lost it (I'm 1500 rated)
Kinda reminds me of the game between Sam Shankland and an Indian Gm in the recent chess Olympics where Sam was losing pretty badly. His opponent was +9 (engine) Still Sam managed to win that game!!
Until at least 1800 I wouldn't resign positions where you still have tactical opportunities for a comeback.
Nobody ever won a game by resigning. You should continue to play until there is absolutely no hope (Down by a rook? Keep playing. Facing a rook, a knight, and an outside passed pawn that is 1 square from promoting vs your King and lone pawn on the 4th rank? Go ahead and resign.)
@@richardwalker3760 I play for stalemate even then. And get it too, about a tenth.
1:17:18 yep, his account was finished
At 1:11:26 isn't Bxb6 a better move? Seems like you will be down a pawn, not two. If he takes the light square bishop u will then be equal in material. Or am I missing something?
Hi, I'm rated at around 1200 btw. I'm questioning why you didn't decide to play rook takes E3 because after qb4 the Be5 I don't see what he can do in order to prevent rook to h2 check while also giving up a rook and eyeing a bishop for a trade of rooks.
plus, if he does be2 wouldnt that just be giving up the bishop for check anyway but preventing the loss of a rook still giving you a piece up?
at 11:23, if white goes Bishop d4, does that win the knight?
John, if he had two moves at 1:29:18, he probably would have chosen Qxe4 and then Qxg2#. ;)
Hi John, I'm currently writing a story (that features chess) and would love to make use of some of your dialogue here. I don't know how else to reach you, so I'm reaching you in the comment section! Can I get permission to use some of your dialogue in this video?
He's quite regulary on twich streaming. Also you could try and text him on Lichess. His Name there is 'Fins' - He has a fancy 'IM' symbol next to his name.
Lichess is 100% free to play. Anyone should consider opening an account and joining our great community of rating ladder rising fans of great John Bartholomew. Haha :D
at 8:17, opponent really should've played Bh6, forcing a draw, though he would probably not see the winning line after the Bf6 defense.
John for president
Where is the 1800-2000? Can't wait.
Make more of these!
@8:10: Why not d4? Then if white moves the dark square bishop black goes Bg5 winning the queen. Am I missing something?
+irgendwerjoker White could play Bg5 in response to ...d4, but then...Na2+ followed by Nc3+ is good, so yes - ...d4 looks good there.
1:11:04 bishop c4 king e2?
Great video thanks!
at 22:05 , is it ok to take the hanging pawn on b4?
My boi - Leinuyrelos out here definitely using an engine
Yes, he was banned
i can beat a 1300 half the time but win 1/3 of my games to 1000 and lower, why? im rated about 1100
also the square locations i dont know off by heart
very nice
Crazy how many moves ahead he is
1:25:02 why not move the bishop to G4, then F3 stopping all future checkmate ideas from his bishop hiding on A8. You are up a piece and it should be an easy win if you stop his one current threat.
John where do you works what's your job?
38:07 free pawn with the bishop?
I get why people cheat in tournament chess, for the money, but an online game? Why? Some real sad people out there. Anyways, love your material. Good stuff.
+Curtis Couch Thanks, Curtis! Yeah, it's unfortunate that people cheat. I think it's gotta be some sort of ego validation, as there isn't much else at stake in these online games :)
or it would be 2 pieces for a roook
u with the 2 pieces
sooo it probably was a better line after the mouse slip
I dont know
Im only in the 18s
he is buzzing after the rook fork 😂
9:01 white has mate if he plays Bh6
did you ever find out if that player cheated?
Real problem with chess is that players just memorise the opening lines up to 20 moves deep. It makes the game very bookish and predictable. A good player should not have to memorise so much. And he has to anyway then maybe chess is not worth playing.
Discussion expected.
Ok, you just contradicted yourself, at the 1:32 mark. Earlier, you suggested playing a sort of "reverse London system" (with black), but here you suggested not playing the London System with white. lol I actually do play the London System with white, but very seldom play Bf5 with black, because I have been burned by leaving b7 unprotected too early. With black, I will play the more cautious e6 instead (a Semi-slav or reverse Colle, if you will). Just sayin.
I may be missing something here, so please provide clarification if I am. But surely suggesting a London system for black and then not saying don't play it with white is not contradictory. If he suggested it for one colour and then said don't play it for that colour in a different video then it would be, but suggesting for one colour over another is not contradictory,
How can it be good for black, but not for white (who has an extra tempo)? White has a better chance of getting in h3, so the bishop can retreat to h2. White can also break a move earlier in the center.
What John is saying is suggesting that improving players choose more dynamic openings that will expose them to more positions and help them think more critically - which in turn will help their chess improvement. The difference here is that as black, you can only really play the reverse London in certain situations (e.g. only when white plays 1. d4), so it's not like you're going to get the same position all the time when you play black. As white, however, it's extremely realistic and possible to just learn one system and get the same positions every game you play - this way, you're not really improving your understanding of the game as effectively because you encounter new positions where you need to think less often. Hope this explanation helped :)
Ok, Gogeta. I guess that makes sense. Although, no two London System games are exactly the same either. It's good for defensive, positional players. I feel that's it's an improvement on the Colle System because it avoids the queen's bishop and queen's rook being locked in, well into the middlegame.
If you think using the London system (or any similar play-on-a-color-complex system) for either side is an opening repertoire cure-all, then you're just a mechanical player. And if you think that's what IM John is suggesting you do, then you really didn't get his message.
7:52 should have playd Na2 + then king B1 And then Bishop B4
the audio messes up in some parts and it very distracting, fix it please
Clover go to Antarctica and freeze. No one wants u here
Haha you butthurt as fuck, noob. Haha
lol youtube comments.
Cesspit of the internet, unfortunately,
At 42' you explain what seems to be a london system for blacks... Right ?
In the 1st game, I think your opponent should have taken the rook with the knight, not with the pawn. He was essentially a piece down the whole game.
true but the knight defended f2 maybe he didnt want to get into sharper lines
+Timothy Barth i mean c2